Good Upgrade From Nexus 4? - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I am about to jump the gun on the Moto X tommorow, any Nexus 4 users here? How is the experience compared to N4. The only thing I will miss about the N4 is the development community, it seems like the Moto development community is very small.

oxxshadow said:
So I am about to jump the gun on the Moto X tommorow, any Nexus 4 users here? How is the experience compared to N4. The only thing I will miss about the N4 is the development community, it seems like the Moto development community is very small.
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Hi,
I have been using nexus 4 for over a year now but because its navigation keys won't work anymore i bought Moto X 2014 last month. Following are my observations compared to Nexus 4:-
1) you get near stock experience. so no trouble in getting used to the UI.
2) The phone doesn't lag at all(neither did my nexus 4) but u will see the difference while playing hd games... it is really smooth and plays high res games without any lag(Nexus 4 used to lag when playing some hd games).
3) There is not much phone heating even while playing high resolution games.(Nexus used to become so hot after playing for 15 minutes which was annoying).
4)i use the moto display and moto voice a lot. Moto voice is very helpful while u are driving as u can pick calls or reply to sms all through voice command...
5)The camera is definitely better than nexus but the stock camera app doesn't focus properly sometimes . u can install google camera from playstore and it should work properly. Still low light photography is not so great.
6)The front speaker is really good and is very loud too.
So overall i am happy with my moto x but the only disappointment is that it still hasn't received lollipop(US people have). And yeah i also miss the development community of nexus 4, But it should pick up for moto x as it is a fairly new device...

^^^ what he said. It's been a while that I've used my N4, I gave it to my daughter, but she had an issue with it and I forgot how hot that thing got. The moto X never gets that hot ?

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did anyone go from nexus 5 to moto x?

just curious.. I got a nexus 5 using straight talk wireless.. so far so good.. but I had a vzw moto x developers edition and I really liked it.. I really wish I hadn't have gotten rid of it.. but I am trying to cut costs on my monthly wireless. Did anyone used to have a nexus 5 and went to a moto x.. will it work on straight talk and also are you satisfied with your choice. I have 8 days to return the nexus 5.. Any input would be great.
I haven't owned an n5....but a friend has one. I like to put it this way.....the n5 is a powerful, fast and a little barbaric Dodge viper. The Moto x is a sleek, sexy and slightly less powerful Ferrari. Pick your poison.
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kj2112 said:
I haven't owned an n5....but a friend has one. I like to put it this way.....the n5 is a powerful, fast and a little barbaric Dodge viper. The Moto x is a sleek, sexy and slightly less powerful Ferrari. Pick your poison.
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Im sending back the Nexus 5 and going with Moto X
I had an N5 originally. I didn't get the Moto X until the off contract came down a bit over the holidays. Yes the N5 is more powerful on paper but honestly I have not noticed any sluggishness or anything else with my Moto X and I don't regret the swap one bit. Loving the extra "perks" to this phone like Active Notifications and Touchless Display. You'd think they're just gimmicks but they've become very, very useful, and I couldn't imagine having a phone without them now.
I got the Moto x to check out the active display and touchless controls about 2 weeks before the nexus 5 released. I was waiting for the nexus but got bored and impatient. I then went ahead and ordered a nexus within 15 min of them going on sale. I switched to the nexus for about a week and liked the phone but missed the active notifications and the fantastic speaker/sound quality on the moto x. As soon as the moto x got it's kitkat update, I went back and ended up giving the nexus to my wife.
The nexus was a great phone but the active notifications are ridiculously useful, and the speaker quality was the best surprise. The moto x has so far the best speaker that I've found in any phone I've tested. I've even put it up against the HTC one and the x still wins. The sound quality was my biggest complaint with the nexus, it was downright disappointing after already using the moto x.
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I haven't owned an n5....but a friend has one. I like to put it this way.....the n5 is a powerful, fast and a little barbaric Dodge viper. The Moto x is a sleek, sexy and slightly less powerful Ferrari. Pick your poison.
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I have both in the office. I have to say N5 is a Subaru WRX STi...
...and Moto X is Cadillac XLR sedan.
One is a beast with unlimited ways to modify. The other is slightly more expensive, does everything you would expect and more, and does it with style.
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thinking of making the move from a N5 to a Moto X
not sure why but im really drawn to the Moto X
only thing stopping me is the camera
how much worse i sit than the n5?
bigup7 said:
thinking of making the move from a N5 to a Moto X
not sure why but im really drawn to the Moto X
only thing stopping me is the camera
how much worse i sit than the n5?
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For me its the best I have seen till now.Dont know why they are making such a fuss about it.
If you really want a better camera than this, then you should go for Cannon SLR
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thinking of making the move from a N5 to a Moto X
not sure why but im really drawn to the Moto X
only thing stopping me is the camera
how much worse i sit than the n5?
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Its not a galaxy s5 with 16 mp camera. But take a look at the thread "post photos you clicked with your moto x" and you will see that it takes some really good quality pictures. I like that the camera is fast and you can twist the device to open it. The camera shouldn't be the thing that stops you from getting the x. But I think that you should wait for the nexus 4.4.3 update to see if you still want to keep the device or move over to the x. Active assist, touch less control(which is better than being on the Google experience launcher) and active notifications has been the best features I have used on a phone compared to the galaxy s4 watchon or smart move etc. Those features were gimmicky
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I use both phones quite consistently. Here is my scenario. I use the N5 probably about 65% of the time.
