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Ok I am not here to troll, im humbly asking and wanting your inputs on your most unbiased opinion.
So I have a tmobile line that is open for an upgrade.
Don't get me wrong. I am loving the big screen of the note 2, while rocking naked front massive hd display with only a tpu case. My white note gets excellent battery life thanks to its 3200 battery.
Now I can get the nexus 4 for free with my loyalty upgrade to get the nexus 4. And also free with 2 added 2 year contact with them. But this is using to contract another 2 years with them. And I must do a entire line to get this deal. (won't affect the phone upgrades tho)
Now my hesitation and dilemma here is this. I really wanna try the new blackberry Z10. Because it's new and I like being able to have something that isn't something that can be used as more unified social aspects. Nice. But I'm reading that people aren't happy with where they are now with the current buggy software to iron out over the course. I'm not too sure how long. And by that time, the new blackberry might be released. But then again, that's with every phone these days.
So in my conclusion, i've decided to go with the either note 2 or the nexus 4. The note 2 will be given to my dad for his retirement gift. Or I can just get another note 2 myself. (yes I pay for my parents and my bills)
So it comes down to this, I am a college student who is in engineering major. I love playing, moding, rom installs, and just having fun with the device. Battery isn't too much of an issue for me, because I do have a fast charger in my car and my office. So it's almost always plugged in.
My main attraction to nexus was their Google experience. Which I absolutely love. I know I can still the aokp rom to make it stock like the nexus 4. But these come at a cost of massive bugs and not stable for my daily work and play.
So my question is, can you relate to my subject and be able to decide on which device to go with? And is it even worth my time to go from note 2 to nexus 4? I don't care about the storage, because I use Dropbox anyways. I also have unlimited everything for tmobile. But I also need at&t capable phone that can be swapped for usage. (which works with my tmobile note 2, but I don't get lte) but in other hand, nexus can do both hspa+ and lte for att. And lte for future note 2 for tmo. Which I would love to use the nexus 4.
Yeah, I know nexus 4 is a hacker's dream. And that wireless charging is on my sight as well. What you guys think??
Go for the nexus 4? Or stay with note 2?
Also I do care about the quality of the screen. That's my main concern with nexus 4.
Push me one or the other to join the world of nexus 4.
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Honestly, I reccomend you get a T-Mobile prepaid micro Sim, and port your number to that. Buy the n4 for 299$ and 50$ a month gets you unlimited talk text and web
And 30$ a month gets you unlimited text, unlimited 2g and 5gb 4g. 100 miniuts plus 10 cents an extra. It works good for me.
You save a lot if money on prepaid as opposed to a contract. And you get the same coverage. You could save 50$ a month eaisy by using the prepaid plan. Probably more.
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hmmm, i don't know how unbiased an opinion you'll get here but anyway...
Having just come from a galaxy s2 I will never buy another samsung phone again, or at least until they work out their source code issues so that AOSP can be ported to their devices without the long list of bugs you alluded to in your post. The N4 has been a great phone for me so far, it's not without it's issues. The back's made of (non-gorilla) glass, the display isn't OLED (not an issue for me as I've come to prefer it, but some find it difficult going back to an LCD from OLED), no expandable storage, no LTE and a non-(easily)-removable battery.
None of these things are an issue for me but they might be for you. If they are then get the Note.
The perks of this device are the quick vanilla updates from google, the build quality (on mine anyway), the battery life is decent, the screen is sharp and natural, it's lightning quick and has a wide variety of ROM's that almost all run stable on the device.
As far as I'm concerned, BB10 looks nice but it's an unknown beast. Do we know if the upgrade path will be like that of Android, where devices can be upgraded to newer versions with improvements; or will it be like WP7 where the devices weren't compatible with WP8 (i could be wrong about this, memory's sketchy)?
I'd suggest going with the Nexus, it'll be consistently updated from google and you can change almost anything on it you want - let the blackberry come out, spend a year out in the wild and see what comes of it.
Whether it's free on a contract or not, you're still paying for it one way or another - no point backing a dud horse...
