Hi all. I recently unlocked my boot loader and installed TWRP and rooted my Moto X Developer Edition. Now I want to upgrade to kitkat but I can't get the OTA to work. I have tried flashing the stock recovery but that doesn't seem to help. I have also tried installing the zip via TWRP and via mfastboot. When I try to install from my phone it tries and then boots normally with an alert box saying something like installation failed.
What are the correct steps to returning my device to stock status? Thanks.
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PitaJ said:
Hi all. I recently unlocked my boot loader and installed TWRP and rooted my Moto X Developer Edition. Now I want to upgrade to kitkat but I can't get the OTA to work. I have tried flashing the stock recovery but that doesn't seem to help. I have also tried installing the zip via TWRP and via mfastboot. When I try to install from my phone it tries and then boots normally with an alert box saying something like installation failed.
What are the correct steps to returning my device to stock status? Thanks.
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if you're rooted and unlocked, just sideload via ADB.
PitaJ said:
Hi all. I recently unlocked my boot loader and installed TWRP and rooted my Moto X Developer Edition. Now I want to upgrade to kitkat but I can't get the OTA to work. I have tried flashing the stock recovery but that doesn't seem to help. I have also tried installing the zip via TWRP and via mfastboot. When I try to install from my phone it tries and then boots normally with an alert box saying something like installation failed.
What are the correct steps to returning my device to stock status? Thanks.
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search for one of these factory images vzw kitkat is already out.
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if you're rooted and unlocked, just sideload via ADB.
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Yes but what factory image should I use? The T-Mobile one?
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Actually it looks like Motorola is releasing the factory images so I'll apply for that.
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PitaJ said:
Actually it looks like Motorola is releasing the factory images so I'll apply for that.
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Hello, was just wondering if you were able to unroot and relock? If so, I'd REALLY be thankful if you could kind of walk me through the process. I have a VZW Dev Edition X. I already requested the factory image from Motorola. I'm just not certain about what I need to do with that image once I get it. The Motorola website says I have to use the Motorola Fastboot Utility which I'm totally clueless about. Anyways, thanks in advance for any help.
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Hello, was just wondering if you were able to unroot and relock? If so, I'd REALLY be thankful if you could kind of walk me through the process. I have a VZW Dev Edition X. I already requested the factory image from Motorola. I'm just not certain about what I need to do with that image once I get it. The Motorola website says I have to use the Motorola Fastboot Utility which I'm totally clueless about. Anyways, thanks in advance for any help.
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
You can get the Moto fatboot from here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kyqjzpjgamrepf1/fastboot.exe
Hey,
I downgraded my moto X to 4.2.2 to root, using both method 1 & 2 from this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515.
I had a problem where I lost my recovery using method 1 so I re-did it with method 2.
After rooting using JCase's guide ending with SlapMyMoto and updating using the OTA. I ended up with a "Verizon" boot logo splash screen.
I've tried reinstalling 4.4 using the method 2 from the first link above, but I still end up with the verizon boot screen. I don't think I installed a verizon rom as I have AT&T apps. I got both the 4.2.2 and 4.4 roms from here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0.
Is there a way to remove this, or I've tried to re-install the AT&T rom (did not work). Maybe at some point I accidentally loaded a verizon rom.
Thanks for the help!
I had the same problem after flashing the Eclipse ROM which is based on Verizon 4.4. I got rid of it by flashing the original bootanimation in TWRP (found here). Since you have an AT&T version, you will have a locked bootloader, so you should flash it in bootstrap.
esskayy said:
I had the same problem after flashing the Eclipse ROM which is based on Verizon 4.4. I got rid of it by flashing the original bootanimation in TWRP (found here). Since you have an AT&T version, you will have a locked bootloader, so you should flash it in bootstrap.
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How do I install this?
Can I do it from stock recovery? I'm not sure exactly how to install it
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How do I install this?
Can I do it from stock recovery? I'm not sure exactly how to install it
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So I was able to install it. But I still end up with verizon logo at the end of the animation. It's after the winter holiday animation
Edit:
So I was attempting to root my new moto X using jcase's guide and I had accepted a 4.4 OTA update earlier. I I tried to side load a 4.2.2 link above. That failed. Anyways I figured out how to downgrade. Everything went fine as far as the root is concerned (I think).
Only problem is that my boot screen now shows a verizon logo as well. But I think it's only for the winter boot animation. It's not a huge deal but it kind of bugs me and I'm curious as to how to fix this.
So far I've looked at another AT&T dump. It contains the same files as mine in the moodles.apk (the winter boot animation) including the verizon files. Only thing I can't figure out is why is my AT&T phone is displaying the verizon files.
