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Hi all,
Hoping someone can help please. Just took delivery of my z1 and the pictures look absolutely terrible. It's current set to superior auto but every photo looks so grainy on screen. Anyone else experiencing similar issues?
mbath said:
Hi all,
Hoping someone can help please. Just took delivery of my z1 and the pictures look absolutely terrible. It's current set to superior auto but every photo looks so grainy on screen. Anyone else experiencing similar issues?
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Yes, I'm less than impressed with mine - certainly nowhere near dslr level as they were touted. I get a lot of noise on mine and they are over exposed.
If you manually focus with camera button then take pic, results are somewhat better but still disappointing.
Could you please post some of the pics you've taken please? The reason I got rid of my LG Optimus G was because of the subpar camera, been waiting for the Z1, so I'd hope it's not a lateral move on the camera front
pinn___________ said:
Yes, I'm less than impressed with mine - certainly nowhere near dslr level as they were touted. I get a lot of noise on mine and they are over exposed.
If you manually focus with camera button then take pic, results are somewhat better but still disappointing.
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Any idea if it could be fixed with some sort of software update? Proper gutted first time I've moved away from ios since the first iPhone
mbath said:
Any idea if it could be fixed with some sort of software update? Proper gutted first time I've moved away from ios since the first iPhone
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Yeah they had the same issues with the Z Ultra! They'll fix them after a software update!
I agree photos not great but potential there. Just need Sony to update firmware asap
See samples here on my blog. More tomorrow http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/sony-xperia-z1-mega-review-and-qx10/
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mbath said:
Hi all,
Hoping someone can help please. Just took delivery of my z1 and the pictures look absolutely terrible. It's current set to superior auto but every photo looks so grainy on screen. Anyone else experiencing similar issues?
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yeah same here...photos appear washed out in low light..also a lot of purple grains appear when attempting to take a photo in low light...for a flagship device which touts camera as its biggest selling point z1 is a massive disappointment...also the microphone did not work for me while connecting the phone to a headphone without a mike...ill be going to sony service centre on monday...hopefully they'll replace my unit..will update whether the other unit's camera is better...
Guys, do we have any informed update about the camera low quality issue? Is it an early release issue which will be fixed by an update or should I return my phone and get another one in a couple of months?
Please share your input because I am really skeptic about this otherwise excellent device.
Use Manual mode with Night setting
I've come across a lot of people complaining about the camera not giving out noise-free images like it's supposed to. The trick is to use manual mode. I agree, if you use Superior Auto mode, it's a miss most of the times, and when it does work, it gives a purple-ish tint at the corners.
However, If you use manual mode and select the SCENE to NIGHT, the images come out amazing and noise-free!
[DO NOT JUDGE THE IMAGE BY WHAT THE VIEWFINDER SHOWS YOU. A lot of things happen when you press the shutter button. The viewfinder simply goes red for making it easy to focus. The final image in the gallery is a hundred times better]
The Scene modes are one of the most commonly ignored settings.
I hope this helps!
Sorry. Most people just want to use auto mode and haven't got time to fiddle here and there.
The scenes help but they are not the cure in that the underlying problem of poor quality is there. I wonder if people who post either are using a different software version, or are being paid by Sony to post positive remarks.
Nor is it acceptable that we should resort to using alternative camera apps. This phone cost £600 or up to.
It should work as advertised on the tin.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
Did anyone face auto-focus issues? Sometimes the camera stuggles to auo focus..
No focus issues on mine, just horrible, grainy images. really really unimpressed with the camera. If this is a firmware issue then I am really unimpressed that they saw fit to release it in this state.
Example's here - note the complete lack of any detail, the grainy over compressed background. Zoom in slightly and see the over sharpening that has been done, the bike frame goes jagged.
The camera was one of the reasons I bought this phone, and in its current state, I declare it 'unusable'
My old GT-N7000 Galaxy Note 1 took way better photo's
Poor Poor Poor! Shame on you, Sony!
http://scratch.veletron.com/z1
Nigel
veletron said:
No focus issues on mine, just horrible, grainy images. really really unimpressed with the camera. If this is a firmware issue then I am really unimpressed that they saw fit to release it in this state.
Example's here - note the complete lack of any detail, the grainy over compressed background. Zoom in slightly and see the over sharpening that has been done, the bike frame goes jagged.
The camera was one of the reasons I bought this phone, and in its current state, I declare it 'unusable'
My old GT-N7000 Galaxy Note 1 took way better photo's
Poor Poor Poor! Shame on you, Sony!
http://scratch.veletron.com/z1
Nigel
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Hi Nigel,
I appreciate your frustrations. I have just moved onto the Z1 after holding onto my old but trust worthy Galaxy S2 and after the expense and hype surrounding the release feel let down by the camera as well. Suggestions seem that issues may be resolved once further firmware updates come about, not sure how soon these will happen though.
