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Seriously, I rollover it alot when going for UserCP or topic list and this damn thing keeps enlarging/taking up a big portion of my screen.
The other ones are fine though.
isnt there some sort of ad blocker available for your browser??
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isnt there some sort of ad blocker available for your browser??
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Yes there would be but thats not very supportive of XDA now is it
I've never seen an add on xda.
I've heard about them, but never seen them!
These adds are necessary to keep our servers running.
If you want to remove the with an add blocker feel free to do so, but please donate to xda first.
Be aware that we have bills to pay: bandwidth isn't cheap these days.
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EqX
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These adds are necessary to keep our servers running.
If you want to remove the with an add blocker feel free to do so, but please donate to xda first.
Be aware that we have bills to pay: bandwidth isn't cheap these days.
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EqX
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I understand the ads are needed to support the site, but when they start affecting a user's browsing experience, that's when it becomes a problem.
I see starting today there is this new ad that shows up on the bottom that plays by itself (I thought I had some sort of spyware because I had my volume up), don't anyone else see a problem with this?
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I understand the ads are needed to support the site, but when they start affecting a user's browsing experience, that's when it becomes a problem.
I see starting today there is this new ad that shows up on the bottom that plays by itself (I thought I had some sort of spyware because I had my volume up), don't anyone else see a problem with this?
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I have to agree with you:
when it affects the user's browsing experience it is counter productive, since the less users are willing to "endure" the ads the less revenue it brings.
I also must admit: Since the beginning of banners on the net I have chosen to use an ad-blocker-script on ALL sites.
But because I am a regular visitor here (and currently even a small part of the infrastructure) I choose to donate to compensate for bandwidth usage etc..
This way I can say with a clear conscience: although I block the ads I still contribute (financially) to this community.
If you want to talk to the admin about this you can talk to Svetius(eg. by PM), he is always open for constructive criticism and valuable feedback from the users' point of view.
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EqX
Is there a reason? I've used several nice apps from here, but just curious why you dont give them more exposure.
A lot of them are on the market, they are just posted here too.
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It costs money to get on the market. Xda is free. Would you rather get something for free here, or pay for it on the market?
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I think I remember reading in another thread that there was a fee you have to pay before putting apps on the market. I assume it doesn't matter if the app is free or not.
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It costs money to get on the market. Xda is free.
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Thats true.
Its like 20$+ to be a developer for Android.
The devs may not be sure if they'll get that 20$+ back after putting it on the market and it doesn't sell as much... so they post it here
As a Dev $25 doesnt really matter to potentially get more exposure so I don't understand why other devs don't put their good apps on the market many of them are useful even for people other than power users
is $99 not $25 and not all devs are from market enabled countries
I'm pretty sure it's $25. The app store on iOS is 100.
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The only reason I can see besides the $25 or $99 fee is the ratings.
Once an app is posted to the market you have somewhere around 9.2 million Americans with access to your app. If your app has bugs or is not perfect from the start you start getting 1 star ratings. These ratings will slowly knock your app away from any sort of recognition.
Developers on XDA post there app here in order to receive constructive criticism, instead of a market comment like "App has Force Close Errors 1 star." Instead on XDA the developers can get and give ideas to other. Then when they seem like the app is fully tested they can choose to post it to the market.
geiko said:
I'm pretty sure it's $25. The app store on iOS is 100.
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The Android Market fee is a ONE-TIME $25. iOS is yearly.
Xda is a test bed for good ideas. Said good ideas get made into an app that gets throughly tested ppl with different phone models then the dev. Then the app can go to market.
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My apps are in the Android Market.
Mine is on the Market and has a thread on here, although I haven't attached the free APK to the thread.
And yeah, although the UI isn't great (I have plans for it) and I don't advertise a lot, I still managed to earn a little over $200 so far, making back well over the $25 I spent to be able to sell my app. It's worth it.
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Developers on XDA post there app here in order to receive constructive criticism, instead of a market comment like "App has Force Close Errors 1 star." Instead on XDA the developers can get and give ideas to other. Then when they seem like the app is fully tested they can choose to post it to the market.
