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[Q] Xposed not surviving hard boot.

I've seen this topic mentioned in the forum but I have yet to find an answer that works. Maybe there isn't one, but here goes...
I have a Droid Maxx that shipped with 4.4.2. I rooted it with the PIE Exploit and everything went as expected. I set SuperSU to survival mode, and took the 4.4.4 OTA. This did not seem to kill root access, so again, all was well. Then, I installed Xposed and rebooted...fine. Installed some modules, configured them, rebooted..."Xposed is not active." So, I updated the framework and soft rebooted...everything works. However, if I hard reboot at any time, I get the "latest version is not active" error in Xposed. The only thing that fixes it is to update and soft reboot.
Mind you, root access is surviving these hard reboots. I check with SuperSU, Terminal and Root Checker each time just to be sure, and root is not failing. So what the heck is the issue with Xposed? Every time I see this topic brought up, the only advice is to update Xposed or to make sure you have root. Check and Check. Unless I'm missing something, it seems like root is permanent since it survives reboot. I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling everything one at a time, denying/granting root access to Xposed, etc. but nothing fixes the problem.
Is there a solution to this that I'm not seeing, or is this actually an unfixable bug?

Having Some Trouble. Lost my Root Access, Can't Seem to get it back

Hello,
I'm having issues with my new tablet. I followed the instructions outlined here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/wip-achieving-root-thread-t3238152
And achieved root. All was well, but about 24 hours later, my tablet decided to restart, and when it rebooted, I no longer seemed to have root access. I then confirmed this with a root checker app. I still had the Google Play store, and the SuperSU app however. I checked using a file explorer and I still have an su file under /system/xbin.
I tried a reboot using the same method as above, but it seems to be failing because the files already exist. I tried uninstalling the SuperSU app using the full unroot option inside the app, but it simply says 'uninstalling, please wait' for a few seconds and then goes back to the home screen, SuperSU still there. I then attempted to restore to factory defaults, but alas the app remains and I am still unable to reboot (as well as losing all my data sadly). I am getting a drop down notification telling me that 'the SU binary needs to be updated' but that installation fails as well.
I'm unsure how to proceed trying to reroot my device, and feel stuck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, I'm not sure what caused the device to restart and me to lose my root in the first place. From what I've read trying to figure this out, an OTA update may of caused me to lose my root, so I'm also wondering if there's anyway to prevent this from happening again if I can regain root.
Thanks

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Dmriskus said:
Hello,
I'm having issues with my new tablet. I followed the instructions outlined here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/wip-achieving-root-thread-t3238152
And achieved root. All was well, but about 24 hours later, my tablet decided to restart, and when it rebooted, I no longer seemed to have root access. I then confirmed this with a root checker app. I still had the Google Play store, and the SuperSU app however. I checked using a file explorer and I still have an su file under /system/xbin.
I tried a reboot using the same method as above, but it seems to be failing because the files already exist. I tried uninstalling the SuperSU app using the full unroot option inside the app, but it simply says 'uninstalling, please wait' for a few seconds and then goes back to the home screen, SuperSU still there. I then attempted to restore to factory defaults, but alas the app remains and I am still unable to reboot (as well as losing all my data sadly). I am getting a drop down notification telling me that 'the SU binary needs to be updated' but that installation fails as well.
I'm unsure how to proceed trying to reroot my device, and feel stuck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, I'm not sure what caused the device to restart and me to lose my root in the first place. From what I've read trying to figure this out, an OTA update may of caused me to lose my root, so I'm also wondering if there's anyway to prevent this from happening again if I can regain root.
Thanks
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1. Disable updates, link one post up
2. Root in TWRP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/twrp-recovery-t3242548

N910T acting crazy after root

So after getting my replacement N910T, I rooted it using the method here, and it seemed to go well, but during the process of reinstalling apps, I noticed some erratic behavior like the device not allowing root access when root checker says it is rooted. Or SuperSu not asking for SU access on apps that normally do, thereby denying root access, like Root Explorer. When I go back and check root checker again, sometimes it shows that it has access and other times it says that it doesn't. For a device with a supposedly unlocked bootloader, I've never encountered so many issues. My AT&T S4 which has a locked BL never gave me any issues once it was rooted. With all the devices I've rooted over the years, I've never had this much trouble. So I'm wondering if it's corrupted somehow? Or is there something about this systemless root that is the issue?
Here are the basics:
Android 5.1.1
Baseband OK2
Kernel Version 3.10.40-6209177
Build Number LMY47X.N910TUVU2DOK2
I've read threads until I'm crosseyed and googled but couldn't really come up with anything, so I could use some help here.

I had the same problem with a Note 4 Tmo I am working with. What SuperSU version are you using?
I had root issue problems (root chk says rooted, issues in ES File Expl, etc) when I used anything higher than 2.65.
Try flashing SuperSU 2.65 stable through recovery (I use TWRP 2.8.?.?) and when exiting out of recovery DO NOT allow SuperSU to be installed as SuperSU installation says...

