Has anyone else noticed this.......?
I guess I am one of the fortunate ones who have the GPS somewhat "working" and I tend to use it quite a bit... Normally, I just put the phone on my car mount, open up gps, navigate, boom......works good....most of the time..... However, I have noticed that charging my phone while running my Google Nav app causes HUGE accuracy problems...in fact, I cant use it at all. The app thinks I am on different streets, tries to recalculate route, thinks I jumped to another street, thinks I am going in the opposite direction I am heading, keeps thinking I am on the freeway when Im not, etc.
When I unplug the phone charger from the phone, it works ok again. Anyone else seen this?
Nope. Mine works the same whether its plugged in or not. I have noticed that the battery gets hot sometimes when I use GPS for a long time with the charger going.
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creepyncrawly said:
Nope. Mine works the same whether its plugged in or not. I have noticed that the battery gets hot sometimes when I use GPS for a long time with the charger going.
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Ditto, same either way.
Which is working!
Odd. Maybe its my charger then. I have tried two car chargers and they both cause crazy innacuracies to my gps. What are the output ratings of your car chargers if you dont mind?
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Odd. Maybe its my charger then. I have tried two car chargers and they both cause crazy innacuracies to my gps. What are the output ratings of your car chargers if you dont mind?
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I don't know for sure. Mine is a cheap foreign model, but supposedly with a regulator chip inside. I suppose probably 700 ma.
i haven't seen any problems with my gps while using the charger if anything i believe it runs a little better, google navigation works pretty awesome on my phone, i'm running cognition 9.1.3 and only made one adjustment to the gps settings which is i turned it from hot start to cold start because i wasnt getting any gps locks
ps. before using navigation i usually open lbstestmode, and run get position when it finds a lock, i press the home key to exit out of it but it allows it to keep running, by doing this i have around a 10 sec lock on time with 5 to 10 meter accuracy, even with tracking, if i don't it takes a while for google maps to find me and it usually has me pointing the wrong way
i use an ebay dock for my phone when its charging, its nothing more than a holder really and the usb charger simply plugs into it which then plugs into the phone in landscape orientation.
i want to launch car mode every time i put the phone in the dock ie. when its charging. it would also be nice to kill the car app when i remove from charger.
how can i do this without tasker??
i tried tasker after reading all the good reviews, but it was pretty terrible in use, used more RAM than htc sense all the time when running in foreground, and after putting in charger, took 20-30 secs for the dock mode to come up.... it was also unable to kill the car mode, no idea why.
thanks
Try Liveware app from market (can't post link, too little posts)
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djbenny1 said:
i use an ebay dock for my phone when its charging, its nothing more than a holder really and the usb charger simply plugs into it which then plugs into the phone in landscape orientation.
i want to launch car mode every time i put the phone in the dock ie. when its charging. it would also be nice to kill the car app when i remove from charger.
how can i do this without tasker??
i tried tasker after reading all the good reviews, but it was pretty terrible in use, used more RAM than htc sense all the time when running in foreground, and after putting in charger, took 20-30 secs for the dock mode to come up.... it was also unable to kill the car mode, no idea why.
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Or you could install ASE (http://google-opensource.blogspot.ca/2009/06/introducing-android-scripting.html) and write a script of your choice.
U can use automate it.. nifty little app
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Try Liveware app from market (can't post link, too little posts)
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thats a nice app - itll do, unfortunately it doesnt close the app afterwards but it suits my needs better than tasker.
thanks!
Today I decided to open my free car dock I got from ATT with the matrix HD and I set it up next to my bed on my nightstand. This all seemed fine and dandy until tonight I put it in the car dock and connected the power and the phone promptly went into "vehicle mode" with no way out until I unplugged it. What I want to do is just use the car dock normally with the phone without being in vehicle mode. I checked in the app info and it cannot be disabled and I do not want to delete any system apps. Does anyone know of any way to go about this? I am rooted running JB 4.1.1
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Nevermind I figured it out, all I did was right when vehicle mode opened I hit disagree for their little liability thing then I hit the back button a couple times and the phone is in its regular state now.
Fantastic idea! Thanks. I really didn't want to put it on my front windshield it case it messes up the tints so it has been just sitting there.
One thing I did notice however, it that the screen never shuts off when its in the dock for some reason so it doesn't charge my MAXX battery overnight in it
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Fantastic idea! Thanks. I really didn't want to put it on my front windshield it case it messes up the tints so it has been just sitting there.
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You can also attach the surface adapter to your dash-top.
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One thing I did notice however, it that the screen never shuts off when its in the dock for some reason so it doesn't charge my MAXX battery overnight in it
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I've not had any such issue, my drive up from work is about 15 minutes and mine usually gets about 2-3% charge on the way home from work with the screen on the whole way.
