Stock Android? - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

After owning my Note 4 for a few days, I already miss stock Android found on Nexus devices. I'm really thinking about returning this and getting a Nexus 6 just for that reason.
Are there any good *fully working* (i.e. EVERY FEATURE WORKS) stock Android roms available for the Note 4? I'm not even talking Cyanogen here as even that is a bit too modded for my taste. I just like the simplicity of stock Nexus roms.

Rakeesh_j said:
After owning my Note 4 for a few days, I already miss stock Android found on Nexus devices. I'm really thinking about returning this and getting a Nexus 6 just for that reason.
Are there any good *fully working* (i.e. EVERY FEATURE WORKS) stock Android roms available for the Note 4? I'm not even talking Cyanogen here as even that is a bit too modded for my taste. I just like the simplicity of stock Nexus roms.
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Did u check the development forum? Already have a CM12 build up still not perfect but it's working and it's fast as hell
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Cm12 just landed in the development threads, it's an alpha, but pretty smooth so far. I'm sure development will be pretty fast.

ShrekOpher said:
Did u check the development forum? Already have a CM12 build up still not perfect but it's working and it's fast as hell
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As I mentioned, I don't want Cyanogen. Just Nexus style AOSP.

Rakeesh_j said:
As I mentioned, I don't want Cyanogen. Just Nexus style AOSP.
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Probably not going to be made for this device since AOSP styles (like Nexus 5 and below) are from 4.x firmwares.
Going forward not backward. Cyanogen is the closest you'll get.

Why buy a Note to rip out all its pen goodness? Just curious.
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Gnote aosp ics vs. Gnexus aosp ics

Anyone here compared imilkas ics to the native ics of the galaxy nexus?
Besides the couples bugs mentioned does it seem as smooth as the gnexus?
Better?
Worse?
Would love to hear. Thanks
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It would be better to compare gnote official ics with nexus insetead no?
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Sarius24 said:
It would be better to compare gnote official ics with nexus insetead no?
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I suppose but I really like the debloated ics. As in galaxy nexus ics. I am assuming that the note ics aosp is still with touchwiz but everything touchwiz related wiped out but I still would like to know performance wise I'd its as snappy as galaxy nexus if not more snappy?
I love my nexus but I feel if I had what I have on my nexus on a note I'd be happier.
Also I don't need the greatest and latest from a nexus but I need this style ics which Imilkas from provides.
Hope you guys understand what I'm trying to get at here and foolish as some of you may believe it is.
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Someone said that imilka should provide Samsung with a download link, so they could distribute it instead of the official ICS.
Bugger me if he wasn't right.
Signed: one happy imilka AOSP user

What ROM are y'all waiting for?

I'm sitting here on Stock + Faux123's Kernel waiting for ParanoidAndroid to come out so I can do multi-dpi changes, and have the status bar tablet mode
qwahchees said:
I'm sitting here on Stock + Faux123's Kernel waiting for ParanoidAndroid to come out so I can do multi-dpi changes, and have the status bar tablet mode
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I'll likely stay on stock with a custom kernel if battery doesn't end up panning out during my normal work days. One of the reasons I always used ROMs like CM10 was to get my Samsung phones to be more like stock, so now I'm satisfied as it is.
Hope your ROM is available soon!
MIUI FTW!!!
CM10.1
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Going to stay stock pretty much. Will probably try a few kernels out once they get settled and mature. Ran PA for the longest time on my Galaxy Nexus and found myself always just using stock settings for everything.
I`m on AOKP right now
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I`m on AOKP right now
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How's it running? I'm planning to flash AOKP and use it for now, maybe even stick to it cause PA (in the past, especially with my old S3) has has a lot of issues, like random rebooting (oh boy!).
feedtheducks said:
MIUI FTW!!!
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This man speaketh the truth!
I want to give MIUI a shot, but I really want Paranoid Android.
Wouldn't mind a Liquid ROM also.
I'm waiting for aosp+ rom
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CyanogenMod.
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DarkShadowAy said:
This man speaketh the truth!
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So does your sig. :good:
I might just stay stock and add a different kernel later on. If I do choose a rom, it'll be cm 10.1 but I don't really see the need for it right now.
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4.2.1 then 5.0
Android Revolution HD. Same as stock but tweaked by Mike 1986, an xda legend. Also waiting on more kernels but love matrix right now.
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The "your phone has shipped" ROM
barondebxl said:
Android Revolution HD. Same as stock but tweaked by Mike 1986, an xda legend. Also waiting on more kernels but love matrix right now.
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+1! Loved his work on the Sensation, missed not having him on my tmo gs3.
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I'm waiting for AOKP to mature some then I will probably move to that. I just like it for the insane amount of customization options.
Bruce2728's CM10 roms!
COOOODDDE NAAAMMME ANDDDROOOIIIDDDD....thats codename android...anyone whose used it on the galaxy nexus will know how awsome it is..