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I actually bought the N5 before getting the N4. The fact is, I'm gonna get all of the Nexus devices (all new in box) just because I can. And I plan on using most of them.
But anyway, for those that aren't as Nexus obsessed as me, why did you stay with the N4? I know one answer I'm going to hear: "because it still does what I need". (fair enough)
Just interested in what people think.
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Good response. Thanks for sharing.
Some of us are enthusiasts interested in other people's opinions and experiences.
I stayed with the N4 because I think it's more handy. It's a little smaller than the nexus 5 and since I have smaller hands I prefer the nexus 4. Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)
I stayed because I didnt find mych difference and also Im in a condition that buying a new device will probably waste my time ! And also planing to move to google silver or iphone 6
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Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)
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That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.
I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!
my reason :
- I got my N4 cheap (got $100 discount when I bought it).
- screen density is more than enough for my poor eyes. (tell you the truth I really can tell differences between 415ppi vs 318ppi).
- CPU sector, for me myself my nexus 4 is already fast enough. I mean this is a phone not a laptop/pc, I don't need huge clock speed or ram to play games.
only one two cent personal opinion.
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I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!
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I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.
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I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.
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It is a great phone, no questions there
Why did you decide to stay with the N4 after the N5 was released?
I guess because not everyone is as independently wealthy as you. Geez, I just bought the thing only a year and a half ago. Assuming that someone keeps making OS updates for this phone on this forum to keep up with security updates, I will keep it for around the same time-frame as I refresh my main desktop computer, about 5 to 7 years. Heck, my older second desktop computer is 11 years old and runs various versions of Linux as well as XP just fine (Although I disabled XP because it was finally discontinued.) I understand it is the constantly changing hardware that forces Google to very quickly stop supporting OS upgrades on older devices (really just an excuse to sell more devices), but it is really ridiculous that my Nexus 4 will shortly become obsolete by Google's standards, unlike Microsoft who supports their operating systems for a very reasonable amount of time.
I stayed with my Nexus 4 because Nexus 5 didn't offer a significant difference in performance. I was able to compare that side by side, and the performance of my Nexus 4 was just fast as Nexus 5. So i saw no point in change.
As i'm a non gamer guy, i think Nexus 5 will perform better games than Nexus 4, but i really don't play much.
Personally speaking, changing phone every year (some people always want to stay on fashion), seems to me like throwing money away, i think it's better change of 2 in 2 years, then you'll notice more technology improvement.
Another situation, was when i saw the Nexus 5...i was totally disappointed with his design..i mean look at the Nexus 4...it has an amazing design, glass on the back, all seems to be in harmony.
In Nexus 5 it's just a phone...don't know...lack of personality, i guess....lol
Now, i'll be waiting for Nexus 6...let's see if it worth...
Most of the replies posted in the thread apply to me as well. Some additional thoughts that kept me away from the n5:
It feels better in my hands and the size was perfect. The main things I liked were the corners of the nexus 4 were more curved than the 5, and that the tapered edges of the n4 screen felt natural.
I also preferred the n4's "discrete" camera compared to the gigantic wart that's on the back of the n5.
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I stayed because I won't jump to another phone until I see significant improvement in technology as nowadays it's just spec bumps. I think the 4th is more than enough to last for another 2 years. I'll probably change next year with the coming of L and 64bit phones and only if it really matters. Oh, and I'm not rich enough to change phone every year ?
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That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.
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No CandyKat? It is there, right here.
My reason? Saving up my money for my masters degree studies.
I got the N4 on contract which isn't up until March next year.
Being a student I couldn't afford to buy it outright, and obviously couldn't afford to buy the N5 when it came out.
I will, however, be buying the Nexus 6 the moment it's released. I should have my student loan through by then.
Priorities, right?
I think the Nexus 4 is a gorgeous looking phone (I'm a sucker for the glitter back) and I like how the edges curve as well, it is a unique design. It's also one of the most comfortable device to grip. Lastly, the size of the screen and phone are very similar to the Moto X, which is the ideal size for me. I believe LG went with cheaper production cost with the N5. I originally sold my N4, but when Android L preview image was announced, I was dying to try it out, so I bought another N4. I'm not planning to sell it again (I hope), there is a charm about this device that I like.