I have a tylt wireless charger that I keep my Turbo on at work, and every time I take the phone off and set it back down, I get the full screen notification that wireless charging is detected and to make sure my phone is centered on the charger. It gets really annoying, and I wasnt able to find any setting of where this message/screen can be turned off. At first I thought it was one of those training things that only bugs you the first few times, but nope, 2 months..
Any suggestions?
Sorry, I have no solution but I just wanted to agree and say that this animation is really not necessary. Maybe the first few times, yeah, but not every time. I miss being able to customize things with root and custom roms. I did notice that after the latest firmware update, it no longer unlocks to the home screen after you set it on the charger. It will now stay on the lock screen if it is locked when you set it down to charge. It is an improvement, although a minor one.
On the bright side it doesn't make a god awful sound like the Droid Maxx did. Hopefully it gets root soon and this can be disabled.
Quick question for you guys: I'm using the Tylt at work too, is it just me or does it take FOREVER to get a full charge?
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Quick question for you guys: I'm using the Tylt at work too, is it just me or does it take FOREVER to get a full charge?
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1) its wireless charging
2) its a huge battery
so yes it will take forever to charge lol
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1) its wireless charging
2) its a huge battery
so yes it will take forever to charge lol
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So on my wireless charger, I actually have to use the TURBO charger or it will not work. My charging times are not terribly slower, at least during the TURBO phase, at the top off phase it is a bit slower, but not bad. Maybe try the TURBO brick and see if that helps.
I'm currently using a wireless charger that doesn't display that dialog. All of the others that I use trigger the placement dialog. Strange!
This is similar to the stupid volume notification every time you turn up the headphones volume close to max. A Don't show this again check box would work wonders in both these situations
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I figured out an easy way to disable this notification on my Droid Turbo 2. All you have to do is go into your Apps list, show the system apps, find the "Inductive Charger" app, and DISABLE it. Inductive charging still works just fine, but no more annoying pop-up.
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I figured out an easy way to disable this notification on my Droid Turbo 2. All you have to do is go into your Apps list, show the system apps, find the "Inductive Charger" app, and DISABLE it. Inductive charging still works just fine, but no more annoying pop-up.
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Fricken genius. Works for the moto z2 as well. Also disables the annoying sound with it. AWESOME FIND!
There's millions of these devices around. If not laying in a draw or closet, they're on craigslist or ebay half of a N7'13, (2013 model should be considered if purchasing).
Share and discuss your setup, apps, and experiences here.
ROMs:
Timur's USBRom: Android 4.2 Jellybean. No longer developed.
http://www.adrive.com/public/hMdX4p/cm-10.1-20130817-USBROM-grouper.zip
Gapps: http://www.adrive.com/public/rj748P/gapps-jb-20130812-signed.zip
AutoDroid: Android 4.4.4 Kit Kat. No longer developed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789993
*May have a problem booting after install. Flash a below kernel to fix.
Kernels:
Kangeroo: For Kit Kat ROMs. Inactive(?) since Jan 2014.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558717
Oxydo: For Lollipop ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/development/oxydo-revamped-kernel-nexus-7-2012-t2978950
Apps:
Headunit: Android Auto head unit app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gen...nit-android-auto-t3125252/page69#post62485618
Power Event Manager 1.8: Changes power settings for above kernels allowing tablet to sleep/wake with external power.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62287264&postcount=145
App Ops: Or any permission manager you like.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.findsdk.apppermission
Autosleeper Auto power ON-OFF: I haven't tried this but functionality seems somewhat equivalent to PEM above.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.as.powerchecker
Wakelock Detector [Root]: Use with App Ops to stop apps keeping the tablet awake.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector&hl=en
Trigger: Tasker-like app for automation. Simple set-up..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jwsoft.nfcactionlauncher
Tasker: Powerful automation app but incredibly user unfriendly.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm
[*]Secure Settings: Allows Tasker to perform even more powerful automation.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.intangibleobject.securesettings.plugin
[*]Power Event Manager Helper: Helps PEM kill a few stubborn apps then put the tablet in lp0.
Attached in 2nd post.
Hardware:
OTG Cable: Don't cheap out here, charging for the tablet and phone must go through the wires.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UJ5D5ZS?psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NSBVNCM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Ground Loop Isolator: Filters alternator, and charging whine. Doesn't degrade music quality.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NSBVNCM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Digital Audio Convertor: Can be found locally at music stores. Fantastically excellent sound!!
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA202.aspx
Others/Tips/etc:
Put the tablet in bootloader and type this command into CMD/terminal.
This makes the tablet to boot when external power is turned on without physically pressing the button, even if the battery has completely discharged.
