We'll currently I'm in the market to buy a phone I really want the note 3, plus I can afford it :/ wish I could afford note 4 but oh well, have more important stuff to buy, anyways if I bought a note 3 from AT&T would it come with 4.3 an I can root ? Or update to where I want like 4.4.2 an root? Or will the AT&T have to phone updated to latest 4.4.4? If it came with 4.4.4 could I root or would that matter on what kernal it's on?
I'm new to android world an wanting to learn been doin a lot research on note 3 but there not much info about 4.4.4 with a root for AT&T/ Verizon models, mostly every thing is 4.3 or 4.4.2 or other models (Such as T-mobile, Sprint, International models), but also what r the chances for a future root? Maybe 6month from now or a root with lollipop 5.0? Is it likely or not so much cause don't seem like no dev. Is working on 4.4.4 root for AT&T/ Verizon Model cause we know the bootloader is locked
With all that said would you still recommend Samsung Galaxy Note 3 or should I buy a different phone? Like iPhone 5S something within these two devices price range? :/
Anyways please message your thought or what do you think the best idea is?
all good
The Note 3 is so good anyway it ships I believe you will be very happy as is. I would root what ever you get and then put 5.0 on when it is out.
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I have a Samsung galaxy S6 from Att and its completely stock. I hate all the crap they have pre loaded on it and I do not really like samsungs interface, I am looking for stock android experience.
I heard rumor that the latest samsung update was not rootable is this true? If not whats the best way to root this phone, and any rom suggestions?
searayman said:
I have a Samsung galaxy S6 from Att and its completely stock. I hate all the crap they have pre loaded on it and I do not really like samsungs interface, I am looking for stock android experience.
I heard rumor that the latest samsung update was not rootable is this true? If not whats the best way to root this phone, and any rom suggestions?
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No root for this build yet. No recent discussion on aosp development that I've seen for S6, but since it's exynos, it will likely be long in the future, and may never be stable if it happens.
If you want stock experience and root, you're probably better off getting rid of the ATT branded device with locked bootloader. At least get an unlocked S6 - or if non-samsung interface is really important, go nexus.
I'm thinking about jumping ship for the new Moto x, but it's really bigger than I want, so gotta handle one first before I commit.
There might be a clean, black pearl 128GB rooted ATT branded S6 on swappa soon...
Hi Everyone,
My old nexus 6 has to replaced with a new phone.
I really love the screen of the nexus 6 but it's time to move on!
So i thought of the S8 of S8+.
But what is the beter size compared with the nexus 6?
let me know, one love
If you want to deal with Knox and Touchwiz, the S8+ should be adequate. It reportedly has a 6.2" screen, but I haven't seen any hands-on reviews to confirm that.
How anyone can switch from a glorious unlocked bootloader phone to bloatwiz I don't understand. The best phone options right now are basically the One Plus 3T (if you don't have a CDMA carrier) or the Pixel / Pixel XL. I'd imagine in a couple months there will be a lot of new phone choices with the Snapdragon 835 so it might be best to wait. If you've never factory reset your Nexus 6, or flashed a ROM/kernel do that and you will see a breath of fresh air using the device. I just did a data format in TWRP (completely nukes everything on the phone), transferred over a ROM and did a clean flash. Even in 2017 Nexus 6 still holds its own and performs pretty well.
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How anyone can switch from a glorious unlocked bootloader phone to bloatwiz I don't understand. The best phone options right now are basically the One Plus 3T (if you don't have a CDMA carrier) or the Pixel / Pixel XL. I'd imagine in a couple months there will be a lot of new phone choices with the Snapdragon 835 so it might be best to wait. If you've never factory reset your Nexus 6, or flashed a ROM/kernel do that and you will see a breath of fresh air using the device. I just did a data format in TWRP (completely nukes everything on the phone), transferred over a ROM and did a clean flash. Even in 2017 Nexus 6 still holds its own and performs pretty well.
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Hi, thanks for your advice.
before the nexus i had a s3 unlocked with costum rom.
i wanna unlock the s8 and install a debloated rom, if possible
i thought this phone wil get a great community and a lot of developers creating roms.
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Hi, thanks for your advice.
before the nexus i had a s3 unlocked with costum rom.
i wanna unlock the s8 and install a debloated rom, if possible
i thought this phone wil get a great community and a lot of developers creating roms.
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All Samung phones in the U.S. come with locked bootloader. International versions are unlockable I think. Even then, it's easy to get stock based ROMs but hard getting AOSP to work on them.
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All Samung phones in the U.S. come with locked bootloader. International versions are unlockable I think. Even then, it's easy to get stock based ROMs but hard getting AOSP to work on them.
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European variant is locked and can't be unlocked either.