I to am a nexus lover. I did buy a n5, I do use it as my daily phone for the most part. but I do occasionally use my n4 as my phone as well. actually, I use my n4 and n5 every day. my n4 I use daily as a WiFi device at work. and it is still a great device! but those that say that the n4 is on par with the n5 when it comes to speed, are just kidding themselves. sure, in the ui, its just as fast as my n5. heck, my gnex is as fast in the ui as my n5. but I'm not talking ui, as any phone(even my nexus s) can have a fast ui if you set it up right. I'm talking opening apps/process, and computing. the n5 blows my n4 away when it comes to apps opening, and the speed of actually computing. anyways, that doesn't take away from my n4, as I do love it as part of my family
I stayed because it wasn't that BIG of an upgrade from the N4 to be honest. Definitely getting the N6 whenever its announce/released.
I got the my Nexus 4 when Google put them on sale last year before the 5's release. I'm in the process of convincing the wife that I need (aka want) a Nexus 5.
Greetings All,
I'm on a Note 3 right now, and Monday or Tuesday it's time for my upgrade. I'm torn between a Note 4 and the Nexus 6. The last 3 devices I owned were Note 3, Galaxy S4, and Galaxy S2. I'm really looking to switch it up here, and step back from Samsung for a little while. The Nexus 6 is my first choice right now, seeing as the Note 3 has me pretty spoiled with the large screen and the s-pen. I guess my question would be, since I've been seeing mixed reviews for Nexus 6 around the web, does anyone here have any regrets buying this device so far? And if so, are any regrets stone cold deal breakers, or just minor issues? I'm really looking at giving "vanilla" android (if that's even such thing on xda) a run, and I've heard that the Nexus devices have had the most and best development as far as that goes. So I guess I'm asking if there's any major problems with the Nexus 6 that is not being mentioned in a standard review, before I go scoop one up in the next day or two. Many thanks in advance...
My only gripe with this device is the poor cell signal. My phone is constantly searching for a signal and it is really impacting my battery life. Other than that I am happy with this device, hopefully T-Mobile pushes the OTA update for WiFi Calling soon.
no regrets here. want unlockable, rootable device that I can do as I want with. this is my first Nexus device. got it from Moto direct. on VZW
have generally had moto devices in the past and like their overall solid construction.
like Samsung devices but they are always a but flimsy IMHO.
None at all, I came from my 2 G3's (D850 and F460) and haven't looked back. My wife liked my Nexus so much (except the size) she wanted a Moto X 2014 so I bought her one. This so hands down my favorite phone so far
If u get the nexus use HDR+ on your camera day and night looks amazing. I thought I would miss Samsung but I don't . I miss the knock on. With the g3 but that's something I can put on the nexus
My only regret was not buying this phone sooner.
I'd only have a regret if something with otherwise the same specs but a smaller screen came out within a month of release; I guess I also regret switching to T-Mobile right before release but that's a different issue.
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My only gripe with this device is the poor cell signal. My phone is constantly searching for a signal and it is really impacting my battery life. Other than that I am happy with this device, hopefully T-Mobile pushes the OTA update for WiFi Calling soon.
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Whoa, no WiFi calling?? I kind of need that for work....
Got it. I think I'm gonna go scoop one up tomorrow. Thanks all
I regret not waiting for the Nexus 6+ with the 6.7" screen.
Do you like to spend time tinkering?
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Got it. I think I'm gonna go scoop one up tomorrow. Thanks all
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If you have the time to tinker and are willing to wait for things to get fixed or turned into features, this is the phone for you. If you have been using Samsung devices and think you will get anything close to the features Samsung adds, especially to their Note line, forget it. One thing the Nexus will help you see and appreciate is all the care and hard work that goes into their overlay. Things you may have thought were standard user options turn out to be features of branded manufactured phones. I have much respect for the care that Sammy and LG and even HTC puts in their phones now that I'm pure Vanilla. So, yes// there are definitely some trade offs I was unaware of.
