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UPDATED 12-23-10 Tests/Review : Sony Ericsson Live View with U.S. Galaxy Tab & EU F/W

UPDATED 12-23-10 Tests/Review : Sony Ericsson Live View with U.S. Galaxy Tab & EU F/W
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12-9-10
Well after a long 3 days of waiting i FINALLY got it =)
I plan to test it with the different firmwares of the tab and post up my progress as well as the different plugins since there isn't much online about it.
Well as of other reviews yes it seems like disconnect issues, but only when i turn it on from being off (not standby) it just connects then disconnects but it eventually connects. I've had similiar issues with my headset and my car kit for media both being connected and both would get disconnected so it leads me to more that it is software related than all being hardware.
So far It stays connected, this is only from just having it in the charger and testing.. im running tasker so it will alert me if its disconnected or connected everytime soo.. so far it looks good with the JM6 firmware on the TMOBILE TAB. I will test with the latest firmware after i run all the tests im gonna make a video review with the tab as well.
I really hope this works well because this will be the perfect accessory for keeping the TAB in our pockets while receiving calls and messages.
I'm gonna wait to have it fully charged before doing extensive testing, but i have recieved calls and missed calls and txt messages and it works great as well as a contact call plugin =)
I will also be looking for alternative wrist bands, even though the original one is ok its only slightly uncomfortable because it is somewhat elastic.
12-10-10
Currently uploading 3 videos of my initial review of the first day of use, as well as a video of the custom wrist band i had put on to replace the wrist strap it originally came with, the videos are gonna take a few hours to upload since there 1080p and about 2gb's a piece and this is the second time since the first time failed uploading at some point so hopefully it will get uploaded fully or else i will have to reconvert the vids to 720p and try again later but for now here are pics of the new wrist strap i put on.
This is a wrist strap i got at a local mall , the strap cost me $35 installed and its a 24mm band but trimmed at the mounting points to 20mm to fit on liveview's wrist strap mount, there is a issue though doing this will expose the back and allows the live view to popout of the mount, im looking into how to remedy this by putting some sort of thick fabric or something behind to help prevent it from popping out.
When my videos get uploaded you will see how it pops out.
also in the pictures there is a custom zagg protector put on just the other day , got it for free so its a crappy job by zagg lol. Can't complain for free.
1'st video of my review is up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukKes5EJlOc&hd=1
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THE REST OF THE VIDEOS ARE STILL IN PROGRESS OF UPLOADING.
12-11-10
2nd part of my video of review is up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxjvkOwGDSs&hd=1
3rd part of my video of review is up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCt_HpdWxao&hd=1
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12-13-10 - RECONNECTION FIX TEST'S
Sooooo good news after having some issues here and there really not as bad as others with other android phones, I may have found a solution to fixing the reconnection issues, I rarely get disconnected, so I'm unsure if this fixes that issue, but the problematic issue I had was reconnecting from the liveview being off or when my bt was off as well as being disconnected, but I found a way and still testing to make sure its a viable solution to fixing the reconnection issues.
Ironically I waited the whole day waiting for a disconnect after trying the fix the first time and it seemed to work so just need further testing
12-20-10 - RAIN TEST
So a test i wasn't intending doing, happened..
Its been raining a lot in california and i was rushing it outside to get into the car and as soon as i was inside i noticed my liveview had popped out of my watch mount.. i search everywhere in the car and decide to go look out side in the rain.. well
it was in a puddle =\ fully soaked in water..
i grab it run into the car, the screen still works fine doesn't seem like theres water inside maybe a lil but it wouldn't connect to my tab. So i turn on the heater and put it on the vents and leave it there for about 10mins or so, as i do this i keep checking and still not connecting tried doing my fix for reconnection and no luck as well as restarting the tab..
Well finnally after doing my fix one last time i was able to connect, ironically the liveview was pretty hot but the screen was fine no water or anything.. so i guess the liveview can handle some rain even a puddle .. few..
Video of my reconnection fix up this week.. sorry holiday delays.
12-23-10
So i figured out how to keep the watch from popping off i'm going to post a video of what to do but basically what i did was use a piece of clear scotch tape and ran it through the opposite side of the usb charge port on the band (harder since the band can't be easily removed with how tight its attached to my watch mount) and just left enough tape to put on the live views side and some on the bottom so now the tape acts like a hinge so when i need to charge it i just lift it up without removing it from the band and i can charge it and NEVER have to worry about it popping off anymore =)

Thanks man, look forward to the updates as I'm interested in one of these too. Currently on sale at play.com in the UK for £50

UPLOADING VIDEOS NOW daym 3 parts 2gb's a piece gonna take a while to process lol.
and i did find a wrist strap that works great on the LiveView, it uses 20mm standard strait end bands, i was able to get a shop to use 24mm rubber straps and trimmed the mounting points to fit 20mm so the strap looks wider and looks great with the liveview's wristband mount.
i will have pics up later on as well as u can see the wrist band on the videos when there uploaded.