Anyhow off to take some crappy photos sine it's nice in Stirling today lol!
You up my way (stirling) too then? Be sure to stick some of said crappy photos online so the fanboi's cannae keep sticking their heads in the sand and claiming that the camera is good!
Nigel
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9984408866/in/photostream/
veletron said:
No focus issues on mine, just horrible, grainy images. really really unimpressed with the camera. If this is a firmware issue then I am really unimpressed that they saw fit to release it in this state.
Example's here - note the complete lack of any detail, the grainy over compressed background. Zoom in slightly and see the over sharpening that has been done, the bike frame goes jagged.
The camera was one of the reasons I bought this phone, and in its current state, I declare it 'unusable'
My old GT-N7000 Galaxy Note 1 took way better photo's
Poor Poor Poor! Shame on you, Sony!
http://scratch.veletron.com/z1
Nigel
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You up my way (stirling) too then? Be sure to stick some of said crappy photos online so the fanboi's cannae keep sticking their heads in the sand and claiming that the camera is good!
Nigel
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Yep sure am pal, we should start a Z1 photo shoot course one evening lol! Got to say pictures taken with the link above are not looking too bad tho
veletron said:
No focus issues on mine, just horrible, grainy images. really really unimpressed with the camera. If this is a firmware issue then I am really unimpressed that they saw fit to release it in this state.
Example's here - note the complete lack of any detail, the grainy over compressed background. Zoom in slightly and see the over sharpening that has been done, the bike frame goes jagged.
The camera was one of the reasons I bought this phone, and in its current state, I declare it 'unusable'
My old GT-N7000 Galaxy Note 1 took way better photo's
Poor Poor Poor! Shame on you, Sony!
http://scratch.veletron.com/z1
Nigel
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you are fooling nobody - I looked at the properties of your samples, perhaps an explanation is now required - idiot
didn't you know every image taken with a camera has embedded properties lol
---------- Post added at 11:04 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:01 AM ----------
http://scratch.veletron.com/ebay/
LMFAO
Confused. Com lol? Take it the pictures posted Nigel by the other user were not via the Z1? Waste of a post then and why?!
http://scratch.veletron.com/ebay/P1010314.JPG
something just not quite right about our poster Nigel lol
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I said the photos in http://scratch.veletron.com/z1 are my examples of the Z1, not in any other folder on that site. Go look at the properties in the files in http://scratch.veletron.com/z1 and you will see 'C6903' as the camera model.
Some numpty then went and picked up some pics from some ancient ebay auctions on the same site, and claimed that I reckoned these were taken by the Z1. Know your facts Geoffxx !! You are making yourself look like a right amateur!
Since taking the pics in http://scratch.veletron.com/z1 , I have added some 100% crops of the same pics.
Oh, and its no good looking at the pics on your phone, if you want to see their true ugliness quality-wise, look at them on a PC.
Nigel
i just bought my Z1 around 4 days ago, and i realized that the front camera really bad inside the room / house compare to S4, too much grainy thing...
please somebody help me!! im really noob in photograph, gadget, app, etc --"
and is it normal or not ?
louistot said:
i just bought my Z1 around 4 days ago, and i realized that the front camera really bad inside the room / house compare to S4, too much grainy thing...
please somebody help me!! im really noob in photograph, gadget, app, etc --"
and is it normal or not ?
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the front camera is only 2 megapixels and in low light conditions the picture is grainy, thats normal, my htc one was exactly the same.
louistot said:
i just bought my Z1 around 4 days ago, and i realized that the front camera really bad inside the room / house compare to S4, too much grainy thing...
please somebody help me!! im really noob in photograph, gadget, app, etc --"
and is it normal or not ?
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I've noticed that when you're viewing it to take it, it's really really grainy. But if you take the picture the actual photo looks much better. Seems like a software glitch. I've seen it happen in dark conditions on the main camera once.
Have you noticed that the photo itself turns out better than the view finder?
Sent from my C6902 using Tapatalk 4
HDR mode, very better.:laugh:
sofir786 said:
the front camera is only 2 megapixels and in low light conditions the picture is grainy, thats normal, my htc one was exactly the same.
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yeah, but its like heaven and hell compare to my little sister S4 --"
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I've noticed that when you're viewing it to take it, it's really really grainy. But if you take the picture the actual photo looks much better. Seems like a software glitch. I've seen it happen in dark conditions on the main camera once.
