Is there a way to get this feature working like it does on the Nex6?
Currently (with all the Moto crap disabled) I can only get this functionality while plugged in.
Did they kill the feature in the lollipop build so we'd be forced to use their junkie Moto Voice hand-off system?
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Is there a way to get this feature working like it does on the Nex6?
Currently (with all the Moto crap disabled) I can only get this functionality while plugged in.
Did they kill the feature in the lollipop build so we'd be forced to use their junkie Moto Voice hand-off system?
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I can't speak for the specific version of Google Search that you have, but for versions on the '13 X, they have hotword detection completely disabled.
It turns out there is an internal flag to blacklist devices from turning on the option. I think more recently the version on the 13 allows hotword but does not allow the "from any screen" nor "while screen is off" options.
You used to be able to edit the flags with "unleash the google" But I don't know of this still works and it no longer maps all the settings to their names (meaning you just see config 1 config 2,etc)
OK Google works from any screen and while device off.
Make sure OK Google Detection is turned ON for any screen and off.
You prefer Google voice search over Moto Voice? Why?
martinezma99 said:
OK Google works from any screen and while device off.
Make sure OK Google Detection is turned ON for any screen and off.
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Do you have a link to a source/video showing that this works on the Moto X 2014?
zgroten said:
You prefer Google voice search over Moto Voice? Why?
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Because the response is much faster without the Moto middleware. I'm pissed that they disabled it. Why shouldn't I have a choice???
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Because the response is much faster without the Moto middleware. I'm pissed that they disabled it. Why shouldn't I have a choice???
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I feel exactly the same way. Exactly.
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Does the S5 do the Always Listening with the screen off like the Moto X?
As in, while the screen is off you can say 'OK Google Now' or 'Hi, Galaxy' and get S Voice or Google Now to open?
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brazilian812 said:
Does the S5 do the Always Listening with the screen off like the Moto X?
As in, while the screen is off you can say 'OK Google Now' or 'Hi, Galaxy' and get S Voice or Google Now to open?
Thanks!
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Don't think so, unless there's another setting. Just tried on my S5 and Google only works if you in the homescreen, not sure about S Voice.
surf1 said:
Don't think so, unless there's another setting. Just tried on my S5 and Google only works if you in the homescreen, not sure about S Voice.
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Dang. There might be a setting for S Voice to turn on Hotword Detection maybe?
Even if only S Voice works, there are apps to replace it with Google Now which would be fine by me!
From what I can tell from messing around with the S5, the "OK Google" hotword only works when you have the Google search bar on your homescreen. You take that bar off and it stops working. Other than that, I haven't been able to find any setting to enable it while the screen is off or without the google bar, unfortunately.
According to this article you can use S Voice with the screen off, it's not working for me though. Anyone else get it to work?
"Use S Voice Without Touching the Galaxy S5
Samsung includes S Voice on the Galaxy S5 as a Siri competitor that can perform many actions. Normally you double tap the home button to access this S Voice, but you can set it up to respond to a command even when the display is off.
Open S Voice – Tap on the Settings icon in the upper right -> Choose Settings -> Voice Wakeup On -> tap on Voice Wakeup to set the wake up command."
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/04/11/galaxy-s5-tips-tricks-hidden-features/
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According to this article you can use S Voice with the screen off, it's not working for me though. Anyone else get it to work?
"Use S Voice Without Touching the Galaxy S5
Samsung includes S Voice on the Galaxy S5 as a Siri competitor that can perform many actions. Normally you double tap the home button to access this S Voice, but you can set it up to respond to a command even when the display is off.
Open S Voice – Tap on the Settings icon in the upper right -> Choose Settings -> Voice Wakeup On -> tap on Voice Wakeup to set the wake up command."
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/04/11/galaxy-s5-tips-tricks-hidden-features/
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Dang, that sucks. Are you saying 'Hi Galaxy"?
brazilian812 said:
Dang, that sucks. Are you saying 'Hi Galaxy"?
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Yeah, it let me customize the phrase - so it seems like it should work. I couldn't even get it to work with the screen on though, so I'm wondering if I'm not doing something quite right.
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Yeah, it let me customize the phrase - so it seems like it should work. I couldn't even get it to work with the screen on though, so I'm wondering if I'm not doing something quite right.
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Dont think so. Seems to be several people so far. Which model do you have? Mine is the SMG900I (Asia)
gjlamb said:
Dont think so. Seems to be several people so far. Which model do you have? Mine is the SMG900I (Asia)
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I have the AT&T varianT and no luck unless I'm inside the s voice app (having double clicked the get in)
So from what i can tell phones using DSP chips will be able to use ok google now from stock android. Our Moto X's do use that for the Motorola assist features. Does this mean that android lollipop could help go around moto assist? I don't like the delays that Moto assist comes with, and getting to use Google now through stock would be amazing. They only mention that Nexus 6 and 9, will be able to use it, but i don't see why our phone wouldn't be able to.