Hopefully someone knows. Thanks!
Edit: nvm
I have been waiting for 4.4.2 before I rooted my One. Is there a way to backup everything before I do it? I know unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone, I am just trying to save the hassle of redoing everything if I can. I don't think there was a way to backup a stock ROM last time I did this.
This is my second One. The first was unlocked, rooted, S-off and running ARHD. I had a hardware issue and got the phone replaced via insurance (I bricked the phone trying to go back to stock) and HTC would not fix it because it was unlocked (should have kept my mouth shut!).
I am familiar with the tools to unlock/root my phone as of 4 or 5 months ago. Has anything changed or are there bettor tools/exploits now? I just want to run the stock ROM rooted and have no need for S-off.
Thanks in advance!
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You can temporarily boot into a recovery rather than flash it and make a backup from there, including your stock recovery. If your unlocking and rooting your one, why do you not want S-Off. It's a get out of jail free card when everything else fails
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I am on a Verizon moto x developer edition with an unlocked boot loader, custom recovery installed and I am rooted. I got the notification for the ota update. What if anything will this break?
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First, you need to be on stock recovery for the OTA to attempt to install. Next you need to make sure all your system files and such are present and back to "stock" (i.e. if you did the tethering hacks, renamed or replaced system files, etc, you need to undo that), and you need to un-install Xposed or the OTA will fail when it tries to install.
Since you are Dev with unlocked bootloader, it wont "break" anything, but the new bootloader installed via the OTA prevents downgrading your rom. So if you find an issue with 4.4.2, you're stuck with it, you can't flash back to 4.4. If you loose root, you can still flash custom recovery and install SuperSU to root.
Those with locked bootloader might keep root, but Write Protection gets Enabled again. With an unlocked boot loader, you don't have to worry about this.
Also, if you really want 4.4.2, there is a zip in the android development section with an unofficial sbf. Be very careful with what files you flash, i flashed the zip in RSD lite blindly (my mistake) and spend four hours trying to figure out why i didn't have data or any mobile connection.
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Also, don't take my word for it but i think you'll still be alright if you don't flash gpt.bin and the bootloader and you should still be able to downgrade.
Ok. Thanks for the info guys. I might just wait until someone puts out the deoxidized 4.4.2 rom. I would flash slim or cm11 but I really like the active display and the touch less controls.
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robwege said:
Ok. Thanks for the info guys. I might just wait until someone puts out the deoxidized 4.4.2 rom. I would flash slim or cm11 but I really like the active display and the touch less controls.
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For what its worth, I've been running this 4.4.2 rom (the odexed version, deodexed also available) created from a XT1052 image on my VZW/DE XT1060:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-moto-x-xt1052-t2639724
I did swap out the original build.prop with the Verizon-ized build.prop someone was kind enough to post on page 2 or 3 of that thread. It has been working great for me for the last week! Tethering even works on VZW w/o any extra steps.
robwege said:
I am on a Verizon moto x developer edition with an unlocked boot loader, custom recovery installed and I am rooted. I got the notification for the ota update. What if anything will this break?
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If that's all you've done (haven't modified/deleted/renamed any system files/apps or installed Xposed, etc..) then it's really easy.
Flash the stock recovery back to your phone
install the update
Flash TWRP back to your phone (or not....)
Done.
You won't lose root taking the OTA and flashing recovery back doesn't affect your user data or app installs/configurations.
4.4.2 is a disaster for me on my verizon DE phone....bluetooth keeps disconnecting, calls are breaking up etc. I would like to downgrade to an earlier release that works. My phone is unlocked and rooted.
What can I safely revert to...and how do I do it without bricking the phone?
ghstudio said:
4.4.2 is a disaster for me on my verizon DE phone....bluetooth keeps disconnecting, calls are breaking up etc. I would like to downgrade to an earlier release that works. My phone is unlocked and rooted.
What can I safely revert to...and how do I do it without bricking the phone?
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I would try a safe boot first. Long press on the power off screen button.
Downgrading is a dangerous affair. Highly NOT recommended.
There are ways, apparently... But most the knowledgeable members will say not to try. Unless its so important and your want outweighs the risk. The worst case scenario being a bricked phone.
Try backing up your data and apps, move the backup to a computer....and try a factory reset. Or flashing the firmware again with mfastboot.
4.4.2 is fine, not sure about your issues...but most are happy with 4.4.2. Your issues are likely app related.
Good luck!