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The above is a very good reason for posting your app elsewhere before publishing on the market. Most of the market reviews I've had regarding a problem didn't include any useful information on how to replicate the issue. For example, you'll typically get comments like "Freezes!" or "Force closes!" with no indication where in the app these problems occur. Likewise, identifying and fixing device specific issues is particularly difficult if you only rely on market reviews.
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Thats true.
Its like 20$+ to be a developer for Android.
The devs may not be sure if they'll get that 20$+ back after putting it on the market and it doesn't sell as much... so they post it here
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I'm not sure this is a big deterrent. It's a $25 one-time fee to publish as many apps as you want and you wouldn't need many sales or ad clicks to cover this cost.
agree....you will get more useful info alot faster on XDA regarding fuctionality and bug reports.
Alot of people just develop apps as a hobby with no intention of selling them. So why pay the $25?
and sometines you get banned without explanation so its a good place to upload you apk's google ban without send a warning maybe an icon, maybe something you did wrong and you couldnt fix they just ban and close you play store forever (and the next account you can made)
I put my Apps both on here and on the App Store.
I don't make any money from my apps, but I love Android because it's only a one time fee of $25 to publish apps to Android.
I was going to start with iOS but that's $100 yearly. Kind of ridiculous in my opinion.
Yup, Google Play is only a 1 time fee of $25. I dont think devs should be afraid of low ratings. You can't satisfy everyone. I get requests daily about what I should include in the app. There a lot of ideas and for a 99 cent app, I'm just not sure its worth it to build all these ideas into the app. The ones I do pay attention to are the ones where they say something doesn't work or it crashes when this or that happens.
Guys-found this link where google acknowledges Nexus 5 has excess battery drain and will try and address:
http://www.ibtimes.com/google-worki...android-devices-kitkat-qualcomm-chips-1559771
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Guys-found this link where google acknowledges Nexus 5 has excess battery drain and will try and address:
http://www.ibtimes.com/google-worki...android-devices-kitkat-qualcomm-chips-1559771
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Word of advice, DO NOT trust anything IBTIMES says.
On another note I did see other sites reporting that Google knows about the battery drain issue and that a fix should be soon on its way but none of the sites I read from were credible sites.
sent from my neXus 5
Yes, google has indeed accepted this bug and working on a fix for it in the next update. However, they haven't exactly given a timeline for the next update!
Source: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=60058#c475
Think it should be made clear that its caused by the Camera.... if you don't see " mm-qcamera-daemon" in your battery , you don't have excessive drain
Its not going to be a miracle shot for amazing battery life on the N5 .
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Word of advice, DO NOT trust anything IBTIMES says.
On another note I did see other sites reporting that Google knows about the battery drain issue and that a fix should be soon on its way but none of the sites I read from were credible sites.
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Thanks for letting me know, I will keep that in mind. Feel free to delete my post if next to useless.
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Thanks for letting me know, I will keep that in mind. Feel free to delete my post if next to useless.
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You're welcome and your post isn't necessarily useless. It will help others that may have had the same question as yourself.
Credible sites that I love to go on are www.Androidpolice.com, www.Engadget.com & www.Phonedog.com[url]
Of course th...e the ones I use daily.
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Anyone getting excessive drain from Google+ in getting it on all my nexus devices (2012,2013 and 5)
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Google said that it can't provide a timeline for when the update would be released “due to all the testing we need to do for this and other fixes.”
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Come on IBTimes, first rule of IBTimes: no ETAs! ?
OuncE718 said:
Word of advice, DO NOT trust anything IBTIMES says.
On another note I did see other sites reporting that Google knows about the battery drain issue and that a fix should be soon on its way but none of the sites I read from were credible sites.
sent from my neXus 5
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HU bro?!
I've been having poor battery the past few days. 4-5 hrs unplugged, 1 hour screen, 2-3 hours playing music and it went to 20%. Used to only use up 30-40% last week.
Will have to monitor closely.
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kidrobot52 said:
Anyone getting excessive drain from Google+ in getting it on all my nexus devices (2012,2013 and 5)
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Yes.... It just started a couple days ago
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Blario said:
HU bro?!
