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i have Nokia n900 and now i am also in seek of something new now! i think i should go for galaxy note.
i would get it if it has....
open ssh
app like smscon(control mobile via sms) (ie deleting files call a yourself, snap thief photo)
backup menu(keep rootfs and and installed software inulding OS)
evil alarm(an alarm which does not go off unless doing a task complete)
H-E-N
xterminal
emulatores(ie ps2.sega genesis)
vnc viwer
and root access and how is multitasking on galaxy note?
can anyone confirm for me?
you can google al the apps (since i am not allowed to post links here)
I would buy Nokia n900 if it has Android✘
Boy124 said:
I would buy Nokia n900 if it has Android✘
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then buy n900 because it has android with dual boot!!!
Why would I want meego / maemo as a second os? I already have android and Ubuntu on GNote.
Believe me its the best 'phone' available in the market.
Boy124 said:
Why would I want meego / maemo as a second os? I already have android and Ubuntu on GNote.
Believe me its the best 'phone' available in the market.
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i started the thread to get answers of my questions , not to debate anyone kindly tell me if galaxy note has those types of apps? I must need them i would be a good member of this comunity when i get my GN.
nicholes said:
i started the thread to get answers of my questions , not to debate anyone kindly tell me if galaxy note has those types of apps? I must need them i would be a good member of this comunity when i get my GN.
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Your request is very modest. You're asking someone to spend hours trying to establish whether certain apps run on the Note (or Android) or not.
Go visit the Google Market and see for yourself. There's tens of thousands of apps there, covering everything under the sun.
GNote can be rooted, that I can tell you, our future good member.
nicholes said:
i have Nokia n900 and now i am also in seek of something new now! i think i should go for galaxy note.
i would get it if it has....
open ssh
app like smscon(control mobile via sms) (ie deleting files call a yourself, snap thief photo)
backup menu(keep rootfs and and installed software inulding OS)
evil alarm(an alarm which does not go off unless doing a task complete)
H-E-N
xterminal
emulatores(ie ps2.sega genesis)
vnc viwer
and root access and how is multitasking on galaxy note?
can anyone confirm for me?
you can google al the apps (since i am not allowed to post links here)
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i came from an n900 too, was a good swap.
you can use something like eset mobile security for your sms con stuff. more or less the same thing, can remote wipe, remote lock, remote GPS, etc. although samsungdive.com will give you similar control via a web browser.
no xterminal that i know of, so you cant run 'sudo gainroot' but there are other ways of gaining root. theres a one click root method.
theres another app called 'gotya!' where it snaps a photo of whoever is trying to unlock your device and then emails the photo to you.
backup stuff can be handed via clockworkmod on custom firmwares or via samsung kies software.
there are plenty of emulators on the android market/google play or whatever its called now.
multitasking on android isnt as efficient as on the n900. on the n900, you have that multitask button, which was pure awesome. on android, by default the nearest thing we have is if you press and hold the home key, you can see the last bunch of recent apps, it doesnt tell you if its running or not. there was a visual task switcher on the market that ran similar to the n900 multitask method, but it doesnt run on anything newer than froyo. the next best thing would be something like 'smart task switcher'.
dunno about the other stuff you've mentioned though.
Hi Nicholes,
openssh - yes, there are several free ssh client apps, but better terminal emulator pro (£2.49) gets best reviews. I haven't tried ssh on the note myself (yet!) - I used it on n900 at first but soon replaced with openvpn which met my needs better. I've setup openvpn on my note (requires root and a custom kernel with tun.ko) it runs very nicely.
smscon - partial: samsung offer their own free app for the note, see: http://v2.samsungdive.com/help/guideRemoteControlsClear.do and there are other smilar free apps - however I haven't seen one that offers linux shell command "passthrough" via SMS like the SMScon app does for n900. I used to use reverse ssh to be able to do full remote control of my n900 outwith any apps - it took a while to get that set up to maintain tunnels across wifi/3G changes, and once I had it working I never had cause to use it Anyway, a combination of one of the free remote location pps plus ssh should give you most of what you're used to.
backup menu - I never used it on n900, but if you root the note then you have titanium backup (for apps/data) and CWM (full /system image).
evil alarm - haven't looked, but guaranteed to be one in android market (or should I say "google play" as it's about to be rebranded).