Things I like about the N5
The Display
Very accurate. My brother is a photographer and he sends me photos from time to time.. They are very close to what is shown on his calibrated screen. The same pictures on the moto X give jersey shore effect where everyone has a super tan.
Larger size. Even though it's just .3 inches larger it makes a difference, especially with resolution. I don't know if it's some apps but WatchESPN's clarity on the N5 is much easier on the eyes than on the X.
Processor - Everyday activities like browsing, swiping, reading, the difference isn't noticeable, but when switching from app to app frequently and games like scramble, words with friends, PvsZ, the N5 is noticeably superior.
Camera - I take the N5 camera for granted. The OIS makes a huge difference and the quality of the photos is easily better compared to the X. everytime I share a photo with my X my buddy can tell it's from the X vs the N5. It's one of the things that makes me want to throw my X out the window.
Wireless Charging - ever since I invested in several of those 12 dollar nokia wireless chargers, it makes it so convenient. When i carry the X around and I want to put it down to charge, I slap my forehead because it doesn't work with the wireless charging. I've had charging ports go bad before so this is a welcomed feature.
Things i like about my X
Size - it's small, and I can barely tell that it's in my pocket. When i switch phones I constantly have to do a pocket check just to see if it's there. Plus that little dimple is underrated. It's a very nice feel.
Wifi functionality? - For whatever reason the Moto X works fantastically with my QX100 camera attachment via wifi. Where the N5 stutters and lags on the wifi display, the Moto X is nearly lag free and doesn't stutter letting me capture my moments quicker faster and without annoyance. THIS is the primary reason why my moto X is still around. It's become my dedicated point and shoot attachment. It's pretty neat and cool feeling to be able to take shots, upload immediately, and even take calls and check email, texts, chats without having to pull my N5 out of my pocket.
Touchless controls - If I know i'm driving a lot that day, I always try to use the Moto X in the car. "What's up" and "play this song" are super duper features for me while driving and touchless calling is awesome. If touchless controls (google voice commands) could start sending messages via hangouts (non-sms) I'd use it even more. *One issue i have is What's up is somewhat glitchy. Sometimes it takes me to google search instead and sometimes it doesn't read off the notifications, but it hasn't done it that much where I'd ditch it. It's more hit than miss.
Active Display - I'm not as in love with this feature as most are. It's definitely nice. I like how the screen turns on when taking it out of your pocket. It saves me from over using the power button, which I feel has lost some tactile feel on my N5 from over use. I'd like this feature on all my upcoming phones. Active display definitely gives you more info than the notification LED but in meetings it serves the same purpose as I know what type of notification i'm getting. I can't really reach over to read the active display notification while in the meeting and plus the LED light is less subtle so people next to me don't get distracted by my phone. I know I can have it on the N5 with dynamic notifications but I've been reluctant to weigh down the N5 with anymore background tasks due to battery.
Speaker - It's LOUD 'nuff said.
Issues with both phones
Battery life - Don't get me wrong. Both are decent and would probably do the regular user just fine from day to day activities, but I'm on my phone A LOT. My normal routine has just about become, Moto X at work. N5 after work. I've come to the conclusion I need at LEAST 3000mah battery. The X for me slightly edges out the N5.
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Touchless controls - If I know i'm driving a lot that day, I always try to use the Moto X in the car. "What's up" and "play this song" are super duper features for me while driving and touchless calling is awesome. If touchless controls (google voice commands) could start sending messages via hangouts (non-sms) I'd use it even more. *One issue i have is What's up is somewhat glitchy. Sometimes it takes me to google search instead and sometimes it doesn't read off the notifications, but it hasn't done it that much where I'd ditch it. It's more hit than miss.
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I send messages through hangouts via touchless control all the time. You have to have hangouts as your default messaging app. Sorry just re-read your statement. Non SMS...
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I send messages through hangouts via touchless control all the time. You have to have hangouts as your default messaging app.
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I want chats not texts.
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I have both. And really, to me they are near equal.
My wife has the X now and I have the N5 and when friends hear how affordable both are and ask what they should get out of the 2....I usually immediately say the X. Unless any of them may interested in playing with their device, roms, mods and what not. Then I say N5. Hands down. But.....only ever had one person show interest in tinkering. So I recommend the X 95 percent of the time. LOL
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Oh....and most are blown away by touchless control.
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Anyone leave the LG G3 to the moto X?

I've looked, but couldn't find anything. I'm just not happy with the lag of this device and since the nexus 6 is going to be way too big, I'm looking at the moto X.
I have to get the pure edition since I'm with T-Mobile, so I don't want to dish out the full price if it's not going to be a smoother experience.
Thanks for any help.
I dont know about the lag of the LG G3, but the Moto X has almost 0 lag, if any to be fair... 3 days and nothing
I do find it interesting, Considering my brother's G2 have almost 0 lag, maybe the 2K screen its a little too much ?
I think it is. The GPU is the same as most 1080p phones use and I think it can't keep up. I've even overclocked the GPU and still lag on games.
