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[Q] Locked bootloader?

I'm contemplating the idea of pre-ordering the X on Verizon because I love Moto's build quality. I had a Razr Maxx for a while and I loved the phone and, of course, the battery life. The only thing that really killed it for me was the locked bootloader. Has there been any word on whether or not it'll be locked on the VZW version? I'm hoping that since Google now owns Moto they'll allow the option to unlock it.

Lockett said:
I'm contemplating the idea of pre-ordering the X on Verizon because I love Moto's build quality. I had a Razr Maxx for a while and I loved the phone and, of course, the battery life. The only thing that really killed it for me was the locked bootloader. Has there been any word on whether or not it'll be locked on the VZW version? I'm hoping that since Google now owns Moto they'll allow the option to unlock it.
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Verizon Retail and AT&T Retail are locked. All other variants are unlockable, including a Verizon Developer Edition and North American Developer Edition.

mattlgroff said:
Verizon Retail and AT&T Retail are locked. All other variants are unlockable, including a Verizon Developer Edition and North American Developer Edition.
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Ahh that's what I figured would happen. They did the same thing with Razr's.

I saw this option to unlock the bootloader, through Motorola's Developer page. But it seems that if you unlocked the bootloader, you're forgoing the warranty on the device.

hidea said:
I saw this option to unlock the bootloader, through Motorola's Developer page. But it seems that if you unlocked the bootloader, you're forgoing the warranty on the device.
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That's how it is with any device, such as the Galaxy Nexus. I'm sure someone will come up with a program to root/unlock and unroot/lock.

Moto X (can bootloader be unlocked)

Thinking about the Moto X, the GSM edition, not the developer edition because I understand the developer version comes in white back and black front. I want all white Moto X. So because I am not getting the developer edition can I still unlock the bootloader??? I tried checking before asking this and could not find the answer.
Thanks, Vinny

vinnyjr said:
Thinking about the Moto X, the GSM edition, not the developer edition because I understand the developer version comes in white back and black front. I want all white Moto X. So because I am not getting the developer edition can I still unlock the bootloader??? I tried checking before asking this and could not find the answer.
Thanks, Vinny
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it depends.
if you buy the t-mobile one on motorola.com its unlockable. if you get the at&t one it is not unlockable.
if you buy a rogers canada one its unlockable. if you buy a telcel or claro latin america unit they are unlockable. if you buy a mexico nextel GSM one it is not unlockable (some people are holding out hope that its a mistake and will have its IMEIs added to the unlock list..).

sleepyguy007 said:
it depends.
if you buy the t-mobile one on motorola.com its unlockable. if you get the at&t one it is not unlockable.
if you buy a rogers canada one its unlockable. if you buy a telcel or claro latin america unit they are unlockable. if you buy a mexico nextel GSM one it is not unlockable (some people are holding out hope that its a mistake and will have its IMEIs added to the unlock list..).
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Thanks for the fast reply. Great information.
Vinny

If you're asking if the BOOTLOADER can be unlocked, as of right now, no.
If you're asking about carrier unlock, then you can go by sleepy guys answer.
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wturner859 said:
If you're asking if the BOOTLOADER can be unlocked, as of right now, no.
If you're asking about carrier unlock, then you can go by sleepy guys answer.
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Well, it's not a "no." Like the poster said above, it depends on your carrier. VZW and ATT are a no go.

I have a Latin America Moto X (Movistar Chile), but when I try to unlock the bootloader, the Motorola Page throws me "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"

I have a Fido Canada version of this phone and I'm trying to unlock the boot loader but it tells me I'm not eligible . i know the my phone is the same as rogers. Why am I not able to?
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pjcordi said:
I have a Fido Canada version of this phone and I'm trying to unlock the boot loader but it tells me I'm not eligible . i know the my phone is the same as rogers. Why am I not able to?
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Carrier needs to provide Motorola with the OK to allow the unlocking the bootloader, obviously Fido hasn't given them the OK, see if you can return it and pick up the rogers version at full price and use your Fido Sim card,you shouldn't have to Sim unlock as we all know Rogers is Fido's parent company
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Okay well my phone is on contract. Im pretty sure the Rogers and Fido phone are the exact same. I don't think they would trade mine in for a rogers. Is there any other way to unlock the boot loader? Will there be one in the future?
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Basically the problem is some carriers are not giving their imei lists to Motorola to have those phones in the unlock program. Thats probably why there are some Latin America units that can't unlock