Cheers look forward to it, also will want some decent alternative straps too. My watch battery just died and it'll cost as much to send off and have done professionally (otherwise will lose water resistance in a regular shop) than to buy the LiveView for now!

Hi hope you can solve a issue. I also want use my Lv connected and working with my Samsung Tab.
I hope you can help me
thanks in advance

I am also interested in the Sony Ericsson LiveView to use with my Galaxy Tab. But did not find many information about it and especially in combination with the Galaxy Tab.
I am very interested in your findings!

UPDATED FIRST POST
still uploading the videos but updated with pics of the wrist straps if anybody has questions or would like me to test something pls let me know, i still need to do more tests since its only been a day since i got it to see if this is ok for daily use.

mudstuff said:
Cheers look forward to it, also will want some decent alternative straps too. My watch battery just died and it'll cost as much to send off and have done professionally (otherwise will lose water resistance in a regular shop) than to buy the LiveView for now!
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daym, must be a expensive watch.. too bad the lv isn't water resistant =(
chihuahua said:
Hi hope you can solve a issue. I also want use my Lv connected and working with my Samsung Tab.
I hope you can help me
thanks in advance
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what issues are you having? i know there are common issues with disconnects but from my experience keeping ur memory about 50mb's seem to be working for me, i always use advance task killer and fast reboot pro with the live view and plugins exluded to keep everything in top shape, i will post up the apps im running as well as services in my daily testing.
bobvanoijen said:
I am also interested in the Sony Ericsson LiveView to use with my Galaxy Tab. But did not find many information about it and especially in combination with the Galaxy Tab.
I am very interested in your findings!
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yup thats the reason i did this, i found one but they only showed a pic of the galaxy tab with it but not actual tests along side it.

UPDATED first post with my the link to the first part of my video review!

A Sony MBW-150 Watch will also work with the Tab, one has to use a software called Openwatch that can be found on the Market.

my issues
Hi nice video (and nice home page in your TAB!!!, is it a wallapear or application?)
I have some issues with my tab as you can read in many blgs on the net.
It seems works well but avery 15-20 minutes ( refreshing time I think) it will crash!!! you can't do nothing... a tab start to vibrate... it is very, very slow.... you can't use task killer (it too slow) and you MUST restart it!!! no alternatives ways!!!
reading an blog we are waiting some patch from SE... maybe.
Mow I use a LV just like a clock!!!
Any idea? ( i will waiting your video)
jay_jay_n said:
daym, must be a expensive watch.. too bad the lv isn't water resistant =(
what issues are you having? i know there are common issues with disconnects but from my experience keeping ur memory about 50mb's seem to be working for me, i always use advance task killer and fast reboot pro with the live view and plugins exluded to keep everything in top shape, i will post up the apps im running as well as services in my daily testing.
yup thats the reason i did this, i found one but they only showed a pic of the galaxy tab with it but not actual tests along side it.
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p_hsieh said:
A Sony MBW-150 Watch will also work with the Tab, one has to use a software called Openwatch that can be found on the Market.
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yeah i'm aware of that, just didn't like the 2 line display on them as well as pretty expensive for the nicer designs.
chihuahua said:
Hi nice video (and nice home page in your TAB!!!, is it a wallapear or application?)
I have some issues with my tab as you can read in many blgs on the net.
It seems works well but avery 15-20 minutes ( refreshing time I think) it will crash!!! you can't do nothing... a tab start to vibrate... it is very, very slow.... you can't use task killer (it too slow) and you MUST restart it!!! no alternatives ways!!!
reading an blog we are waiting some patch from SE... maybe.
Mow I use a LV just like a clock!!!
Any idea? ( i will waiting your video)
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Thx, the homescreen is just launcher pro with a simple background and i just have different widgets for easy access i tend to clutter my screens a lot so i can get to things with a single press.
I really recommend to check what apps you have running in the background and see if it runs better with certain apps uninstalled or forced closed, i know there is a issue with sony ericssons part but with my recent tests i do have disconnect issues even with freed memory but not as much as when i run out of memory so when i leave it sitting alone i don't get disconnect issues for a few hours , it seems ok to me for now until i run into a time when i need to know whos calling and its disconnected and i have to pull out the tab.. i'm hoping thats not gonna happen but time will tell and further testing.. i really feel that the sony liveview app is to blame for a lot of the issues.
seriously check on the app "quick reboot" try the free version and see what happens the pro one i paid for so i could exclude the live view and its plugins from restarting, but when live view is acting up i use the free version that will restart all the apps right away.. so two icons on my screen to easily remedy the connection issues. I will still have to run tests to see if i can recreate the problems and fixes.
12-11-10
2nd part of my video of review is up on the first post =)
3rd part of my video of review is up on the first post =)

jay_jay_n said:
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Nice review, Thanks!
Can i ask you where can i buy this wrist band in Europe?