I ordered a motox 2 weeks ago to replace my Verizon g3 because there was no development. Now I still don't have the x and they unlocked the Verizon boot loader...
I have the T-Mobile G3 with the unlocked bootloader and there's not much out there. My guess, is even with bump, it's going to be a while until development takes off.
gotzaDroid said:
I've looked, but couldn't find anything. I'm just not happy with the lag of this device and since the nexus 6 is going to be way too big, I'm looking at the moto X.
I have to get the pure edition since I'm with T-Mobile, so I don't want to dish out the full price if it's not going to be a smoother experience.
Thanks for any help.
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I left the Nexus 5 for the LG3......the lag or should I say lack of Nexus smoothness and buttery transitions forced me to leave LG G3 for the new X.......
What a more pleasent experience.
Prior to selling the G3 I did a side by side.....the difference in the screen and picture quality is noticable.......but overall.....the X has beem the best Android experience ever.
Overly glad I made the choice
Yeah the g3 is a lag machine for sure. I used it like once. Ew. Has the same gpu as g2 with 2k screen. Yeah no. G2 is miles smoother(I had one) got this x and this is smoother yet!
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I left the Nexus 5 for the LG3......the lag or should I say lack of Nexus smoothness and buttery transitions forced me to leave LG G3 for the new X.......
What a more pleasent experience.
Prior to selling the G3 I did a side by side.....the difference in the screen and picture quality is noticable.......but overall.....the X has beem the best Android experience ever.
Overly glad I made the choice
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That's great to hear. I'm in your same boat, nexus 5 to G3 to now (possibly) the moto X. To hear the moto X has been your best Android experience is helping push me.
gotzaDroid said:
That's great to hear. I'm in your same boat, nexus 5 to G3 to now (possibly) the moto X. To hear the moto X has been your best Android experience is helping push me.
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I came to Moto X 2014 from a Nexus 4 and my first experience with the new X was kind of disappointing due to its speed and some small lags (Nexus 4 was running perfectly smooth...). Then I changed the Android X execution from Dalvik to ART and it's now running like a supersonic jet! Try do the same in your G3 (if you didn't), maybe it works. Reducing the animations speed to .5x can also help your G3 experience.
If you go to the new X, let me say that it's Amoled display is, in my oppinion (my personal oppinion), a crap. LG and Sony displays are much better than Amoled, so be prepared!
Regards!
I had other phones in between but I now have the 2014 Moto X and had a G3. The G3 is nice, but IMO it was bulkier to hold and far more laggy than most of the other recent phones I have had. The Moto X is so much smoother and the Moto specific features, like ActiveDisplay, are far more useful. The resolution was great, but the screen wasn't really anything impressive past that. Everyone has their own opinion when it comes to screens though. Personally I have hated the LG screens all around (nexus 4, nexus 5, G3, G2). I find the colors too dull and the brightness for most of them very lackluster. The Moto X 2014 is also kinda "meh" in the brightness department, but the screen is still nice.
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I came to Moto X 2014 from a Nexus 4 and my first experience with the new X was kind of disappointing due to its speed and some small lags (Nexus 4 was running perfectly smooth...). Then I changed the Android X execution from Dalvik to ART and it's now running like a supersonic jet! Try do the same in your G3 (if you didn't), maybe it works. Reducing the animations speed to .5x can also help your G3 experience.
If you go to the new X, let me say that it's Amoled display is, in my oppinion (my personal oppinion), a crap. LG and Sony displays are much better than Amoled, so be prepared!
Regards!
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whoa, now I have an opposite reaction toward the Moto X. I come from the Nexus 4 as well, and the Nexus 4 was laggy a bit for me. The heating up by doing almost nothing was also a problem. The amoled display isn't that bad, but I know it ain't no Samsung screen.
I had the g3, but returned it within the 2 week period. I couldn't get over the cheap plasticky feel of the phone, it would creak when I gripped the phone, and even after root and debloat, it would occasionally stutter in the UI here and there.
replaced it with an HTC one m8 which I absolutely love - but despite the lack of stereo boomsound speakers and a microsd card slot, the moto x is better in every way. well, the camera on the m8 was actually pretty decent in low light, just as long as you didn't need to zoom or crop.
but so far, I am loving the moto x as it feels lighter, smoother and more responsive than the g3 by far, and even the m8. I love the amoled screen, the inky blacks are awesome especially at night. Feels just as premium as the m8, and way more premium the the plastic fantastic g3. especially with the leather back, it feels organic and unique.
highly recommended.
Well, I took the plunge and ordered a 32gb pure edition (I have T-Mobile). Moto says it should be here by the 22nd but I have read there are delays in the 32gb
Selling the G3 and N5 should more than offset the cost of the moto X.
I just need a fluid experience and regardless of the bells and whistles of the G3, they don't mean crap if the user experience is crap.
Thanks for all the input.
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Well, I took the plunge and ordered a 32gb pure edition (I have T-Mobile). Moto says it should be here by the 22nd but I have read there are delays in the 32gb
Selling the G3 and N5 should more than offset the cost of the moto X.
I just need a fluid experience and regardless of the bells and whistles of the G3, they don't mean crap if the user experience is crap.
