So, having noticed soooo many people report the reasonability of Google potentially hiding the "miscellaneous" battery drain and not actually having fixed the Lollipop battery bug on Nexus 5.
I did some calculations. I am guessing now that 1% drain in batt stats means at least 1% drain and not less.
We don't have 5 significant digits of battery drain. That would be perhaps too specific. Complete accuracy of battery drain for the seemingly simple entropy of heat dissipation would be astonishing too!
However,
I counted up an extra 1 % on sombunall drain counts, and got 47 rather than 36 percent loss. I mean some 1% drains were 1.4% right? Maybe 1.7 or 1.8... I don't know the rounding or truncating algorithm.
Then, I added 35% battery remaining and got 82% of my battery accounted for.
Then... I remembered that I used about 30 more apps and that many syncing apps and services and usages that did happen... were NOT EVEN in my battery stats.
Just assuming that some energy cannot by used in one form without transferring into another form (thanks Grade 9 lesson on conservation of energy!), I will assume every nanosecond of my app usage and syncing services ALL drained part of my battery, even if less than 1%. I wasn't using any magical crystals in my other pocket or anything.... THEREFORE,
I will conclude, only to indulge in hyperbole and be silly, that my phone has a maximum charge capacity of about 113%!!!!
Google's doing something right!!
Well, to be serious for a second, 30+ stat unmentioned apps each used LESS than 1% but must have used MORE than 0%.
Thus I am certain, about 100% of my battery stats makes sense on Lollipop, and NO MORE MISC BATT USAGE BUG!
Yay! Thanks for a decent product Google,
And for great ROMs and kernels all you developers!
You make things work better for people's activities and livelihoods.
W00t, 5 hours SoT, 26% battery left, 4 hours average use left for the day... That's sweet by all counts.
Yay!
Was this really worth creating a new thread?
Could have just posted it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/nexus-5-battery-results-t2509132
Thread closed, please continue in mentioned thread.
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Hello,
I recently started using an application called Battery Graph that lets me see my battery usage over time, and I've noticed that if I were to leave the phone in standby that in 1-3 hour intervals there's a big 5-10% drop in battery charge. I was wondering if there were anyway to log what application or background service actives during a period of standby so I can find and disable whatever is leeching my battery life?
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I'm sure theirs a hundred apps on the market, and if your running cyanogen, theres a nifty little tool in there somewhere that shows you what apps suck up what.
But honestly, I would suggest buying an extended battery ($16), I currently own one, and MAN, I can last all day and half of the next under full gaming/etc.
And I'm not exaggerating
(Besides the fact I just violated 2 of the most crucial grammatical rules by starting a sentence with 'but' or 'and' )
Hi,
I know there's a whole bunch of threads on battery life, but I cant seeing info that mentions the rate at which the screen consumes battery.
Anyway, I charged my phone from 1% to 100% last night and when I disconnected and started to use it, the battery had dropped by 4% with just 8mins of onscreen time (WiFi).
Is this battery depletion rate normal? (1% every 2mins, effectively around 3hrs)
Thanks
The battery doesn't actually charge to 100%. It's dangerous. The fact that it states 100% is just for show. It actually only charges to around 96% which is why it drops so fast at the beginning.
K1LLER HORNET said:
Hi,
I know there's a whole bunch of threads on battery life, but I cant seeing info that mentions the rate at which the screen consumes battery.
Anyway, I charged my phone from 1% to 100% last night and when I disconnected and started to use it, the battery had dropped by 4% with just 8mins of onscreen time (WiFi).
Is this battery depletion rate normal? (1% every 2mins, effectively around 3hrs)
Thanks
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I have about the same battery discharge rate (1% for about 2 minutes of screen time with wifi). If it is on standby then it only drop 1% for every 2 hrs.
rstaux slergyman;
I see.
Thanks for the info.
Just out of curiosity, why is it dangerous?
crecsky said:
The battery doesn't actually charge to 100%. It's dangerous. The fact that it states 100% is just for show. It actually only charges to around 96% which is why it drops so fast at the beginning.
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My Note does not fit this pattern. It takes 6 hrs on standby to drop from 100% to 99% and then 1% drop after that for every 2 hrs on standby.
I too charge to 100％ or whatever 96％ with my wifi on for 15 min and it droped to 97％ no bad thogh
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Wow, installed Juice Defender and have just reached the 24hr mark with moderate use.