Have you noticed that the photo itself turns out better than the view finder?
Sent from my C6902 using Tapatalk 4
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yea i know, but how about the video call ? speechless -___-
Hi,
So I recently pickedup Oneplus 5. I had Honor 8 Pro already. I was planning to sell the Honor 8 Pro and Make Oneplus 5 my daily driver. I was looking forward to "Dual Cameras. Clearer Photos"
But the moment I started snapping some pics, I was left dismayed by the sub-par, borderline poor image quality produced by on the paper very good cameras! The photos were full of noise and a lot dark! I expected good low light performance from a 1.7 aperture lens but in reality, the camera kept pushing the ISO and shutter speed to really high levels in very good and well lit conditions as well!
The night shots were so bad I didn't even bother keeping them. Why does such a GOOD on paper camera take such crappy photos? The fine detail is smudged up. The dynamic range is horrendous, HDR or no HDR. The lights get blown out and the darks are too dark to keep any details! Most pics come under exposed.
I am really disappointed. And from the research I did afterwards (I wish I had done it before...). It seems its an open-secret and Oneplus aren't really keen on fixing it...
Please check this Album. I have taken similar photos with Honor 8 Pro and then Oneplus 5.
I might add more later.
Let me know which one is better...
https://flic.kr/s/aHsmc38Zwe
In all cropped sets, first pic is by Huawei Honor 8 Pro(H) & second pic is by Oneplus 5(O).
Photo 1
1 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
1 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 2
2 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
2 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 3
3 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
3 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 4
4 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
4 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 5
5 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
5 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 6
6 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
6 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 7
7 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
7 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Of course I have to sell one. As much as I like the dash charging, Better codec support, and amoled screen (night reading)...I am really torn to part with such a good camera phone.
EDIT:
Attached pics (full pics in Flickr Album):
1) Oneplus 5 Auto
2) Oneplus 5 Pro
3) Oneplus 5 Gcam HDR+
4) Honor 8 Pro Auto
i don't know dude those pics look weird n funky , n even if the op5 cam is bad it ain't THAT bad as shown in the pics , i'm really confused
To me the pictures looks ok, but I do not expected a professional picture from a smartphone camera :good: as I it always said to a friend of mine that always trolled smartphone cameras, if you want high quality and professional looking pictures buy a professional camera :laugh:
Sent from my OnePlus 5 using XDA Labs
GraveDigger176 said:
To me the pictures looks ok, but I do not expected a professional picture from a smartphone camera :good: as I it always said to a friend of mine that always trolled smartphone cameras, if you want high quality and professional looking pictures buy a professional camera :laugh:
Sent from my OnePlus 5 using XDA Labs
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Always an excuse to feel better about your expense...
Well. I am not asking for PROFESSIONAL looking picture. See the other phone I posted has 4 less mega pixels. An aperture of 2.2 compared to 1.7. But still it takes sharper and less noisy images with greater detail and colour accuracy.
Lol just go back to the honor 8 pro then? I dont know how those photos came up that crappy but I get decent shots on the one plus 5. Try usin gcam.
Not sure what's to complain about. It's a cell phone camera of course it's gonna be pretty crappy. What about everything else about the phone? I get 8-9 hours sot every day no matter what I do on it. I think that more than makes up for a camera.
I Took this with my op5 and it's better than all of your pictures. Go get a professional camera and a flip phone.
se7ensde said:
I Took this with my op5 and it's better than all of your pictures. Go get a professional camera and a flip phone.
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I think that stupid argument has already been raised by one person. What are you comparing that shot against?
If you had a Honor 8 pro. You would have gotten a better version of it.
So please if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense. I can also take great shots using mods and what not then tweak them on PC and post.
Edit: And if you consider complaining about poor camera performance on a flagship with 'Dual cameras. Clearer photos' tagline; then you should get the Fanboy of the year award!
All i see is SALT these days.
NHS2008 said:
I think that stupid argument has already been raised by one person. What are you comparing that shot against?
If you had a Honor 8 pro. You would have gotten a better version of it.
So please if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense. I can also take great shots using mods and what not then tweak them on PC and post.
Edit: And if you consider complaining about poor camera performance on a flagship with 'Dual cameras. Clearer photos' tagline; then you should get the Fanboy of the year award!
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Well you say ".. if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense." , so.. what did you contribute besides saying that your honor is SO much better than an OP and just showing up Pictures where I dont think that an OP5 would shot SUCH bad shots and also These are just random shots where also half of These look very similar to me.
Also,you know, this is the OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion Forum, so yeah this is neither some News nor a Guide and also no Discussion as ist just plain complaining from your side.