Hi, Note 4 team
*** For anyone considering or thinking of a Nexus 6 ***
I realized very recently that the Nexus 6 is just not the phone that everyone is hyping it up to be.
I've been a loyal and die-hard Nexus fan since the Galaxy Nexus but also have always liked Samsung phones - particularly the Note.
In December 2014 I bought a Note 4, unlocked it and used it for a month until I was offered a great deal on a Nexus 6. I knew I was going to get one or the other but for some reason the Nexus hype bit me. I unloaded my Note 4 within 2 days and got the Nexus 6 and the honeymoon period didn't last long at all. The phone is a spec beast but that's about all it's got going other than the obvious "first to update" thing. While Lollipop is a joy to use, I can wait until the official release is out for NA Note 4 variants. I really don't miss any part of it and as for my usage, it didn't offer much over Kit Kat.
The phone is awkward to hold. I'm only 5'7" and can comfortably hold and use the Note 4 whereas the Nexus 6 is slippery and strange. That extra little bit of size on the Nexus 6 really kills it for me. After only a month of using the Nexus 6, I had to sell it and go back to the trusty Note. The Nexus was hard to sell too because there are only a specific group of people who really want it and know what type of phone it is. I realize after my month away from the Note 4, I should have never gotten rid of it in the first place. Even within the 1 month with the Nexus, I couldn't handle the size and I had to resort to using a spare iPhone 5 I have lying around. It really was a pain.
I'm glad to be back with a Note 4 and it feels normal again.
tldr; Bought a Note 4. Used it for a month and sold it to get a Nexus 6. Used the Nexus 6 for a month and realized it sucked. Went back to Note 4.
so its the size which forced you to switch back?
I love how good the note 4 feels in my hands and it feels like a solid phone.
I've used notes since the note 2 and don't think I will buy a different type of phone unless Samsung really mess up the formula.
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Size and software. With size it also was the shape of the phone. Rounded was nice and the dimple did help a bit but I didn't feel comfortable holding it and typing with one hand like I do with the Note. Also, I kind of felt that with the Note 2, you get the large screen with added features. Spec-for-spec, the two phones are nearly identical. Add in the S-Pen and some TW features and you have a more fully-featured, well rounded phone.
I also find the camera to be better on the Note 4 - camera is a huge point for me and I fell for the Nexus hype again just like I did on the Nexus 5. They touted that the Nexus 5 camera was top notch but once I got it, it was really sub-par. Same with the Nexus 6 - the focusing was very slow and AI was just not there (I'm used to fast-focusing as I use a Canon 5D Mark 2 with fast primes) and the Note 4 really picks it up when you turn off HDR. It's not iPhone speed but it's way better than the Nexus, hands down.
I had a Galaxy S5 in my hands which I decided against because I really like the size and build of the Note.
I have both as well & the N4 does feel more comfortable to use.
The getting the latest updates thing that sells the Nexus, is it really all that?
I had the N5 & it didn't get all that many updates, the M8 got just as many, if a little later.
If lollipop is anything to go by, maybe getting the update first isn't such a good thing. Pure Android is very nice I do agree & TW is somewhat ghastly but with Nova Launcher on it's fine. Google's launcher is pants too. I use Nova on my N6 also. That permanent Google search bar is stupid, as is the stock dpi.
I do like the N6 but the N4 is far more palatable & feels more luxury in the hand.
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I have both as well & the N4 does feel more comfortable to use.
The getting the latest updates thing that sells the Nexus, is it really all that?
I had the N5 & it didn't get all that many updates, the M8 got just as many, if a little later.
If lollipop is anything to go by, maybe getting the update first isn't such a good thing. Pure Android is very nice I do agree & TW is somewhat ghastly but with Nova Launcher on it's fine. Google's launcher is pants too. I use Nova on my N6 also. That permanent Google search bar is stupid, as is the stock dpi.
I do like the N6 but the N4 is far more palatable & feels more luxury in the hand.