Thanks for all the input.
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My 32gb I ordered last week shipped the next day. Depends on the configuration I think.
The benchmarks also prove how laggy and slow the G3 is compared to the X. In my opinion it doesn't even closely compare to the Moto X in design, ergonomics, performance, call quality or speaker output. Might have a slight edge on display and camera quality.
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The benchmarks also prove how laggy and slow the G3 is compared to the X. In my opinion it doesn't even closely compare to the Moto X in design, ergonomics, performance, call quality or speaker output. Might have a slight edge on display and camera quality.
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More than slight.
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Some times I want to throw this thing against the wall. It was my stupid fault getting this phone (G3). My wife got one and I liked some of the features like the IR blaster and knock on/off, but I didn't take time with it to see the lagging. My N5 battery seems to be draining fast, so I got the green eyed monster and hastily went with the G3.
I just hope I won't be waiting a month for my moto X to arrive.
I sold my g3 after less than a week having it. The 801 can't drive the screen and it's laggy as hell. Love my Moto X so far and hoping for better battery with L which you know we will be one of the first to get.
I left the LG G3 Verizon and got a Custom Moto X 2014 on VZW. I went White, Gold, Brown Leather 32GB. I need root but other then that im happy. The leather could be thicker and better but. Ordered 10/7 and got 10/13.
Am i the only here who loved g3 and it's linda missing him? Got a moto X 2014, and i miss a lot of the functionalities and the câmera quality, wich i proved yesterday that is not that good on x.

Thoughts from those of you who switched from a Nexus 5. Is it a good upgrade?

I have had the N5 since last November and I love the phone but it looks like Google will not be releasing a phone with this screen size anytime soon. Would like the features that the Moto X has with regards to waking the phone and a few other tweaks that they do.
I have a code from cyber Monday so it would cost $400 today, which is a great price compared to the Nexus 6 and other devices. Do I need a new phone? No, but I would like a new one to play around with for the next year until something better comes along.
The only thing it looks like I would really miss is the wireless charging.
So, for those of you who have come from the N5, was it the right choice?
Thanks
I thought it was going to be mostly a sidegrade with a couple bonus features and it ended up feeling like a reasonable UPgrade. The build is far nicer and more robust feeling, the curved glass on front that wraps around the edges feels infinetly nicer on your face. The moto display is just as awesome as I thought it would be, battery life is much better. The speaker for ringing/media is WORLDS AND WORLDS better, louder, clearer, deeper.
I think its well worth it, add to that, I sold my 5 for $260 (16GB black)
The camera is barely an improvement. Everything else is a pretty significant improvement here even though the specs dont show much, go ahead, it will be money well spent! The nexus 6 is just too big and too expensive!
I have both. The N5 is still an amazing phone but the Moto X is in a class all its own. It's a definite upgrade and well worth every penny, ESPECIALLY with the cyber Monday discount.
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I traded my wifes N5 for a Moto X 2014 and i think it is a substantial upgrade. I benchmarked it even though it is an att phone with all of the att bloat and it still did 44000 antutu, whereas my N5 best score fully rom'd and custom kernel and everything only got 41750. I know some people think benchmarks are useless, but i like seeing higher scores from phones that have better specs.
I honestly think the camera on the x is not as good. I miss hdr+ and think the ois on the nexus is better, despite being a lower mp. The moto does feel better in hand to me and i didnt know how much i would love the dimple on the back. Its great to have to stabilize the phone with one hand.
Overall, the price is right, you can sell your N5 (i sold my n5 for $250 locally), and you are more up to date with the new phones out there.
Just my opinion.
Nick
I was hoping the camera would be just as good or a little better than on the N5, one person says that it is and another says it is not. Of course I know this is all subjective and I will be the only person who can determine this. I wish the camera was definitely better and not so close in quality.
Looks like I am just going to go ahead and order the Moto X, I will keep the N5 for a little bit just in case I don't like it and then I will try and sell it.
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I was hoping the camera would be just as good or a little better than on the N5, one person says that it is and another says it is not. Of course I know this is all subjective and I will be the only person who can determine this. I wish the camera was definitely better and not so close in quality.
Looks like I am just going to go ahead and order the Moto X, I will keep the N5 for a little bit just in case I don't like it and then I will try and sell it.
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I honestly feel like the Nexus 5 is a bit snappier plus the camera on my Moto x doesn't seem to focus easily. I still think it's worth the upgrade though due to the build quality and the extras like active display etc. I always felt like I was going to break my nexus 5 at any moment
I remember I used to love the AMOLED display on my old Moto x but I'm having a little trouble getting used to it again. I know that's just temporary though and eventually it will be vice versa. Just some things to consider though
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I honestly feel like the Nexus 5 is a bit snappier plus the camera on my Moto x doesn't seem to focus easily. I still think it's worth the upgrade though due to the build quality and the extras like active display etc. I always felt like I was going to break my nexus 5 at any moment
I remember I used to love the AMOLED display on my old Moto x but I'm having a little trouble getting used to it again. I know that's just temporary though and eventually it will be vice versa. Just some things to consider though
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There is no way the N5 is snappier than the Moto X. I use both phones daily and when side by side the Moto X is noticeably faster and more responsive than the N5. I'm running stock KitKat on both devices.