I would recommend downloading the SBF package for your phone and flashing your phone to complete stock and then see how it works if you still want to downgrade after that you'll have to download a 4.4 SPF package and you're not to bypass the bootloader so you wouldn't just installed data system recovery and think that's it but like this previously said if you accidentally hit the OTA to update you could break your phone. sounds like your 4.4.2 install was corrupted. so I would download the 4.4.2 SBF package and do a complete reinstall
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Is this phone different as you can't just flash a 4.4 or 4.3 ROM? Auto downgrade?
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r.storm85 said:
Is this phone different as you can't just flash a 4.4 or 4.3 ROM? Auto downgrade?
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Downgrading from 4.4.2 can lead to a brick. There's supposedly a very careful way to do it....but anything can go wrong. Not worth the risk IMHO.
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Is this phone different as you can't just flash a 4.4 or 4.3 ROM? Auto downgrade?
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Yes in that the bootloader doesn't allow itself to be flashed with an older version, signed or not. Trying to downgrade the bootloader can result in an unusable device.
You can flash the bootloader with a current or newer version but not an older version....locked or unlocked, it doesn't make a difference.
tcrews said:
Yes in that the bootloader doesn't allow itself to be flashed with an older version, signed or not. Trying to downgrade the bootloader can result in an unusable device.
You can flash the bootloader with a current or newer version but not an older version....locked or unlocked, it doesn't make a difference.
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So I'm use to an evo4g and I could flash any ROM once I was rooted with s-off and recovery installed. It wouldn't mess with the boot loader at all. So this phone every ROM comes with a certain boot loader??
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So I'm use to an evo4g and I could flash any ROM once I was rooted with s-off and recovery installed. It wouldn't mess with the boot loader at all. So this phone every ROM comes with a certain boot loader??
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Doesn't matter about ROMs. They have nothing to do with the boot loader. And they don't flash boot loaders. But they made the 4.4.2 boot loader so it can't be downgraded. Why...who knows. But they did. Roms make no difference.
kj2112 said:
Doesn't matter about ROMs. They have nothing to do with the boot loader. And they don't flash boot loaders. But they made the 4.4.2 boot loader so it can't be downgraded. Why...who knows. But they did. Roms make no difference.
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Right so he can't flash a ROM with a 4.4 or 4.3 base? Why would you need to downgrade the boot loader if your rooted and unlocked on 4.4.2 already?
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The OP hasn't returned. So I assume he resolved his issues.
I don't know what happens trying to flash an older android version custom ROM actually. An error i would think....or hope anyway. On a nexus you get an error about the boot loader version...I think. But I've never seen it, cause on a nexus you can manually flash any boot loader you want. Older or newer.
I never flashed "ROMs" on my moto x. Just stock with xposed. Custom ROMs have issues, and no moto features.
The x really isn't a "flashing" phone. Definitely nothing like a nexus.
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The OP hasn't returned. So I assume he resolved his issues.
I don't know what happens trying to flash an older android version custom ROM actually. An error i would think....or hope anyway. On a nexus you get an error about the boot loader version...I think. But I've never seen it, cause on a nexus you can manually flash any boot loader you want. Older or newer.
I never flashed "ROMs" on my moto x. Just stock with xposed. Custom ROMs have issues, and no moto features.
The x really isn't a "flashing" phone. Definitely nothing like a nexus.
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Ya I jus remember on my evo I could flash back and forth between a 2.2, 2.3, cm6 whatever was available and it didn't matter. Like instead of taking a ota for 4.4.2 on my nexus 7 from 4.3 I jus found a stock rooted 4.4.2 ROM and flashed it. No need for ota or downgrades. And I have nandroids of 4.3 if I wanted to downgrade. Just trying to get a understanding of the ins and outs if this phone before and if I venture into rooting ya know
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r.storm85 said:
So I'm use to an evo4g and I could flash any ROM once I was rooted with s-off and recovery installed. It wouldn't mess with the boot loader at all. So this phone every ROM comes with a certain boot loader??
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S-off on the htc's is more "unlocked" than unlocking the boot loader on the X. With s-off, security checks, etc are bypassed.
I've posted the "long version" before, and I don't have time to retype it..so... The 4.4.2 update on the X changed the boot loader, gpt.bin and other things. They can not be downgraded. Attempts to do so will either fail, cause you problems, and will either brick the phone or set it up to brick if updating later.
KidJoe said:
S-off on the htc's is more "unlocked" than unlocking the boot loader on the X. With s-off, security checks, etc are bypassed.
I've posted the "long version" before, and I don't have time to retype it..so... The 4.4.2 update on the X changed the boot loader, gpt.bin and other things. They can not be downgraded. Attempts to do so will either fail, cause you problems, and will either brick the phone or set it up to brick if updating later.
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Right I understand the boot loader cannot be downgraded. But if you have root and are unlocked with a custom recovery on the x you can't flash any android version ROM you want ?