Usage: 25-30% brightness, WiFi, GPS, Facebook, Web Browsing, Texts.
I still have over 50% battery life remaining
If consumption continues at this rate, I'll be able to get 2 days battery life which from a modern smart phone is pretty astonishing
Battery Life is too short
Didn't want to create yet another Battery Thread;
I'm getting lousy batter life.
I'll disconnect my SGN ICS at 7.30am and it's bellow 30% by 2.00pm.
I know I have A LOT of apps installed, but the Battery shows minimal consumption; it's always Display as the top consumer, with 31% responsibility.
My GSN has an unusual origin; it started with a CSC TTT which is from Trinidad and Tobago. I followed these instructions to the letter and got myself a working ICS SGN.
I was worried that by loading a European CSC would have adverse effects on an Mexican Network.
I don't know why, or how, but after the flash, I'm still with the TTT CSC.
The device performs flawlessly, except for the battery consumption.
Is it possible that flashing this ROM/CSC is responsible for the poor battery life?
I really enjoy ICS and would prefer not to go back to GB.
Any input will be greatly appreciated.
Yeh mt battery is kinda the same. I browse alot but not on my phone all day but i deffo have to charge ny phone once a day or even twice at times. Abit of a joke and im wondering what else can i do. I have updated to ics and no difference.
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Hobbes2099 said:
Didn't want to create yet another Battery Thread;
I'm getting lousy batter life.
I'll disconnect my SGN ICS at 7.30am and it's bellow 30% by 2.00pm.
I know I have A LOT of apps installed, but the Battery shows minimal consumption; it's always Display as the top consumer, with 31% responsibility.
My GSN has an unusual origin; it started with a CSC TTT which is from Trinidad and Tobago. I followed these instructions to the letter and got myself a working ICS SGN.
I was worried that by loading a European CSC would have adverse effects on an Mexican Network.
I don't know why, or how, but after the flash, I'm still with the TTT CSC.
The device performs flawlessly, except for the battery consumption.
Is it possible that flashing this ROM/CSC is responsible for the poor battery life?
I really enjoy ICS and would prefer not to go back to GB.
Any input will be greatly appreciated.
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My SGN battery drops 1% for every 6 hr on standby however it drop 1% for every 2 minutes of screen time and wifi.
Juice Defender (free)
Gave Juice Defender a try.
the App recommends to allow for "a couple of days"; I'm guessing it adapts.
I've always been skeptical of "Battery Booster" apps.
Having said that, I'm pretty sure I have improved my battery life.
It's not "born-again christian" life changing, but there's definitely an improvement.
I'll try it for a week or so before I decide whether the ultimate edition is worth it.
I keep switching my cellphone off while not using, and same goes for wifi. Using it as a secondary phone as well. It lasts only 4-6 hours.. :S I keep closing background apps, and kill app once im done with it..
Hey guys, I have a weird issue. Regardless what ROM I am on, my battery percentage will randomly drop like 10%
Randomly, I will be using it, I'll be at 70%, then it will just drop to 60%, normal use. Been happening a lot more recently.
Is this a sign of a battery going bad? I've had this phone roughly a year (Stock battery).
Thanks!
What does your battery life look like? A battery's performance WILL degrade over time, but if your battery life is still good enough for you, I don't see any harm in continuing to use it.
You could get an app like Battery Monitor Widget. It will keep track of usage and calculate the health of the battery. You can also try wiping battery stats (the app can do that too), it could just be the phone mis-reading the battery...
I have been using my Note 3 since early November 2013 and battery has been great all the time. In last 2-3 days, battery has been draining a lot faster. I have not installed any new apps which could cause this battery drain. I updated to kitkat 10 days ago though.
Yesterday: my battery only lasted for 7 hrs with only 40 mins of screen on time. Battery was drained by Android System (18%), Android OS (14%) Android Core apps (12%), Google Services (12%) and Screen (5%)
Today: GlanceViewMk (33%). Note that I always have Glance View enabled from day 1 and never had issues. Why is it draining 33% battery all of a sudden?
It's not draining 33% of your battery, it's responsible for 33% of as much as is being drained. If it's draining as much as it ever has, but a lot of other things are draining less, that app will drain a larger percentage. You always have 100% total drain - 100% of the amount being used is being used. But that could be 10% of the battery capacity.
Im seriously considering buying this device as it is quite good priced now and it ticks all my needs.