Play.com have them on today @ £39.99 inc free del.
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/17279126/Sony-Ericsson-LiveView/Product.html

Sooooo good news after having some issues here and there really not as bad as others with other android phones, I may have found a solution to fixing the reconnection issues, I rarely get disconnected, so I'm unsure if this fixes that issue, but the problematic issue I had was reconnecting from the liveview being off or when my bt was off as well as being disconnected, but I found a way and still testing to make sure its a viable solution to fixing the reconnection issues.
Ironically I waited the whole day waiting for a disconnect after trying the fix the first time and it seemed to work so just need further testing
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my issues
Great videos!!!
I think is the best review as I saw for LV... clear, dettailed and real!!!
I tried to use your suggestion to understand why my issue happend, I installed KILLER APP and I monitoring ALL apps background running; LAST problem came when was running: liveview, GMAIL, sportypal...no more apps. I can't stop just a LV apps.
Can you understand why?
jay_jay_n said:
yeah i'm aware of that, just didn't like the 2 line display on them as well as pretty expensive for the nicer designs.
Thx, the homescreen is just launcher pro with a simple background and i just have different widgets for easy access i tend to clutter my screens a lot so i can get to things with a single press.
I really recommend to check what apps you have running in the background and see if it runs better with certain apps uninstalled or forced closed, i know there is a issue with sony ericssons part but with my recent tests i do have disconnect issues even with freed memory but not as much as when i run out of memory so when i leave it sitting alone i don't get disconnect issues for a few hours , it seems ok to me for now until i run into a time when i need to know whos calling and its disconnected and i have to pull out the tab.. i'm hoping thats not gonna happen but time will tell and further testing.. i really feel that the sony liveview app is to blame for a lot of the issues.
seriously check on the app "quick reboot" try the free version and see what happens the pro one i paid for so i could exclude the live view and its plugins from restarting, but when live view is acting up i use the free version that will restart all the apps right away.. so two icons on my screen to easily remedy the connection issues. I will still have to run tests to see if i can recreate the problems and fixes.
12-11-10
2nd part of my video of review is up on the first post =)
3rd part of my video of review is up on the first post =)
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12-13-10
Sooooo good news after having some issues here and there really not as bad as others with other android phones, I may have found a solution to fixing the reconnection issues, I rarely get disconnected, so I'm unsure if this fixes that issue, but the problematic issue I had was reconnecting from the liveview being off or when my bt was off as well as being disconnected, but I found a way and still testing to make sure its a viable solution to fixing the reconnection issues.
Ironically I waited the whole day waiting for a disconnect after trying the fix the first time and it seemed to work so just need further testing
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Any progress on this issue?

sony Ericsson answer me about my issue
"Dear ,
Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson support centre.
We are sorry to hear of the issues you have experienced using your Sony Ericsson LiveView with your Galaxy Tab.
We can confirm that to our knowledge the Sony Ericsson LiveView has been fully tested with your Galaxy Tab on the Android 2.2. If either your device itself or the handset is freezing when being used we can confirm this is not functioning correctly.
If you have attempted the reset and this has not resolved the issue then we would suggest you return your product to your point of sale under theirs returns policy; as it sounds like the device is faulty.
We apologise for any confusion or inconvenience caused.
Kind Regards,
Darren Sibbald
Sony Ericsson UK Customer Services"
any idea?

Where did you find the "phone connected/disconnected" audio file?

anyone knows how to find a screen protector for live view?

[Q] Smart Saving Bug - Anyone else seeing this?

Hello, guys. I am encountering what I think is a very weird bug with Smart Saver. I'm hoping that some other people can test this on their systems and if, it's just me, I'm going to return mine for a new unit.
With Smart Saving enabled, the screen will automatically increase and decrease brightness constantly as different pages and app's come up. In my case, the screen seems to flicker almost every time I swipe and I can't stand it, so I disabled Smart Saver. The icon is OFF on the pull down status panel and it's turned off under settings. However, whenever I reboot, I still encounter the screen flickering and dimming constantly (although it seems to be to a lesser degree). If I pull down the status panel, turn Smart Saving On and then off again, the problem goes away until I reboot the system. This is at least encouraging me that maybe it's just software and I can deal with it for a month or so.
Here's what I want someone else to test for me. Turn Smart Saver off. Turn the tablet off and then on again. Pull down the status menu and carefully watch the screen. The open portion of the home screen will dim once (which is normal). On my system, after about another 1/2 second or so, the screen will flicker or dim again slightly. It does this every time, but it might be hard to notice unless you are looking for it. When side scrolling between home screens, sometimes brightness will increase slightly and other times it will decrease. Pull down status panel, turn on smart saver, turn it off again and the problem goes away.
Help, please? Mine is a US model if that makes any difference on build 10.14.1.47.
Thank you very much in advance.