[DISCUSSION] AOSP v. TOUCHWIZ

With the announcement of the T-Mobile and AT&T variants getting their first nightley of CM10.1 as early as this evening, I have to ask which are you going to run and why? (Obviously pending that we get CM on our device.)
By the way DEVS thanks for the hard work!
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Aosp all the way!! Can't wait for cm... aokp,carbon etc.
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Probably aosp... But it depends on what works (Camera and gps are a must for me).
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I'm normally a huge AOSP fan, but I don't know if I could do without some of the TW features on this phone like Airview and multi window, just to name a few.
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mjs2011 said:
I'm normally a huge AOSP fan, but I don't know if I could do without some of the TW features on this phone like Airview and multi window, just to name a few.
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That is a great point that is my same thought process.
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neemot said:
That is a great point that is my same thought process.
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Luckily I have a Nexus 7 for my AOSP fix.
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If the dev support for aosp on this phone turns out well, I may actually buy it. I'm gonna wait a bit and see.
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MichaelMcEntire said:
If the dev support for aosp on this phone turns out well, I may actually buy it. I'm gonna wait a bit and see.
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I would assume that for such a high end device, we'll see official support for many AOSP roms including :
CM10.1
AOKP
PA
Jelly Bam
Slim Rom
Etc...
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I love tw. Not really fond of the aosp ui
I love the 90s. Good times.
Although I love tw on this device I just flashed slimrom and it fly's!!!! Aosp looks great on this phone
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I'd really like to discuss some of the pro/cons/usefulness of certain tw features. I'll break down my opinion on a few and maybe some one can point out any better way to use these features or things I didn't consider
Air view-mostly useless Imo. Any info air view gives is faster to obtain by simply clicking.
Smart scroll- awful . Buggy as hell the only way I've gotten it to half way work is by setting it up to go by phone tilt and even then it randomly scrolls at times. Also you have to use the Internet app instead of Chrome and really who wants to do that?
Smart stay-pretty good feature imo. Only thing bad about it is it doesn't work great in low light.
Multi Window-one of the best features on phone only downside is the limited number of apps it supports.
Air gesture- hit and miss here some features are innovative and very useful some is pointless and stupid.
I have found quick glance and air jump very useful (air jump is a way better way of scrolling then smart scroll) the other features are easier to do by touching the screen so seem pretty pointless.
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mysongranhills said:
I'd really like to discuss some of the pro/cons/usefulness of certain tw features. I'll break down my opinion on a few and maybe some one can point out any better way to use these features or things I didn't consider
Air view-mostly useless Imo. Any info air view gives is faster to obtain by simply clicking.
Smart scroll- awful . Buggy as hell the only way I've gotten it to half way work is by setting it up to go by phone tilt and even then it randomly scrolls at times. Also you have to use the Internet app instead of Chrome and really who wants to do that?
Smart stay-pretty good feature imo. Only thing bad about it is it doesn't work great in low light.
Multi Window-one of the best features on phone only downside is the limited number of apps it supports.
Air gesture- hit and miss here some features are innovative and very useful some is pointless and stupid.
I have found quick glance and air jump very useful (air jump is a way better way of scrolling then smart scroll) the other features are easier to do by touching the screen so seem pretty pointless.
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Fyi if you're rooted you can use all apps in multi window by using the multi window manager app.
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mjs2011 said:
Fyi if you're rooted you can use all apps in multi window by using the multi window manager
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Did not know that! I am rooted will Definitely check that out. Going to be hard to choose asop vs tw when I flash a custom rom. Most tw features are pointless marketing crap but it will be hard to live with out the innovative useful tw features. Wish there was a way to get cm so I can easily theme and customize everything but keep some tw stuff.
Had same issue when I had HTC inspire. Went asop then (as opposed to Sense Rom)
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I hear you. I used to only go AOSP for the longest time, but TW has really grown on me. It probably helped that AOSP was never that stable on the E4GT.
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mjs2011 said:
I'm normally a huge AOSP fan, but I don't know if I could do without some of the TW features on this phone like Airview and multi window, just to name a few.
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Agreed..just to cool to lose. And not to mention the wow factor. Tw baby..
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mjs2011 said:
I hear you. I used to only go AOSP for the longest time, but TW has really grown on me. It probably helped that AOSP was never that stable on the E4GT.
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CM 10.1 was my daily driver for 5 months on the E4GT. Sbrissen ended up doing a great job.
mjs2011 said:
I hear you. I used to only go AOSP for the longest time, but TW has really grown on me. It probably helped that AOSP was never that stable on the E4GT.
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^this.
I have been an AOSP guy for 3+ years. I have to say this newest version of TW is quite impressive compared to previous releases. Considering I have been using AOSP on a Nexus I just dont think I will be happy with it on this phone. AOSP was a just an overall let down on my wife's E4GT, it would have to be a vast improvement on that for me to even consider it.
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Highway 55 said:
^this.
I have been an AOSP guy for 3+ years. I have to say this newest version of TW is quite impressive compared to previous releases. Considering I have been using AOSP on a Nexus I just dont think I will be happy with it on this phone. AOSP was a just an overall let down on my wife's E4GT, it would have to be a vast improvement on that for me to even consider it.
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Pretty much this right here with me as well right now. The problem is I would love a Stock TW rom that's been slimmed down quite a bit but still has things like AirView and Multi-Window in it. I will however give it some time to see how good the AOSP roms work for the S4 the E4GT roms were nice we has awesome devs but I have to admit some were just lacking very badly in terms of things not working right at times.
cidica said:
Pretty much this right here with me as well right now. The problem is I would love a Stock TW rom that's been slimmed down quite a bit but still has things like AirView and Multi-Window in it. I will however give it some time to see how good the AOSP roms work for the S4 the E4GT roms were nice we has awesome devs but I have to admit some were just lacking very badly in terms of things not working right at times.
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ForceROM has most of the bloat removed, but you can still utilize all of the Samsung wizardry like airview, multi window, etc...
IMO, the most polished AOSP/CM ROMs on E4GT wouldn't have even qualified for Alpha status on a Nexus device. That is not meant to be an insult to the devs at all. It is just hard to make AOSP play well on Galaxy devices.
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You may not have to settle for one or the other...
Lead CyanogenMod developer and creator Steve Kondik has made an important announcement that will make Galaxy S4 owners leap with joy.
The custom ROM project is currently available in an experimental, nightly build for the T-Mobile version of the Samsung flagship smartphone. Moreover, the custom ROM is going to support Android’s hover events meaning that they’ll be open to developers to think of cool new software features in the line of Samsung’s Air View. Steve Kondik notes that there are “a few rough edges”, but as they get ironed out “in short order”, CyanogenMod 10.1 for the Galaxy S4 will be more than good enough for a daily driver.