Code:
fastboot oem off-mode-charge 0
If using a Lollipop ROM and experiencing the NlpCollectorWakeLock here's a fix, you must be rooted:
Remove com.google.android.gms with titanium backup (or another utility),
Download the latest "230" version of Google Play Services from apkmirror.com,
Install,
Reboot.
Smooth Scroll Mod: Possible created a random reboot on the order of once 3 or 4 days.
It goes without saying, maybe, but do not install 3rd party widgets. Beautiful Widgets for example will cause thousnads of different wakelocks though a night. -inadvertently tested.
Attached is my V2 blocked list for Debloater. It removes more apps, but leaves a few others for better stability.
V2 now removes Connectivity Services and Play Services. I recommend using on a clean install immediately going into airplane mode so no apps will start auto-updating.
With Play Services being removed by the app you will need to install with adb if no file manager is installed beforehand.
Created a Tasker app that helps Power Event Manager. Secure Settings and Power Event Manger is needed.
If PEM doesn't shut down in 7 seconds, The app closes some problem apps, hope you used the debloat list, and calls PEM to sleep the tablet. Upon wake up app then disables airplane mode.
My current setup [Edited 09/18]:
Stock lollipop, from factory image, rooted, with Oxydo-Revamp kernel.
All apps not suitable for stand-alone tablet use have been removed. Debloat list is above in post #2.
Power Event Manager installed as system app.
Es File Explorer for file management, and ftp file transfer.
$3.50 OTG cable from Amazon. Charging seems severely hampered. Tablet and phone both occasionally discharge.
OTG is now handled by the 2nd cable listed in the OP with Amazon Basic USB extensions. Charging problems fixed.
Cheap USB 2.0 hub with independent power. Simple and impressive mod.
Torque Pro with a ELM327.
Tasker. To kill apps and use Power Event Manager to put the tablet to sleep.
Now using my Power Event Manager Helper app.
Behringer UCA202 to stock stereo AUX input: This is an incredible mod. Highly recommend over bluetooth.
Notes:
Torque can keep the phone awake if configured improperly.
Leaving ES File Explorer in FTP mode will also cause a partial wakelock.
Google Play Services, and Google App are causing wakeup triggers every 2-3 minutes.
Power Event Manager combined with Oxydo kernel is putting the tablet to sleep reliably.
Power Event Manager isn't terribly reliable. The Tasker profile is set to kill apps and call PEM for when PEM alone fails.
My awake time with stripped system and Tasker is consistently 0% over 24 hours. Longer periods show Tasker awake for 2s!
Settings:
I use Synapse and UKM TricksterMod for kernel management. Since battery life isn't a primary concern, my settings are to maximize the tablet's performance.
Turning the Nexus7 into a "terminal" is about the only hope it has to run Lollipop.
Tablet can run music, maps, and youtube flawlessly. Chrome appears to be the biggest problem app.
CPU Minimum frequency is set a 640MHZ 340MHZ,
Maximum 1624MHZ 1500MHZ,
Ondemand Governor.
Splitting the power to use two chargers is super simple when you figure it out.
Open the hub,
Remove the red wire from the PCB, and tape it off.
Connect a salvaged USB cable's red wire to the where the previous was,
Connect the new black wire to the PCB with the existing black wire.
Green and white wires on new cable are not used.
Whoa, mine if using stock lollipop is barely usable (too slow especially when multitask). Then I installed tiimut'r usbrom it's a lot bettrr (but then I needed the inmersive mode).
Current setup is slimrom (slimkat 4.4.4), all converted to all-f2fs. I dont need usb host stuff (yet), so far i'm satisfied with it. Use macrodroid for auto on/off stuff, automate as launcher, google maps for navigation, spotify/poweramp for music, and dash command for obd2 stuff.
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tesna said:
Whoa, mine if using stock lollipop is barely usable (too slow especially when multitask). Then I installed tiimut'r usbrom it's a lot bettrr (but then I needed the inmersive mode).
Current setup is slimrom (slimkat 4.4.4), all converted to all-f2fs. I dont need usb host stuff (yet), so far i'm satisfied with it. Use macrodroid for auto on/off stuff, automate as launcher, google maps for navigation, spotify/poweramp for music, and dash command for obd2 stuff.
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I ran into the multitasking bit while setting up , everything last night.
With Torque and Headunit, running as it would in the car it's perfectly usable.
Open chrome, settings, es file explorer, and Ampere and it falls apart. Chrome is the biggest problem though.
How does Dash Command run for you? I've tried it, and seen many, that say the refresh rate is slow.
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I ran into the multitasking bit while setting up , everything last night.
With Torque and Headunit, running as it would in the car it's perfectly usable.
Open chrome, settings, es file explorer, and Ampere and it falls apart. Chrome is the biggest problem though.
How does Dash Command run for you? I've tried it, and seen many, that say the refresh rate is slow.