HEN - yes, note has full usb on the go/host mode out of the box, so much easier and more reliable, plug & play
xterminal - yes. plenty of terminal emulators to choose from, I use "terminal emulator". It's not as nice as n900, lacking the h/w keyboard and it doesn't support tab key to autocomplete, but pretty usable.
emulators - gain, no idea but pretty sure there are loads
vnc viewer - yes, I use pocketcloud free - excellent VNC client. The free version only allows one saved connection but that is sufficient for me. THe screen size of the note makes this a far better remote access solution than the n900 (even though I loved presenceVNC, you cant beat some physical real estate for remote access work). There is also 2x client for RDP client access to windows boxes. This is free, has no limitations, and works excellently. Again, better than RDP client on n900 partly due to better/more intuitive mouse/keyboard support but also jsut screen size.
root access - yes, pretty easy to do although some newer firmwares are not directly rootable (need a downgrade->root-> upgrade). Drawbacks to being rooted I've come across: some apps (eg. skygo for UK access to sky TV) don't work with rooted phones unless you jump through hoops;
and how is multitasking on galaxy note? errr ... a bit of a dissapointment after n900! task switching is a bit cumbersome by comparison (though fine once you are used to it) but android tends to arbitrarily remove tasks from memory if you aren't using them which sucks. Also, if you are watching video it's not easy to concurrently do other stuff on android - as soon as you switch away from video, it auto-pauses. that said, the extra RAM makes up to an extent
I'd suggest you re-post this question over at TMO - there is a samsung galaxy note thread there which has been running for a while and there are several active n900/note users on it who know much more than me about android and I think you'll probably get more/better replies there. They are currently discussing an Android video player that allows you to run the video windowed or even minimised
EDIT - oh, just noticed that you've already posted there too ... you're way ahead of me!
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Hi Nicholes,
openssh - yes, there are several free ssh client apps, but better terminal emulator pro (£2.49) gets best reviews. I haven't tried ssh on the note myself (yet!) - I used it on n900 at first but soon replaced with openvpn which met my needs better. I've setup openvpn on my note (requires root and a custom kernel with tun.ko) it runs very nicely.
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I did not find (or manage to compile) openssh for Android. dropbear has much less features (both client and server), so if you use any specific feature that openssh has and dropbear does not have, you might have a problem. I wrote a simple bash script to parse openssh's .ssh/config file and run dropbear with the correct parameters, which gives me a client that behaves similarly to openssh client.
xterminal - yes. plenty of terminal emulators to choose from, I use "terminal emulator". It's not as nice as n900, lacking the h/w keyboard and it doesn't support tab key to autocomplete, but pretty usable.
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Tab completion is not a function of the terminal emulator, but of the shell. The ash shell which is included in busybox in packages such as "terminal emulator" and "sshdroid" does support tab completion. It is not the default login shell, so you need to change the configuration, or run it manually.
nicholes said:
open ssh
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You're not specifying whether you want an SSH client or server. But yes, there are plenty of both on the App Market.
app like smscon(control mobile via sms) (ie deleting files call a yourself, snap thief photo)
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No idea.
backup menu(keep rootfs and and installed software inulding OS)
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Not by default, but you can install Clockworkmod (CWM) to take/restore backups.
evil alarm(an alarm which does not go off unless doing a task complete)
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No idea.
H-E-N
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Yes, USB OTG is supported. Drive Mount is an application that comes in handy.
xterminal
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No, there is no X.Org and as such no xterminal either. If you're looking for just a terminal emulator then there is one called Better Terminal Emulator Pro that is very good.
emulatores(ie ps2.sega genesis)
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No PS2 emulator. Yongzh ( https://slideme.org/user/3168/applications/3168 *) has Genesis, NES, SNES etc.
vnc viwer
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On app market, yes.
and root access
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If you root it then yes.
and how is multitasking on galaxy note?
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Good enough. Less powerful than on N900 as it is limited by Dalvik itself, but anyways.
can anyone confirm for me?
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I just did. Then again, you could have just googled all of these answers yourself.
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nicholes said:
then buy n900 because it has android with dual boot!!!
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NITdroid is not useable, it lacks way too many features on N900.
THANKS! for all the great and detailed information. this forum looks my future forum when i got my new GN
Good luck to you. I got you wrong, my bad. I thought you were gonna post how nokia/meego/maego was (?!) better than android. And welcome to the forum.