pjcordi said:
Okay well my phone is on contract. Im pretty sure the Rogers and Fido phone are the exact same. I don't think they would trade mine in for a rogers. Is there any other way to unlock the boot loader? Will there be one in the future?
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Being Fido makes no difference, it runs the Rogers firmware and is unlockable. Its looking like several people have tried to unlock bootloaders today(including me) and the Motorola website has said they are not eligible. So my conclusion at this point is that the backend server that handles the codes is down/broken.

sleepyguy007 said:
it depends.
if you buy the t-mobile one on motorola.com its unlockable. if you get the at&t one it is not unlockable.
if you buy a rogers canada one its unlockable. if you buy a telcel or claro latin america unit they are unlockable. if you buy a mexico nextel GSM one it is not unlockable (some people are holding out hope that its a mistake and will have its IMEIs added to the unlock list..).
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For the Nextel Mexico XT1053, It has been confirmed that is a mistake as can be seen in this thread on Motorola's Website. They are working the issue, but it may take more time.

GoClifGo05 said:
Well, it's not a "no." Like the poster said above, it depends on your carrier. VZW and ATT are a no go.
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Wrong. I contacted Moto. The GSM unlocked version is NOT bootloader unlockable. My unlock code does not work. I am sending it back.

neotenshi said:
I have a Latin America Moto X (Movistar Chile), but when I try to unlock the bootloader, the Motorola Page throws me "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"
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Carrier needs to provide Motorola with the OK to allow the unlocking the bootloader,
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^^^^ This...
If the carrier doesn't want Moto to let you unlock, you can't. Motorola's web site for unlocking will tell you your device doesn't qualify and there is nothing you can do.
Moto's web site does list some information on carriers and which can be unlocked. See -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215

As far as which motos that can not be unlocked 2 are unable, Verizon and AT&T consumer versions, all other motos have the unlockable boot loader to date.
If you have attempted to unlock and get ineligible, then your imei has not yet been entered into motos system. When calling the "not the Sharpe's knifes in the drawer" folks at moto, please establish what you wish to unlock your BOOT LOADER not SIM UNLOCKED because they normally ASSume the sim
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet

KidJoe said:
^^^^ This...
If the carrier doesn't want Moto to let you unlock, you can't. Motorola's web site for unlocking will tell you your device doesn't qualify and there is nothing you can do.
Moto's web site does list some information on carriers and which can be unlocked. See -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
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The off contract, GSM unlocked phone has nothing to do with carrier's wishes. I have this phone with an activated TMO sim and it is not eligible for unlock, period. This is sold directly by Motorola and is supplied with a TMO sim. TMO has no issue with bootloader unlocks, so it's not the carrier - this model is not bootloader unlockable.
flashallthetime said:
As far as which motos that can not be unlocked 2 are unable, Verizon and AT&T consumer versions, all other motos have the unlockable boot loader to date.
If you have attempted to unlock and get ineligible, then your imei has not yet been entered into motos system. When calling the "not the Sharpe's knifes in the drawer" folks at moto, please establish what you wish to unlock your BOOT LOADER not SIM UNLOCKED because they normally ASSume the sim
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
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Been there, done that. I was told by Moto that my off contract, unlocked full price GSM Moto X shipped with the Tmobile sim is not bootloader unlockable. The two people I spoke with fully understood the difference between sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked, and also knew that bootloader unlocking automatically voids the warranty except on the Developer version.