I do agree that the camera on the Moto X leaves a bit to be desired but for my needs it's just fine. I do think it is a little better than the N5's camera but not by much. Both cameras are capable of producing some really nice shots, it just seems that conditions have to be just right in order to do so.
And yeah, the screen does take some getting used to. Both my N5 and my iPhone 6 have near perfect color calibration so whenever I pick up the Moto X it always looks excessively warm to me. But I'm using CF.Lumen to fix it so mine is a LOT better now. The Moto X does have waaaay better viewing angles than the N5 though so it's a trade off.
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I was very torn about spending the money but made a very last minute decision to buy the moto x last night before the coupon expired. It is going to be a fairly expensive toy/experiment to play around with at first to see if I like it better than the N5, but I am looking forward to it. I figure I can sell either one to make some money back in the end.
I also decided to get it engraved with "pure X moto", I may regret this later but I liked it at the time. doh!
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I was very torn about spending the money but made a very last minute decision to buy the moto x last night before the coupon expired. It is going to be a fairly expensive toy/experiment to play around with at first to see if I like it better than the N5, but I am looking forward to it. I figure I can sell either one to make some money back in the end.
I also decided to get it engraved with "pure X moto", I may regret this later but I liked it at the time. doh!
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If you can afford it, I'd hang on to both phones, that's what I'm doing. I feel like the N5 is going to be a highly coveted phone a couple years from now, it's easily the best Nexus phone so far (yes, even better than the N6 IMO). Plus, if you are a fan of flashing custom ROMs and the like, you'll need the N5 for that because it's highly unlikely that the X will see much development.
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There is no way the N5 is snappier than the Moto X. I use both phones daily and when side by side the Moto X is noticeably faster and more responsive than the N5. I'm running stock KitKat on both devices.
I do agree that the camera on the Moto X leaves a bit to be desired but for my needs it's just fine. I do think it is a little better than the N5's camera but not by much. Both cameras are capable of producing some really nice shots, it just seems that conditions have to be just right in order to do so.
And yeah, the screen does take some getting used to. Both my N5 and my iPhone 6 have near perfect color calibration so whenever I pick up the Moto X it always looks excessively warm to me. But I'm using CF.Lumen to fix it so mine is a LOT better now. The Moto X does have waaaay better viewing angles than the N5 though so it's a trade off.
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Very true, the Moto X is easily the snappier of the two, and is probably the snappiest phone on the market right now. The problem with the camera seems to be with the focus, especially with a foreground and a background subject or macro shots, it struggles to focus correctly. I'm still hoping Motorola to bring some sort of worthy software upgrade to the camera now that lollipop allows more control over the camera hardware. With flash though, the Moto X does seem to perform better than the N5 almost every time. Overall, it seems to be on par with the N5 or a little bit better than the N5, but yes, we all wish that the camera was a little more better!
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There is no way the N5 is snappier than the Moto X. I use both phones daily and when side by side the Moto X is noticeably faster and more responsive than the N5. I'm running stock KitKat on both devices.
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I still have my Nexus 5 and use it from time to time, there is definitely some noticeable stuttering in some apps that I've never experienced on the Nexus 5. I know certain apps are a bad comparison, the Facebook app for example, however I still have never experienced any lag, ever on the Nexus.
Nexus 5 has the stock lollipop image and my Moto was updated to lollipop immediately after powering it on. Maybe it's due to the OTA update
I love the new moto x. Just got it a couple weeks ago to replace my 5 and it's better in every way. I've always had nexus phones and shunned away from other customised android phones but the features Motorola adds in are actually useful and have a real world use unlike all the crap on galaxy phoned.
i prefer the moto x display, but the dev is literally nonexistent.
I switched from the Nexus 5 to the Moto X 2014 because Google ended up refunding me the cost of the Nexus 5 due to a defect under warranty. I posted my thoughts about the two on another forum and updated them below after having the Moto X for a week.
Build Quality
Overall, it feels more solid than the Nexus 5, not that the Nexus 5 was a poorly made phone. Both are fine here but I would give the edge to the Moto X. I got the royal blue back, and I will say that it's more slippery than my black Nexus 5, but not as slippery as my wife's white Nexus 5. I definitely prefer the soft touch of the black Nexus 5 though, as I really feel like I need to hold on to my phone.
Screen
I'd say it's a wash. You're basically looking at a middle of the road AMOLED screen vs a middle of the road LCD, with all the benefits and issues of each. Moto X has better blacks, brighter colors, no backlight bleed (since there's no backlight). But it has slightly pink whites unless you turn the brightness up. The Nexus 5 has more pure whites and gets a little brighter, plus you won't have to worry about burn-in.
Sound
Moto X is the clear winner here. Ignoring front vs bottom firing, the Moto X speaker is much louder and clearer than the Nexus 5. Headphone quality is about the same, though the Moto X response is lacking a bit in the sub-bass frequencies. I have the Sennheiser Momentum In-Ear and the ATH-M50, and the bass lacks some impact when using my Moto X headphone jack vs the Nexus 5. The Moto X headphone output also has more noticeable hiss than the Nexus 5.
Performance
Basically the same.