Boy124 said:
Good luck to you. I got you wrong, my bad. I thought you were gonna post how nokia/meego/maego was (?!) better than android. And welcome to the forum.
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Actually, as a Note owner i would have preferred maemo on my Note. Too bad they dropped it for sucky wp7
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I did the swap and was obsessed with my n900. But the note is far far superior. Its not quite as 'nerdy' as the n900 in my opinion. But does everything I've asked of it. wait until you see the notes screen. Its blinding in comparison to the n900. You wont look back. Trust me. Providing you have some basic technical knowledge (which I assume you do coming from the Nokia) you will have no trouble rooting and playing with kernels. Etc. It seems to me that the devs for the note and for android in general provide more complete packages than I experienced on the n900. Kernels are optimized and roms have all the tweaks you would want applied. Where the n900 was more of a manual affair messing with the terminal (which I did love doing). I barely use the terminal now as most apps are very well written and have all the tweaks and features you need for customizing without the nitty gritty of line by line and scripts in the n900. Just my opinion though!
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and how is multitasking on galaxy note? errr ... a bit of a dissapointment after n900! task switching is a bit cumbersome by comparison (though fine once you are used to it) but android tends to arbitrarily remove tasks from memory if you aren't using them which sucks. Also, if you are watching video it's not easy to concurrently do other stuff on android - as soon as you switch away from video, it auto-pauses. that said, the extra RAM makes up to an extent
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Also completely agree with the above.
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While on this issue, is there a replacement for Mappero (maemo-mapper)? The features I miss in Google Maps compared to Mappero are:
On map tracking (including display of track length).
Display of route length/route distance remaining.
Precaching of maps by coordinates or along routes.
Saving of routes (for using without internet access.
You've got many answers on the app side of questions so i'll just say this. I too came from the n900 and i am very disappointed with the multitasking. I also completely agree with _pigro_.
There isnt much else im not happy with though. The size is phoenominal!
Do it you will be happy. Rooting and custom rom fun galore!
How's that for multitasking on the note?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532980
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mfractal said:
How's that for multitasking on the note?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532980
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Sure it is capable of running lots at the same time but the actual handling of multitasking on android is far inferior.
Dont get me wrong, i am impressed with android, but i expected better multitasking. I have also experienced closing of apps that i left running but most of the time its seems ok and i can get used to it as the note is impressive in every other way.
The n900 also gave live thumbnails of apps when switching which still impressed me for the two years after my contract ended that i kept the n900 for. Such a good phone for its time.
nicholes said:
i have Nokia n900 and now i am also in seek of something new now! i think i should go for galaxy note.
i would get it if it has....
open ssh
app like smscon(control mobile via sms) (ie deleting files call a yourself, snap thief photo)
backup menu(keep rootfs and and installed software inulding OS)
evil alarm(an alarm which does not go off unless doing a task complete)
H-E-N
xterminal
emulatores(ie ps2.sega genesis)
vnc viwer
and root access and how is multitasking on galaxy note?
can anyone confirm for me?
you can google al the apps (since i am not allowed to post links here)
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I had a N900 before i bought a SGS2 and now have both SGS2 and Note!
The answer to your questions:
Q: Open ssh?
A: Don't need this!
Q: app like smscon?
A: Use Avast Anti-Theft!
Q: backup menu?
A: CWM!
Q: evil alarm!
A: Lot's of apps that do that!
Q: H-e-n?
A: On The Go (OTG) USB is supported by all versions of Gingerbread and ICS! No extra app for that is needed!
Q: xterminal?
A: MANY, MANY,MANY terminals for free in Market lol
Q: emulatores?
A: PS1, N64, etc etc etc.. all available in Market!
Q: vnc viewer?
A: Yep this too.. and you can emulate Linux and Backtrack 5
Root access is available to all devices that i know and multitasking works like a charm
Go get it!!! It's worth it and believe me, i loved my N900 and i love my Note even more!
Everything you dream you could do on N900 you can do on Note and more!
MatanZ said:
While on this issue, is there a replacement for Mappero (maemo-mapper)? The features I miss in Google Maps compared to Mappero are:
On map tracking (including display of track length).
Display of route length/route distance remaining.