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attn1 said:
The off contract, GSM unlocked phone has nothing to do with carrier's wishes. I have this phone with an activated TMO sim and it is not eligible for unlock, period. This is sold directly by Motorola and is supplied with a TMO sim. TMO has no issue with bootloader unlocks, so it's not the carrier - this model is not bootloader unlockable.
Been there, done that. I was told by Moto that my off contract, unlocked full price GSM Moto X shipped with the Tmobile sim is not bootloader unlockable. The two people I spoke with fully understood the difference between sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked, and also knew that bootloader unlocking automatically voids the warranty except on the Developer version.
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So your situation is totally different than any other situation, normally T-Mobile phones are unlockable, so Motorola has itself made your unlockable
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet

flashallthetime said:
So your situation is totally different than any other situation, normally T-Mobile phones are unlockable, so Motorola has itself made your unlockable
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
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Update: Moto just sent me a note saying that their system may not be updated with my IMEI yet, but once it is, the warranty is automatically and uncategorically voided when I apply for the unlock code. Since it's the 32GB version, I'll still RMA it and get the Developer version instead. It's the exact same money and unlocking the developer version does not void the warranty.

attn1 said:
Update: Moto just sent me a note saying that their system may not be updated with my IMEI yet, but once it is, the warranty is automatically and uncategorically voided when I apply for the unlock code. Since it's the 32GB version, I'll still RMA it and get the Developer version instead. It's the exact same money and unlocking the developer version does not void the warranty.
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So the 2 idiots you spoke to are wrong, you can unlock
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[Question] [Bootloader] So I just unlocked my XT1058 Bootloader...

Got the code right from Motorola. Is this normal? Did I miss something or is it still supposed to be really hard to do on the Moto X?
Also, have any breakthroughs been made as far as SIM unlock goes?

Not sure about your carrier... But many Moto X's can be unlocked on the Moto site. At the sacrifice of the warranty, aside from Dev Edition. And most Sims can be unlocked on an unlock website.
I have the x1058, Rogers version. Unlocked bootloader and sim unlocked for 12 bucks from a site.... The night I got it.
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Verizon, at&t and Republic wireless can't be unlocked on moto site. That's all.

XT1774 - Verizon Variant - Subsidy unlock does NOT enable bootloader unlocking

Hey y'all, Verizon Moto E4 Plus (XT1774) owner here. I've seen a couple posts on XDA and other Android forums about bootloader unlocking for Verizon-specific Moto devices relating to subsidy (SIM) unlocking.
As we all know, the XT1774's bootloader is locked, there is no way around that yet. I have seen people mention that subsidy unlocking allowed their bootloader to be unlocked, but from my testing that is not true.
I tried an H20-Wireless sim, and an US Cellular sim; obviously I also got an unlock code. Neither of the sims changed my get_unlock_data, so neither would unlock the bootloader.
Just wanted to disprove any of these claims so no one wastes their time. Thanks.

A.Fitz said:
Hey y'all, Verizon Moto E4 Plus (XT1774) owner here. I've seen a couple posts on XDA and other Android forums about bootloader unlocking for Verizon-specific Moto devices relating to subsidy (SIM) unlocking.
As we all know, the XT1774's bootloader is locked, there is no way around that yet. I have seen people mention that subsidy unlocking allowed their bootloader to be unlocked, but from my testing that is not true.
I tried an H20-Wireless sim, and an US Cellular sim; obviously I also got an unlock code. Neither of the sims changed my get_unlock_data, so neither would unlock the bootloader.
Just wanted to disprove any of these claims so no one wastes their time. Thanks.
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You are correct. If unlocking your bootloader to customize the device is the goal, you need to steer clear of any Verizon branded devices. ATT, Sprint and a few others will also not allow bootloaders to be unlocked.
I have found that to be safe, purchase the device straight from Motorola as an unlocked device (Any US carrier/international) is the way to go. You will not get a discount like you do when purchasing through a carrier or big store name like Walmart but you will get a device that allows for bootloader unlocking.

glockman4519 said:
You are correct. If unlocking your bootloader to customize the device is the goal, you need to steer clear of any Verizon branded devices. ATT, Sprint and a few others will also not allow bootloaders to be unlocked.
I have found that to be safe, purchase the device straight from Motorola as an unlocked device (Any US carrier/international) is the way to go. You will not get a discount like you do when purchasing through a carrier or big store name like Walmart but you will get a device that allows for bootloader unlocking.
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I don't know about ATT, but all the Sprint/boost/virgin mobile devices ARE unlockable. It's only the Verizon variant that isn't. This is how it's been for some time.