Did you download the used 10.14.1.47 manually from Asus website or was it an auto update from the device itself.
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Manually from the website.

I kinda have the same problem, though on my tab it is only the auto brightness that sometimes will increase/decreased constantly. Disabling Smart Saving or auto brightness helps in my case. I only have the problem when i'm in a room where there's light but the room isn't totally bright, and the tablet is with its back to the light source.

Others can correct me if I'm wrong but the 10.14.1.47 isn't being pushed through the device itself. I'm finding most people are downloading it manually from Asus website. . My estimation, I think Asus is aware that the update has some issues, thus not force updating it through the device until they come out with the latest fix.
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You might be right about the update. Although I was thinking more people should have this issue. Maybe they aren't rebooting their tablet often enough to notice it as once I enable/disable Smart Saver, the problem goes away until I reboot. That is a satisfactory work around, but I was hoping for confirmation from at least one other person seeing the same thing in terms of returning the device. Amazon has decent return terms, so I'll probably wait until the next update and see if that fixes it. Thanks.

I'm on .47 and I have the same issue as well. I also noticed that the brightness will increase 2-3 steps every time I bring up "settings". This is regardless of auto-brightness on/off, smart saving on/off, outdoor mode on/off.

Auto-brightness is useless: Usually it's much too dark, and the auto-setting is changing with strange behaviors.... it's kinda jumping up and down as other described...

Thanks, since others are experiencing it too, at least I'm hopeful that it will be fixed in a SW update.

Did someone contact the asus-hotline?

derekk1 said:
Thanks, since others are experiencing it too, at least I'm hopeful that it will be fixed in a SW update.
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Same thing here, bought the unit in the US and also experiencing the same awkward behavior. This would actually go away when Auto Brightness is turned off.
I am also getting issues when docked. Sometimes after some time (maybe a couple of hours) as soon as I tilt the tablet to its normal position, I would find it completely off. Had to turn the device back on a couple of times now.
These are too many annoyances for such an expensive unit.
Hope they fix the Auto Brightness setting at least.

Disabling Asus Splendid app in settings -> apps seems to stop this behavior.

vBoedefeld said:
Disabling Asus Splendid app in settings -> apps seems to stop this behavior.
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I am now on 4.3 and it seems to be better (just some hours). It is not as dark as before and doesn't hop up and down every second :good:

Yezariael said:
I am now on 4.3 and it seems to be better (just some hours). It is not as dark as before and doesn't hop up and down every second :good:
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How did you do the upgrade to 4.3? Seems like it is not yet available for the US. Would you install another SKU from TW lets say, if your tablet were from the US?
I really feel like upgrading cause there are too many things not working well on 4.2.2

efgyy said:
How did you do the upgrade to 4.3? Seems like it is not yet available for the US. Would you install another SKU from TW lets say, if your tablet were from the US?
I really feel like upgrading cause there are too many things not working well on 4.2.2
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In Switzerland it was OTA :good:
Either download right version from asus.com or wait a bit, I guess it will not take long until it's rolled out everywhere...

Yezariael said:
Auto-brightness is useless: Usually it's much too dark, and the auto-setting is changing with strange behaviors.... it's kinda jumping up and down as other described...
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I totally agree. It's much too dark on auto and the constant jumping around drives me bat$#! +. For a 4th Gen, nearly $500 tablet, you'd think this sort of thing would be figured out by now.

calimocho said:
I totally agree. It's much too dark on auto and the constant jumping around drives me bat$#! +. For a 4th Gen, nearly $500 tablet, you'd think this sort of thing would be figured out by now.
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You did not read my statement about update to 4.3, no?
It's very fine now, bright and constant :good:

Yezariael said:
You did not read my statement about update to 4.3, no?
It's very fine now, bright and constant :good:
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Mine is still the same after the 4.3 update. I can see whatever algorithm it is working. For example, switch to a dark screen, wait 2 seconds, watch it darken a little more once a second for the next three seconds. Then the reverse in switching to a mostly white screen/app.
The good news is the dock doesn't seem to disconnect anymore.
Just can't decide about this thing. I want to love it as much as I loved my TF101 but I just don't (yet?)

calimocho said:
Mine is still the same after the 4.3 update. I can see whatever algorithm it is working. For example, switch to a dark screen, wait 2 seconds, watch it darken a little more once a second for the next three seconds. Then the reverse in switching to a mostly white screen/app.
The good news is the dock doesn't seem to disconnect anymore.
Just can't decide about this thing. I want to love it as much as I loved my TF101 but I just don't (yet?)
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Theirs nothing wrong with your device. It's the ambient light sensor built into the device. ..
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Theirs nothing wrong with your device. It's the ambient light sensor built into the device. ..
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Absolutely. It's just really freaking annoying.
I have it right here in a bright office with fluorescent lights, which I would think would vastly marginalize the amount of light reflected from the display itself back into its ambient light sensor. Merely dropping down the notification column causes visible shifts darker (when coming from a light background) in steps, over several seconds. (and it's in the dock on the desk, so the device isn't moving at all)
So my argument is the algorithm used to determine the backlight of the screen puts to much weight on the white balance of the screen. It's distracting and annoying. And it would be one thing if this only happened on "Auto Brightness," which it does not.