Precaching of maps by coordinates or along routes.
Saving of routes (for using without internet access.
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Use sygic! Works like a charm on Note!
DOWNLOAD NOW! http://update.archos.com/9/gen9/gen9_4.0.4/firmware_archos_it4.aos
from [email protected] via archosfans
[email protected] said:
ICS UPGRADE IS HERE – ANDROID 4.0
Starting today, the over-the-air (OTA) upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich will begin rolling out to G9 owner’s worldwide.
Click here for more information regarding the update:
http://store.archos.com/docs/Android 4 0 Update Fact Sheet.pdf
The update should be available shortly here:
http://www.archos.com/support/support_tech/updates_fwm.html?country=us&lang=en
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It's firmware version 4.0.4, changelog below:
Version 4.0.4 - March 8th, 2012
Initial Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.3 firmware release
MediaCenter Video: support for MKV3D on TV with automatic switch to best 3D mode
MediaCenter Video: allow to disable system notifications in video player
MediaCenter Video: collection of VOB files from DVD are now gathered into a single movie item
MediaCenter Music: integrate Music control panel in Lock Screen
MediaCenter info dialog: allow to edit the name used for performing the Movie and TVShow online search
File Manager: display a notification when file copy continues in background
File Manager: improved drag and drop support
File Manager: new option to prevent indexing of some storage/sdcard folders by multimedia library
Applications: more robust video conferencing support (Google talk, Skype etc.)
USB file transfer: a samba server is now activated on the tablet when using USB network tethering for easier file transfer on non Windows based hosts
Archos widgets: new USB network tether widget
External Keyboard: french layout has been expanded to handle AtlGr keys for special symbols
Accessories: Xbox gamepad support
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Download now: http://update.archos.com/9/gen9/gen9_4.0.4/firmware_archos_it4.aos
If you are having problems with updating via your tablet, download the AOS file above from your tablet and open with file manager, or download to your PC, reboot into recovery, goto update firmware, and copy the AOS to drive that pops up.
If your device is still laggy: Reboot into recovery > format > reformat
Notice! you will lose all downloaded apps, pictures, media, etc, and you will need to install the official firmware aos via your PC
Like I got told today on irc:
current eta is today at 5
launch timer is running
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And they did it.
Hope for developer edition soon.
haerwu said:
Like I got told today on irc:
And they did it.
Hope for developer edition soon.
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haha it's 8:30 am for me, updating right now! hopefully this is worth the wait
:d
It's really here.
Just booted up my G9!
"A firmware upgrade is avalible - 4.0.4"
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Wait, WTF? 4.0.4 :O
I AM HAPPYZ!
changelog
Version 4.0.4 - March 8th, 2012
Initial Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.3 firmware release
MediaCenter Video: support for MKV3D on TV with automatic switch to best 3D mode
MediaCenter Video: allow to disable system notifications in video player
MediaCenter Video: collection of VOB files from DVD are now gathered into a single movie item
MediaCenter Music: integrate Music control panel in Lock Screen
MediaCenter info dialog: allow to edit the name used for performing the Movie and TVShow online search
File Manager: display a notification when file copy continues in background
File Manager: improved drag and drop support
File Manager: new option to prevent indexing of some storage/sdcard folders by multimedia library
Applications: more robust video conferencing support (Google talk, Skype etc.)
USB file transfer: a samba server is now activated on the tablet when using USB network tethering for easier file transfer on non Windows based hosts
Archos widgets: new USB network tether widget
External Keyboard: french layout has been expanded to handle AtlGr keys for special symbols
Accessories: Xbox gamepad support
Ive Download Ed IT juist now hand thuis is my first thing i do on ICS wow its reacting great
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Check this!
http://update.archos.com/9/gen9/changes_firmware_archos_android_gen9it4.htm
Oh im from the netherlands
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louisvdbos said:
Oh im from the netherlands
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Lucky you.
My internet is sllllllooowwww so it should (on average) be finished downloading in 26 minutes
works great here
don't have adb at this place, can someone please tell me the output of this?
Code:
adb shell uname -a
thanks in advance.
still no ad-hoc support...
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a1Pha said:
works great here
don't have adb at this place, can someone please tell me the output of this?
Code:
adb shell uname -a
thanks in advance.