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European variant is locked and can't be unlocked either.
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European version has an unlocked bootloader. They always do just like European S6 and S7.
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European version has an unlocked bootloader. They always do just like European S6 and S7.
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Oh well... Guess I've been away from Samsung for too long..!
Sorry for my ignorance... :angel:
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Oh well... Guess I've been away from Samsung for too long..!
Sorry for my ignorance... :angel:
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No need to apologise as I would not dismiss a locked bootloader on a future Samsung device in Europe.
I'm currently using a nexus 6p on verizon and its getting long in the tooth. I want to buy an unlocked note8 directly from samsung or bestbuy, but not sure what I would give up vs buying one from verizon. Would I just pop a sim in, have them register my new imei and off I go?
I saw a mega thread thats like 50+ pages deep in the howto section about flashing between carriers, would I need to flash a certain file to the phone to get it to work properly on verizon? The unlocked seems to support all the bands. I just want the flexibility to use whatever carrier, so if I decide to switch my note over to TMO or cricket I won't have any concerns. Also might not get a note, but it looks nice, has newer software, was more recently released.
How is samsung with releasing OS updates? Would it be reasonable to expect android 8 on the note 8?
I consider myself an optimist and I want to stay positive. Honestly the main reason I opted for the Galaxy S10 was due to root support and phone development vs LG G series. I really am loving the performance of my phone. I've been rooting since the 1st Galaxy came out with help from this forum. I just hate to give up hope because there had always been some brilliant mind or mind(s) to crack through the barriers.
Just sucks all the other versions get to enjoy making their phone a little more fabulous than my US Sprint version ?
Thanks!
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I consider myself an optimist and I want to stay positive. Honestly the main reason I opted for the Galaxy S10 was due to root support and phone development vs LG G series. I really am loving the performance of my phone. I've been rooting since the 1st Galaxy came out with help from this forum. I just hate to give up hope because there had always been some brilliant mind or mind(s) to crack through the barriers.
Just sucks all the other versions get to enjoy making their phone a little more fabulous than my US Sprint version ?
Thanks!
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It's been a given fact that the US Snapdragon wont get root and it's been a well known fact for quite a while now. You should have opted for another model if you wanted root.
Well some of that was also dependent on those engineering kernels that got leaked on the last two models the Galaxy 8 & 9. Some devs were able to build off of that.
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It's been a given fact that the US Snapdragon wont get root and it's been a well known fact for quite a while now. You should have opted for another model if you wanted root.
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True. I will say I haven't had a Galaxy since S6 but I would always see support for Galaxy. I wasn't interested in the S9 as much so I wasn't aware of how restricted it had become. Over the years I've had Motorola X play, LG series and Axon. As I said I assumed someone would break they the barrier. I remember the 1st root breaking through Knox or finding a work around. Then the bounty collected to root other versions as they became more difficult. It's just weird how US would be so dogmatically restrictive. But it's not an end all for me. I love my phone and how it doesn't lag even with 20 apps open.
P personally don't think root is needed too much on the S10
Was there any hope in the first place?
North American Samsung are known to be locked, only a fool would waste time finding way to root it when 99% of the world use a different version that is already possible to root.
I came from S7 exynos rooted with Magisk, and was very reluctant to swtich out, but I needed modern radio so I took the leap with the S10e. Got the 256GB U1 version, flashed with Tmo U firmware, and I'm 99% set. Giving certain permissions via ADB to MacroDroid and other apps is so far enough (e. g. set lock timeout to forever when on home WiFi, effectively doing the same as some rooted solution, etc.)
The 1% that I still really wish I could have? Titanium Backup. Migrating phone with TiBu is so much easier, and it's more reliable too. I wish Android allows more flexibility to power users on this (Google or Samsung backup is still not good enough).
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P personally don't think root is needed too much on the S10
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It's not, but some people think they have to have it.
Just in case, what's people suggestion?
In case we still able to return the phone, should we do it?
Does it seems some option for Snapdragon version in future, or better to give up and stockpile a return to the company?
For me, unlocked bootloader is a must, in order to remove crapware (like Bixby), remove Google, or just to get future support after Samsung declares it an "outdated device"
Suggestions?
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P personally don't think root is needed too much on the S10
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Swift support and REAL call recording is still needed by many users, including me. Sucks that they both now need root. I wish I could use Oreo on this S10, lol!
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Just sucks all the other versions get to enjoy making their phone a little more fabulous than my US Sprint version
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I feel you dude, sucks that North Americans can't enjoy the same freedoms on the S10 compared to literally anywhere else. Doesn't make sense. I've always assumed that it was the US variants that can be easily unlocked? Perhaps because it uses the snapdragon chip, which I assumed was more easy to 'manipulate' than on Exynos chips?