Camera
I don't think either of them have a great camera... but I also don't think the Note 4 has a great camera and that was rated as one of the best cameras on a phone. They just can't compare to even a cheap point and shoot. The lack of OIS is noticeable in low light though, especially when I was trying to take pictures of my Christmas lights. Neither camera took a great photo but the Nexus 5 was more acceptable.
Software
Again, very similar here. I like some of the Motorola tweaks but I don't make frequent use of many of them. Always listening is a neat gimmick but I don't find myself using it often "in real life." Active Display isn't that much of an improvement over a notification LED in my mind, but Approach triggering it is nice. "Sleeping" mode is a nice improvement over the complete lack thereof in KitKat but Lollipop implemented "Downtime" so it's not a killer feature. Only real annoyance so far is that Moto Display constantly triggers in my car even if I disable the Approach functionality.
Battery Life
Battery life is a wash. The Moto X gets better screen on time if I am actively using it, but the Nexus 5 seems to have better idle time.
Overall
I'm not really sure which I prefer. The better loudspeaker on the Moto X is a huge upgrade, but it's unfortunate that the headphone output isn't as good. The screens are about the same, though I do like the slightly bigger size of the Moto X. It's also unfortunate that the Moto X is not using soft touch plastic for its colors, despite saying that it has a "soft finish."
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bobloblawsum said:
I still have my Nexus 5 and use it from time to time, there is definitely some noticeable stuttering in some apps that I've never experienced on the Nexus 5. I know certain apps are a bad comparison, the Facebook app for example, however I still have never experienced any lag, ever on the Nexus.
Nexus 5 has the stock lollipop image and my Moto was updated to lollipop immediately after powering it on. Maybe it's due to the OTA update
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Yeah, the N5 is completely lag and stutter free, there's no arguing that. But so is my Moto X, I've never noticed a single stutter. Maybe in FB, but it's no worse than the N5, and in my experience it's better. The N5 is a ridiculously smooth device, but side by side with my X, the X is smoother yet. One thing I find hilarious is how so many people dislike Android because it's not as smooth as the iPhone, but I own an iPhone 6 (typing on it now) and both the N5 and Moto X are actually smoother (at least in the UI) than the iPhone 6 is. It's quite remarkable, really. Both are amazing devices, and that's why I'll never sell my N5, and I'll likely hang on to my Moto X forever as well.
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I bought the N5 on launch day last year and loved it. I got bored with it around august and went with a G3. The G3 was great at first because it was new, but as the days went on, I couldn't stand the lag and the LG skin. So my dilemma was do I wait for a nexus 6, go back to the nexus 5 or try something new?
I started seeing all this hype over the moto X and I figured, "what the hell" and I ordered it. Best damn phone I've ever owned. Yes, there are some draw backs, like the camera (it's not bad, just no where near the G3), but overall, the look, the feel, the solidness, the pure android experience with moto add-ons (not moto trying to re-invent the wheel) and battery life make this phone awesome. I get double the SOT of my N5 and the same as the G3. Moto's voice assist is great and active display is second to none.
Well worth it.
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Yeah, the N5 is completely lag and stutter free, there's no arguing that. But so is my Moto X, I've never noticed a single stutter. Maybe in FB, but it's no worse than the N5, and in my experience it's better. The N5 is a ridiculously smooth device, but side by side with my X, the X is smoother yet. One thing I find hilarious is how so many people dislike Android because it's not as smooth as the iPhone, but I own an iPhone 6 (typing on it now) and both the N5 and Moto X are actually smoother (at least in the UI) than the iPhone 6 is. It's quite remarkable, really. Both are amazing devices, and that's why I'll never sell my N5, and I'll likely hang on to my Moto X forever as well.
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You have convinced me to do a factory reset on my moto x. Sounds like I might be having some issues from the 5.0 update
bobloblawsum said:
You have convinced me to do a factory reset on my moto x. Sounds like I might be having some issues from the 5.0 update
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I have no experience with 5.0 on the X, but I do with the N5... I'm not a fan. That's why I'm still running KK on both devices. Lollipop has just too many issues for me.
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Thanks for all the input, I appreciate it!
I have the Moto X on order and now the waiting begins, I guess I should have skipped the engraving...
Got a pure edition with slate back, black front and silver metallic accents and for the engraving: pure X moto
And I also ordered the Gelli case since I was able to get 30% off accessories with the cyber Monday coupon code.

Help me make a smart decision

Hello
Im finally upgrading from a htc explorer( while being small i loved how my battery could last me 3 to 4 days easy) i've kept it for 3 years with custom roms and was enough for me up until recently when i had to start using other apps like skype, viber and facebook as a form of communication.
I'm looking for a 300€ or less smartphone that will last me 2 years a least and ended up with two deals that i found to be under the current price market:
a moto x first gen new for 250 or a google nexus 5 new for 289
as i see the nexus is a little bit stronger on paper and probably would get outdated way after the moto x
but the moto x is cheaper and does have a nice set of perks like better battery life, ergonomics and that motorola notification thingy, my only set back was reading about the display getting burned after months of use and the gossip that motorola by now being owned by lenovo would stop getting updates after lollipop or at least as quick
I would appreciate your input on this matter especially if you have both, If i have to read another review on these phone i rather gouge out my eyes
I dont really care about the camera, im more interested in a daily driver that can mutlitask some apps and if possible be up to date in at least a year or 2.