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Linux localhost 3.0.8+ #3 SMP PREEMPT Thu Mar 8 15:49:40 CET 2012 armv7l unknown
First impressions:
UI is beautiful
Menus seem to have some lag (settings menu mostly, worse than honeycomb)
Camera app is awesome! picture quality also seems better?
internet browser seems to be more fluid
Chrome beta in the market!
overall still seems slow and laggy :/ (really wish i had the 1.5 turbo D: )
it looks a little slower
reboot is faster
opera doesn't works with flash 11
internal browser works better, even in flash sites or playing videos
chrome is too heavy and slow
IrishStuff09 said:
Did you still have your apps after updating?
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you have everything, including wifi configuration and all your apps
Apps after updating to 4.0.4?
Shano56 said:
First impressions:
UI is beautiful
Menus seem to have some lag (settings menu mostly, worse than honeycomb)
Camera app is awesome! picture quality also seems better?
internet browser seems to be more fluid
Chrome beta in the market!
overall still seems slow and laggy :/ (really wish i had the 1.5 turbo D: )
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Did you still have your apps after updating?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRREEE the Archos servers overloaded? My update froze at 87% and now it canceled and then restarted but it says Error, try again!
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Angry.
Downloading now. Gonna do it manually via PC.
Really pissed right now.
IrishStuff09 said:
Did you still have your apps after updating?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRREEE the Archos servers overloaded? My update froze at 87% and now it canceled and then restarted but it says Error, try again!
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Angry.
Downloading now. Gonna do it manually via PC.
Really pissed right now.
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yes, however I'm considering a data wipe, maybe solve the lag problem (wishful thinking xD)
is there any possiblilty of downgrade or do the developer edition is still there after update???
Nice , i am d/l it now and hopefully the battery life will be better !!
Well seems after i delete all apps that is faster the interface and i see some useful developer option , like Gpu accelaration , close background apps , show cpu usage !!
A-May-Zing. Downloading now, will check it out fully later.
Now XDA gurus, one-click root and some memory optimizations please!!
i believe it seems to be faster...
and chrome works very well
now the questions is how to root it ;-)
schmo90 said:
i believe it seems to be faster...
and chrome works very well
now the questions is how to root it ;-)
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wait for our wonderful devs, and they will come up with something. cuz they are brilliant
edit: i did a full format (from recovery menu) and reinstalled 4.0.4...and holy **** this is fast!
Hey Gents!
Does anyone know about a powerpoint presenter for the gear? this would be totally awesome if i could steer my presentations with my gear
i dont need the presentation itself on the watch, only buttons for for- and backwards (like media player remote).
any ideas on existing solutions or possible workarounds?
DomZH said:
Hey Gents!
Does anyone know about a powerpoint presenter for the gear? this would be totally awesome if i could steer my presentations with my gear
i dont need the presentation itself on the watch, only buttons for for- and backwards (like media player remote).
any ideas on existing solutions or possible workarounds?
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I wouldn't try this.
I cannot think of any easy and reliable way to do this. The problem is the phone doesn't have WiFi. So you can't get the phone and computer on the same network. If you could, you could use "Unified Remote" to accomplish this easily.
Possible ways to do this are with Tasker + Autoremote + Null ROM. Or Null ROM + Unified Remote + Tethering (though I'm not sure if tethering would share the device's local network with you or just it's cell network).
Problem is with either of the above 2 possibilities, there are too many parts that can fail, and you wouldn't want that happening during a presentation which is why I recommend not doing it.
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nikkobenson said:
I wouldn't try this.
I cannot think of any easy and reliable way to do this. The problem is the phone doesn't have WiFi. So you can't get the phone and computer on the same network. If you could, you could use "Unified Remote" to accomplish this easily.
Possible ways to do this are with Tasker + Autoremote + Null ROM. Or Null ROM + Unified Remote + Tethering (though I'm not sure if tethering would share the device's local network with you or just it's cell network).
Problem is with either of the above 2 possibilities, there are too many parts that can fail, and you wouldn't want that happening during a presentation which is why I recommend not doing it.
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Actually, having said all that, look at what I found:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.rozkovec.android&hl=en
If you could pair to 2 devices at the same time PC & your note 3 (null rom?) this could work for you.
nikkobenson said:
I wouldn't try this..