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I'm confused. What's "HU"?
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I'm confused. What's "HU"?
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That answers it
Blario said:
That answers it
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That answers what? What does "HU" mean?
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Yes.... It just started a couple days ago
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I've restricted so permissions for it in app ops. Just charged my phone so I'm going to see if it does it again.
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No battery issues here. A day and half with 6 hours screen time is the norm.
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ibtimes?
Funny coincidence -- I wrote that article on the Nexus 5. I came into the forum looking for more hardware hacks like the one where you drill holes into the back of the Nexus 5, since I just broke my screen and was wondering if there was anything else I could tinker with while my case was open to make the N5 better. Couldn't find anything, but was happy to see someone shared my story.
Then, I saw @OuncE718's warning about the site I work for.
All I can say is that I stand by my reporting. My stories are factual, and trustworthy. I strive to adhere to the Society for Professional Journalists' Code of Ethics. (sorry for being long-winded, but I just want to start a dialogue).
I presented the facts as they appeared in that Google forum, and informed readers who didn't know about that particular battery life issue, as well as the Google's awareness of the issue -- and the project manager's comments on the matter.
The reason I didn't provide a timeline is because Google refuses to give a timeline for the fix -- it will likely appear in the 4.4.3 or a future release of Android. However, rather than speculating on that, I presented the facts. The truth is, Google doesn't know exactly when they will fix it.
Since I am in contact with Google's media relations, I can sometimes get answers to questions. More often than not, I am writing about something that Google can't talk about, like a future release, and they will not respond. However, especially when it considers issues that have not been brought to their attention, they will reach out to me and provide a statement. I would appreciate it if everybody here considered me a resource. The reason that I became a writer was to provide a public service when I can.
I want readers to be able to read my stories, and have some faith that I am doing my best to inform them truthfully.
If anyone has something newsworthy they would like to talk about, questions (or criticisms) about one of my stories, or a tip for something that they think would make a good story, I suggest you reach out to me on Twitter (@TommyLikey) or via email. Use my first initial (my name is Tom), then a period, then halleck at ibtimes dot com.
I write for the tech team. We strive to do good work, and I can't answer for the organization as a whole, but I can tell you that in my experience, it is filled with smart people who are trying to turn a newer news organization into something that we, and you our readers, can be proud of.
I am interested in your thoughts, concerns and criticisms.
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Funny coincidence -- I wrote that article on the Nexus 5. I came into the forum looking for more hardware hacks like the one where you drill holes into the back of the Nexus 5, since I just broke my screen and was wondering if there was anything else I could tinker with while my case was open to make the N5 better. Couldn't find anything, but was happy to see someone shared my story.
Then, I saw @OuncE718's warning about the site I work for.
All I can say is that I stand by my reporting. My stories are factual, and trustworthy. I strive to adhere to the Society for Professional Journalists' Code of Ethics. (sorry for being long-winded, but I just want to start a dialogue).
I presented the facts as they appeared in that Google forum, and informed readers who didn't know about that particular battery life issue, as well as the Google's awareness of the issue -- and the project manager's comments on the matter.
The reason I didn't provide a timeline is because Google refuses to give a timeline for the fix -- it will likely appear in the 4.4.3 or a future release of Android. However, rather than speculating on that, I presented the facts. The truth is, Google doesn't know exactly when they will fix it.
Since I am in contact with Google's media relations, I can sometimes get answers to questions. More often than not, I am writing about something that Google can't talk about, like a future release, and they will not respond. However, especially when it considers issues that have not been brought to their attention, they will reach out to me and provide a statement. I would appreciate it if everybody here considered me a resource. The reason that I became a writer was to provide a public service when I can.
I want readers to be able to read my stories, and have some faith that I am doing my best to inform them truthfully.
If anyone has something newsworthy they would like to talk about, questions (or criticisms) about one of my stories, or a tip for something that they think would make a good story, I suggest you reach out to me on Twitter (@TommyLikey) or via email. Use my first initial (my name is Tom), then a period, then halleck at ibtimes dot com.