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You're exactly right about Nova Launcher. I've been using Nova Prime for a long time (maybe since I got my S2) and it's well worth it. My favorite is having 7 small dock icons.
On Nexus 6 Bluetooth quality is very poor compared to other top smartphones. Note 4 has very good quality with Headset and Car Hi-Fi.
This is good to know as I've been tempted recently to switch to the Nexus 6 myself. What's stopped me so far is that the 32gb Nexus retails for the same price as the Note 4 in my country. Factor in the extra features you're getting on the Note 4 then the Nexus starts to look like much worse value for money. I'd go back to the OnePlus One over the Nexus 6 any day of the week. The OPO is a much more worthy successor to the Nexus 5 in my opinion as it represents what the Nexus always has in the past - value for money.
Actually the only reason I went from the OnePlus to the Note 4 was band 28 lte, but now that I'm here I am really ☺.
After 2 months of use my Note 4 (SM-N910F) on 4.4.4 KK (stock) from a Note 3 (SM-N9005) on 4.4.2 KK (stock)
Pros:
- Camera, a lot better in all scenarios, Focus, Low Light, detail, was a very big jump and probably because of OIS (main reason to upgarde from Note 3 for me)
- Display, some people say 1080p to QHD dont see diference, i see, its mucth brighter and crisp and beautiful
- Desing of the Note 4 with metal edges, feel in the hand, very good looking phone
Cons:
- Battery, read a lot about display energy consumpsion, all wrong the battery drains a lot everytime i am using the phonne, 4 hours max screen on time
- UI general lag, 2.7GHZ?! The UI its very laggy, sometimes 1 sec to do what you want, compare to iphone 5S for example its a shame
- Sound, and dont understand why a top 2014 Samsung device like Note 4 dont have stereo speakers, the speaker on the back its very bad
- Bluetooth, i have a Samsung Gear and with the Note 4 some metters away one from the other and i got disconnected massage on my Gear
Sound, agreed that stereo speakers are overdue but I prefer the speaker on the back over the on the bottom of my old note 3. (which i covered many times just holding the phone)
Bluetooth, my gear live never disconnects if within ten meters (30ft) of my phone.
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On Nexus 6 Bluetooth quality is very poor compared to other top smartphones. Note 4 has very good quality with Headset and Car Hi-Fi.
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I honestly didn't notice much difference in bluetooth quality. I stream through Google Play Music and bluetooth to a JBL Flip 2 and and Beats 2.0 Wireless and it sounds the same to me.
Oh another couple of things that were a minor annoyance that turned into huge ones...
The rounded back made the phone spin when it's on a table. This makes laying it on a table and using it impossible. It was especially annoying when I had an alarm set to wake me up in the morning, it would spin all over the damn place when I tried to snooze it.
Secondly, the power and volume buttons were way too close to each other. I'd always end up hitting the wrong button when I wanted to lock/unlock the phone or turn up the volume.
Again they were minor annoyances which I thought I'd be able to simply get over it and I didn't think it would really affect my usage like it did.
....and warranty!! OMFG you should see the stories on Reddit about Motorola's warranty. It's absolutely terrible and disgraceful.
If you weren't lucky enough to be able to get your Nexus 6 from the Play store and got it direct from Motorola or a carrier, you were pretty much screwed. People with white 64gb devices that had to claim warranty were offered replacements that were blue 32gb. Some cases took weeks to replace and when the replacements arrived, they were more damaged that the one that was supposed to be sent back.
Canadians were particularly screwed as they don't offer RMA replacement services. They only offer RMA repair and on top of that the rep told me that some Motorola Canadian repair depots don't have the documentation or training on how to repair Nexus 6 phones yet (I chatted online with a rep in late January - things might be different now).
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....and warranty!! OMFG you should see the stories on Reddit about Motorola's warranty. It's absolutely terrible and disgraceful.
If you weren't lucky enough to be able to get your Nexus 6 from the Play store and got it direct from Motorola or a carrier, you were pretty much screwed. People with white 64gb devices that had to claim warranty were offered replacements that were blue 32gb. Some cases took weeks to replace and when the replacements arrived, they were more damaged that the one that was supposed to be sent back.