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It'd be easy to do and it'd be pretty cool. Just install NULL rom and communicate via Bluetooth.
Yeah, I pretty much said that. Though I did have to do research to come to that conclusion.
I've been trying to get this to work, however I cannot get the Gear to communicate with my Laptop, so it looks like you have to play the presentation through the phone only, however you you can't install that software on the phone.
More investigation required I think.....
thank you guys for your research and input!
so first way would be to get null rom and sideload a bluetooth remote to controll directly from my watch w/o phone?
is there a way without null?
thank you so much in advance
The reason you'd need Null is because it allows you to be tethered to 2 devices at once. Otherwise, you'd lose the connection to your phone.
Don't be scared of Null. I was, but I really wanted tasker and autovoice/autoremote so I dove in. Null comes with the stock launcher so you're actually not losing anything. You have all of the same features you have now, plus much much more.
This is possible using tasker & autoremote.. Do some research on the two apps.
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You have all of the same features you have now, plus much much more.
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thank you man!! this helps me a lot, especially that you told me about keeping the stock launche. i was scared because i did not wanted to have tiny icons and fiddly touch controlls on the gear like on a cheap 50 dollar china watch.
i will try it
Yeah. I had the same worries. Good luck. You're going to kick butt switching slides with your watch. James Bond style.
DomZH said:
Hey Gents!
Does anyone know about a powerpoint presenter for the gear? this would be totally awesome if i could steer my presentations with my gear
i dont need the presentation itself on the watch, only buttons for for- and backwards (like media player remote).
any ideas on existing solutions or possible workarounds?
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Our product has Pebble support but we are thinking of adding more smartwatch support now that Android Wear has been announced. Check out SlideCinch at www.slidecinch.com.
Disclaimer, I am the Developer of SlideCinch and it is still in alpha.
Good Morning,
I would like to know if there is any way or application to put the Huawei in flight mode automatically at a specific time set by me.
I used tasker because it was recommended but the problem is that it does not "wake up the phone" because it does not allow you not to optimize the battery making that sometimes the phone does not wake up and therefore does not execute the action or maybe it executes it with 4-5 minutes of delay.
Thanks for your collaboration in advance.
Have you tried to convert Tasker to system app. I think it will ignore optimizing better then. It fixed my problems with messaging apps not waking up device.
keikari said:
Have you tried to convert Tasker to system app. I think it will ignore optimizing better then. It fixed my problems with messaging apps not waking up device.
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Thanks for answering, and you give all the permissions before converting it into system app?
antoni87m said:
Thanks for answering, and you give all the permissions before converting it into system app?
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Never though about those so don't know, I used to covert apps with app(Apps2SD), but I'm not sure does that work anymore(apps disappear). I have currently only moved manually one app(google maps) to system (for smart unlock to work better) and I didn't do anything special with permissions. Some were/are enabled and some disabled.
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You could also try to disable doze since for most cases it saves very little battery in cost of basic functionality(not waking device when needed). I'm not sure how well this works, since I haven't really bothered to do testing for it, but command 'dumpsys deviceidle disable' disables doze.(Or so I have understood)
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Never though about those so don't know, I used to covert apps with app(Apps2SD), but I'm not sure does that work anymore(apps disappear). I have currently only moved manually one app(google maps) to system (for memory reasons) and I didn't do anything special with permissions. Some were/are enabled and some disabled.
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You could also try to disable doze since for most cases it saves very little battery in cost of basic functionality(not waking device when needed). I'm not sure how well this works, since I haven't really bothered to do testing for it, but command 'dumpsys deviceidle disable' disables doze.(Or so I have understood)
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Yes, I have given him the permissions and I have made the system application.
Thanks for all your help, I will see in the next few days ...
Hey, guys - I've been scouring everywhere whether anyone has been able to perform a system dump of a Smart Display device. Since the Home Hub is using Cast as its method of being display I'm almost positive it won't be able to be engineered on old Android tablets or elsewhere.
However, any other Smart Display should be running the Smart Display APK on top of Android Things. If we can get a hold of that I think we may be able to start porting it over to older devices.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm tempted to go purchase a device just to test.
Sadly it seems there isn't much of a hacking community for these devices, and if you want anything, the best option is to simply buy the device yourself and get hacking.
I just purchased a Home mini for this reason, it seems you might have to to the same yourself for the devices that interest you.