I write for the tech team. We strive to do good work, and I can't answer for the organization as a whole, but I can tell you that in my experience, it is filled with smart people who are trying to turn a newer news organization into something that we, and you our readers, can be proud of.
I am interested in your thoughts, concerns and criticisms.
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I never discredited you but I definitely discredited the site you work for. In my experience ibtimes has made a good amount of useless articles. There has been nothing credible that I have read from ibtimes.
Androidpolice.com has been way more credible in my experience. Maybe it's your colleagues that have written these useless articles. Idk
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Well, I apologize for those useless stories. I would just say, feel free to discredit me if I am doing wrong. The reason I put the link to that message board in the story was to provide a source for the story. Let me know if anybody here has any ideas or questions, and know that I and my team are striving to be a reliable source for news.
If you have a problem with a story, you can (almost) always reach out to the reporter.
what do you folks think? it scans everything i install from the Play Store -- but seemingly only AFTER it's been installed. and really, if i only install from the Play Store, is there even a point?
AM Radio said:
what do you folks think? it scans everything i install from the Play Store -- but seemingly only AFTER it's been installed. and really, if i only install from the Play Store, is there even a point?
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I say all antiviruses on android are pointless. Android isn't really affected by viruses to be honest. If there are viruses, it would be on your memory card and you need a pc for that. This is my opinion though. Never had any viruses on any of the androids i've owned so far
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found this review
http://uk.pcmag.com/avg-antivirus-s...2/review/avg-antivirus-security-4-for-android
reviewer was not that impressed
The secret is that android itself is a virus, it makes its users crave updates and they begin to dribble, get irritated and have arguments when they see possible new features on the horizon.
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Imo you only need a virus scanner if you have realy no idea what you are doing and have the check mark "install untrusted apk" in security settings set .or you use a 3rd party app store. I think it is safe to assume that Google checks their app market for obscure apps.
When installing a new app just check the properties it may use, e.g. a background image supplier app should have no need to dail numbers or send texts, use your personal information etc.
Other than that, the avg supplied is bloatware / scareware and just a trail for 30 days.
I have the worst virus scanner on my PC (ms secueity essentials) it gives the impression of blocking the really bad stuff but doesn't eat all your resources as eg avg or McAfee does.
As long if you know the differents between a softonic installer and the real application you are fine
Cut the crap y'all. See the professional analysis here http://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/mobile-devices/android/january-2015/ and decide for yourself.
(I'm on Eset Mobile Security, for almost a year, never disappointed me http://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus.../eset-mobile-security-&-antivirus-3.0-150113/)
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Hiya,
I guess its debatable like task killer?
it really depends on what is defined as "anti virus" and what is "trusted"
are popular social network apps trustable? =p
ultimatsz said:
Hiya,
I guess its debatable like task killer?
it really depends on what is defined as "anti virus" and what is "trusted"
are popular social network apps trustable? =p
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Task Killers are NOT debatable, Google gave an official and final response years ago by explaining how memory management works on Android. I have a task killer, but I only use it manually to kill certain apps, not to free memory aka RAM but to prevent high CPU usage.
Anti-Viruses are always reviewed by the professionals, see the links I posted above.
Nothing on the Internet is trustable. Haven't you heard of NSA's PRISM program and other related stuffs exposed by Whistle-blower; Edward Snowden?
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I have this on my phone, tho has never found anything apart from a settings warning 'apps from unknown sources'
which I ignore tbh
asab1 said:
I have this on my phone, tho has never found anything apart from a settings warning 'apps from unknown sources'
which I ignore tbh
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That's because Android malware are still rare and it's a warning because most users are novice users.
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So based on the replies here... when im watching porn on my android, and i receive a pop up window stating "WARNING A VIRUS HAS BEEN DETECTED ON YOUR ANDROID DEVICE" .... there is no actual virus or malware/spyware? This isnt a troll question... i swear lol. And we all do it, quit judging me haha.
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Anti-Viruses are always reviewed by the professionals, see the links I posted above.
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Define "PROFESSIONAL"
Any normal person knows by now, that many internet professionals are helpless when facing real problems.
And BTW, I am a *real* professional, the smartest of the smartest because my mother told me so.