DANGER: Severe Burn-in on LCA44B

I don't know exactly what happened, but I think burn-in protection is NOT working on LCA44B. Since yesterday I've had Instaweather faces burn into my watch, and the Red face, which I've used intermittently for 9 months, has now burned into my screen in less than 12 hours of use. Screen brightness is less than 1, something is seriously messed up in the latest firmware. Anyone else experiencing this?
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Display is shifting, turns out LG is absolutely stupid, so know that THE RED WATCH FACE WILL BURN IN TO YOUR SCREEN. They added massive grey circles to the date and month icons, which burn in. Every tick mark now burns in as well. I have never experienced any issues with burn in over the 10 months I've owned it, and now it's been burned in twice in 2 days. Something is amiss with the latest update, so definitely monitor your watch for signs of burn in.
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I've been experiencing burn in even with the previous update

I've experienced burn with all my watch faces on this update, and have had issues with burn in ever since flashing the custom kernel to gain WiFI, with the issues persisting even after the burn in was fixed. Sometimes however I do notice the face moving as expected, so I am not sure what is causing the problem overall. If anybody has any ideas as to solutions to this, I'm sure a fair few people would be glad to hear them, as it isn't much fun seeing the hour icons when you're say in the settings menu.
Thanks,
x10man

I highly doubt this has something to do with the latest update.
1. I've had the red face burn into my watch before lollipop was on my watch even, just because the hour marks are too big to be properly shifted in ambient mode
2. I've observed my current watch face (FORM) and it seems to shift just normally

Do you guys happen to have Developer Options enabled? I tried enabling it today and just noticed that the option Force Burn-in Protection was disabled by default.
I don't know whether it was because of that option, the newest update, or just the fact that reading over this thread made me inspect my watch more carefully, but I now notice some burn in on my watch for the first time. It is quite apparent when the notification shade is pulled down.
My watch face also has very thin graphics and I even put a black transparent overlay on my watch face to make it even darker in ambient mode.
Edit: seems the burn-ins are only a temporary (at least for me). Left the screen off for a while and its good again.

I have developer options enabled, and enabling force protection disables again after a reboot. Burn ins are temporary for me too, but I'd still rather they didn't have them at all. I don't just experience burn in on the analogue faces such as red, I currently have a "9" burn onto my watch from 25 minutes of the "together" face and watches with very thin lines such as F04 for Round Wear also burn in, after very short periods of time. It is easy to get these to go again, however I'd prefer the burn in protection to work properly. I never had these issues on 5.0, they've only started since 5.1 for me, although I am not sure if that was 5.1 overall, or 5.1 after the custom kernel flash.
Thanks,
X10man

Forcing the burnin protection has no effect if you did not messed up the default burn-in protection files. The face will still shift no matter how the switch is being set.
If you will force the burnin protection settings file to not shift, then this switch will override that.
I have no burnin at all and I have the watch for almost a year now.

I don't have any problems with burn-in after update (or before). And I'm using Odyssey watchface red + disabled minimal ambient mode so according to everything I read here I should have huge burn-in. I have this watch over 6 months, 0 problems
this is how it looks also in ambient mode ( i have red color)
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I don't have any problems with burn-in after update (or before). And I'm using Odyssey watchface red + disabled minimal ambient mode so according to everything I read here I should have huge burn-in. I have this watch over 6 months, 0 problems
this is how it looks also in ambient mode ( i have red color)
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Are you rooted etc? I'm wondering if any of the non-stock portions of my watch are causing this. I have TWRP installed, and my bootloader unlocked. It doesn't seem to make sense that some people have it and some do not, on the same watch faces et cetera. I'm not rooted, and have the stock ROM and kernel installed.
Thanks,
X10man
EDIT: I have reflashed an entirely stock system, performed a factory reset and locked my bootloader, and I can verify my watch face is now moving. I will update further in regards to whether burn in is still an issue, or if this was a fix for me

I'm full stock, never rooted or anything and I have some burn in

x10man said:
Are you rooted etc? I'm wondering if any of the non-stock portions of my watch are causing this. I have TWRP installed, and my bootloader unlocked. It doesn't seem to make sense that some people have it and some do not, on the same watch faces et cetera. I'm not rooted, and have the stock ROM and kernel installed.
Thanks,
X10man
EDIT: I have reflashed an entirely stock system, performed a factory reset and locked my bootloader, and I can verify my watch face is now moving. I will update further in regards to whether burn in is still an issue, or if this was a fix for me
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Now I'm on stock rom, kernel and recovery, with unlocked bootloader, not rooted. I had Leedroid rom but voice recognition wasn't working that good like on stock (dunno why). Before Leedroid I was on stock without any modifications so IMO software does not affect this burn-in thing. also I'm using 6 brightness all the time + screen always on

