[Q] Wi-fi Speeds - Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
Wonder if anyone experienced the same problems as me.
The Wi-fi speeds I am getting is around 30 mb on my nook, although this is a reasonable speed I noticed that it goes down sometimes quite a bit. I belive the nook can only connect to the 2.4g wifi and not the 5g.
In comparison my windows laptop (2.g) gets 50mb
My Iphone gets 55mb and my other Windows tablet gets around 45mb
I now the Nook is quite old now so is it just not able to pick up high fiber-optic speeds or is there a fault somewhere?
Thanks

Yes, the Nook only supports 2.4 GHz 802.11n, with a maximum MCS index of 7.
What does that mean? Wikipedia has a handy table here.
It might look confusing at first, but here is how it works. The maximum data rate depends on three factors (apart from the modulation type):
1. the number of spatial streams (basically antennas, 1-4)
2. whether or not 40 MHz wide channels are supported
3. whether or not short guard intervals (GI) are supported
The WiFi chip in the Nook has only one antenna and supports neither 40 MHz channels nor short GI (at least it's set up that way in our firmwares). Therefore, the maximum achievable data rate is 65 MBit/s.
It can also be lower, if the signal is weak. You can check the current number in Android's WiFi settings, by touching the name of the WiFi you're currently connected to.
However, that's the link speed, the theoretical maximum that also includes WiFi protocol overhead. In practice, you can consider yourself lucky if you achieve about half of that for payload / user data.
So, if your tablet is connected at 65 MBit/s, you can expect a usable data rate of about 32 MBit/s at best (3.8 MiB/s). The final data rate can also be throttled even further by other system components, like bus and CPU speed, etc.
My phone for example also has MCS index 7, but supports 40 MHz, and therefore has faster WiFi with link speeds up to 135 MBit/s. And my notebook has MCS index 15, two antennas, with both 40 MHz and short guard interval, therefore achieving 300 MBit/s (provided of course your WiFi router / access point supports that as well).
Long story short, the relatively slow speed you're getting on the Nook is probably normal and by design.

Thanks for the detailed post.
I am guessing that 30 mb is quite good then in comparison

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Thanks for the detailed post.
I am guessing that 30 mb is quite good then in comparison
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Your speed is about all its going to get but in comparison to it being bad? Its rather bad...
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wi-fi actual speed

Does anyone knows what's the actual wi-fi speed, wich the Kaiser is capable of?
If the hotspot speed is 25 Mbits/s etc., will the Kaiser suports that?
Can anyone compare the w-fi speed with SAMSUNG SGH-i600, on the i600 according to http://gsm.mag-city.ru the speed is approx. 1 MByte/s?
Thanks
Tried your posted site for speed test, but it's all in Russian ??? Anyone know of a mobile site for comparisons.
Use that url directly on the PDA device it will detct the speed via UMTS/HSDPA or WI-FI:
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
Ok I got 140 Kbit/sec and a .686s latency from The Netherlands on T-Mobile 3G.
You should not use 3G when testing the Wi-Fi speed.
Davebravey said:
Ok I got 140 Kbit/sec and a .686s latency from The Netherlands on T-Mobile 3G.
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oops missed that bit, got 1003 K/bits on that.
Is it rue that the wi-fi speed available on the PDA depends from the CPU speed?
Davebravey, how fast is your WLAN accsess is it as fast as the TYTN II WLAN adapter or faster (than 1003 Kb/s)?
My main connection is 6Mb/s - 768 Kb/s ADSL, Using a 54G WiFi AP and I was less than a meter away when i done the test.
Can you do the same test but on your PC web browser?
Is it reporting the same speed?
I mean the same speed as the TYTN II?
Doesn't work on my PC web browser, connections too fast
Choose the option "larger file->1 MB"
still too fast
OK thanks, anyway do you think your PDA is brawsing with slower speed than the one wich capable of-6Mb/s are enough suitable for the TYTN II's wi-fi?
I find it a little slower than my laptop when connected to the same router.
Happy to find this thread as I'm seeing problems with wifi speed on my Kaiser. It works ok when you're right next to the AP but speed quickly falls as you move away, say 10 meters or walk around the house if you look at the Wifi menu the level quickly falls and the speed drops down to 1Mbps (about 140kbps on dslreports). This is not the case with the old PDAs I have hanging around like the Axim X50, HTC Galaxy, HP 6915 or the Qtek 9000. And yes I pushed the wifi slider all the way left for maximum performance.
I'm suprised that no review (at least those I found) mentioned that or maybe it's my unit that has a problem. The "x" is shot on the keyboard so I need to have it changed, will report back with any improvement.
The good news is that HSDPA speed is good, 500+ on dslreports and bursts at 800+ using GPRS Monitor, but that won't help if you're abroad.
Why are you all so bothered what speed you are getting? LOL
You hardly need fast access for browsing or even streaming a video
Not sure why you bothered posting this, but obviously I bothered to post because it's a problem to me, like not being able to stream a 160kbps MP3 file where I usually do it with the old HTC Galaxy. Now if we can get back on topic ?
hello yall.
I'm experiencing the same problems with my kaiser (vodaphone branded v1615). i'hve checked my bandwidth being at 50 cm ob the router and and i've an average of 700 kb. being in my bed (approx 4 meter) it falls at 300 kb. The problem is that i can surf on the web being on my bed + i can't run viewerVnc to control my desktop. Anyone has any idea ?