Canadians were particularly screwed as they don't offer RMA replacement services. They only offer RMA repair and on top of that the rep told me that some Motorola Canadian repair depots don't have the documentation or training on how to repair Nexus 6 phones yet (I chatted online with a rep in late January - things might be different now).
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Just to clarify warranty. In Europe if you call Google support that you have a problem wit any nexus during warranty period, first time they will replace it for factory refurbished device without any questions, so I wouldn't contact Motorola. Samsung offers something similar: you can go to shop you bought it and they will replace it for new device but only within first two weeks after purchase.
Now, please don't understand me wrong , I love Note 4 and wouldn't replace it for Nexus 6 but only because of replaceable battery and micro SD slot and because I can install CM12 on it. TW ROM may have more stuff in it but it doesn't come even close to responsiveness of nexus devices. I still have Nexus 4 and even on TW lollipop Note 4 is slower. I am not talking about performance in games etc, but about general responsiveness. On CM12 situation is other way around of course.
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Just to clarify warranty. In Europe if you call Google support that you have a problem wit any nexus during warranty period, first time they will replace it for factory refurbished device without any questions, so I wouldn't contact Motorola. Samsung offers something similar: you can go to shop you bought it and they will replace it for new device but only within first two weeks after purchase.
Now, please don't understand me wrong , I love Note 4 and wouldn't replace it for Nexus 6 but only because of replaceable battery and micro SD slot and because I can install CM12 on it. TW ROM may have more stuff in it but it doesn't come even close to responsiveness of nexus devices. I still have Nexus 4 and even on TW lollipop Note 4 is slower. I am not talking about performance in games etc, but about general responsiveness. On CM12 situation is other way around of course.
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This is only if you bought it from the Google Play Store. Some people had to buy from a carrier because Google was out of stock.
In terms of responsiveness, it feels the same for my usage. I don't sit there and measure how fast it goes when I swipe my finger - that is not how I use my phone. I play Leo's Fortune and Hitman Go... that's about as crazy as I get and it works well. I don't see any noticeable lag. So when you say it doesn't even come close, I think you don't know how close it really is because it's pretty damn close if not exactly the same. I'm speaking from experience with the Nexus 6 and not from what I heard someone say on YouTube.
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This is only if you bought it from the Google Play Store. Some people had to buy from a carrier because Google was out of stock.
In terms of responsiveness, it feels the same for my usage. I don't sit there and measure how fast it goes when I swipe my finger - that is not how I use my phone. I play Leo's Fortune and Hitman Go... that's about as crazy as I get and it works well. I don't see any noticeable lag. So when you say it doesn't even come close, I think you don't know how close it really is because it's pretty damn close if not exactly the same. I'm speaking from experience with the Nexus 6 and not from what I heard someone say on YouTube.
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I am sorry but you are wrong about warranty, according to EU law you can choose manufacturers warranty or shop warranty. So if you decide to use Google they will help you, I am not assuming, I have done it without any problems.
I wrote what I experience on my devices nexus 4 vs note 4 and nexus 5 which I didn't mention before. I didn't say you saying anything wrong so please hold your comments about YouTube and my knowledge to yourself, there is no need for that, I am entitled to my opinion (especially it is based on experience) same way you are to yours.
From my EXPERIENCE responsiveness is in order: tw kitkat note 4 ->TW lollipop note 4-> lollipop nexus 4 -> lollipop nexus 5 -> cm12 note 4. So I have to disagree: in my case it is not close (closer if I use Nova launcher tough). I can see it mostly when I scroll on fb or big websites, it is not micro lag it is noticeable lag.
I do not own nexus 6 and there is slim chance it is slower comparing to nexus 4 and 5.
I am not trying to prove you wrong, just saying what I observed. I t is absolutely possible you have entirely different experiences and neither of us is right
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I am sorry but you are wrong about warranty, according to EU law you can choose manufacturers warranty or shop warranty. So if you decide to use Google they will help you, I am not assuming, I have done it without any problems.
