Related
was thinking about this possibly being a sweet setup hopefully miracast will be implemented into the device or possible being implemented into xbmc having that along the airplay option on xbmc enabled would make this a pretty sweet device
i purchased(preordered one) but I was hoping it would be more so like a media center device kinda like google tv but no hdmi out so no google tv overlay. But if I could use this to do miracast with my 4.2 sgs3 and whenever friends come over can use xbmc to allow them to do airplay that would be really cool
reason i bring up miracast support is because supposedly is supported in tegra 3
i've been trying to figure/find out how you go about setting up a miracast server but the documentation doesn't seem to exist not saying that i have the ability to implement but i wouldn't mind taking a look into it
thoughts?
This is more of a question for xbmc team. I suggest you provide that feedback on their forum. There was a talk of xbmc supporting miracast but no eta.
Sent from my GT-I9305 using xda premium
As long as it supports PLEX, I am sold!
Keland44 said:
was thinking about this possibly being a sweet setup hopefully miracast will be implemented into the device or possible being implemented into xbmc having that along the airplay option on xbmc enabled would make this a pretty sweet device
i purchased(preordered one) but I was hoping it would be more so like a media center device kinda like google tv but no hdmi out so no google tv overlay. But if I could use this to do miracast with my 4.2 sgs3 and whenever friends come over can use xbmc to allow them to do airplay that would be really cool
reason i bring up miracast support is because supposedly is supported in tegra 3
i've been trying to figure/find out how you go about setting up a miracast server but the documentation doesn't seem to exist not saying that i have the ability to implement but i wouldn't mind taking a look into it
thoughts?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've heard the documentation costs around $200 and that might not even be all of it. Or I might be pulling that number out of air, don't remember where I saw that, but did find this:
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=147320
I am more interested in seeing the Android Transporter Player ported to Ouya, except that they haven't released their source code on the sending side yet...
https://github.com/esrlabs/AndroidTransporterPlayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyoZoNA8U24
~Troop
I'm not from familiar with Miracast. All I know is what the Wiki page said. It really reads like DNLA. And from my experience, this has been something that can be app dependent. Since I have no experience with Miracast, I don't know if it's full mirroring or just certain apps.
That said, Miracast may just be work versus just installing individual apps. Unless there is something in the application code for specific devices, if you side load an APK, it should run on the Ouya. Doesn't mean it will run well or look correct. Thus, you may be able to just side load XBMC. I know I'll try it with Plex, Netflix, Hulu, various sports--MLB, NHL, NBA, etc--and so on.
I couldn't figure out what the end result you were suggesting about friends coming over and their mobile devices.
lovekeiiy said:
I'm not from familiar with Miracast. All I know is what the Wiki page said. It really reads like DNLA. And from my experience, this has been something that can be app dependent. Since I have no experience with Miracast, I don't know if it's full mirroring or just certain apps.
That said, Miracast may just be work versus just installing individual apps. Unless there is something in the application code for specific devices, if you side load an APK, it should run on the Ouya. Doesn't mean it will run well or look correct. Thus, you may be able to just side load XBMC. I know I'll try it with Plex, Netflix, Hulu, various sports--MLB, NHL, NBA, etc--and so on.
I couldn't figure out what the end result you were suggesting about friends coming over and their mobile devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe Miracast is primarily for screencasting - ie it just mirrors what is on the device's screen onto the TV or whatever is receiving. And I believe the previous poster was saying that it would be nice if it is easy to screencast from your phone to the TV and allow visiting friends to be able to easily screencast their content as well - so if one person has a video they want to show everyone, it's not a hassle to pull it up on the big screen. I think this is what a lot of us want.
~Troop
Trooper_Max said:
I believe Miracast is primarily for screencasting - ie it just mirrors what is on the device's screen onto the TV or whatever is receiving. And I believe the previous poster was saying that it would be nice if it is easy to screencast from your phone to the TV and allow visiting friends to be able to easily screencast their content as well - so if one person has a video they want to show everyone, it's not a hassle to pull it up on the big screen. I think this is what a lot of us want.
~Troop
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea this is exactly what i'm lookin for been keeping an eye on it have google alerts set up for pretty much anytime miracast is being searched on the net to possibly find any tidbit of info that might be helpful with this. thanks Troop
video streaming
Hi all. Bit late to the party but my ouya comes tomorrow
Assuming no problems on sideloading why not just use
twonky. Been using for ages bouncing files between my
nas drive, xperia s, xoom2 and Xbox. Even adhoc with
android.......jus puttin it out there..... It's spot on even with
playlists and web streams.
Will it be possible at some point to use Chromecast as a gateway to use the TV as second independent monitor, rather than a mirror of the laptop/desktop with a browser extension, maybe in conjunction with Ultramon?