So to contribute for the forum and all the People here im going to Report this thread and hope that other People do this too.
It's definitely not a secret that One Plus has a terrible camera app. My $150 Samsung Galaxy J3 could take better pictures, especially in low light. If the camera app on the OP5 wasn't such utter crap there wouldn't be a very long thread on XDA filled with people using the Google Pixel camera app on this phone. The OP5 is never going to be a good camera phone. One Plus only supports Camera 1 API which is very dated and limited. Google introduced the Camera 2 API on the Nexus 5X which I think was running Marshmallow.
If you want proof the camera will never be fixed just look at the 5T. One Plus did not tout that as a great camera phone like they did with the OP5. One Plus also ditched the telephoto lense in favor of a low light lense because they don't know how to fix the software issue with the OP5 camera. Like you said on paper the OP5 has great camera hardware. But One Plus doesn't have the talented software engineers that could actually take advantage of it.
I can't see myself buying another One Plus phone because I think they are a terrible company. Whatever phone One Plus releases is based on a model from Oppo. The difference? The One Plus version will have better on paper hardware specs and the Oppo version will have far better build quality. The Oppo version will also take much better pictures.
The build quality of the OP5 is lousy. My first one was unusable after about 3 months because of a defective motherboard and even though the phone was under warranty One Plus customer service and warranty repair is so horrible the only way I could get a working phone was to file an insurance claim and pay $150 deductible.
I was sent a brand new replacement phone and right out of the box the headphone jack was bad. I had to switch to Bluetooth because wired headphones don't work--the headphone plugs fall right out of the jack.
Then there's OOS. It's the programming equivalent of a custom ROM that you might flash on another phone. I do a clean flash every time there is a build update because dirty flashes consistently resulted in problems. A stock ROM should not be coded that poorly but it's an open secret that One Plus lost all of its best software engineers and the talent drain forced them to combine development of Oxygen and Hydrogen (the Chinese operating system) under one roof and all the programmers they have left are from the Hydrogen side. The problem with that is that One Plus is a very minor brand in Asia so they don't attract the best talent.
There aren't even plans to release an official version of Lineage Oreo for this phone. The OP5 was only sold for 4 months. If One Plus doesn't care about this phone why should major software devs?
NHS2008 said:
I think that stupid argument has already been raised by one person. What are you comparing that shot against?
If you had a Honor 8 pro. You would have gotten a better version of it.
So please if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense. I can also take great shots using mods and what not then tweak them on PC and post.
Edit: And if you consider complaining about poor camera performance on a flagship with 'Dual cameras. Clearer photos' tagline; then you should get the Fanboy of the year award!
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I didn't tweak anything that's the default quality and far better than any of the pictures posted by the honor 8 on OP. And I will say whatever I want and I did contribute something for comparison all your doing is running your mouth. If you don't like the op5 then get the f*** of the forum for it.
NHS2008 said:
Hi,
So I recently pickedup Oneplus 5. I had Honor 8 Pro already. I was planning to sell the Honor 8 Pro and Make Oneplus 5 my daily driver. I was looking forward to "Dual Cameras. Clearer Photos"
But the moment I started snapping some pics, I was left dismayed by the sub-par, borderline poor image quality produced by on the paper very good cameras! The photos were full of noise and a lot dark! I expected good low light performance from a 1.7 aperture lens but in reality, the camera kept pushing the ISO and shutter speed to really high levels in very good and well lit conditions as well!
The night shots were so bad I didn't even bother keeping them. Why does such a GOOD on paper camera take such crappy photos? The fine detail is smudged up. The dynamic range is horrendous, HDR or no HDR. The lights get blown out and the darks are too dark to keep any details! Most pics come under exposed.
I am really disappointed. And from the research I did afterwards (I wish I had done it before...). It seems its an open-secret and Oneplus aren't really keen on fixing it...
Please check this Album. I have taken similar photos with Honor 8 Pro and then Oneplus 5.
I might add more later.
Let me know which one is better...
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LOL, personnaly it's the worst pics ever on both model.... Seriously you have use Zoom on all picture and save with 50% jpg for post on fliker? Even my first Numerique Cam (1024*768) take better pictures
I took a picture just for you
BFMSAND said:
Well you say ".. if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense." , so.. what did you contribute besides saying that your honor is SO much better than an OP and just showing up Pictures where I dont think that an OP5 would shot SUCH bad shots and also These are just random shots where also half of These look very similar to me.
Also,you know, this is the OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion Forum, so yeah this is neither some News nor a Guide and also no Discussion as ist just plain complaining from your side.
So to contribute for the forum and all the People here im going to Report this thread and hope that other People do this too.