aj2333 said:
I don't know about ATT, but all the Sprint/boost/virgin mobile devices ARE unlockable. It's only the Verizon variant that isn't. This is how it's been for some time.
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I agree, but lately, Sprint has stopped support for bootloader unlocking. I read this directly from there site. It may be a little while tool it trickles down to current production devices but beware. And I am taking about Sprint Branded devices, and not devices you bring in on your own.

glockman4519 said:
I agree, but lately, Sprint has stopped support for bootloader unlocking. I read this directly from there site. It may be a little while tool it trickles down to current production devices but beware. And I am taking about Sprint Branded devices, and not devices you bring in on your own.
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Thanks for the heads-up. I guess I'll have to start buying retail models. A little more $, but I'm very tired of the cdma data problems on custom ROMs every time there's a new Android version or new device anyway.

aj2333 said:
Thanks for the heads-up. I guess I'll have to start buying retail models. A little more $, but I'm very tired of the cdma data problems on custom ROMs every time there's a new Android version or new device anyway.
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I hear ya. Where I live Verizon is there only network that is any good/dependable. As much as I despise BigRed, I have to use it. If I had my way I would go Boost Mobile or any other GSM network carrier. That would open up the doors for my YouTube channel and allow me to test more devices the right way and not just in WiFi. I love my OnePlus5 but can only use it with WiFi. So I can't fully enjoy it. But it would in GSM.

They do make a device that is unlocked for the US Big 4 carriers and that's what I bought. Subsidy unlock to my knowledge does not bootloader unlock your device. If I see a really good Rom come out, I'll look at it, but Motorola did a really terrific job keeping what they did to it "light". At the price I paid for it ($159.99); I might buy another one and store it, though I have read a few threads that indicate that Motorola won't update the device to Oreo.

berrywr said:
They do make a device that is unlocked for the US Big 4 carriers and that's what I bought. Subsidy unlock to my knowledge does not bootloader unlock your device. If I see a really good Rom come out, I'll look at it, but Motorola did a really terrific job keeping what they did to it "light". At the price I paid for it ($159.99); I might buy another one and store it, though I have read a few threads that indicate that Motorola won't update the device to Oreo.
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I see if you got your device from Walmart. It will would be able to remove the bootloader? Do I have have to get Verizon to take the lock off? Or has anyone been able to take the bootloader off of Walmart prepaid Verizon xt1774? This will be my first build. I could use all the advice and help! Thanks

Waltdizzle said:
I see if you got your device from Walmart. It will would be able to remove the bootloader? Do I have have to get Verizon to take the lock off? Or has anyone been able to take the bootloader off of Walmart prepaid Verizon xt1774? This will be my first build. I could use all the advice and help! Thanks
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You cannot unlock the bootloader of the XT1774. No ifs, and, nor buts.

just got new one today and was gonna to use xposed-after do some reading...smh, should have read before buying to make sure all is set to unlock and flash

Root without unlocking bootloader?

I accidentally bought the Verizon locked variant of the pixel 5. Now I can't unlock bootloader to flash the custom rims. Is gaining root access possible without unlocking the bootloader? If not, how would I go about unlocking the bootloader on this unnecessarily locked down pixel 5?

Deitybrother13 said:
I accidentally bought the Verizon locked variant of the pixel 5. Now I can't unlock bootloader to flash the custom rims. Is gaining root access possible without unlocking the bootloader? If not, how would I go about unlocking the bootloader on this unnecessarily locked down pixel 5?
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No root without unlocking the bootloader and the Verizon models cannot be unlocked.