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r.storm85 said:
Right I understand the boot loader cannot be downgraded. But if you have root and are unlocked with a custom recovery on the x you can't flash any android version ROM you want ?
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Its been said over and over. No offence.
No. You can't downgrade the os after you've got 4.4.2. Once on 4.4.2....always on 4.4.2.
Well, you may be able to if you research on how some say they have. But you can brick. Its always a strong risk. If you are ready to buy a new phone in case things go bad.....then search on the ways people have done it.
But none of the guys "in the know" here would recommend it, or help anyone do it.
Nothing else really to say.
Good luck!
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Right I understand the boot loader cannot be downgraded. But if you have root and are unlocked with a custom recovery on the x you can't flash any android version ROM you want ?
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first off, I'm on vacation with my family, typing this on my stupid iPad whose autocorrect is driving me batty so if my details seem sparse, sorry, I have typed this info with more details before, search.
if you are talking about custom, 3rd party rooms, maybe... As it depends on what parts they flash, and what their base is.
But if you are talking about moto roms, then NO. Do not, unless you don't mind turning your X into a brick or paper weight.
Again stop thinking about htc s-off and what you were able to do as it doesn't apply to moto. Coming from an Incredible and Thunderbolt with s-off, I know how it's hard to forget. And trying to compare the two will cause many questions,
Due to changes in the bootloader and gpt.bin included with 4.4.2 on the X, under certain circumstances when trying to downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4 or lower, you could either brick your phone, or set it up to brick in the future when you take an upgrade. So it is suggested you just stick with what is on your phone once you get on 4.4.2. If you have an unlocked boot loader you won't need to downgrade to root.
I've read, (not going to dig up the link right now cause I'm on iPad) of some who had 4.4.2 but successfully mfastboot flashed system.img only, and if they went into app drawer -> setting -> security -> they were kicked back out to settings. This is due to system parts relying on the other components. I'm not sure what other problems were found day to day.
Additionally there were/are many reports asking for help because their device won't boot. The common thread.... They had 4.4.2 and downgraded or tried to downgrade.
I'm not going to go into every possible scenario, what might happen, what causes it, what might be safe, etc. the general consensus is once you have 4.4.2 on your X do not try to downgrade!
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The OP hasn't returned. So I assume he resolved his issues.
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The OP has now returned and I have not resolved my issues
The advice here appears to be...don't try it so I will either continue to use the moto-x until hopefully 4.4.3 fixes the bluetooth issues, or I'll use my older galazy nexus until Motorola/Google figures out how to get the moto-x working.
ghstudio said:
The OP has now returned and I have not resolved my issues
The advice here appears to be...don't try it so I will either continue to use the moto-x until hopefully 4.4.3 fixes the bluetooth issues, or I'll use my older galazy nexus until Motorola/Google figures out how to get the moto-x working.
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Have you reflashed 4.4.2 stock and had a fresh start? Cause there aren't any/many other reports of this. You may just need a fresh install.
My x has none of those issues anyway on 4.4.2.
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And have you tried another Bluetooth device. It could be the problem too. Just not compatible with the x.
KidJoe said:
first off, I'm on vacation with my family, typing this on my stupid iPad whose autocorrect is driving me batty so if my details seem sparse, sorry, I have typed this info with more details before, search.
if you are talking about custom, 3rd party rooms, maybe... As it depends on what parts they flash, and what their base is.
But if you are talking about moto roms, then NO. Do not, unless you don't mind turning your X into a brick or paper weight.
Again stop thinking about htc s-off and what you were able to do as it doesn't apply to moto. Coming from an Incredible and Thunderbolt with s-off, I know how it's hard to forget. And trying to compare the two will cause many questions,
Due to changes in the bootloader and gpt.bin included with 4.4.2 on the X, under certain circumstances when trying to downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4 or lower, you could either brick your phone, or set it up to brick in the future when you take an upgrade. So it is suggested you just stick with what is on your phone once you get on 4.4.2. If you have an unlocked boot loader you won't need to downgrade to root.
I've read, (not going to dig up the link right now cause I'm on iPad) of some who had 4.4.2 but successfully mfastboot flashed system.img only, and if they went into app drawer -> setting -> security -> they were kicked back out to settings. This is due to system parts relying on the other components. I'm not sure what other problems were found day to day.
Additionally there were/are many reports asking for help because their device won't boot. The common thread.... They had 4.4.2 and downgraded or tried to downgrade.
I'm not going to go into every possible scenario, what might happen, what causes it, what might be safe, etc. the general consensus is once you have 4.4.2 on your X do not try to downgrade!
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OK thanks for the explanation.
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