Wifi Rx speed too low

Dear all,
On TyTN II, I found something strange, either on WM6.0 and WM6.1.
When you go in Setting/Connexions/Wireless network, you can see some technical details, including Rx and Tx speed.
I have tested to improve performance in Power Setting tab, and even after a Restart of the TyTN II, no change on Rx speed : It remains at 1 Mb.
Performance is always :
Tx : 54 Mb
Rx : 1 Mb
Is there a way to increase the Rx speed ?
Thanks in advance.
Did you try on different access points?
Did you try on different access points?
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Yes... At home (Freebox), at work (D-link access point).
Same results...
Any idea ?
I get the same behavior after the upgrade to WM 6.1. I believe it to be a display issue as it certainly doesn't seem any slower, but that could just be perception. Would need to run a connection benchmark to verify.
On a second look, I noticed that initially the Rx Rate tends to fluxuate between 54Mbps to 1Mbps before settling on 1Mbps. I'm still thinking its a display issue, but I'll do some ore testing today (I noticed the Rate doesn't seem to change with the signal quality).
Edit: I think I see what's going on. This probably has to deal with the power management on the phone. When the phone is idle (not receiving anything) the speed drops to 1Mbps after a period of idle time. If I ping the phone from my system, the Rx Rate immediately steps up to 54Mbps and stays there until some time after the last ping (when it drops back to 1Mbps).
So basically:
Idle (no data being received): 1Mbps
Active (data being received): 54Mbps (or whatever the best speed it can reach is).
Data receive finished: Sits at 54Mbps until a certain amount of idle time has passed, then returns to 1Mbps.
So basically:
Idle (no data being received): 1Mbps
Active (data being received): 54Mbps (or whatever the best speed it can reach is).
Data receive finished: Sits at 54Mbps until a certain amount of idle time has passed, then returns to 1Mbps.
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Welll... You are right.
After some testing, when data are received, Rx rate change and go back to 1Mb when flow stops !
In fact, no problem... Just a value that is adjusted in realtime
Thank you very much for your help.
Laurent.

3g speed too fast?

