Hey guys, I just finished downgrading from Lollipop .6 back to 4.4.4 on the Pure Edition (US) and upgrading to 22.21.11. I couldn't update to .11 from .6. I have a some questions now that my whole process is complete...
1 - Is their a way to root the Pure Edition that would allow me to take future OTAs without needing to downgrade next time? If so, I am wanting to root my phone again, where is the safer root method? I used CF-Auto Root when I rooted back in November.
2- Or is the downgrade/upgrade always going to be necessary on Lollipop on the Moto X (2014)?
3- Can one make an unrooted custom recovery nandroid image by booting to the custom recovery from adb? If so, what is the procedure? I would like to make a nandroid of my phone before I root it, so I can have that custom image to flash back to if I need to update Lollipop the same way again.
Thanks for all your help guys! I really appreciate it! Merry Christmas!
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So I used rockmymo to get root. Now I read the unlocking won't void warranty (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538366) so I went ahead and requested an unlock key.
What do I need to do now to have a fully rooted phone and get the kitkat update? Do I need to remove rockmymoto first?
My general idea is that I should:
1. Remove rockmymoto somehow or revert to stock??
2. Unlock per motorola instructions
3. install a custom bootloaders like clockwork mod
4. Install supersu from clockwork mod
5. Get kitkat OTA update
??
Give me some guidance, this stuff is kinda blurry for me.
sdxda said:
So I used rockmymo to get root. Now I read the unlocking won't void warranty (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538366) so I went ahead and requested an unlock key.
What do I need to do now to have a fully rooted phone and get the kitkat update? Do I need to remove rockmymoto first?
My general idea is that I should:
1. Remove rockmymoto somehow or revert to stock??
2. Unlock per motorola instructions
3. install a custom bootloaders like clockwork mod
4. Install supersu from clockwork mod
5. Get kitkat OTA update
??
Give me some guidance, this stuff is kinda blurry for me.
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You can unlock your boot loader with Rockmymoto installed but you can't install the ota, rockmymoto high jacks the stock recovery and the stock recovery is required to flash the ota. Now saying that , there is away to flash the ota without accepting it, you need to flash the fxz kitkat firmware for your carrier but only T-Mobile and Verizon versions are available now.
Flashing the fxz will basically put your phone to 100% stock and which point you can flash twrp recovery and superuser to gain root. Flashing twrp requires a unlocked boot loader.
I would wait and see if jcase comes up with a method if maintaining root for kitkat, patience and wait for the waters to clear before you jump head first, it will only be a matter if days b4 kikat arrives for all carriers.
What my plan is to wait for the Rogers kikat fxz file to be available as I unlocked my boot loader 3 months ago and I am running the stick deodex rom with twrp recovery. I would have to rsdlite back to stock in order to flash the ota, not willing to lose all my data again
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So here's the deal, I unlocked my T-Mobile Moto X bootloader through Motorola's website about a year ago or so. I also rooted and didn't bother updating afterwards to anything since I had everything working perfectly for me. Now I need to update my 4.2.2 Moto X to 4.4.3 (or really anything >=4.3 just so I can use my Moto 360 that'll be arriving soon).
My question is, with an unlocked bootloader, rooted, TWRP 2.6.3.1, Xposed-installed Moto X, can I go ahead and flash a stock 4.4.3 ROM (for example from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-flashable-t-mobile-t2773675) and just call it a day?
I've been reading past threads and stuff to get back into the loop, but I just can'f find anything to answer me the simple question of updating an unlocked+rooted 4.2.2->4.4+ while keeping root. Just the simple question of, if I get a stock 4.4 image and flash it on my phone, will everything be okay?
I no longer have the passion and interest to constantly be fiddling with kernels, ROMs, and little hacks with my phone like I used to with my OG Droid and, to a lesser extent, with my Galaxy Nexus (plus I feel like it's gotten significantly less easy since those OG days).
I know (i.e. 90% sure) that one way to do what I want (kinda) is RSDLite/manually go back to stock without root on 4.2.2 and then accept the OTA, but certainly it has to be easier than that right? What happened to the days where I can just find a new Gingerbread ROM for my Froyo Droid and just flash it right then and there? Now everything is "go back to stock and do these convoluted steps."
(I'm sorry I'm ranting, I'm just really tired at the moment haha)
Thank you all, hopefully, for the help!
If you don't care about retaining your data, grab the 4.4.3 fxz and unzip it. Follow the directions for returning back to stock here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-complete-moto-x-guides-information-t2603358 but replace the files to be flashed with the files from the 4.4.3 fxz. Not sure where you got the idea that you need to go back to stock. Word of caution, once on 4.4.3 there's no going back to an older version.
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
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I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate version recovery again and then flashing supersu.
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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate vision recovery again and then flashing supersu.