I have Ultramon installed in my laptop. When I turn my iPad into a second monitor using an app like AirDisply, Ultramon immediately picks it up as the second monitor and provides all the functionality for a second monitor - position, resolution, task bar, etc.
Can I achieve something similar with Chromecast + Ultramon, if not now in the future?
New Daddy said:
Will it be possible at some point to use Chromecast as a gateway to use the TV as second independent monitor, rather than a mirror of the laptop/desktop with a browser extension, maybe in conjunction with Ultramon?
I have Ultramon installed in my laptop. When I turn my iPad into a second monitor using an app like AirDisply, Ultramon immediately picks it up as the second monitor and provides all the functionality for a second monitor - position, resolution, task bar, etc.
Can I achieve something similar with Chromecast + Ultramon, if not now in the future?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No the CCast wouldn't do that since it would be a waste since the CCast connects to the same network the Android device does so why send it to CCast when you could send it to the Device directly.
CCast does however act as a second monitor for Android and other devices...
New Daddy said:
Will it be possible at some point to use Chromecast as a gateway to use the TV as second independent monitor, rather than a mirror of the laptop/desktop with a browser extension, maybe in conjunction with Ultramon?
I have Ultramon installed in my laptop. When I turn my iPad into a second monitor using an app like AirDisply, Ultramon immediately picks it up as the second monitor and provides all the functionality for a second monitor - position, resolution, task bar, etc.
Can I achieve something similar with Chromecast + Ultramon, if not now in the future?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Future, maybe, but the 1-2 second lag from having to compress the video (and Chromecast having to decompress it at the other end) would be annoying at best.
bhiga said:
Future, maybe, but the 1-2 second lag from having to compress the video (and Chromecast having to decompress it at the other end) would be annoying at best.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh... I never noticed any annoying lag when I use iPad with AirDisplay. I guess iPad has lot more processing power than Chromecast.
AirPlay is designed for screen mirroring and hence low latency. The current methods of Chromecast desktop mirroring essentially make the desktop a video stream first.
Likely this will change once they're screen mirroring is implemented by devices.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
bhiga said:
AirPlay is designed for screen mirroring and hence low latency. The current methods of Chromecast desktop mirroring essentially make the desktop a video stream first.
Likely this will change once they're screen mirroring is implemented by devices.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm telling you. With AirPlay, there is more than mirroring. You can use the iPad as a second monitor. It works perfectly with Ultramon.
New Daddy said:
I'm telling you. With AirPlay, there is more than mirroring. You can use the iPad as a second monitor. It works perfectly with Ultramon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, and screen mirroring/output isn't the core intent of Chromecast, and I'm not sure screen mirroring will ever make it to iOS for Chromecast.
Long story short, we all can want Chromecast to be more than it is and it's growing steadily, but there will be limits based on its core design.
Thinking about it more... I think Google could (and probably is) making the screen mirroring similar to how RemoteX works in Windows - instead of sending a picture of a red box, send a command to draw a red box - much less data and identical result as long as both source and Chromecast share the same drawing language and techniques. Definitely possible for Android-Chromecast, not sure if/how it could be implemented outside of code that Google owns though, including Windows as a source.
Apple has a definite advantage there as they can make sure iOS, AppleTV and MacOS all share a common drawing implementation.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
Problem is, can't use computer when full screen for other tasks
You cannot use the computer screen for anything else when using Chromecast. thios would be a win win
Hello does a rooted and rom chromecast have mirroring capabilities, what apps can give the chromecast the ability to mirror the android devices it is casted from? thank you in andvance
wilspeak said:
Hello does a rooted and rom chromecast have mirroring capabilities, what apps can give the chromecast the ability to mirror the android devices it is casted from? thank you in andvance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Wilspeak,
To the best of my knowledge there isn't any mirroring software available in the wild yet for the chromecast - google has placed mirrorcast code into the chromecast as of the latest OTA however there has been no available software to utilise this put forward as of yet. Hopefully we will see this out of Google shortly though as it looks like they've been prepping for it.
Well we know it can mirror is some respect because Googlecast extension pretty much does this already.
As @Kyonz said the issue is the software available not the actual CCast itself. Unless you want to say the Whitelist is preventing someone like Koush from re-implementing it in his All Cast.
I suspect whatever comes after KitKat will have Mirroring to the CCast in it's display settings.
Asphyx said:
I suspect whatever comes after KitKat will have Mirroring to the CCast in it's display settings.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup, or in some vendor-supplied add-on like how Samsung's AllShare Cast is.
Plus I expect ROM-level mirroring will be far more smart and efficient than Chrome's brute-force casting. Raster/bitmap content will probably still need to be transmitted, but standard UI stuff could/should be rendered by Chromecast itself.
bhiga said:
Yup, or in some vendor-supplied add-on like how Samsung's AllShare Cast is.