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So based on the replies here... when im watching porn on my android, and i receive a pop up window stating "WARNING A VIRUS HAS BEEN DETECTED ON YOUR ANDROID DEVICE" .... there is no actual virus or malware/spyware? This isnt a troll question... i swear lol. And we all do it, quit judging me haha.
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When you click OK, things may start happening. Google "stagefright".
However, if you have all the security patches, the risk is low.
And then again, the real viruses are something that anti-virus programs do nothing about. If you are important enough, your camera, your mic will be monitored despite of all the anti-viruses you would like to install.
You do not need to use anti-virus software, if you use Google Browser with warnings enabled, if you have disabled MMS and if you do not install programs outside of Google Play.
bookworth said:
Define "PROFESSIONAL"
Any normal person knows by now, that many internet professionals are helpless when facing real problems.
And BTW, I am a *real* professional, the smartest of the smartest because my mother told me so.
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Av-Test is a reputable organisation. Whether you consider them 'professional' or not is none of my concern. Have fun running an 'antivirus' app on Android. I'm done here.
http://www.av-test.org/en/about-the-institute
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Av-Test is a reputable organisation. Whether you consider them 'professional' or not is none of my concern. Have fun running an 'antivirus' app on Android. I'm done here.
http://www.av-test.org/en/about-the-institute
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Yes, they are reputable. And the results can be bought like with many German based reputable organizations. Like VW, Auto-Build (tyre-reviews) or (Bundesliga match making scandal).
The problem is not whether android phones need antivirus programs. Mostly they dont't. The problem however is if you can blindly believe organizations because they are "professionals".
And please, be done, don't reply, fly away, "captain".
Hey buddies,
I want to share my new app with you.
The app is not a "Nexus-only" project, but I developed it mostly for myself to get the battery indicator (%-text) back on my phone After I implemented that, I thought a proper clipboard-managment would be a nice feature, too. Many of you know LG's solution.
The reason why I'm providing this app here in the Nexus forum is that the app's theme (colors, layouts) is a replica of the stock Android-look (vanilla) - please don't take the word "replica" too serious, I just tried my very best
However, if you're interested to give it a try, you will...
.
Please note:
The app is free-of-charge and doesn't contain ads (I don't want to waste traffic and battery by shipping ads to you - maybe I will add a premium-key in a couple of days).
If you want to support the project (as translator, tester), please send me a mail.
Google community: <MOD EDIT - LINK REMOVED>
Screenshots:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Thanks in advance
Martin
Important note:
The app will expire after 21 days of free test-phase, but I don't want to earn money with you XDA-people, so if a dialog is shown, telling you that the test-phase is expired, please follow these two steps:
1. Do a long-click on "CANCEL" (keep it pressed for 2 sec.)
2. An ID is shown. Send this ID to me. Just touch it, choose your Email-app and send it to <MOD EDIT - LINK REMOVED> (I will unlock your app manually).
Thanks in advance.
Martin
Martini3001
Thank you for the great app,,,,
may I suggest,if possible, that you leave the data and clip tray up to the user to add or just keep the battery percentage by it self.
Thank you
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Martini3001
Thank you for the great app,,,,
may I suggest,if possible, that you leave the data and clip tray up to the user to add or just keep the battery percentage by it self.
Thank you
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Hey cturbos, thanks for your compliment. I'm not completely sure what you mean. Do you mean that clip- and network-notification can be disabled by the user? This feature should be working already, just uncheck the specific notification in the app's settings (you can find the settings when you swipe from the left to open the navigation drawer).
Or do you mean that the dialog (popup) will stay open / resume at a given point (aka "the last shown entry")?
Greetings
Martin
Thank you for the quick response, the network notification settings.
I'll try it, And get back to you.
Keep up the good work
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Clipboard notification should show up only when clipboard is not empty. Could you implement this?
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Important note:
The app will expire after 21 days of free test-phase, but I don't want to earn money with you XDA-people, so if a dialog is shown, telling you that the test-phase is expired, please follow these two steps:
1. Do a long-click on "CANCEL" (keep it pressed for 2 sec.)
2. An ID is shown. Send this ID to me. Just touch it, choose your Email-app and send it to [email protected] (I will unlock your app manually).