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How did I contribute? I posted pics taken from both phones!
Please see the word I have highlighted above. Go ahead and report. Mr. FanBOY.
evilbait said:
All i see is SALT these days.
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se7ensde said:
I didn't tweak anything that's the default quality and far better than any of the pictures posted by the honor 8 on OP. And I will say whatever I want and I did contribute something for comparison all your doing is running your mouth. If you don't like the op5 then get the f*** of the forum for it.
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Hahaha...good joke. Please post the full image then.
Pho3nX said:
LOL, personnaly it's the worst pics ever on both model.... Seriously you have use Zoom on all picture and save with 50% jpg for post on fliker? Even my first Numerique Cam (1024*768) take better pictures
I took a picture just for you
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No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
NHS2008 said:
No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
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No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
> All your pics are ugly
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
> Not an example, just a pic in my kitchen without light (just normal light) and again compressed by casimage (host).. and this "poor" pic is x4 better than your posted quality pics. Even a blinded man can see that
We can talk without be only on the defensive way... If you're always right, do not write on a forum
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How did I contribute? I posted pics taken from both phones!
Please see the word I have highlighted above. Go ahead and report. Mr. FanBOY.
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Hahaha...good joke. Please post the full image then.
No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
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All those pictures are fake. Do you even have OnePlus 5 bro?
Can you please post one more image with OnePlus watermark?
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No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
> All your pics are ugly
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
> Not an example, just a pic in my kitchen without light (just normal light) and again compressed by casimage (host).. and this "poor" pic is x4 better than your posted quality pics. Even a blinded man can see that
We can talk without be only on the defensive way... If you're always right, do not write on a forum
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All those pictures are fake. Do you even have OnePlus 5 bro?
Can you please post one more image with OnePlus watermark?
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Here ya go...straight off the phone.
Edit: Added another pic...?
The softness of Oneplus 5 main cam pics is a known issue (aka water colour effect); I have compared the pics from OP5 with LG G6 and Samsung Note 4. (My opinion = Note 4 was best). I was as disappointed as you are now, i suppose. However, since I had no choice but to use OP5, I found certain workarounds. Hopefully they'll help you too.
1) ALWAYS use manual mode for normal photos! (no need to tweak any settings, keep all on auto. Manual mode apparently doesn't use the same compression algo that main cam does => sharpness increased & noise reduction improved)
2) Check out the 100% jpeg mod in the forum. It's really works
3) Don't zoom in on every pic. I know it sounds silly but it's like a psychological itch you must scratch - don't. On the whole, the pics are pretty awesome if you just enjoy them as they are and not analyse too deep.
Cheers!
PS : Apologies for not being able to post comparison pics, I don't have those phones anymore. Just take my word for it
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The softness of Oneplus 5 main cam pics is a known issue (aka water colour effect); I have compared the pics from OP5 with LG G6 and Samsung Note 4. (My opinion = Note 4 was best). I was as disappointed as you are now, i suppose. However, since I had no choice but to use OP5, I found certain workarounds. Hopefully they'll help you too.
1) ALWAYS use manual mode for normal photos! (no need to tweak any settings, keep all on auto. Manual mode apparently doesn't use the same compression algo that main cam does => sharpness increased & noise reduction improved)
2) Check out the 100% jpeg mod in the forum. It's really works
3) Don't zoom in on every pic. I know it sounds silly but it's like a psychological itch you must scratch - don't. On the whole, the pics are pretty awesome if you just enjoy them as they are and not analyse too deep.
Cheers!
PS : Apologies for not being able to post comparison pics, I don't have those phones anymore. Just take my word for it
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I had note 4 too and it took great pics.
Yes. I have found out that manual mode takes more cleaner pics compared to auto.
I am using the Gcam mod and it actually does some justice to the sensor on Oneplus 5!
I was thinking of using the 100% quality mod but I read it makes the file size really large.
I don't use the zoom feature though.
Thanks for understanding my perspective.
OP5 photos
Bought this phone yesterday. I'm new to Samsung. I had seen and read a lot of reviews and articles, and all were very positive about the camera, but in my experience its very disappointing. Especially the front facing camera. It's always blurry, and what is up with all that smoothing out??? Even when it's off it just does the same. I haven't changed any special settings. After looking for a solution I see that I'm not the only one experiencing this. Is this just a question of taste, or is there really something "broken" at the moment with this camera?? I'm really considiring returning this phone. 1000€ and this is the picture quality I get?
I paid considerably less than 1000€ a week after launch, I think I'd return it if I paid that much. I've had some good photos from the camera and also less impressive ones, it seems Pro mode is the place to be.