(Shame there's no firmware section here, I imagine the few posts it would get would be invaluable)
Hey guys, did you manage to get anywhere with Smart Display APK?
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Hey guys, did you manage to get anywhere with Smart Display APK?
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Guys I have a Lenovo Smart Display under my hands. I found the hidden USB Tipe-C port but there's no way to make the PC/Mac to see it.
adb fastboot are not working and there's no settings to enable developer options
Btw this thing is indeed Android Things...
If someone has any idea how to dump the memory this thing I will share the package ASAP and the portings will begin!
I don't know if this will help.
https:// smartsupport. lenovo. com/us/en/products/SMART/SMART-SPEAKER/LENOVO-SMART-DISPLAY/downloads/DS504927
Someone shared this link on another site, not sure if the open source code could help or not. (1st post, had to add spaces to the link because can't post links until after ten post) Shout out to Shloime Rosenblum for sharing on stack overflow https:// stackoverflow. com/questions/53029653/android-things-on-lenovo-smart-display-or-google-home-hub
Hey guys,
I have attached the usb-c connector to my pc and have gotten the smart display in fastboot mode (by holding the volume down and applying power). Some fastboot commands work and I have tried installing different recovery.img to the device, but it won't boot them. I have also entered recovery by holding down the up volume button and tried to initiate an adb session, but adb does not respond. I have also tried flashing in qualcomm hs-usb qdloader 9008, by holding both volume up and down and applying power. I have tried a sahara img for qualcomm 625, but the img won't take. I have also tried extracting the imgs from the smart display via fastboot, but no luck. I think it needs to be done in adb.
Does anyone know how to enable developer options in android things?
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Also, does anyone know how to compile the source from lenovo? If I could get a binary of the imgs, we might be able to flash a modified rom (unlocked bootloader, root, etc).
Hey all, I am looking for a factory image for this device that I can sideload in ADB. Anyone been able to find one?
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Hello fellow androideans. I am wondering if anyone has gotten any further on finding a way to mod the smart display from Lenovo. I have purchased 3, to do some miss to. In this case, I'm sure I will mess up 2 before I get to my 3rd. I will keep checking back to see how we can make these things, our own.
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I have the source code, but I have no idea how to compile it. Any updates?
Did you happen to try the "fastboot oem unlock" or other similar commands? If the bootloader is locked, it will never allow you to flash any sort of image with fastboot.
It may let you "boot" an image, though....
you could try:
"fastboot boot <your_recovery_image.img>"
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Hey guys,
I have attached the usb-c connector to my pc and have gotten the smart display in fastboot mode (by holding the volume down and applying power). Some fastboot commands work and I have tried installing different recovery.img to the device, but it won't boot them. I have also entered recovery by holding down the up volume button and tried to initiate an adb session, but adb does not respond. I have also tried flashing in qualcomm hs-usb qdloader 9008, by holding both volume up and down and applying power. I have tried a sahara img for qualcomm 625, but the img won't take. I have also tried extracting the imgs from the smart display via fastboot, but no luck. I think it needs to be done in adb.
Does anyone know how to enable developer options in android things?
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Also, does anyone know how to compile the source from lenovo? If I could get a binary of the imgs, we might be able to flash a modified rom (unlocked bootloader, root, etc).
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I found the hidden USB Tipe-C port but)
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Hi nello,
can you tell me pls, where you have located the USB Port?
Thanks
Boris
It is under one of the rubber feet, Lenovo's website details it as a service port
I am shocked I can't find more people trying to port NestHome / EchoShow firmware to older devices. Google/Amazon should want to help people do this. It would not make any meaningful impact on device sales, and it would incourage platform growth amongst coders.
What about some other Linux smart-display... Something like that has to exist and be easy to put on old devices no? It would be awesome to have a custom smart-display capable of talking to any of the big-4 voice assistants, that we can run on old tablets and phones.
I miss the old days when a computer didn't come with an OS, you bought hardware and software from different companies. How did we allow manufacturers to lockdown OUR devices like this?
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I am shocked I can't find more people trying to port NestHome / EchoShow firmware to older devices. Google/Amazon should want to help people do this. It would not make any meaningful impact on device sales, and it would incourage platform growth amongst coders.