I ran a speed test at mobilespeedtest.com and got this
I think its way too good to be true, is anyone else at this speed?
kylez64 said:
I ran a speed test at mobilespeedtest.com and got this
I think its way too good to be true, is anyone else at this speed?
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If it goes through a proxy it will screw things up. I once did a GPRS test (on an SE W580i) and got 40kbps with the SE browser. On opera mini it would tell me I was on 56MB
I did the test off and on now with around the same results
it says compared to other isps its about 9 times faster, i thought for sure there was an error, or just extremely lucky.
kylez64 said:
I did the test off and on now with around the same results
it says compared to other isps its about 9 times faster, i thought for sure there was an error, or just extremely lucky.
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try some other speed test site
mobilespeedtest.com says my 3g speed is 11907 Kbps oO
lukluk says my max speed is 619 Kbps
Xtreme lab's speedtest app says my d/l speed is 447 Kbits/s
speed testing - the badass way
Okay if you want to do this right, first turn off any compression you may have enabled in Connections. Tether up a laptop with wmwifirouter (grab a trial). Might as well turn up your wifi strength on the phone but that may not matter. On the computer make sure you've got no crap running in the background that uses bandwidth including IM and p2p obviously on either the phone or the computer. Fire up a browser and do multiple tests from multiple servers on http://speakeasy.net/speedtest.
When you're done, for good measure, repeat but tethering through usb not wifi. I believe wifi may be faster than wifi and it does matter when you're testing a connection with possible but very unlikely throughput in the neighborhood of six bonded T1 lines.
Doug
edit: Sometimes carriers and ISPs cheat on their customers' bandwidth testing by packet bursting, shaping, throttling and proxy tricks. Since you're seeing insane (and most likely erroneous) speed results and if you want to bother getting to the bottom of this, in addition or instead of doing what I said, tether up with your computer, install this little simple bandwidth meter (on the computer) which I attached and download this 256.5MB copy of OpenBSD from this mirror on your computer:
ftp://filedump.se.rit.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.5/amd64/install45.iso
And watch your bandwidth meter. Also fire up your best stopwatch and clock the full download and do some math to get the speed.
While you're at it figure out a way to upload a >10MB file somewhere and clock that too. Be advised your throughput testing may be confounded by the time of day and your carrier's network saturation in addition to your signal strength which might vary if you've got your laptop screen in between your phone and the path to the nearest tower.
Wow I guess I turned this into a big project.
edit: if you don't have access to another machine or are too lazy to do the tethering thing at least use dslreports/mspeed to download a 1MB test as opposed to mobilespeedtest.com's 512KB.
d0ugie said:
Okay if you want to do this right, first turn off any compression you may have enabled in Connections. Tether up a laptop with wmwifirouter (grab a trial). Might as well turn up your wifi strength on the phone but that may not matter. On the computer make sure you've got no crap running in the background that uses bandwidth including IM and p2p obviously on either the phone or the computer. Fire up a browser and do multiple tests from multiple servers on http://speakeasy.net/speedtest.
When you're done, for good measure, repeat but tethering through usb not wifi. I believe wifi may be faster than wifi and it does matter when you're testing a connection with possible but very unlikely throughput in the neighborhood of six bonded T1 lines.
Doug
edit: Sometimes carriers and ISPs cheat on their customers' bandwidth testing by packet bursting, shaping, throttling and proxy tricks. Since you're seeing insane (and most likely erroneous) speed results and if you want to bother getting to the bottom of this, in addition or instead of doing what I said, tether up with your computer, install this little simple bandwidth meter (on the computer) which I attached and download this 256.5MB copy of OpenBSD from this mirror on your computer:
ftp://filedump.se.rit.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.5/amd64/install45.iso
And watch your bandwidth meter. Also fire up your best stopwatch and clock the full download and do some math to get the speed.
While you're at it figure out a way to upload a >10MB file somewhere and clock that too. Be advised your throughput testing may be confounded by the time of day and your carrier's network saturation in addition to your signal strength which might vary if you've got your laptop screen in between your phone and the path to the nearest tower.
Wow I guess I turned this into a big project.
edit: if you don't have access to another machine or are too lazy to do the tethering thing at least use dslreports/mspeed to download a 1MB test as opposed to mobilespeedtest.com's 512KB.
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well I did this and got around 1-2 mbps witch is still very good for me
one can always dream though lol