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How can you go through Google warranty if you didn't purchase the phone from Google? This is what I'm getting at. If you had to purchase the phone through a carrier - Google warranty will not help you here.
If you have not used the Nexus 6 as a daily driver then you, unfortunately, cannot speak from experience. I think you're just looking to be offended by something so I'll leave it at that. I'm not looking for an e-fight. Carry on, sir.
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How can you go through Google warranty if you didn't purchase the phone from Google? This is what I'm getting at. If you had to purchase the phone through a carrier - Google warranty will not help you here.
If you have not used the Nexus 6 as a daily driver then you, unfortunately, cannot speak from experience. I think you're just looking to be offended by something so I'll leave it at that. I'm not looking for an e-fight. Carry on, sir.
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I have been always buying my phones from carriers and twice I have them replaced by manufacturer. Once it was Nexus 5, they send me replacement without asking questions (although you are right it was LG not Google, although they still offered factory refurbished straight away no idea if it is standard policy tough, possible it has something to do with my carrier), and second time it was Sony Xperia S which went for repair and they gave me a new one after they decided it could not be repaired. So I will repeat again You are entitled to manufacturers warranty even if you bought it from carrier. Well at least in UK they offer it without hassle. What I am trying to tell is you will always have 2 options when you buy it from carrier, carrier as a seller and manufacturer. Also from what you wrote is not a policy problem, but supply problem and Motorola is not the first to face it. You can find plenty examples how Samsung fails to comply with warranty claims, this is just a part of mass production, and is especially visible within first few months after release.
Sir I am not looking for a fight either ( I believed that comment about YouTube was directed at me, therefore my response), I placed my comparison to 2 nexus devices I own, I said I do not own 6, I even said it is possible it is slower . My point is I love Samsung devices, software not so much. And that is where Nexus was always shining - pure os. There was always plenty of phones better made then nexus, but none of them offered the same software experience, and I believe it still stands ( I do not need to own n6 to know that, soft on n5 and n4 is the same). I am sure there will be plenty people, as I assume you are, who will prefer TW over pure android. I am just not one of them. I prefer to by note 4 and install cm12 rather then buying nexus 6 because I believe note 4 is simply better hardware.
Small correction : of course Xperia s was first
would you buy the nexus 6 again today over other phones?
Yes but not direct from Motorola
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Probably not.
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would you buy the nexus 6 again today over other phones?
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I perhaps would try the LG G4. Prior to switching I had the LG G3 and it was a pretty great phone. Considering you only needed root and the exposed framework to do many cool features. Thought that it was a great concept for moving forward with devices. No longer waiting for that special ROM to come. It was truly a no hassle phone.
I'd go with the Sammy S6 edge except it is very small on screen size. But my number one concern with any phone is support for Android Auto, cause when I'm mobile, I am and want to be hands free mobile. But in my humble opinion, the Nexus is much more of a dedicated ROM, Framework, and Governor type phone which requires constant attention and tweaking by the user to get the most out of.
I love my N6 but I wish the camera was faster. The camera on the G4 is the only thing I covet
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Yes, I was not at all impressed with the m9. I must admit the s6 did impress me however only 5 inches and no front facing speakers makes me not want it. I must admit I am anxiously waiting for the note 5 and what ever the next Nexus device is going to be at the end of the year. If the next Nexus is smaller than 5.5 inches I will definitely consider the Note 5.
I am still very happy with my Nexus 6
I tend not to buy phones that are 6 months old. If it was 3 months ago, then yes.
There is nothing now that I feel would be any better either though. I'd probably be waiting until Autumn unless I had a desperate requirement
Yes, mostly because root is more and more elusive. There's so much less to worry about with a Nexus device: no need for exploits nor bootloader codes, no worries about bricking, and no lack of dev support.
That said, there are areas I would like to see improvement. Between Google and all the dev support, we don't have to wait long to see and implement them.
Coming from a S4 to this phone is like night and day. Boot loader, root, general flashing all much easier with a great forum to provide support.... whats not to love?? If none of those things matter to you then any phone would do but if you like to live a little on the edge and try new stuff.... this type of phone is a good choice.