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I'm using 6 brightness all the time
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This is the perfect recipe for a nice burn-in. Of course it all depends on the colours used and the thickness of the lines involved ... but in general, max brightness on an OLED display means burn-in and shorter life.
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again, no burn in after many months I'm still using 6 brightness + screen always on.

timon12 said:
again, no burn in after many months I'm still using 6 brightness + screen always on.
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No burn in here either, had the same face for over 4 months at 3+ brightness and always screen on.

Question Proximity sensor not working

Have had my S21 Ultra for a couple of days, now. All good, except for one thing - my proximity sensor does not seem to work. I have tried a couple of sensor test apps and they confirm that it is not working.
Have I done something really stupid with settings (always possible !) ? Or do I maybe just have a defective phone ?
Any suggestions as to what I can do to resolve this ? Don't want to have to send the phone back !
Many thanks in advance.

Sorry for the blatant bump, but keen to know if anyone has any thoughts on this. Has anyone else experienced problems with the proximity sensor on the S21 Ultra ?
Many thanks

As much of a pain as it is, return and get a new one. If it fails the tests it's dead.
Make it Samsung's problem child...

blackhawk said:
As much of a pain as it is, return and get a new one. If it fails the tests it's dead.
Make it Samsung's problem child...
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Thanks, @blackhawk - sadly I think that you might be right about that. Was just hoping that someone in the fabulous community might have a brilliant solution !

wilsojer said:
Thanks, @blackhawk - sadly I think that you might be right about that. Was just hoping that someone in the fabulous community might have a brilliant solution !
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You're welcome. Someone here very well may have a fix but it should have been right leaving the factory.
At least it's an obvious constant issue. Intermittents ones are the stuff nightmares are made of

Are you sure it has a proximity sensor? I dont see it in the specs on GSM arena. Also I installed CPUZ and looked at the sensors tab and it doesn't show any value for proximity sensor. I dont think the S21 ultra comes with a proximity sensor. There's only a camera on the front rest all of it is screen right?

eldrid said:
Are you sure it has a proximity sensor? I dont see it in the specs on GSM arena. Also I installed CPUZ and looked at the sensors tab and it doesn't show any value for proximity sensor.
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It does. Not sure where but it needs that input to function properly.
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I don't recommend a factory reset unless you did a firmware update. Find to root cause otherwise it will likely reoccur.
Check all relevant settings and disable all power management.
Clear system cache on the boot menu.
Try a hard reboot (not reset).
Try in Safe mode.
It may be purely hardware... especially if it did this out of the box.

blackhawk said:
It does. Not sure where but it needs that input to function properly.
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I don't recommend a factory reset unless you did a firmware update. Find to root cause otherwise it will likely reoccur.
Check all relevant settings and disable all power management.
Clear system cache on the boot menu.
Try a hard reboot (not reset).
Try in Safe mode.
It may be purely hardware... especially if it did this out of the box.
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Thanks (again) @blackhawk. Yes, I do believe that it has a proximity sensor. According to GSMarena:
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I will try each of your suggestions and see if I can get this working. Not sure if it did this straight out of the box as I didn't test it. I updated the software after the initial set-up as it told me that I needed to do the software update. Wonder whether that caused it.
Will try the different tests and will report back !

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Thanks (again) @blackhawk. Yes, I do believe that it has a proximity sensor. According to GSMarena:
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I will try each of your suggestions and see if I can get this working. Not sure if it did this straight out of the box as I didn't test it. I updated the software after the initial set-up as it told me that I needed to do the software update. Wonder whether that caused it.
Will try the different tests and will report back !
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Yeah it does. My bad, looks like I missed it. I also did a test call and the screen does switch off when i hold it against my ear. So most likely a defective unit.

wilsojer said:
Have had my S21 Ultra for a couple of days, now. All good, except for one thing - my proximity sensor does not seem to work. I have tried a couple of sensor test apps and they confirm that it is not working.
Have I done something really stupid with settings (always possible !) ? Or do I maybe just have a defective phone ?
Any suggestions as to what I can do to resolve this ? Don't want to have to send the phone back !
Many thanks in advance.
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Test apps apart, if the phone call screen doesn't turn off when you put the phone to your ear, then there's definitely a problem. Especially that there's no special setting which can completely block the proximity sensor.
If you suspect a misconfiguration, then a factory reset can probably help.