I see no reason to run a custom ROM on this awesome phone!

Honestly for me personally, the stock MDL ROM with some tweaks/KT-SGS4 Kernel/mods is freakn smooooothh as heck! I see no need for a custom ROM... yet! So far I'm loving this phone and I've only had it for a day, can;t wait for that next update hopefully we get it soon to fix some stuff. Other than that, this thing is smooth as butter!
I haven't even rooted mine yet and it's been over a week. I usually root the first day or two.
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I kinda agree... Except there are some cool root apps... And I wanted to uninstall a bunch of bloat apps.
That's why I went with team Sonic's freegs4.... It just like stock with some basic tweaks and some apps are uninstallable.
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I will agree that this phone offers the best stock experience I've ever had. If you're a tweaker like me though, custom ROM's are a must. I hightly recommend Blu Kuban. AOSP ROM's are also quite enjoyable, especially with Halo.
Also, man I wish the Hyperdrive ROM that's out for the Verizon variant would make its way to us. That ROM looks amazing.
Dont U Wanna Get Rid Of The Boatwear? And Have a Longer Last Battery? And More Faster Phone? Thats All In Root And Roms My Friend
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You think you got something smooth, run a custom rom with the tweaks, you will not go stock again. It is up you. You can always go back to stock, run WanamLite, Basically stock with the tweaks, super fast, and just as stable. Sorry, but you are missing out.
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You think you got something smooth, run a custom rom with the tweaks, you will not go stock again. It is up you. You can always go back to stock, run WanamLite, Basically stock with the tweaks, super fast, and just as stable. Sorry, but you are missing out.
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WanamLite Rom? For Sprint S4? Where Is That at?
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Son Rise said:
WanamLite Rom? For Sprint S4? Where Is That at?
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It's not a Sprint rom. It's am international rom. I'm guessing he used the app trick.
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Yeah stock on the phone lagged pretty bad. Team sonics ROM fixed that up .
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You're all fricken crazy. Lol. Why run a custom ROM? Get rid of bloatware, get rid of a lot of lag, use custom PRL's when Sprint's amazing service does what it does, enhance the experience, increase the terrible battery life, install AOSP, etc... But that's just me.
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Delakit said:
You're all fricken crazy. Lol. Why run a custom ROM? Get rid of bloatware, get rid of a lot of lag, use custom PRL's when Sprint's amazing service does what it does, enhance the experience, increase the terrible battery life, install AOSP, etc... But that's just me.
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YOU'RE the crazy one IMO!! Why run an AOSP ROM and get rid of all the features that make the S4.... the S4 lol.
Joe0113 said:
YOU'RE the crazy one IMO!! Why run an AOSP ROM and get rid of all the features that make the S4.... the S4 lol.
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Lol, some of us bought it for the hardware - I think the whole eye watching thing is gimmick, and the pedometer is consistently off. AOSP really delivers in terms of speed and customization, which many desire. Speed + Customization > Gimmicks.
I'd also like to add that I'm still running stock so....
+1 stock. I like gimmicks
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TouchWiz features + AOSP Feel= Win haha I'm sure we aren't too far away from that
Every person commenting in this thread I think is why we all belong to XDA Developers. Do what you will with your device and enjoy it, we have many options available to us, thanks to all the great developers here. It personally took me a month to root my phone. And right now I can't really imagine having a AOSP ROM on it.
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Absolutely no ASOP for me and definitely no CM but that's just me. If I were buying strictly for the hardware, I might very well have gone a different route. I bought for the hardware and the software.
GiantJay said:
Every person commenting in this thread I think is why we all belong to XDA Developers. Do what you will with your device and enjoy it, we have many options available to us, thanks to all the great developers here.
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Let's all hug. :highfive:
Just like life you can live life the way it is or tweak it and make it your own life the way u want with the options available.
can i root after i get my SG4 flashed from US Cellular to Criket without messing up the flash.
Also Can i install custom Roms after i get my SG4 flashed to criket without messing up the flash.
once im flashed and running on criket i am too scared to mess it up
please let me know hwat i should do. i can't even find someone that can flash it yet. its very hard
im very sad i love this phone.
Cm/aosp is always smoother since there is no bloat, compare 1.5GB for stock rooted to 300mbs for an aosp based ROM. But the features are gone. And the camera isn't as good.
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[Roms port] Galaxy S4, Xperia Z and HTC One [request]