Yes the selfie cam sucks. Too much post processing causing the smoothing effect. I'm not an Instagram model, I don't need to look airbrushed.
The rear shooters though can produce some really nice pics.
It's the software that causes issues. The hardware is solid.
The other option is to download GCam which uses Google's HDR Processing from the Pixel devices. It produces really nice photos. Some GCam builds have Night Sight working as well.
You might find this link useful for installing GCam, it seems to be a bit hit and miss, the camera works for a little while and then just force closes every time it's launched.
melchiar said:
Bought this phone yesterday. I'm new to Samsung. I had seen and read a lot of reviews and articles, and all were very positive about the camera, but in my experience its very disappointing. Especially the front facing camera. It's always blurry, and what is up with all that smoothing out??? Even when it's off it just does the same. I haven't changed any special settings. After looking for a solution I see that I'm not the only one experiencing this. Is this just a question of taste, or is there really something "broken" at the moment with this camera?? I'm really considiring returning this phone. 1000€ and this is the picture quality I get?
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Welcome to the esteemed club of Note 9 owners! unfortunately a lot of us are already having this issue and understand exactly how you feel! there is a thread on here already about this: see below
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/galaxy-note-9-camera-sharp-t3835459
and trust me its annoying having paid so much for this device and then get this rubbish picture quality!.... and I bet you any money Samsung folks read these forums so whether its a case of "cant be bothered" or "working on it", no one knows!
I hear the point about Gcam download as an option but I really feel I should not need to download additional software to make up for Samsung's lapses. We buy this device cos we love it and desperately want it to work, guess Samsung makes them only to get our money... not rocket science who the real losers are !
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willhemmens said:
I paid considerably less than 1000€ a week after launch, I think I'd return it if I paid that much. I've had some good photos from the camera and also less impressive ones, it seems Pro mode is the place to be.
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Tbh I also paid far less. But still, one expects to get a decent camera for this price and all that marketing jibberjabber. How come all big YouTube tech reviewers praise this camera ?! Money makes them dance
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Yes the selfie cam sucks. Too much post processing causing the smoothing effect. I'm not an Instagram model, I don't need to look airbrushed.
The rear shooters though can produce some really nice pics.
It's the software that causes issues. The hardware is solid.
The other option is to download GCam which uses Google's HDR Processing from the Pixel devices. It produces really nice photos. Some GCam builds have Night Sight working as well.
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I'll give it a try.. but this is ffin low. That we even have to this..
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You might find this link useful for installing GCam, it seems to be a bit hit and miss, the camera works for a little while and then just force closes every time it's launched.
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Thx
william-johnson said:
Welcome to the esteemed club of Note 9 owners! unfortunately a lot of us are already having this issue and understand exactly how you feel! there is a thread on here already about this: see below
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/galaxy-note-9-camera-sharp-t3835459
and trust me its annoying having paid so much for this device and then get this rubbish picture quality!.... and I bet you any money Samsung folks read these forums so whether its a case of "cant be bothered" or "working on it", no one knows!
I hear the point about Gcam download as an option but I really feel I should not need to download additional software to make up for Samsung's lapses. We buy this device cos we love it and desperately want it to work, guess Samsung makes them only to get our money... not rocket science who the real losers are !
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I agree
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Now if these problems can be fixed with future updates that would be great, but is there communication from Samsung about this? And can this be fixed with (near) future updates.
william-johnson said:
Welcome to the esteemed club of Note 9 owners! unfortunately a lot of us are already having this issue and understand exactly how you feel! there is a thread on here already about this: see below
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/galaxy-note-9-camera-sharp-t3835459
and trust me its annoying having paid so much for this device and then get this rubbish picture quality!.... and I bet you any money Samsung folks read these forums so whether its a case of "cant be bothered" or "working on it", no one knows!
I hear the point about Gcam download as an option but I really feel I should not need to download additional software to make up for Samsung's lapses. We buy this device cos we love it and desperately want it to work, guess Samsung makes them only to get our money... not rocket science who the real losers are !
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So you don't have any third party apps on your device?
I'm about to return my phone and get my money back.. But i'm still doubting. .. Can these problems be fixed with future updates? Can we expect a good stock camera app in the near future?
melchiar said:
I'm about to return my phone and get my money back.. But i'm still doubting. .. Can these problems be fixed with future updates? Can we expect a good stock camera app in the near future?
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The only likely upgrade would be Samsung's take on Night sight, I wouldn't expect any miracles.