What about some other Linux smart-display... Something like that has to exist and be easy to put on old devices no? It would be awesome to have a custom smart-display capable of talking to any of the big-4 voice assistants, that we can run on old tablets and phones.
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I'm shocked no one has been able to pull the APK from any of these devices. Lenovo or any Android Things powered Google Smart Display is running off of an apk and theoretically could work on any device.
Amazon's OS is available here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=amazon.speech.sim but you can only download it from select few Lenovo tablets.
I miss the old days when a computer didn't come with an OS, you bought hardware and software from different companies. How did we allow manufacturers to lockdown OUR devices like this?
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We're hackers and very capable engineers. Most people are not. By locking most of these things down the companies are making it much easier for consumers to understand not to mention support at scale.
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if you press and hold down powerup an give power you cemt to the basic bootmenü
Hey, I don't know if you guys are aware, but the Lenovo Smart Display was recently unlocked, and the dump of the firmware is available at https : // github . com / deadman96385 / things_mt8167s_som_dump (just remove the spaces). System/system/app does contain DeskClock and AndroidThings, but they don't install/parse respectively on my Moto X4 (Oreo 8.0) directly anyway. But if you can figure something out, that would be great! I've got an old Moto G3 and instead of turning into electronic waste it could actually be useful.
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I'm shocked no one has been able to pull the APK from any of these devices. Lenovo or any Android Things powered Google Smart Display is running off of an apk and theoretically could work on any device.
Amazon's OS is available here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=amazon.speech.sim but you can only download it from select few Lenovo tablets.
We're hackers and very capable engineers. Most people are not. By locking most of these things down the companies are making it much easier for consumers to understand not to mention support at scale.
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Hey, I don't know if you guys are aware, but the Lenovo Smart Display was recently unlocked, and the dump of the firmware is available at https : // github . com / deadman96385 / things_mt8167s_som_dump (just remove the spaces). System/system/app does contain DeskClock and AndroidThings, but they don't install/parse respectively on my Moto X4 (Oreo 8.0) directly anyway. But if you can figure something out, that would be great! I've got an old Moto G3 and instead of turning into electronic waste it could actually be useful.
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Unfortunately that dump isnt really of much use. Its from the Smart Display 7 from Lenovo which is a different beast. Mediatek processor, and the original Lenovo Smart Displays and the JBL Link View are all Qualcomm. So the process to dump a ROM and the tools would be different
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Internal photos are here. Any ideas folks?
https://fccid.io/APILINKVIEW/Internal-Photos/Internal-Photos-3884185
Without being able to get the thing in dev mode or unlocking the bootloader, doesnt seem to be a way of us either dumping, or flashing, a ROM via the USB port. Unless this has changed.
Looks to be a 10-pin interface on the board, no telling if this is standard 10-pin JTAG or not. Might be a way to dump a rom though.
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Mainboard seems to be the Intrinsyc SD624 Audio Kit board, which has the wifi, BT, and Qualcomm SoC onboard. Probably if someone is able to get dev tools or manuals or intel on this board, that would lead to the tools to dump/extract a ROM.
Or, at a minimum, perhaps a stock / generic development ROM.
Hey Guys, sad to see this project is still on halt. I landed on here with the same idea of trying to put that Lenovo smart clock app/rom onto my old phones and use them as smart clocks instead of letting them sleep in a corner. I had a run through this thread and someone pointed out that the source code for the clock was available at https://smartsupport.lenovo.com/au/en/products/smart/smart-home/smart-clock/za4r/downloads/driver-list/component?name=Software%20and%20Utilities
I had a look at it, and I don't know how to compile it but I am now following through some guides to see the available options to compile it. I have zero knowledge of making roms or apk, and my coding skills are utmost basic, but I don't think it should be super out of reach in 2020. Lets see how it goes, anyone with ideas, please shoot them through!
Cheers
Sounds like very complex development...
I have 3 lenovo 10" smart displays. I purchased them because they are still in store display mode. This mode has the option to test all aspects of the display, gives sound and touch with no issues. I can get into bootloader menu. Only this is as far as I can go. My goal was to set one of these up as just a stand alone android device. Not caring what android version it was running. I thought it would be nice to have a full android tablet available, capable of all android features; by your bed side. If someone is willing to get this going. I would happily send you a Lenovo 10" smart display, so you can do what you like with it.