Hey guys, its an humble request. Can any1 port the stock roms of Xperia Z, Htc One or Galaxy S4? I know its tough, but any person with dev skills can do it ! I have no knowledge about porting roms. As these devices are on 4.2.2, it wont be that tough. So please try and let us know what you think. We will be more than grateful if sm1 does it.
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Do you realize how large the s4's touchwiz even is? Sounds like a horrible idea.
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It might be big, but galaxy nexus has it. So its not impossible. And we can always try out new things
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I don't think you realize what kind of work porting these roms means. These are huge projects, and not every developer that works with aosp is capable to do that. These roms have different frameworks...to name one of the major difficulties (This is not the same what making a nice theme) Anyway, Sense project has already been started. It doesn't boot yet unfortunately. And as far as I remember Galaxy Nexus doesn't have fully working ports.
forever_lol said:
I don't think you realize what kind of work porting these roms means. These are huge projects, and not every developer that works with aosp is capable to do that. These roms have different frameworks...to name one of the major difficulties (This is not the same what making a nice theme) Anyway, Sense project has already been started. It doesn't boot yet unfortunately. And as far as I remember Galaxy Nexus doesn't have fully working ports.
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Yea man, i do realise its a big headache to port. N it will take ages to port . but if some developers chip in, it might be possible.
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varshil said:
Hey guys, its an humble request. Can any1 port the stock roms of Xperia Z, Htc One or Galaxy S4? I know its tough, but any person with dev skills can do it ! I have no knowledge about porting roms. As these devices are on 4.2.2, it wont be that tough. So please try and let us know what you think. We will be more than grateful if sm1 does it.
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Possible yes, probably not. It's not just that Android versions have to be same, the hardware has to be similar too. Even then it would need months of work, experimenting, etc. Optimus g is almost the replica of the nexus 4 , even then porting LG ui is not complete. That's how hard it is.
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Possible yes, probably not. It's not just that Android versions have to be same, the hardware has to be similar too. Even then it would need months of work, experimenting, etc. Optimus g is almost the replica of the nexus 4 , even then porting LG ui is not complete. That's how hard it is.
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Exactly and here we're talking about three different and sometimes by far more complex ports (not to mention different screen resolutions). Possible in theory? yes! I do like the idea very much. However probability to build a daily driver is rather very low. Every single project would take simply too long.
writing [request] in the thread title doesn't mean it's gonna happen
Yup i agree, its a long way to get these roms working! But its not impossible and we have a pretty awesome devs lineup and an awesome community as well
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It seems slg1119 from the at&t optimus g thread managed to port htc sense 5.0 and make it boot but, besides touch everything else doesn't work. It's a start and maybe someone could port that for the nexus 4.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2353971
there are a lot of proprietary stuff in those roms. it's not gonna happen. use icon packs, 3rd party lockscreen apps etc.. to replicate a sense or touchwiz feel, but you'll never get those air gesture, smart stay and what else features.
i respect that some people like those OEM skins, but i know i would never flash a sense or touchwiz rom even if there were totally bug free ports available for my nexus. Since the galaxy nexus days, it's clean vanilla for me all the way.
A sense 5 port would be cool
if we can get s4 camera feature only is that possible or htc's
It would be cooler to be able to port the actual apps to the nexus. Like porting the framework to work on the nexus 4 ROMs. I personally do not need all that bloatware from Samsung/Sony or HTC.
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