DaReDeViL said:
Test apps apart, if the phone call screen doesn't turn off when you put the phone to your ear, then there's definitely a problem. Especially that there's no special setting which can completely block the proximity sensor.
If you suspect a misconfiguration, then a factory reset can probably help.
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The clock on a clean return is ticking. If a factory reset clears it but it returns after 10 days the return option is gone. Be stuck right where he started with less options.
It could be something added after unboxed or not... tough call.
File corruption can indicate a bigger issue maybe a bad flash or hardware. I find it troubling that's it's on a completely hidden basic function.
I would error heavily on the side of caution.
Aside from a boot loop (2x) I never -needed*- a factory reset to solve any Android issue.
Most techs go with the reset nuke option because it's easiest fix for them not you. The root cause is still there waiting to be triggered again... been there, done that.
*excluding the been there thing (that 10+ was returned but the replacement did the same thing; it was a settings glitch), one reload due to possible virus infection and OS refreshes for heavy abused loads.

Hello
I dial *#0*# and under widget sensor it doesent even says proximity sensor.
Can somebody check if they have the same?

Sorry for not getting back earlier - yesterday was a tough day at work !
@Tine21 - I agree that it doesn't reference a Proximity Sensor, but everything that I am reading online is that the S21 Ultra definitely has one.
I eventually got in touch with EE and asked for a replacement. Have to say, they were excellent and I had a courier the next day arrive, pick up my old handset and deliver me a brand new one. Having tested this out, it definitely shots off the screen when I am on the phone and I put the phone to my ear, so there absolutely has to be a Proximity Sensor and, with the new handset, this is working fine.
Sadly, I can't get the "wave to phone to wake screen" functionality working, but that is a minor issue. Also, bizarrely, the sensor test apps that I am trying do not pick up any movement on the sensor at all. No idea whether this is the fault of the apps or what, but seems a little odd.
The main thing is that the screen goes off when I pick up a call and put the phone to my ear, so that is good enough for me right now. Might look into the "wave" functionality later.
Many thanks to @blackhawk and all the others for help and advice - this is why we all love XDA forums so much !

@wilsojer Great that you fixed your problem
I was reading a lot about it and apparently, with these new infinity O screens, a lot of people have problems with proximity sensor
I think that screen ON/OFF function during calls works with front camera, gyroscop and touchscreen like on samsung 20FE
That is why you dont get any response from sensor app, but this is only my opinion

I am afraid, there is no Proximity Sensor in the s21*. The phone detects the "answering call to the ear" gesture by using 3D accelerometer(s). Try to answer the call while laying down on the sofa or slow moving the phone to the ear - the screen will remain active and your ear will press everything on the touchscreen..
Hope I am wrong.

@78apb What you say would make sense as to why I can't get any of the sensor apps to recognise it, but if you go to Samsung's own website (https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-s21-ultra-5g/specs/) and go about 2/3's of the way down the page to the "Sensors and Buttons" section, it definitely states that it has a Proximity Sensor.

@wilsojer then it should be in *#0*# menu, but it doesnt...

@78apb - yes, I quite agree. Think I might try and take this up with Samsung direct - and, no, I won't be holding my breath for a reply ;-)

78apb said:
I am afraid, there is no Proximity Sensor in the s21*. The phone detects the "answering call to the ear" gesture by using 3D accelerometer(s). Try to answer the call while laying down on the sofa or slow moving the phone to the ear - the screen will remain active and your ear will press everything on the touchscreen..
Hope I am wrong.
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I think you are right I dont see the proximity sensor at all and if i put my hand covering the whole upper screen it still doesnt turn off the screen, so i think it depends also on acceloremeter and gyrometer

I found something that maybe will help us. If you dial *#77692# you will go directly in to the proximity sensor menu and you will see that it is turn OFF. You can turn it ON and it is working but in a few second will go OFF again and i dont know why. But at least we know it is there and it is working.

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Wow.... Finally the update for multi-tasking

what does the update ade for multi tasking? And can you finally use custom icons on default launcher? I'm on x fold 2 and haven't gotten anything like that...

Unfortunately, the update is not yet displayed for me

It's currently out for me. If it isn't out yet, reboot your device and try again.
That being said the software experience is really REALLY similar to the vivo x fold 2. Just as snippy and I've been waiting on the implementation of the dock for a year.
For those with the original vivo x fold, there may not be a huge reason to upgrade given these fresh quality of life upgrades. Especially if you have a vivo x fold with a boot loader unlocked (or if you joined the developer beta/public beta in winter last year). I wish this came out last year like the Samsung ones but I can't really complain.

I still find it a pity that WhatsApp notifications are not displayed on the lock screen/always on screen

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I still find it a pity that WhatsApp notifications are not displayed on the lock screen/always on screen
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I can see them with the app AOA: Always on display

I used that app, AOA, a few days ago and it worked great and then the next day never came back on. No matter what I did, even reboot the phone, it never appeared again. I turned the app off and on, I even locked it to the home screen so it didn't get shut down and nothing. Any ideas?