Deitybrother13 said:
I accidentally bought the Verizon locked variant of the pixel 5. Now I can't unlock bootloader to flash the custom rims. Is gaining root access possible without unlocking the bootloader? If not, how would I go about unlocking the bootloader on this unnecessarily locked down pixel 5?
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How do you just "accidently" buy a Verizon locked phone?? Just like everybody else that bought a Verizon locked phone you'll never unlock the bootloader. Take it back if it's not doin it for you

thatsupnow said:
How do you just "accidently" buy a Verizon locked phone?? Just like everybody else that bought a Verizon locked phone you'll never unlock the bootloader. Take it back if it's not doin it for you
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I got it from best buy, and they activated it on verizon for me. It was supposed to be the unlocked model.

Deitybrother13 said:
I got it from best buy, and they activated it on verizon for me. It was supposed to be the unlocked model.
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"Unlocked" in most people's minds is carrier unlock. The subset that cares and knows about BL unlock is very small. Another good measuring stick is discounts. If there is a discount beyond what you can get at the Google store, it is likely a carrier specific device and will have the BL locked permanently.

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"Unlocked" in most people's minds is carrier unlock. The subset that cares and knows about BL unlock is very small. Another good measuring stick is discounts. If there is a discount beyond what you can get at the Google store, it is likely a carrier specific device and will have the BL locked permanently.
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This is really not directed towards you, I know for a fact you know all this. I don't even think the sales people at BB know what bl unlock means. And unlocked has nothing to do with the ability to bootloader unlock, I just can't believe that this is still an issue for some folks. As for carrier devices you are entirely correct, however, I do believe that the only carrier that will permanently lock the OEM switch is Verizon but I could be wrong on that one. Even TM will allow you to bl unlock once you pay off the device. Verizon will never ever allow it. So the previous poster, even though the rep activated it on Verizon, it's device specific. I bought my P5 directly from Google and immediately activated it on Verizon with a physical sim and an eSim also on VZW. My OEM switch is still active to bl unlock it.
One final point, which I've made before, even Google sells a Verizon P5 through the Google store. If you buy that one it will not allow you to bl unlock no matter what you do. So I'm assuming BB has the same kind of setup, if you buy the VZW device you are **** out of luck. I once got stuck with a VZW Pixel and couldn't activate the eSim due to some silly VZW policy. It took me a month of phone calls to get refunded so never again. And I don't even bl unlock my devices any longer, but I want the option. Hey, you never know. lol

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This is really not directed towards you, I know for a fact you know all this. I don't even think the sales people at BB know what bl unlock means. And unlocked has nothing to do with the ability to bootloader unlock, I just can't believe that this is still an issue for some folks. As for carrier devices you are entirely correct, however, I do believe that the only carrier that will permanently lock the OEM switch is Verizon but I could be wrong on that one. Even TM will allow you to bl unlock once you pay off the device. Verizon will never ever allow it. So the previous poster, even though the rep activated it on Verizon, it's device specific. I bought my P5 directly from Google and immediately activated it on Verizon with a physical sim and an eSim also on VZW. My OEM switch is still active to bl unlock it.
One final point, which I've made before, even Google sells a Verizon P5 through the Google store. If you buy that one it will not allow you to bl unlock no matter what you do. So I'm assuming BB has the same kind of setup, if you buy the VZW device you are **** out of luck. I once got stuck with a VZW Pixel and couldn't activate the eSim due to some silly VZW policy. It took me a month of phone calls to get refunded so never again. And I don't even bl unlock my devices any longer, but I want the option. Hey, you never know. lol
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The Verizon version and the unlocked version were the same price. But both of them had discounts if you activated service at checkout.

Deitybrother13 said:
The Verizon version and the unlocked version were the same price. But both of them had discounts if you activated service at checkout.
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Yeah, I know that. I never did understand the particulars of that but I'm sure it has something to do with money of some sort to someone. There was always too much fine print and conditions. I'm pretty much stuck on Pixel now so I'll only buy from Google and hope for some kind of discount. On the P5 I got $50 off for something or other. If I were to buy an iPhone I would go to an Apple store. But the other members of my family have all carrier branded devices because they don't give a darn about unlocked carrier or bl able.

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The Verizon version and the unlocked version were the same price. But both of them had discounts if you activated service at checkout.
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As far as I know, every Pixel device sold by Best Buy is Verizon branded. I don't remember where I learned that from, but get your phones from elsewhere.