Plus I expect ROM-level mirroring will be far more smart and efficient than Chrome's brute-force casting. Raster/bitmap content will probably still need to be transmitted, but standard UI stuff could/should be rendered by Chromecast itself.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My only fear is they will implement it to work like a Miracast and require direct connection via Wireless.
That would be a shame.
I like some aspects of Miracast such as being able to add it as a display to a PC, But that whole Wireless only thing is not the way I would want to see this go.
I suppose instead of actually mirroring via Raster they could send a template package that contained most of the graphics needed to build thus not requiring a lot of bandwidth to update.
Will be interesting to see how they do it.
Hello,
I hab get my chromecast. But i cannot mirror my screen.
I have a LG G2 and a Note 10.1 2014.
Miracast (LG) cannot find the chromecast.
Screen mirroring (Samsung) cannot find the chromecast.
On YouTube i Haß no problem. Everthing okay.
But screen mirroring doesnot work.
Can anyone help me?
Chromecast does not support miracast.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
Nor AllShare Cast.
Answered your first post.
brunok21 said:
Hello,
I hab get my chromecast. But i cannot mirror my screen.
I have a LG G2 and a Note 10.1 2014.
Miracast (LG) cannot find the chromecast.
Screen mirroring (Samsung) cannot find the chromecast.
On YouTube i Haß no problem. Everthing okay.
But screen mirroring doesnot work.
Can anyone help me?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
CCast is capable of mirroring but it does not use Miracast to do so and currently Google has not supported the feature yet.
We KNOW it is capable of doing it as it does it on the PC side in the Googlecast Ext for chrome.
I do expect they will support it in the future and if not them then some 3rd Party Dev will make it and Google will hopefully white list it.
Mirroring has some concerns over Privacy and I'm sure Google doesn't want to allow an unsecure implementation that could get the bad rep of being a privacy problem and send the concept into the scrap heap.
Asphyx said:
CCast is capable of mirroring but it does not use Miracast to do so and currently Google has not supported the feature yet.
We KNOW it is capable of doing it as it does it on the PC side in the Googlecast Ext for chrome.
I do expect they will support it in the future and if not them then some 3rd Party Dev will make it and Google will hopefully white list it.
Mirroring has some concerns over Privacy and I'm sure Google doesn't want to allow an unsecure implementation that could get the bad rep of being a privacy problem and send the concept into the scrap heap.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If anybody would use this thing called google search you would see that Google is working on enabling it for android
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
cannondaleV2000 said:
If anybody would use this thing called google search you would see that Google is working on enabling it for android
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL it's hard enough to get people to read and search for previous posts that have solved their problem here... you expect them to start using Google too?
Just FYI to everyone....we KNOW the CCast can do Mirroring as the GoogleCast Ext for chrome does this already on the PC. Unfortunately the holdup on seeing this on the Android side is not the Chromecast but Chrome itself!
The Mobile versions of Chrome do not at this point support Chrome Extensions which means you can't run the Googlecast extension at this time.
If you have a PC click on the Googlecast icon, Look in the upper right hand corner of the menu it presents click on the little down arrow, and see that you can Cast an Entire Screen (noted as Experimental).
So the CCast has this capability!
Just a matter of creating an App for Android and iOS that does this, Making it secure for Privacy concerns, and Whitelisting it.
The fact they are experimenting with it on a PC tells you everything you need to know about Google's Intentions regarding Mirroring.
It's coming the only thing we don't know is when!
Asphyx said:
LOL it's hard enough to get people to read and search for previous posts that have solved their problem here... you expect them to start using Google too?
Just FYI to everyone....we KNOW the CCast can do Mirroring as the GoogleCast Ext for chrome does this already on the PC. Unfortunately the holdup on seeing this on the Android side is not the Chromecast but Chrome itself!
The Mobile versions of Chrome do not at this point support Chrome Extensions which means you can't run the Googlecast extension at this time.
If you have a PC click on the Googlecast icon, Look in the upper right hand corner of the menu it presents click on the little down arrow, and see that you can Cast an Entire Screen (noted as Experimental).
So the CCast has this capability!
Just a matter of creating an App for Android and iOS that does this, Making it secure for Privacy concerns, and Whitelisting it.
The fact they are experimenting with it on a PC tells you everything you need to know about Google's Intentions regarding Mirroring.
It's coming the only thing we don't know is when!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Google is working on enabling android screen mirroring like the Apple TV and an ipad can do butu know for androidones
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
phone to pc then pc to tv mirror threesome
sooo. while we (im)patiently wait for googhell to implement mirroring for android, i just mirror to pc and then mirror pc to chromecast.. but its laggy because of the 3 device wifi bridge.. hope this helps
I have a question thanks to the answer.
Mobdro application can work for Android and iOS devices on phones, myas computer.
But I don't know how to use it on smart tv device.
Can someone explain it to me?