I tried the update. Like it. Only Battery seems to take a hit. Maybe it needs time.....

Cloverfield_33 said:
I used that app, AOA, a few days ago and it worked great and then the next day never came back on. No matter what I did, even reboot the phone, it never appeared again. I turned the app off and on, I even locked it to the home screen so it didn't get shut down and nothing. Any ideas?
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Exactly the same issue for me with AOA. Never shows up even though I pinned it, set auto start, and battery mgmt to max. I also turned off Vivo's always on display, and all I see the fingerprint scanner image.

gkarkala said:
Exactly the same issue for me with AOA. Never shows up even though I pinned it, set auto start, and battery mgmt to max. I also turned off Vivo's always on display, and all I see the fingerprint scanner image.
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I managed to get it working again today by turning off the custom time (I had it turn off 10pm to 5am). I ticked the ALWAYS ON box and now it's working again. For now...

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I managed to get it working again today by turning off the custom time (I had it turn off 10pm to 5am). I ticked the ALWAYS ON box and now it's working again. For now...
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Did not work. I never setup custom time, and just verified. Do you still see the fingerprint icon?

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Did not work. I never setup custom time, and just verified. Do you still see the fingerprint icon?
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No but even when I had the finger print button on on AOA, it didn't do anything, it was just there for show.

Cloverfield_33 said:
No but even when I had the finger print button on on AOA, it didn't do anything, it was just there for show.
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okay. then somehow Vivo is killing the AOA process when I turn off the display.

gkarkala said:
okay. then somehow Vivo is killing the AOA process when I turn off the display.
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I was stumped too. Was just about to delete it till I tried my fix. The stock aod is nice however can't get notifications for anything but phone and messages and the battery percentage is too small to see properly. I like the upside down purple triangle effect though and will go back to that if AOA fails again.

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I was stumped too. Was just about to delete it till I tried my fix. The stock aod is nice however can't get notifications for anything but phone and messages and the battery percentage is too small to see properly. I like the upside down purple triangle effect though and will go back to that if AOA fails again.
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Agree. Vivo's software philosophy is strange: no matter whether it is focused on Chinese or global users. Some of the restrictions does not even make sense even for the Chinese market.
But, damn the hardware is excellent! I am so sick of the narrow screen of Samsung Fold, I am tolerating the UX issues of Vivo. I also got Oppo Find N2, but that software is worse than Vivo.

gkarkala said:
Agree. Vivo's software philosophy is strange: no matter whether it is focused on Chinese or global users. Some of the restrictions does not even make sense even for the Chinese market.
But, damn the hardware is excellent! I am so sick of the narrow screen of Samsung Fold, I am tolerating the UX issues of Vivo. I also got Oppo Find N2, but that software is worse than Vivo.
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Agreed. I was with Samsung since 2016 before this phone and my lost phone was the z fold 2 which was an amazing phone don't get me wrong but that narrow outside screen annoyed me more and more as the years went on. The fold 5 is going to he just as poor and the pixel fold will be too short and have problems of its own, plus just as expensive. Vivo was a no brainier, hundreds cheaper, amazing inside and outside screen, ridiculous battery life and charging speed, 1800 nits brightness plus much more. The software is definitely a learning curve and like you said, some things don't make sense at all. I'm struggling with notifications and I still, no matter what I do, can't get floating notifications for WhatsApp when I'm using the phone. If phone is on standby I get the message preview on lock screen, dark mode or not but when using the phone all I get is the icon at top left. I have every setting to allow notifications, I'm so stumped. Weirdly I'll get the message preview if I already have a WhatsApp message unread and then someone else sends, me a message. I get a line from each new message then. Very frustrating.

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Agreed. I was with Samsung since 2016 before this phone and my lost phone was the z fold 2 which was an amazing phone don't get me wrong but that narrow outside screen annoyed me more and more as the years went on. The fold 5 is going to he just as poor and the pixel fold will be too short and have problems of its own, plus just as expensive. Vivo was a no brainier, hundreds cheaper, amazing inside and outside screen, ridiculous battery life and charging speed, 1800 nits brightness plus much more. The software is definitely a learning curve and like you said, some things don't make sense at all. I'm struggling with notifications and I still, no matter what I do, can't get floating notifications for WhatsApp when I'm using the phone. If phone is on standby I get the message preview on lock screen, dark mode or not but when using the phone all I get is the icon at top left. I have every setting to allow notifications, I'm so stumped. Weirdly I'll get the message preview if I already have a WhatsApp message unread and then someone else sends, me a message. I get a line from each new message then. Very frustrating.
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Exactly the same issue for me for Whatsapp messages. No floating message notifications.

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Exactly the same issue for me for Whatsapp messages. No floating message notifications.
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OK so it's not just me. It's so weird isn't it. Hopefully it's something that can be fixed soon.

Google messages notifications works in dark mode now