But I dont know what to think of batterlife in day to day usage. Some say its perfectly fine, some say not....
I considered X too, which is good enough on battery for me, with Nougat updated.
How is X Performance after Nougat update?
Any better?
Please share some insights.
Like: percentage used after 1hr videoplay, and after 1hr browsing, and 1hr playing.
Im coming from Z1c with kitkat, which battery performance im quite satisfied ( 6-8hr SoT) and Im affraid to make a wrong choice going for X Performance instead of X, concerning batterylife.
My usage routine is Stamina on, background data off, and no battery drainig social or other apps.
Would like some help in deciding....
This info would be nice to have, as I'm in the same boat as you. I've heard good things about Z5 battery life with Nougat, though...
I get about the same as on my z3
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I get about the same as on my z3
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That would be superb.
Is your rooted or not?
And please some more info, your usage pattern, aproximate Screen on Time?
I get a little less usage out of this device per charge than I did from my Z3. With my Z3, I was getting 2 days easily. With the X Performance, I can get anywhere from 1.5 to 2 days depending on whether or not Google Play Services decides to keep my device awake. I use my phone very liberally throughout the day: light browsing, some Reddit, occasional calls (maybe a half hour each day), etc. I found the Nougat update made the battery life a lot better on the X Performance. I don't have any solid stats for screen on time but I think I get anywhere from 2-2.5hrs over the two days.
Thanks a lot. .
So how about your SoT after battery goes below 10%. What does it say under batteryusage, screen, how much hr of usage?
I'm just charging my phone now, so I'll let it run down and I'll report my SoT when it's around 10%
I'm at 22% right now with 1:16 SoT. This was not the greatest run because Google Play Services used up 13% of my battery. Generally, I get around 2:00 SoT over two days and Phone Idle takes up the most battery. If I see my battery draining quicker than I'm used to, I'll reboot my device and that stops Google Play Services from wasting more battery. I'm really hoping this issue will be fixed in a future update. Hope this helps!
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I'm at 22% right now with 1:16 SoT. This was not the greatest run because Google Play Services used up 13% of my battery. Generally, I get around 2:00 SoT over two days and Phone Idle takes up the most battery. If I see my battery draining quicker than I'm used to, I'll reboot my device and that stops Google Play Services from wasting more battery. I'm really hoping this issue will be fixed in a future update. Hope this helps!
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Oh man, you are indeed a different pattern user than me.
1:15 hr SOT while your screen says 11%.....deriving from that its good.
But that idle and google play services percentage is bad.
I m using with background data off, just in intervals, and Stamina on, and location info off. I believe it ll get much better endurance in idle that way. But I also leave active the few apps I want, like Viber in battery stamina settings.
Try playing with those settings to get some better idle time.
Thanks a lot.
Just as a follow up: I heavily used my phone last night and I'm at 1:20 SoT (15 hours off the charger) with 70% battery left. Depending on your usage, you'll see much different SoT times
Thanks, that should be 15% used by Screen(should read 50% in stats), and about 15% system, google and idle in those 15hr( altogether 50% in stats).
Well, thats about 6.5hr SOT by batterytests....
Which is not bad at all.
About Same as my Z1c....
Im satisfied with that, although batteryendurance will not be an improvement over my z1c, everything else will....
Thanks alot again, I ll order it....
its about 400€+ VAT now, which is a good price for that device.
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Thanks, that should be 15% used by Screen(should read 50% in stats), and about 15% system, google and idle in those 15hr( altogether 50% in stats).
Well, thats about 6.5hr SOT by batterytests....
Which is not bad at all.
About Same as my Z1c....
Im satisfied with that, although batteryendurance will not be an improvement over my z1c, everything else will....
Thanks alot again, I ll order it....
its about 400€+ VAT now, which is a good price for that device.
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Just a surplus note:
My measurments of Z1c being about the same are with background data on.
With background data off I get 70% used by screen on half brightness.
And Much less % used in idle and android system (15%).
Which translates to about 12% battery for 1hr SoT....(surfing).
Gets easily about 8 hr SoT overall.
So X Performance should be about the same also with background data off.
Last barely 12hours to me, not much music and gaming
Just as I measjred, getting 6-7 hr SoT with my usage pattern. Its good.
Wonderful device btw. ?
Tann Hauser said:
Just as I measjred, getting 6-7 hr SoT with my usage pattern. Its good.
Wonderful device btw.
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