It might be able to in theory, but is it possible to disable assist? Havent got the phone so i dont know lol
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It might be able to in theory, but is it possible to disable assist? Havent got the phone so i dont know lol
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Yes, assist can be disabled. The problem is because assist and the files for it are installed, it disables one from saying "ok, google" and letting google now take over. Assist needs to be on if you want to do voice related things. Unless I'm missing something, I haven't found a way to allow google now voice commands to work with assist on or off
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If you disable Moto Voice, Google Search "Ok Google" will work just fine....
I know if you turn moto assist off it will allow ok google hotword with the google launcher. So hopefully the files that allow lollipop to use dsp chip will be included in the software, so it doesn't have to be integrated into moto voice. Cant wait for Lollipop, had L with my Nexus and coming back to kitkat was like a slap to the face.
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If you disable Moto Voice, Google Search "Ok Google" will work just fine....
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ZeroAlphawolf said:
I know if you turn moto assist off it will allow ok google hotword with the google launcher. So hopefully the files that allow lollipop to use dsp chip will be included in the software, so it doesn't have to be integrated into moto voice. Cant wait for Lollipop, had L with my Nexus and coming back to kitkat was like a slap to the face.
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Strange...failed for me before. I'll try again
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Strange...failed for me before. I'll try again
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I know that on the 2013 X this did not work. There is an internal, hidden config flag in Google Search that lists the devices on which hotword detection is permanently disabled -- meaning that nothing you did to to moto touchless controls would help.
That being said, there is an app out there, UnleashTheGoogle, that will un-hide all of the hidden settings in Google Search and then you can just remove your phone from the blacklist (if the '14 X is in there)
So after the recent Moto Voice update, i can't get the Google Now hot word Detection to work at all. Going into Google Settings to try to train it to listen to me, it won't activate the mic at all to listen to me, completely refuses too. Plus, to top it off, Moto Voice now says "Opening Google" Whenever it is too retarded to be able to do what i want it to with my voice, which is ridiculous. I Force closed Moto Voice, and the google now search bar had the mic showing that it was ready for voice. (The filled in one.) but did not respond to Ok Google, and by the time i went to train it, Moto Voice had restarted. I might try freezing Moto Voice with Titanium and seeing if i can get google now to work then. All in all, this is disappointing as it stands.
Ok! So Freezing the Moto Voice app did it for me. (That or yelling ok google at my phone for 5-10 minutes in the training voice part of Google Now Voice Settings.) Regardless i can activate Ok Google again from any screen. Though, my Google Now Settings includes the check box for google searching from the Lock Screen, it doesn't seem to work. That might come with Lollipop proper... -crosses fingers.
Edit: It will allow it to Google Search from lockscreen , But not with sound off... that is the feature that might come with Lollipop.
Anyone know if the Nexus 6 will come with active listening similar to that of the Moto X? It's one of my favorite features about the Moto X.
Do not think of the device as Moto X think of the device as nexus...aka PURE AND COMPLETE stock android. So anything you love about the MOto X odd of you finding it on N6 (unless n6) has it own version, you wont see it.
Hope that answer your question
Aw that's a bummer. There are some Moto apps on the playstore. Hopefully they are usable on the Nexus 6.
msal said:
Anyone know if the Nexus 6 will come with active listening similar to that of the Moto X? It's one of my favorite features about the Moto X.
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http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
Scroll to the bottom and click "SEE ALL FEATURES." Here's one of the things it says:
OK Google
Easy access to information and performing tasks
Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
Talk to Google on the go to get quick answers, send a text, get directions and more
The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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Other than the ability to set a custom listing phrase, what are the "advanced listening features"?
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http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
Scroll to the bottom and click "SEE ALL FEATURES." Here's one of the things it says:
OK Google
Easy access to information and performing tasks
Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
Talk to Google on the go to get quick answers, send a text, get directions and more
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In regards to the texting thing. I hope they fix it to use GV number with hangouts. With the nexus 5 if I use voice commands to send a text it uses my carrier number. Same with virtually every other app that sends stuff auto via text messages,
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The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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This is already available with the Google Launcher on my S4 (so long as the phone is charging). Time will tell if this is available on the Nexus 6 from idle when it's not charging.
Does anyone know of a way to disable Moto Voice and simply use the voice wake to activate Google Now? Perhaps via an Xposed module?
Moto Voice, in it's current iteration is too slow and not value added enough for me to prefer it over Google Now. Plus, if I hear "Opening Google" one more time, I'm going to go crazy.
Tykin said:
Does anyone know of a way to disable Moto Voice and simply use the voice wake to activate Google Now? Perhaps via an Xposed module?