Thanks much for the response. I'm using SuperSu 2.71; I didn't choose this version, it came with the root I got from here. So where do I find this version you're referring to?
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Hi have you figured out your issue yet. If not, Try using supersu 2.52. It's the last full system root I believe. I have had much better luck with full system than systemless.

noob4598 said:
Hi have you figured out your issue yet. If not, Try using supersu 2.52. It's the last full system root I believe. I have had much better luck with full system than systemless.
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I haven't tried anything else yet, I giving my head some time to clear. I've been at this for hours now, so I need a rest. Can I find that version of SuperSu as a flash able zip?

I used the links from Chainfire's thread on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Download to stable 2.65 is in that thread points to this link:
https://download.chainfire.eu/921/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.65-20151226141550.zip

https://download.chainfire.eu/743/supersu this is link to 2.52 zip if u need it

Thanks for all the help, I'm glad this happened to someone other than me. One thing though: I'm on OK2, I thought you couldn't have system root with that.
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Okay, the installation of supersu 2.52 via TWRP has definitely made a difference! The device is noticeably stabler now. One last thing, though: root checker shows it's rooted, but says that a superuser app isn't installed, which is what I thought supersu was. So now what?

Did you flash over 2.71. And do you have a su app icon on your scrren.

noob4598 said:
Did you flash over 2.71. And do you have a su app icon on your scrren.
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Yes, I just flashed it from TWRP without doing anything else. And no, there isn't a Su app icon on the screen. I have a nandroid backup that'll put it back to the way it was before I did that, just in case it crashed and burned.

Download the app from playstore and then go to settings and do a full unroot. Then reboot to recovery and flash 2.52 then wipe cache and dalviche and reboot

MUCH BETTER!!! I'm in the process of reinstalling all of my apps; I don't want to take a chance of restoring my backup from Titanium, just in case there's something that won't play right.
I'll report back in a day or so.
Thanks to everyone who provided answers, it is most appreciated!

Welcome bud.

Thank you for the information guys. I was having the same issue as OP. Reverted SU as described and everything is much smoother

Yes, it's been a few days and my device is working the way it is supposed to. Interestingly enough, my SuperSU has automatically updated to version 2.65 but it's still working fine.
I've since turned off automatic updates in Google Play for fear of getting a version that begins the cycle all over again.
I still have the issue with the device telling me that the recovery is not seandroid enforcing even though I've updated to TWRP 3.0, and the set warranty bit: kernel issue. In spite of these, my device seems to work just fine with no issues.
Thanks again to everyone who offered help. It's nice when people offer help instead of posting just to tell you to find the answer yourself.
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Your welcome. And I get kernel is not seandroid enforcing on every reboot. Thought it was normal ha

My research on this has taken me all over the place, but none of the suggestions or explanations seem to apply. The device isn't ostensibly crippled, so I don't know.
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I think it's normal...maybe...ha Im pretty sure it's the warranty bit

are there root for N910A 5.1.1

Lost root access after a week, possibly by entering "smart manager"

I got a note 5 SM-N920W8 Telus last week. First thing i did was to upgrade to marshmallow, and then root it. I rooted it fine, wiping the phone in the process of installing the custom recovery. Now i've used plenty of apps that require root, and all have worked fine. About 15 minutes ago I try to go in "Ad away" to disable it temporarily to check if firefox was gonna to react faster on loading pages (it seemed so fast last week, but sluggish lately) only to find out Ad away is complaining I dont have root access anymore. So I go and check in SU , and sure enough, he also complains I don't have root. Marshmallow 6.0.1
Who deleted my root?
The only thing different I recall doing on my phone recently, and could coincide with me not noticing it between 2 apps that need root, was that in the settings, I went into "Smart manager". In there, I was curious to see what this "Device Security" (deactivated) could hold.
Anyone else has had their root removed? Or is there anything else I should look out for , background process or something , that targets my root? I just reflashed it, and it works fine again, but that just never happened to me before..

I have the same problem?? Did you get any answer from any body? Do I have to re root again?

Just flash super su in recovery. Same thing happened to me and i don't know what is the cause of the problem

Roamin64 said:
I got a note 5 SM-N920W8 Telus last week. First thing i did was to upgrade to marshmallow, and then root it. I rooted it fine, wiping the phone in the process of installing the custom recovery. Now i've used plenty of apps that require root, and all have worked fine. About 15 minutes ago I try to go in "Ad away" to disable it temporarily to check if firefox was gonna to react faster on loading pages (it seemed so fast last week, but sluggish lately) only to find out Ad away is complaining I dont have root access anymore. So I go and check in SU , and sure enough, he also complains I don't have root. Marshmallow 6.0.1
Who deleted my root?
The only thing different I recall doing on my phone recently, and could coincide with me not noticing it between 2 apps that need root, was that in the settings, I went into "Smart manager". In there, I was curious to see what this "Device Security" (deactivated) could hold.
Anyone else has had their root removed? Or is there anything else I should look out for , background process or something , that targets my root? I just reflashed it, and it works fine again, but that just never happened to me before..
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Im having similar issues. 6.0.1 on my tmo note 5 rooted perfectly using Max Lee's method. However as soon as I rooted and transfered all my data back I did a nandroid backup. Happen to wipe my phone the other night and and restored the nandroid backup and as soon as it restored I lost root. Happens everytime I restore even a newer nandroid in twrp. Never had this happen on any root method on any note.