Feel free to leave a rating in GooglePlay.
Thanks in advance.
Martin
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Not sure if this is the way you want to go...it may be better to provide an xda version that doesn't have the license check...collecting emails of users, even as a kind gesture (and it is really kind of you to offer this) may not be the best means, as it's akin to site registration (or at least could be construed as similar enough).
Sent from my Nexus 6P, #WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
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Not sure if this is the way you want to go...it may be better to provide an xda version that doesn't have the license check...collecting emails of users, even as a kind gesture (and it is really kind of you to offer this) may not be the best means, as it's akin to site registration (or at least could be construed as similar enough).
Sent from my Nexus 6P, #WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
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Hello micmars,
I can understand your opinion and I totally agree with you. Collecting personal data may bring trouble in a project (let me tell you, that I am from Germany and we have one of the strictest privacy legals worldwide, so I really take care about these aspects when I'm releasing an app).
M104 doesn't take the email to verify the app's state. Please check the permissions, I' not able to receive users' personal data (such as email).
ALL required permission:
Code:
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.RECEIVE_BOOT_COMPLETED"/>
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.BATTERY_STATS"/>
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE"/>
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.ACCESS_WIFI_STATE"/>
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.READ_SYNC_SETTINGS"/>
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.INTERNET"/>
These permissions are needed to ship the functionality the app has today.
Collecting data manually (by hand) is much too unhandy to (re)sell it.
If someone suspects this information isn't true, he can send me the ID without using the personal email-address (I assume everybody has a fake mail).
And there are other ways to send me the ID:
- Leave me a private message here on XDA
- Send me a letter containing the ID shown in the dialog (oldschool solution)
- Call me or contact me in GooglePlus
There are plenty of ways to contact me, without telling me "who you are".
Shipping two different versions sadly has the disadvantage that the statistics (rating in GooglePlay and statistics by Google Analytics*) are collected in two different scopes and will end in a development process which consumes more time and is more difficult to read/understand (and brings no improvements in terms of quality and stability).
*Please note that Analytics can be disabled by the user.
And to say it clear, if developers aim to harm users, they would implement functionality most users don't think of.
I guess it's not wrong to be interested in tech and feel better to know who made your software.
Regards
Martin
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Clipboard notification should show up only when clipboard is not empty. Could you implement this?
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Should be working since 0.1.2 (released Jan. 12th)... You can check your version in setting "Build-Version" (last entry).
Martini3001 said:
Hello micmars,
I can understand your opinion and I totally agree with you. Collecting personal data may bring trouble in a project (let me tell you, that I am from Germany and we have one of the strictest privacy legals worldwide, so I really take care about these aspects when I'm releasing an app).
M104 doesn't take the email to verify the app's state. Please check the permissions, I' not able to receive users' personal data (such as email).
ALL required permission:
Code:
These permissions are needed to ship the functionality the app has today.
Collecting data manually (by hand) is much too unhandy to (re)sell it.
If someone suspects this information isn't true, he can send me the ID without using the personal email-address (I assume everybody has a fake mail).
And there are other ways to send me the ID:
- Leave me a private message here on XDA
- Send me a letter containing the ID shown in the dialog (oldschool solution)
- Call me or contact me in GooglePlus
There are plenty of ways to contact me, without telling me "who you are".
Shipping two different versions sadly has the disadvantage that the statistics (rating in GooglePlay and statistics by Google Analytics*) are collected in two different scopes and will end in a development process which consumes more time and is more difficult to read/understand (and brings no improvements in terms of quality and stability).
*Please note that Analytics can be disabled by the user.
And to say it clear, if developers aim to harm users, they would implement functionality most users don't think of.
I guess it's not wrong to be interested in tech and feel better to know who made your software.
Regards
Martin
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All of this is well and good, but it seems that you're doing it for sake of expediency as opposed to doing that which is within the confines of providing your app to xda users.
Ultimately, I would rather see your app on the forums, and see you staying within the confines of that which xda allows.