Thanks in advance
noobexplorer said:
Hello
Im finally upgrading from a htc explorer( while being small i loved how my battery could last me 3 to 4 days easy) i've kept it for 3 years with custom roms and was enough for me up until recently when i had to start using other apps like skype, viber and facebook as a form of communication.
I'm looking for a 300€ or less smartphone that will last me 2 years a least and ended up with two deals that i found to be under the current price market:
a moto x first gen new for 250 or a google nexus 5 new for 289
as i see the nexus is a little bit stronger on paper and probably would get outdated way after the moto x
but the moto x is cheaper and does have a nice set of perks like better battery life, ergonomics and that motorola notification thingy, my only set back was reading about the display getting burned after months of use and the gossip that motorola by now being owned by lenovo would stop getting updates after lollipop or at least as quick
I would appreciate your input on this matter especially if you have both, If i have to read another review on these phone i rather gouge out my eyes
I dont really care about the camera, im more interested in a daily driver that can mutlitask some apps and if possible be up to date in at least a year or 2.
Thanks in advance
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I don't know if I can help, but If I had the choice I think I would have gone with Nexus 5 for the sole purpose of having long lasting developer support. Nexus 6 is too big, but I am tied to Verizon, and went with Moto X 2013 Dev edition for 200 on amazon. I. Love. This. Phone. I don't think I would be happy going to a phone without all the moto apps baked in/moto phone moving forward... *shrugs*
What ever you do, take your needs, and then wants. And then make the choice, Lot's of choices with Nexus 5, Lot's of out of the box awesome with Moto X.:good:
If you want timely updates for the next two years and great long lasting developer support go for the nexus 5.
However the moto x is very unique because the out-of-the-box experience is fantastic, the motorola features are great and battery is good (way better than the nexus 5 if I'm not mistaken). Also, I've read this over and over and experienced it myself : it kind of eliminates the desire for custom roms (because stock is so great). So if you want to tweak the rom just stick xposed with gravitybox on it and you're good to go. All we need to wait for here is xposed compatibility for lollipop and we're set (of course everyone's waiting for the official lollipop update most importantly, but it's bound to happen!).
In my opinion the only downside to the moto x is that it will stop getting updates before the nexus 5. Hopefully we'll still have an active developing community when that happens!
So all in all, the way I see it is that it depends on if you value updates over user experience, or the other way around. If it were my choice I would go for the moto x!
I wouldn't expect another 2 years worth of updates for either device. I'd base my decision on size as long as you're only considering the developer edition Moto X.
noobexplorer said:
Hello
Im finally upgrading from a htc explorer( while being small i loved how my battery could last me 3 to 4 days easy) i've kept it for 3 years with custom roms and was enough for me up until recently when i had to start using other apps like skype, viber and facebook as a form of communication.
I'm looking for a 300€ or less smartphone that will last me 2 years a least and ended up with two deals that i found to be under the current price market:
a moto x first gen new for 250 or a google nexus 5 new for 289
as i see the nexus is a little bit stronger on paper and probably would get outdated way after the moto x
but the moto x is cheaper and does have a nice set of perks like better battery life, ergonomics and that motorola notification thingy, my only set back was reading about the display getting burned after months of use and the gossip that motorola by now being owned by lenovo would stop getting updates after lollipop or at least as quick
I would appreciate your input on this matter especially if you have both, If i have to read another review on these phone i rather gouge out my eyes
I dont really care about the camera, im more interested in a daily driver that can mutlitask some apps and if possible be up to date in at least a year or 2.
Thanks in advance
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Hi, i used for 3 months nexus 5, phone quality is bad, speaker quality is bad, power button rattles...battery bad etc
now i use just for 7 days moto x 2013, all i can say is i am happy with my moto.
noobexplorer said:
Hello
Im finally upgrading from a htc explorer( while being small i loved how my battery could last me 3 to 4 days easy) i've kept it for 3 years with custom roms and was enough for me up until recently when i had to start using other apps like skype, viber and facebook as a form of communication.
I'm looking for a 300€ or less smartphone that will last me 2 years a least and ended up with two deals that i found to be under the current price market:
a moto x first gen new for 250 or a google nexus 5 new for 289
as i see the nexus is a little bit stronger on paper and probably would get outdated way after the moto x
but the moto x is cheaper and does have a nice set of perks like better battery life, ergonomics and that motorola notification thingy, my only set back was reading about the display getting burned after months of use and the gossip that motorola by now being owned by lenovo would stop getting updates after lollipop or at least as quick
I would appreciate your input on this matter especially if you have both, If i have to read another review on these phone i rather gouge out my eyes
I dont really care about the camera, im more interested in a daily driver that can mutlitask some apps and if possible be up to date in at least a year or 2.
Thanks in advance
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I currently own Moto X and used my friend's Nexus 5 quite alot. Let me tell you pro's of both.
Moto X
1 ) Ideal size and display screen.
2) Good build quality and feel.
3) Very good speakers and earpiece.
4) Lag free, very good for day to day tasks
5) Good battery timings.
Nexus 5
1) Much better software support and development.