WTF..
It's happened again this morning.. Root dissapeared by itself. The only recent thing I can think I did , was buying a game (The cave) from play store last night.
Any way to identify what is removing SU ?

Flash SuperSU 2.74 and delete 'SecurityLogAgent'

I also lost root
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 on the Sprint Network. I just now noticed that my applications that require root access, including Titanium Backup are reporting that my device is no longer rooted. Weird. This has never happened in the past when I had rooted Samsung phones. I will re-flash the Super User file as instructed in this thread and see if that resolves the issue.
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Per your insstuctions, I reflashed SuperSU 2.74 using TWRP. Then once my Note 5 rebooted, I launched Titanium Backup and found "SecurityLogAgent" and uninstalled it. However, in order for me to access TWRP I have to reinstall it using ODIN and immediately after I get the green "PASS" light in ODIN I have to quickly do the 'three finger' button press to launch TWRP. Weird....
Anyway, so far so good.
Thank you.
Battlehero said:
Flash SuperSU 2.74 and delete 'SecurityLogAgent'
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Has a permanent solution been found? I am suffering the same inexplicable loss of root. International N910F on stock.

Bosbouer said:
Has a permanent solution been found? I am suffering the same inexplicable loss of root. International N910F on stock.
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Yes, follow Battlehero's instructions (post #6) worked fine for me.

Roamin64 said:
Yes, follow Battlehero's instructions (post #6) worked fine for me.
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Thanks that worked to a certain extent. Titanium requesting root privileges for backup would still pop up as failed. Checking root would show as unrooted. The Superuser app was updated on the 5th of July 2016. Since I applied that update, i have not lost root on any of my devices.

Understanding root loss, samsung security updates, and SuperSU 2.65 vs 2.74

I recently used the "New Root Method For 5.1.1 w/o custom kernel" to root my otherwise stock Note4 SM-N910T.
Everything was fine, but after a few weeks I lost root. I was able to get it back by re-flashing SuperSU 2.65 from recovery.
After further research, I found the blog post by Chainfire on SuperSU 2.74, and understand that 2.74 addresses the Samsung security update.
I've been using "SuperSU 2.65 Stable" because of root access compatibility issues with some programs.
How do I know if the Security Policy update was the cause of losing root? My phone's About Device has "Android Security Patch level" as 2015-11-01. So it doesn't look like something that was updated in the last week.
If it was not the security policy, then what caused the loss of root?
I have automatic updates off, and did not update anything at the time I lost root. Is there any other way that an update or change can be pushed? My /data/security/spota folder is empty. Should I delete the empty folder just to be sure?

I guess because you upgraded the system root cause failure，you need to flash supersu.zip again ，can retrieve root

Supersuer said:
I guess because you upgraded the system root cause failure，you need to flash supersu.zip again ，can retrieve root
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Here's a summary of the problem:
1) FlashSuperSU from recovery.
2) Enjoy Root
3) 1 to 3 weeks later - something disables SuperSU, and root is lost
4) Go to 1)
I want to understand what is happening in 3) so I can exit this annoying loop.

timg11 said:
Here's a summary of the problem:
1) FlashSuperSU from recovery.
2) Enjoy Root
3) 1 to 3 weeks later - something disables SuperSU, and root is lost
4) Go to 1)
I want to understand what is happening in 3) so I can exit this annoying loop.
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This has only happened once? Interestingly, I had the same exact issue happen to me on my S5 with MM, I rooted using chainfire and just out of the blue, all root privelages were dismissed. So I flashed SuperSU v2.65. It happened multiple occasions until I was able to switch to an AOSP ROM. After going completely custom it seemed to have stop doing this. Maybe because of a contrast of coding that differ in security.
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It has happened twice. I'm working on a Tasker recipe that will check for root regularly and report when it is lost.

Now it has happened three times. Still trying to figure out what causes it. I have not found a tasker function that checks for root.
Unless I can find a solution, I guess I'll have to go back to the traditional root with beastmode kernel.

timg11 said:
Now it has happened three times. Still trying to figure out what causes it. I have not found a tasker function that checks for root.
Unless I can find a solution, I guess I'll have to go back to the traditional root with beastmode kernel.
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Nobody seems to have any idea what's going on. I'm guessing the loss of root was specific to SuperSU 2.65.
Here what I've tried today:
1) Recovery / Flash with SuperSU 2.65 to get root back.
2) Update SuperSU Pro to 2.76 from Google Store. Download and copy ZIP to phone storage just in case.
3) reboot and verify root still available from Titanium Backup
4) Uninstall ES File Explorer Pro. Install Solid Explorer
5) Test root access of Solid Explorer. It works. Buy Solid Explorer.
6) reboot again just to be sure root remains
7) Backup with TB.
So far, everything is working. Hopefully it will remain rooted.

Almost 3 weeks, and no loss of root. Super SU 2.76 seems to fix the problem.

J500G lost root minutes after connected to internet. I have to root every single day.