The U.S. S10 Sprint 5G version can be rooted. The U.S. S9's just got root not too long ago. As for the other U.S. variants of the S10, root will probably never come to fruition.
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The U.S. S10 Sprint 5G version can be rooted. The U.S. S9's just got root not too long ago. As for the other U.S. variants of the S10, root will probably never come to fruition.
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That's why I ended up getting a exynos verison for cricket lol
Always research if a device has root before buying it. Also if you want them to stop locking the bootloaders for the US variants start buying international exynos models so you can have root and maybe they will notice not as many US units selling due to locked bootloaders and will stop locking them, I doubt it but you never know.
Hey all sorry for the newbness, I'm kinda totally new to android modding. I've been running a G800A for years now and love it to death, but it's just become a bit too outdated and limiting in stock form. I'm also under the understanding that the G800A is the most limiting version, as there is not even ROMs available to run anything about Android 5.1.1(?)
So I'm understanding if I wanted to go to LineageOS, my options are the G800F/M/Y. Anything I've found on these shows them all virtually identical other than the 4g bands. Would any one of these 3 be any better than the others to use in the USA? Does whatever carrier I would end up going with matter much?
Also, even more stupider questions- has anyone tried installing LineageOS on the G800A?
Last one- what about the G800R4 if I wanted to go with a CDMA carrier?
TIA for any help with this
you can only flash a rom built for your exact device...
only a 800f rom for a 800f device..
or you will brick..
( some roms are built for more then one device like the f/m/y variants)
sadly almost every samsung device sold in the usa after the s4 is bootloader locked.
so you cant flash anything.
you can get a s5 mini g800f from ebay for 60$ and start the flashing game is you love small phones.
That is what is did.
every samsung phone i get now is international or i dont buy it.
@nutpants thx for the reply. I'm still a bit confused tho- aren't US version G900s able to be flashed? Unless I misunderstood some of the stuff I've come across. I'm still on the fence as to whether I want to stay with something quite so small as the G800 (my eyeballs are getting old along with me). I think I might go with a G900 and see how it works out. But is this the same deal ie- I need to look for an international version of that?
Also, I've noticed that tons of international versions have limited to no compatible LTE bands with those used here in the states. I'm assuming there's no workaround for this as it's a hardware issue(?) How much does this affect real world usability?
first off i dont know everything, so you will have to research
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/samsung-galaxy-s5-mini
this is a good reference but i just found it so it could be very wrong also.
( it looks like it is not very good with all the variants so its not to be considered the last word)
while i have not looked at every rom posted here ( and there might be a usa at&t s5mini xda page someplace) i don't remember seeing any rom for the g800a variant of the s5mini if it does not say g800a it will very likely not work, and will brick your device if you try.
(https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rooting-the-s5-mini-from-at-t-g800a.3124674/
its not looking good for your g800a device at all )
i have a g900w8 (Canadian variant) and i can flash anything that the international version uses, but it has all the bands that i usa uses for the most part. (best of both worlds) but i think the usa model (v, r4,p) has a locked boot loader so it is not easy to flash roms.
( i think there is a way to do it, but i never have as i dont but bootloader locked phones)
the s7 and older Canadian phones from samsung are all easily rootable , most can be flashed with international roms, but (dont quote me on this) they use mostly the north america popular bands for lte, hspa, etc.
if you are looking for a newer phone dont get the g900 s5
get the s7 g935w8 canadian phone its about the same size, must faster, better battery ( but you cant replace it, MUCH MUCH better camera (ive had nothing but problems with the s5 camera) and ive found them for about 150$ used in great shape.
if you use data a lot then you want lte to work if you are just going to talk, then the gsm bands are good enough. ive used Canadian phones in the usa plenty and have no serious issues.
but i just got the s5 mini g800f from ebay and im still setting it up so i dont know how well it works yet.
short answer, usa phones are much much harder to root if at all, fewer roms, international phones are much better for all that but may not work well in the usa, canadian phones might be what you want to look at
(my Canadian s5 g900w8 still have support for the latest lineage os 18 )
before you buy check if the phone is supported by lineage os
https://download.lineageos.org/
if it is, then you can root, flash roms and very likely have unofficial roms for years to come.
or you can search xda, but as you can see, the s5mini is all but dead here and developers are not working hard to improve the roms we do have. in another year this place will be a ghost town.
btw i have canadian s4, s5, s7, s4 mini, s7 , s7 edge, note 2, note 3, note 4, mega . and have been very happy with them all. i have a few usa devices (s5 active)but i cant do anything with them. so they sit on a shelf. ( not that any of them do much but the hobby of flashing the newest rom and trying it out.