Moto Voice, in it's current iteration is too slow and not value added enough for me to prefer it over Google Now. Plus, if I hear "Opening Google" one more time, I'm going to go crazy.
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it's pretty simple: open the Moto App, tap the Settings button on top right, tap the Voice button/icon and uncheck the Launch phrase. you might have to setup up voice activation on Google Now. like you i prefer Google Now for the time being. hope this was helpful.:good:
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it's pretty simple: open the Moto App, tap the Settings button on top right, tap the Voice button/icon and uncheck the Launch phrase. you might have to setup up voice activation on Google Now. like you i prefer Google Now for the time being. hope this was helpful.:good:
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That will disable the voice wake. I'm looking for a way to jump straight into Google Now anytime I say my Moto Voice launch phrase.
OK, yeah that's different. Interpreted that you wanted to just go to Google Now. With my suggestion, saying "OK Google" takes you to Google Now (vs your moto launch phase).
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Do you have the pure edition or carrier? Pure if you root there is a way to do it, if its carrier and locked you can't, sorry. Hopefully Lollipop will make it possible too, Nexus 6 has ambient display to rip off active display, and will use the always listening chip it has to act like moto voice, but built into google now.
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Do you have the pure edition or carrier? Pure if you root there is a way to do it, if its carrier and locked you can't, sorry. Hopefully Lollipop will make it possible too, Nexus 6 has ambient display to rip off active display, and will use the always listening chip it has to act like moto voice, but built into google now.
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can you share your "tip" to make this happen? I have a rooted Pure version.
cortez.i said:
can you share your "tip" to make this happen? I have a rooted Pure version.
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Here is the link to the reddit discussion about it, i didn't manage to get it set up myself, cause i dislike Xposed and prefer to use ART. OkGoogleNowTrigger
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Here is the link to the reddit discussion about it, i didn't manage to get it set up myself, cause i dislike Xposed and prefer to use ART. OkGoogleNowTrigger
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Thanks! Now I need to figure out if I want to root my phone now or wait for L and Xposed to run on ART.
Lollipop is supposed to be able to do ok google from screen off with phones using the always listening chips. The nexus 6 and 9 are supposed to use it with theirs. I'm still hoping that our moto's well be able to use it as part of stock android so i don't have to use moto voice at all. Only i don't know if they intend to add custom phrase support, which i could stand losing. Though i concur about ART xposed, that i can't wait for.
Firstly, Merry Christmas Moto X peeps!
Ok so I am grateful for Motorola to include touches control. Love it. But I recently realized that enabling touchless control through Google Now on my Nexus 7 has a way faster hotword detection than the Motorola touchless control way. Unfortunately when I try to disable Touchless control on the Moto X and then enable Google's "Ok, Google" hotword detection the option is greyed out. I'm sure this has been discussed before but I was unable to find the answer. I have an unlocked bootloader, rooted, xposed, running stock 4.4.2. Is anybody aware of a method for enabling the Google Now hotword detection instead of Motorola's Touchless control?
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Try UnleashTheGoogle to allow moto x for the hotword detection. This worked for me.
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Try UnleashTheGoogle to allow moto x for the hotword detection. This worked for me.
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Is that an xposed module or an app?
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Is that an xposed module or an app?
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It's an app
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It's an app
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Found the app, but the hotword detection is still greyed out.
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Even if you did switch to it, You'd lose touchless control. It won't work when screen is off.
Also, it will take its share of battery life from you, where moto's touchless control battery drain is minor.
Just food for thought. ?
Darth said:
Even if you did switch to it, You'd lose touchless control. It won't work when screen is off.
Also, it will take its share of battery life from you, where moto's touchless control battery drain is minor.
Just food for thought. ?
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Great points. Didn't think of it not working when the screen was off. Or the battery drain for that matter. Much appreciated.
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Jersey846 said:
Great points. Didn't think of it not working when the screen was off. Or the battery drain for that matter. Much appreciated.
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I don't know if it will work on screen off as I am still waiting for my moto x to arrive (got one as a secondary device and I am excited about it) but I am pretty sure the google now option to listen is greyed out because you don't have English US set as your system language (it's got to be US if you set it to UK for example it won't work) and then again you may have to set it again through google now options too for it to actually work. Give it a try and tell me how it goes.
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I don't know if it will work on screen off as I am still waiting for my moto x to arrive (got one as a secondary device and I am excited about it) but I am pretty sure the google now option to listen is greyed out because you don't have English US set as your system language (it's got to be US if you set it to UK for example it won't work) and then again you may have to set it again through google now options too for it to actually work. Give it a try and tell me how it goes.
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I do have mine set to English US, but I have opted to stick with Moto's voice recognition due to the above advice. Thanks for the input though!
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