[Q] "slow" Wireless AC speeds

I say slow because they are much slower that a Galaxy S4 and Note 3. At work today we were testing out a Belkin AC router to a cable modem. Using the Speedtest.net app the galaxy's were reliably hitting 200-210 Mbs download speeds. My new One was only able to muster 95Mbs down. I come home and connect to my ASUS N66 router and I'm able to hit 104Mbs reliably. What gives? This makes no sense to me. I verified I had a 433 Mbs link when on the AC router at work, same as the Samsungs, we were all in the same location I even tried standing where they were and holding the phone differently in-case I was blocking the antenna. I never expected to be able to get 104 down at home standing one room and 30 feet for the router. Is there something weird going on with the app maybe?
petersbc said:
I say slow because they are much slower that a Galaxy S4 and Note 3. At work today we were testing out a Belkin AC router to a cable modem. Using the Speedtest.net app the galaxy's were reliably hitting 200-210 Mbs download speeds. My new One was only able to muster 95Mbs down. I come home and connect to my ASUS N66 router and I'm able to hit 104Mbs reliably. What gives? This makes no sense to me. I verified I had a 433 Mbs link when on the AC router at work, same as the Samsungs, we were all in the same location I even tried standing where they were and holding the phone differently in-case I was blocking the antenna. I never expected to be able to get 104 down at home standing one room and 30 feet for the router. Is there something weird going on with the app maybe?
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In WiFi advanced settings, disable WiFi optimization - other uses stated it helped them to increase the speeds.
Settings>WiFi>Advanced
davebugyi said:
In WiFi advanced settings, disable WiFi optimization - other uses stated it helped them to increase the speeds.
Settings>WiFi>Advanced
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Thanks I read that and tried it to no avail. Speeds were better yesterday at 150Mbs and inline with a coworkers brand new ONE running 4.3. I believe it is just a matter of how HTC deals with packet size (windowing) and not truly indicative of throughput capability. The test runs for a limited time and the throughput increased throughout the entire test. If it ran longer it would climb higher but just how high is the question.
It's a matter of curiosity more than anything as I never need those speeds nor are the repeatable anywhere but in that test"lab" In reality I only have a 100M connection at home and with power boost see speeds of 150 max. I get 100+ reliably (5Ghz N network) to the phone from my main living space and that's nothing to complain about.
I will have to say the range on the ONE is outstanding. My desk is 100 feet from the AP and I was able to obtain 125Mbs reliably from my desk. I didn't have the chance to compare it to the S4 at that distance but I can't complain about that speed.

What wifi type (G or N) does the Nook HD use?

I thought it was wireless N but the download speeds from my home router (Comcast) are only about 25% of the speed I get from my Nexus 7 and my HTC One X phone. All tests were done from the same location relative to the router and within a few minutes of each other. I ran a 2nd test on the Nook and it was the same (about 11 Mbps vs 42-44 on the other devices.) I am running CM 10.2.1.
It's not a functionality issue but I'm curious why the Nook download speed is so much slower. The upload speeds were about the same (12 Mbps) for all three.
The Nook HD+ supports 802.11n and I'm quite sure it's also backward compatible with 802.11 b/g.
However, concerning 802.11n it does support neither 40 MHz channels nor short guard intervals (GI).
With one antenna / spatial stream, that leads to a maximum link speed of 65 Mbit/s, see this table here (MCS index 7).
The maximum bandwidth for user data is usually only half the link speed at best, rather less. So, with a link speed of 65 Mbit/s, you can maybe achieve 3-4 MByte/s.
The Nook HD probably uses the same WiFi chip as the HD+, therefore the same limitations should apply.
Tzul said:
you can maybe achieve 3-4 MByte/s.
The Nook HD probably uses the same WiFi chip as the HD+, therefore the same limitations should apply.
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Yes, the nook hd+ achieves at the strongest signal in the 4MBps range.

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