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Martini3001 said:
Hello micmars,
I can understand your opinion and I totally agree with you. Collecting personal data may bring trouble in a project (let me tell you, that I am from Germany and we have one of the strictest privacy legals worldwide, so I really take care about these aspects when I'm releasing an app).
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These permissions are needed to ship the functionality the app has today.
Collecting data manually (by hand) is much too unhandy to (re)sell it.
If someone suspects this information isn't true, he can send me the ID without using the personal email-address (I assume everybody has a fake mail).
And there are other ways to send me the ID:
- Leave me a private message here on XDA
- Send me a letter containing the ID shown in the dialog (oldschool solution)
- Call me or contact me in GooglePlus
There are plenty of ways to contact me, without telling me "who you are".
Shipping two different versions sadly has the disadvantage that the statistics (rating in GooglePlay and statistics by Google Analytics*) are collected in two different scopes and will end in a development process which consumes more time and is more difficult to read/understand (and brings no improvements in terms of quality and stability).
*Please note that Analytics can be disabled by the user.
And to say it clear, if developers aim to harm users, they would implement functionality most users don't think of.
I guess it's not wrong to be interested in tech and feel better to know who made your software.
Regards
Martin
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Unfortunately it can't work like that on this site. Either you need to provide a license-free version (i.e. XDA version that has core functionality in tact) or you cannot promote your app via email/PM with IDs. Given that your intentions are good, the fact that you want to have Users send their product IDs through their email address that you will inherently have "on-file" constitutes data farming. As simple as it may be, you cannot "require" someone to send you an email from the personal or otherwise email address for full functionality of said app.
With that said, you can however do a few things. The first is the XDA version that has core functionality that runs when installed. When I say core, I mean the core components have to work as advertised, however you can have add-ons that expand the operations of the app for in-app purchase/donation. As long as the app can run its basic functions unimpeded, then that is fine. OR...You can also set up a Beta-Testers group on the Play Store where you can invite Users to help test features and future development. Since that is outside of XDA jurisdiction, that will rely on Google Developer Standards and their policy to implement and enforce.
Sorry and I assume from reading the past few pages that your intention is passive and peaceful, but the rules of the site are clear about this.
micmars said:
All of this is well and good, but it seems that you're doing it for sake of expediency as opposed to doing that which is within the confines of providing your app to xda users.
Ultimately, I would rather see your app on the forums, and see you staying within the confines of that which xda allows.
Sent from my Nexus 6P, #WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
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I agree and if there is any confusion about how this needs to be set up and running, OP can contact the Forum Moderators in charge of this section. They are listed at the tope of each individual N6P sections. OP, all you have to do is click on Themes and look at the top.
micmars said:
All of this is well and good, but it seems that you're doing it for sake of expediency as opposed to doing that which is within the confines of providing your app to xda users.
Ultimately, I would rather see your app on the forums, and see you staying within the confines of that which xda allows.
Sent from my Nexus 6P, #WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
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Well, what exactly is wrong with the app or the way I am providing this to the users?
If I am not allowed to show my app here, feel free to mark / close / delete this thread. Since the last 7 days 7 user thanked here (some of them twice), I don't see a reason why this should be that bad.
If someone requests a feature I will implement it asap, if someone finds a bug I will fix it asap and if someone need help, I will do my best to help him out finding a proper solution.
Maybe you think I'm planning to reach 10 Mio. users, but that isn't. As I said, I made this app mostly for my own and after some friends tried it, I decided to improve the features. Still studying comp. science, not working as an professional app developer and earning >100k$ p.m..
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Given that your intentions are good, the fact that you want to have Users send their product IDs through their email address that you will inherently have "on-file" constitutes data farming.
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Given that my intentions are bad and I try to farm data, wouldn't it be much easier and effective to send every snipped the clipboard receives to a server and ship this app (unofficially in a forum) without telling the user where I live / how to contact me?
Keep in mind: Only permission "Internet" is needed and nearly EVERY app is able do this (and there are many of other flaws in the security model).
Sorry, I still don't see a benefit of a xda-version and I still don't see how I can farm data by receiving an ID.