Guys, hey, HW is solid as someone said, i also have some issues with cam quality, i thing that we must wait till we have pie update and then see what changes. Like im working with audio eq and for example player FIIOX5 III sounds quite bad at beggining, but later firmware updates makes it much better. So i thing - wait for software update and then decide to do something with it or ask for refound.
DeVilio said:
Guys, hey, HW is solid as someone said, i also have some issues with cam quality, i thing that we must wait till we have pie update and then see what changes. Like im working with audio eq and for example player FIIOX5 III sounds quite bad at beggining, but later firmware updates makes it much better. So i thing - wait for software update and then decide to do something with it or ask for refound.
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thx for your input
It's been hit and miss too for me, coming from a Pixel 2 XL.
Things are considerably better since I use the Arnova's Gcam port (better than my Pixel 2 XL in fact), and it made me realize Samsung's app/post-processing is the issue, not the Note 9 camera/sensor
Samsung needs to go back to the drawing board and do something about that agressive, over the top post-processing. Like I said, Gcam produces way better, more natural looking like pics, and most of all, they're not blurry (faster shutter time with Gcam maybe?)
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It's been hit and miss too for me, coming from a Pixel 2 XL.
Things are considerably better since I use the Arnova's Gcam port (better than my Pixel 2 XL in fact), and it made me realize Samsung's app/post-processing is the issue, not the Note 9 camera/sensor
Samsung needs to go back to the drawing board and do something about that agressive, over the top post-processing. Like I said, Gcam produces way better, more natural looking like pics, and most of all, they're not blurry (faster shutter time with Gcam maybe?)
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Have you tried the one via official XDA
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-port-hub/
Is there difference with the Arnova port?
melchiar said:
Have you tried the one via official XDA
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-port-hub/
Is there difference with the Arnova port?
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More features like Advanced HDR+ and Night Sight are working for me with Arnova's builds vs the one you just posted.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-arnova8G2/
Can you post some sample pics? This phone is consistently rated as one of the top cameras on the market and I have to say that I'm not disappointed. In good conditions it's hard to say that it's any worse than my DLSR with expensive lenses. Night shots are excellent too. If your rear camera is as bad as you claim, perhaps there is a hardware problem? The front camera does apply a lot of post processing (which I'm not a fan of either) but you can turn most of it off.
TLDR: either you have an actual hardware problem or insanely high expectations, the camera on this phone is just about the best on the market. When I say that it comes close to my DSLR, I'm not kidding.
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More features like Advanced HDR+ and Night Sight are working for me with Arnova's builds vs the one you just posted.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-arnova8G2/
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I added a screenshot. Do you install the first one or the second one?
Edit: the first one force closes every time, and the second one doesn't have all options it seems, like night vision en HDR+
melchiar said:
I added a screenshot. Do you install the first one or the second one?
Edit: the first one force closes every time, and the second one doesn't have all options it seems, like night vision en HDR+
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That's the one you want: https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/gcamera/MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova-based_v.1.3d_TlnNeun_2.apk
If it force-closes on launch, that's because it was installed over an older version, just clear data + cache and relaunch, it will work
Reading some of these comments . . . The stock camera app takes fantastic looking pictures IF the subject is not moving. Try taking a picture of your kid or pet doing anything BUT standing still and the photo is a blurred mess. Wish the shutter speed was faster smh not holding my breath on Samsung fixing it thru an update
EclipseGST20 said:
Reading some of these comments . . . The stock camera app takes fantastic looking pictures IF the subject is not moving. Try taking a picture of your kid or pet doing anything BUT standing still and the photo is a blurred mess. Wish the shutter speed was faster smh not holding my breath on Samsung fixing it thru an update
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Use Pro mode if you want to be able to specify your shutter speed, I find the raw's are pretty good once they've had some basic touch-ups.
Got my p4xl 2 days ago, what is this garbage front camera?!
Faces loss details, whats happened to Google?!
Last p3xl was the best selfie camera!
Why f 2.0? Why 25 mm len?
Very disappointed, my op7 pro with gcam has better results, better battery life and half price.... Google this year you lost the game...
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Got my p4xl 2 days ago, what is this garbage front camera?!
Faces loss details, whats happened to Google?!
Last p3xl was the best selfie camera!
Why f 2.0? Why 25 mm len?
Very disappointed, my op7 pro with gcam has better results, better battery life and half price.... Google this year you lost the game...
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Cool story, bro!
Did you disable the skin smoothing that's on by default? Also the update is supposed to improve selfie camera.
PuffinNugz said:
Did you disable the skin smoothing that's on by default? Also the update is supposed to improve selfie camera.
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Disable smooth skin, did update
Sharpness so bad especially at indoor/low light
P3xl did great work, p4xl distorted it
Front camera :no shapness
avivasaf said:
Front camera :no shapness
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Haha really dude??