2) 1080p screen vs Moto X 720p screen.
3) Better hardware.
4) Better video quality with OIS.
My reply,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57905262
Having owned a N5 I would say don't do it!
Honestly there isn't anything much better on the N5. Sure processor and screen quality are spec'd better but they also consume more battery. The N5 has a tiny battery...only 100mA more than the X.
The X has awesome daily usability. The active display is a great way to see ALL your new messages and notifications. The speaker sounds more clear and less tingy than the N5. Earphone output is great when listening to music. The battery lasts all day with 3-5 screen hours.
Also in my experience there are two different LCD panels being used in the N5. My friends screen was more cooler and blue. I unfortunately had a warm panel. But that's a user preference thing.
You can't go wrong with the X. Also after the updates to KitKat. The camera is actually pretty damn good. You have to use the google camera app though.
You can't go wrong with the X. I've had mine for two weeks and don't see myself upgrading until 2016.
I wouldn't even consider the second gen. The dimensions of the first X is beauty in the hands.
My post is allover the place but it is basically praising the X and saying the N5 isn't all that great.
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My reply also,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/please-help-make-smart-decision-t2988900/page3
in short for that kind of money get an lg g2

[Q] Moto X vs. iPhone 5

Hello, everyone!
Help me to choose between these two phones.
I have a xt1053 32 gb. But I want to use iPhone 5. Actully beacuse of camera.
But moto x have a great display and good battery.
What you can say about iPhone 5?
Thanx.
I also have a 1053 32GB. And even tho I love Iphones, I would not change it, mostly because of the screen. After getting used to a 4.7inch screen, its a really letdown switching to a 4inch screen, believe me.
Now if we were talking about iphone 6, then yes... give me that phone every day, against any other Android in the market
Then use the iPhone 5. The Moto X doesn't care, neither do we.
virusalone said:
Hello, everyone!
Help me to choose between these two phones.
I have a xt1053 32 gb. But I want to use iPhone 5. Actully beacuse of camera.
But moto x have a great display and good battery.
What you can say about iPhone 5?
Thanx.
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Its a personal choice. It comes down to what YOU like best about each phone. What trade offs are you willing to live with? Which OS do you prefer? What apps do you want to use? Do you want to use widgets on the home screen (like Android can do)? etc.
While I use a 2013 X as my personal phone, I use various Android and iOS devices for my job (see link in my signature). I can't tell you which is the best phone for YOU.
For example, my wife is using an iPhone 5S only because the ladies in the neighborhood chat via iMessage. It was a nightmare trying to deal with that (multiple SMS/MMS messages for each incoming/outgoing), and finding an SMS/MMS app that worked well with it on Android. She really wants to come back to Android, but the other ladies wont switch to a platform agnostic messenger (BBM, Hangouts, Samsung ChatOn, etc).
KidJoe said:
Its a personal choice.
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The most reason I want to try iPhone 5 is the better camera. (is it really better than moto x ot not?)
The phone photography is my hobby.
I am quite happy using my Moto X. It's still rocks, as for me
do you guys really find so good moto x display? i'm not saying iphone's is better, just i don't think it is so good!
i love the amoled display and moto x active display, but i still think the display is not so good.. my old phone (Meizu MX2) has a way better display!
sorry for the OT
i think iphone 5s has a better camera (my girlfriend has it) but no clue about iphone 5
virusalone said:
The most reason I want to try iPhone 5 is the better camera. (is it really better than moto x ot not?)
The phone photography is my hobby.
I am quite happy using my Moto X. It's still rocks, as for me
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Is the iPhone 5 camera better than the X? Yes, but its marginal, and also depends on the lighting conditions.
When we went to Disney last April, it was cloudy, over cast, etc... My wife's 5S outdoor pictures were really no better than those taken with my X. Similar thing happens outside on Sunny, well lit, days. Its those mixed, or back lit, or indoor, or not idea light conditions that you notice slightly better photo's with the IP5.
If you like everything about the X and Android, you'll probably not like switching to iOS.
Im using both, but the moto x is more versitile than my iPhone 5
You'll really love the active notification it's really helpful specially if you need a quick glance on your phone
The only reason i use my iPhone 5 is for the games, instagram and my portable wifi hotspot
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No idea how you could be between android and iOS... Very different... Cant imagine liking both.
Cell phone photography as a hobby sounds weird as hell. If your into photography get a decent camera instead of using a phone...
Just my .02 .... You asked for it *shrug*
Iphone 5 is smaller, lighter but keep in mind it may feel toyish. If you like iOS and don't mind smaller screen go for it. At the end of the day for me it all drills down to $$...
Ok, thanx for your answers. I think I will stay with my moto x.
I was wondering what the iPhone site had to say>
virusalone said:
The most reason I want to try iPhone 5 is the better camera. (is it really better than moto x ot not?)
The phone photography is my hobby.
I am quite happy using my Moto X. It's still rocks, as for me
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Why not get a real camera instead? DSLRs can be and are affordable. Even a P&S is a better option.
If this photography hobby of yours must involve a phone, get the Nokia PureView.
Yes, if photography is a passion.... Why waste great opportunity for great pics with any phone camera? Even a cheap real camera will put any phone camera to shame , and they can be very small. ?

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