Yes. Tired of waiting for ROMs and bootloader hacks and root access for other phones. Google gives you access to everything right out the box.
I would buy my Nexus 6 today in a heartbeat. Even though it's now an "older" device, there are many points that I love and haven't really seen in other devices. Top 5 reasons:
1. Aftermarket/community support
2. Build materials and quality (I like the plastic back with the metal frame. Might not be as "pretty" but the back is less likely to show abrasions and won't dent)
3. Lollipop/"Pure" Android (no bloat, cutting-edge software, timely updates)
4. The amazing hardware package (although we all agree the camera could be better on a device in this class)
a. awesome processors
b. lots o' RAM
c. fantastic radios (cell, GPS, BT, WiFi)
d. wonderful front stereo speakers
e. dat screen, doh
f. etc...
5. Size and shape
As others have said, I cannot go without an rooted and unlocked device. My heart would sink if i had an unmodable phone. The dev and community support is great. Other phones may have nice features here and there or higher benchmarks but if it cannot rooted and unlocked I'll pass. The manufacturers may have a their own idea of how a phone should be setup, but I don't prefer it. I want to tweak it to my liking, especially since this is primarily what in use to communicate with the world.
Just as in the plethora of ROMs available here: some are stock+ while others have a ton of features. I, fortunately, have the ability to choose which user-interface best pleases my needs.
If all phones were unlocked and rootable I would have to rethink my answer.
I would absolutely buy it again.
I did just purchase mine. Had the s6 and had to return it because of display issues and the battery life was terrible. At the store they gave me a replacement with the same display issue (pink tint on bottom 1/3 of the display, very noticable next to the display model). Looked at the g flex 2 and m9 and decided I wanted to go with this. I had been saying I was gonna get a nexus anyway but the s6's hardware was very appealing. I am not disappointed with my decision at all. I did think the battery life would be a little better on this and it does get uncomfortably toasty at times but I do love this phone.
Definitely would buy again.
1) Unlockable bootloader with so little hassle
2) Dev community
At the same time I have been putting up with a slow camera ;(
Edit: good solution for camera just found: open camera (in the GPS: Dev mark Harman)
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I did just purchase mine. Had the s6 and had to return it because of display issues and the battery life was terrible. At the store they gave me a replacement with the same display issue (pink tint on bottom 1/3 of the display, very noticable next to the display model). Looked at the g flex 2 and m9 and decided I wanted to go with this. I had been saying I was gonna get a nexus anyway but the s6's hardware was very appealing. I am not disappointed with my decision at all. I did think the battery life would be a little better on this and it does get uncomfortably toasty at times but I do love this phone.
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Check out the disabling services thread in general http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/disabling-google-play-services-guide-t2999821/page22 post 220 talks about disabling receivers, it refers to the google play update receivers they start with system.update. I disabled those 3 and battery life has been pretty good (along with other stuff I don't use... Fit, Kids, and such). Of course you need to be rooted to do this, I am using My Android Tools (I got the paid version but there is also a free version I think) to disable stuff. Just pay close attention to the thread and don't try to experiment.... at a minimum, you will want to have a nandroid backup before you start just incase you disable something by mistake.
in tech, its all about timing. there are 810 phones i can get today.. though i think i might be happier with the 805 than the 810, but the chips in the s6 look pretty good... i might even wait for the 6s-plus to come out if i were shopping today (if the 6 plus had 2 gigs of ram i would have gotten a 6 plus)... the phone i wanted more than anything was the droid turbo when deciding (was between nexus 6, moto x, m8 and droid turbo... so lots of moto). after seeing all the development for the nexus, i dont think i would go to another phone... but an lg nexus with ips display might be nice (dont need 4k, 1080 is fine... want a 4200 mAh battery).
and i have a feeling we are still unlocking new potential with the phone, porting moto features, getting cm implementation ironed out... lollipop is still in growing pains...
I just bought mine a couple weeks ago so I'd say yes. I was just tired of lack of root and delayed updates on the Note 4.