Think you missed the point with a front camera if you're taking pics like that with it..
tigercranestyle said:
And maybe I'm missing something as I'm not a photography nerd, but why is the picture only 2.8 megapixels? Can't seem to do anything in settings to make the selfie cam go from 8 to 2.8 megapixels.
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Definitely something wrong, that info shows it's in the download folder and only 265kb. That's not straight from the camera. Like someone sent it as an MMS and it was downloaded.
tigercranestyle said:
And maybe I'm missing something as I'm not a photography nerd, but why is the picture only 2.8 megapixels? Can't seem to do anything in settings to make the selfie cam go from 8 to 2.8 megapixels.
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This is the upload file to xda! Not the real taken photo!!!
Fille84 said:
Haha really dude??
Think you missed the point with a front camera if you're taking pics like that with it..
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Before you come to any conclusion, the point is the selfie camera didnt improved in px4xl it worse now.
I photo behind me not myself and this was the results just to show how is the quality!!!
You guy need to try more phones if you like this front camera...
tigercranestyle said:
Yep. Forgot to mention that also. Always seems to be the OnePlus folks... and not just here. Also Reddit. There is a lot of them.
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I switched from oneplus that knowing Google is better, not this time...
Sorry but i needed to believe the reviews even the front facing camera didnt mention there...
The rear camera is the best out there for sure, but why Google went down in the specs of front camera?!
The battery also needed to improve better, we are in 2019 not 2016,Google needs to make 4000ma batteries and more, this is one of the most important things for users.
Everybody says front facing camera is not important as rear, but you can see people at the street, when traveling always makes selfie photos, so you need to improve it also or not make it less better than your previous phone
Got to say I'm pretty impressed by the sharpness regarding contours on my end. You're definitely using the cam the wrong way, or got a faulty sensor.
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Now you have explain for the nonsharp photo??? Dont answer, because you dont have answers!!!
I just took three shots, one with smoothness off, one on, and one portrait. ALL of them look REALLY good. 'shrugs'
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Yeah... no. The front-facing camera isn't 6 megapixels either. If anything other than some upset OnePlus user, it must be user error.
The ffc isn't 2.8 megapixels and it's not 6 megapixels. It's also not 3.14159265359 megapixels.
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So try to shoot one photo and see the information you get, this is what i got. The phone is original bought at Saturn Germany
tigercranestyle said:
Yeah... no. The front-facing camera isn't 6 megapixels either. If anything other than some upset OnePlus user, it must be user error.
The ffc isn't 2.8 megapixels and it's not 6 megapixels. It's also not 3.14159265359 megapixels.
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It would be great to see a proof that you got something else
tigercranestyle said:
Test.
You're right about xda upload changing the megapixel size of the photo. I was wondering about that.
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But see the details in the original photo you are taking its 6M not 8M,strange...
avivasaf said:
But see the details in the original photo you are taking its 6M not 8M,strange...
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I checked in photos taken with my old px3xl details got 8M!!!another **** in px4xl?!
tigercranestyle said:
Have no problem admitting I was wrong about uploading to xda changing the megapixels. Attaching a photo of my post indicating that I was wrong.
Again, are you rooted? Everyone else had no problem with ffc but you. Are you rooted?
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Im not rooted! Again, take a selfie photo look at the details of the photo, its i inside a circle and tell me please what is the size of photo you shooted 6M or 8M?
tigercranestyle said:
I said I was wrong about the megapixels, but you don't have a Pixel 4 xl.
You're not rooted? Yet you're using three button navigation and your home button is missing the circle around the home button that has been present since the first Pixel xl. Pic is attached showing your navbar and what it looks like with three button navigation enabled on the pixel 4 xl. You're likely using a phone with a skimmed down version on Android on another phone. You're navigation bar looks similiar to the one on the Essential phone without the circle around the nav bar. I've attached a pic of that as well.
Also your clock is supposed to be on the left side. Signal and battery are supposed to be on the right. Pic is attached of how it's supposed to look.
Was going to say that your Google Lens icon is missing, but it's not available in Israel.
Anyhow, chances are is that you're using some random Gcam mod that you've posted about in the past.
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What are you saying?! In Hebrew the buttons and the clock are opposite to English, im using pixel 4 xl 2 days brand new, attached my system details!
Lack of sharpness is probably more like lack of focus. The front facing camera is fixed focus. It's no different than my Pixel 2 XL and both do fine for me. You gotta hold it a little steadier. Something that helps is using the 3 second timer so tapping the on screen shutter or the volume button don't produce extra movement.
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