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Given that my intentions are bad and I try to farm data, wouldn't it be much easier and effective to send every snipped the clipboard receives to a server and ship this app (unofficially in a forum) without telling the user where I live / how to contact me?
Keep in mind: Only permission "Internet" is needed and nearly EVERY app is able do this (and there are many of other flaws in the security model).
Sorry, I still don't see a benefit of a xda-version and I still don't see how I can farm data by receiving an ID.
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Lol, so you want this on principle?
It's quite simple...there are hundreds of apps on these forums that follow the trajectory of exactly that which has been provided to you...xda version, Play Store version, and none has an issue with it.
I'm not a moderator, but the individual whom responded to you is.
As I noted from my first post on this topic, I think that it would be good for your app to remain on the forums, and also good if you had a paid version on the Play Store. That stated, the xda version cannot have any machinations whatsoever to collect user email addresses or any other identifying information.
If available on xda, you must offer a version of your software that is fully functional, offered at no cost, and requires no identifying information from the user.
That's the standard. Either follow it or don't.
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Martini3001 said:
Sorry, I still don't see a benefit of a xda-version and I still don't see how I can farm data by receiving an ID.
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Regardless of whether or not you see a benefit of it, it is what it is. You either need to provide a version that has core functionality without a license or pull your links.
A Guide to Paid Work on XDA-Developers
And it isn't the ID that is used in relation to farming, it is the email from which they come. Case in point, your email is in Post #2. That can be used very easily to gain all sorts of information on you with relatively minimal effort. Requiring someone to send you an email that is outside of the checks of the Play Store venue to gain access to app function is against the XDA rules.
FSM @Perseus will handle this from here, as it is his team's section to moderate.
Martini3001 said:
Given that my intentions are bad and I try to farm data, wouldn't it be much easier and effective to send every snipped the clipboard receives to a server and ship this app (unofficially in a forum) without telling the user where I live / how to contact me?
Keep in mind: Only permission "Internet" is needed and nearly EVERY app is able do this (and there are many of other flaws in the security model).
Sorry, I still don't see a benefit of a xda-version and I still don't see how I can farm data by receiving an ID.
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We know that you have nothing but good intentions at heart. This you have made clear in more than one post so far. Which is exactly why the thread is still operational. You have been very forthright in listing the Permissions needed by the app.
Having said that, as I see it, your problem with creating a XDA Edition of the app is that your analytics is fragmented. (rating in GooglePlay and statistics by Google Analytics). I can understand that. But the XDA Rules have been in place to avoid use of XDA as commercial Advertisement for a paid app in Play Store. I know that you have made it pretty clear, that you have no such intentions. But the rules have to be uniformly applied. I hope you understand that. Having said that, there are quiet a few Paid apps listed in Our Community Apps. (Link bellow). They follow a fairly similar model. Specifically the author of BetterBatteryStats app had in past made clear he has the same intentions as you.
Speaking of analytics, you might want to review the subforums of Marketing, Distribution, and Analytics forum. You might want to review following questions in the Analytics subforum
[Q] How do you app developers prefer to track of your apps?
Good alternatives to Google Analytics for Android?
You are welcome to post your question there as well, should you feel like it.
Oh and by the way since this app is not more global for all devices, have you considered listing in XDA Community Apps. Also you might want to consider having your app listed in XDA Labs for additional visibility.
On on OT Note - For the sake of all that holy, don't be defensive. We are here to help not impede your idea. I have an LG and I know exactly what you mean. Feel free to PM me, should you need to take offline.
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On on OT Note - For the sake of all that holy, don't be defensive. We are here to help not impede your idea.
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Amen...I think these words should be put at the top of every place on this site where the rules are posted...this is the most succinct and clearly wrought statement of the spirit of xda as I've read.
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Great app! Can you add in a way to change temp from Celsius to Fahrenheit please?
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XRaptor29 said:
Great app! Can you add in a way to change temp from Celsius to Fahrenheit please?
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Thanks Yes, available in a 2-3 hours (0.1.5).
OP HAS NOT MADE A COMPLETELY FREE VERSION PER XDA RULES. Thread closed and links removed.
OP Check your PM.