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OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
RGNDI said:
OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
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Yeah that would work as long as your radio is compatible with the rom. The rom you shared earlier should be fine. Just don't downgrade to anything pre 4.4 as that can cause issues because of partition sizes (or so I've heard). But after that I wouldn't take any OTA's cause your bootloader would be incompatible with the OTA and possibly cause a brick. If I were you I'd revert to stock and take the long way to 4.4.3 just so I can get the OTA for when Android L comes out. In fact thats what I plan on doing if the Sunshine bootloader unlock is successful. But if you don't care about that then everything should be fine.
Hi all, I was wondering if it would be less of a hassle to keep my BL unlocked Moto X stock until Lollipop OTA comes out OR if it might actually be harder to install recovery, root, etc when 5.0 is on the phone? IIRC KK made some changes that caused hassles on rooting, recovery install for some phones. I have Dev Edition, thanks
Although lollipop is making it difficult to root, you would still be able to unlock your BL on lollipop. Since it appears you don't have a need to root right now, I would just wait until lollipop. The reason to wait is if you install a recovery or freeze apps, you won't be able to install OTA until you restore stock recovery etc.
As long as you have an unlocked / unlockable BL, you will always be able to install a custom recovery / root.
PsychoKilla666 said:
Hi all, I was wondering if it would be less of a hassle to keep my BL unlocked Moto X stock until Lollipop OTA comes out OR if it might actually be harder to install recovery, root, etc when 5.0 is on the phone? IIRC KK made some changes that caused hassles on rooting, recovery install for some phones. I have Dev Edition, thanks
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it depends.
With an unlocked bootloader we should continue to be able to flash a custom recovery, and custom rom.
However, there are several unknowns right now, including when will we see Lollipop for the X? Which variant of the 2013 X (Dev vs ATT vs VZW vs Sprint, etc) will get it first? When will soak tests start? When will the carriers finally push it, etc?
Then we don't know how hard or easy it will be to root. At first a custom kernel was needed to root Lollipop, but now it seems Chainfire has found away around that http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...w-to-root-lollipop-without-a-modified-kernel/ Until we see L on a 2013 X, we wont know for sure.
In any case, its always less hassle to keep your phone STOCK if you want to take an OTA. The OTA's need stock recovery on the phone in order to install. Also, diverting from stock can mean changes which will cause the OTA's pre-flash validation checks to fail, and the OTA to not install.
US Cellular is STILL on 4.4.2 lol 5.0 seems a hundred miles away still. Glad I'm unlocked, rooted and stock (Xposed Gravitybox) best combo IMHO.
I've searched and found variations on these questions in other posts, but I didn't come across any pertaining quite to my situation, so I wanted advice before I do something wrong and brick my phone.
I have a Sprint Moto X, unlocked & rooted, running 4.2.2 (I think pre-camera update). I'd like to upgrade to stock Sprint Lollipop (when it comes out) & stay unlocked & rooted.
My understanding of the steps that need to be taken:
1. Unroot my device
2. Re-lock my device
3. Flash TWRP and boot to recovery
4. Flash stock Sprint Lollipop
5. Unlock, then re-root device
Is any of this extraneous, or am I leaving anything out? Do I need to upgrade to KitKat before going to Lollipop?
I also have Xposed installed and I have tweaked the PRL on my device ... this shouldn't complicate the upgrade, right?
Relocking is useless, and unless you know what you're doing, flashing stock updates in custom recovery shouldn't be done. You don't necessarily need to unroot either, just make sure all stock system files are still in place.
Sent from my Moto X
imnuts said:
Relocking is useless, and unless you know what you're doing, flashing stock updates in custom recovery shouldn't be done. You don't necessarily need to unroot either, just make sure all stock system files are still in place.
Sent from my Moto X
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i have a sprint X and if i am going to update this is how i have allways done it with no issues at all.
you can leave your bootloader unlocked that is no a issue. but i always take OTA's and you cant take a OTA with a modded system. so i allways just flash my stock firmware package. that way it removes my custom recovery. Root, and all Xposed changes. Then i take the OTA and just reinstall TWRP, then SuperSU then what ever else you want.
this is the safest way i have found to update, the nice thing about Unlocked Sprint phones is we can easily Root are phones via TWRP and SuperSu.
just my .02 you can do it how ever you like but this is how i am going to do it when the OTA finally comes out if it ever does.
If I'm rooted on 4.4.4 can I just go to about phone and update it from there and lose root? Or do I have to flash a 6 rom?
I've sort of come to the conclusion that I'd rather have an updated phone than root access at this point. But I'm not sure if I want to start from scratch and re-download all my apps and configure all the settings again.
You will probably need to unroot first. If you are using a rooted stock Rom, you might be able to then update ota. Chances are you will need to reset and wipe at some point though. I'm in the same boat, I want the MM features. However, I will not give up root. I will wait for a custom MM Rom with root or just stick with lollipop and root.