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I had issues even opening up Google maps while in lollipop, soooo sllooooow. I only able to open maps, or music, or OBD stuff, cannot run them together. Now on kitkat I can run at least 2 apps simultaneously without any issues (like maps and music, or music and OBDII stuff). I did get issues when running three apps (music, maps, and obdII stuff). As for dashcommand, the refresh rates is quite ok for me. I like dashcommand morecompared to torque since it has nicer layout/themes out of the box. It's like having GTR multi information display that looks very factory.
I have another irritating issues though. If the nexus7 battery nearly full (above 90%) and charging. I hear a lot of strange noises, even when the engine is off. I touch the screen, doing any activities creates a lot of noises. if I disconnect the charger the noises are gone! and if the battery was like at 50% and charging no funny noises either. I was wondering how do I fix this.....
My setup is using the aux output of the nexus 7 to aux input of the factory bose head unit. Tried to use bluetooth to aux adapter but I did not like the sound quality (too many hissing noise) and also introduces alternator whine
Should I get the USB DAC thing?
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I had issues even opening up Google maps while in lollipop, soooo sllooooow. I only able to open maps, or music, or OBD stuff, cannot run them together. Now on kitkat I can run at least 2 apps simultaneously without any issues (like maps and music, or music and OBDII stuff). I did get issues when running three apps (music, maps, and obdII stuff). As for dashcommand, the refresh rates is quite ok for me. I like dashcommand morecompared to torque since it has nicer layout/themes out of the box. It's like having GTR multi information display that looks very factory.
I have another irritating issues though. If the nexus7 battery nearly full (above 90%) and charging. I hear a lot of strange noises, even when the engine is off. I touch the screen, doing any activities creates a lot of noises. if I disconnect the charger the noises are gone! and if the battery was like at 50% and charging no funny noises either. I was wondering how do I fix this.....
My setup is using the aux output of the nexus 7 to aux input of the factory bose head unit. Tried to use bluetooth to aux adapter but I did not like the sound quality (too many hissing noise) and also introduces alternator whine
Should I get the USB DAC thing?
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I'm sure lollipop is working so well because of everything I stripped out of it. I'm about to strip some more. Was working on gauges for torque. I'll give Dash Command another try though. It does look much better.
I'm still getting my cables added to my cart but you need one of these for noise:
http://www.amazon.com/PAC-SNI-1-3-5...=1440642269&sr=8-1&keywords=3.5mm+ground+loop
Are you using a stripped down stock ROM or you manually disabled everything?
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I'm sure lollipop is working so well because of everything I stripped out of it. I'm about to strip some more. Was working on gauges for torque. I'll give Dash Command another try though. It does look much better.
I'm still getting my cables added to my cart but you need one of these for noise:
http://www.amazon.com/PAC-SNI-1-3-5...=1440642269&sr=8-1&keywords=3.5mm+ground+loop
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I just bought one of these.. (not exactly that brand), on mine one of the channels is not working so I only got one side audio channel only It also degrades the sound quality I think. I guess I need to bought the better one.
EDIT: What if I buy the ground loop isolator intended for 12volt line like this one? Install it on 12v cigarette lighter (before 12v to 5v dc-dc adapter). If this one works the audio quality will not changed as the ground is lifted on the 12v line.
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Are you using a stripped down stock ROM or you manually disabled everything?
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Yes, A manually stripped/blocked stock ROM.
tesna said:
I just bought one of these.. (not exactly that brand), on mine one of the channels is not working so I only got one side audio channel only It also degrades the sound quality I think. I guess I need to bought the better one.
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Hopefully the one I ordered works. It has a decibal increase to make up for that degradation from the transformers.
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Hopefully the one I ordered works. It has a decibal increase to make up for that degradation from the transformers.
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I ended up ordering one of these . Let's see how it goes few days from now when the package arrives (and time to install it)
Counting on PEM to sleep the tablet might not be the best idea. It only seems to actually do it IF the tablet is charging in OTG mode.
Tablet went dead in the car during a test possibly because the OTG cable, or another cable, is malfunctioning.
Might have to go Tasker although I've never gotten it to work properly for anything, and I've never accepted it won't demolish battery polling every few seconds.
Damn. Whatever happened to my tablet it appears to be dead. Won't power on, won't reboot. May be a short lived experiment.
I've ordered hundred of dollars worth of parts for the car so If it doesn't charge by Wednesday i'll have to buy a N7'13 off CL.
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Counting on PEM to sleep the tablet might not be the best idea. It only seems to actually do it IF the tablet is charging in OTG mode.
Tablet went dead in the car during a test possibly because the OTG cable, or another cable, is malfunctioning.
Might have to go Tasker although I've never gotten it to work properly for anything, and I've never accepted it won't demolish battery polling every few seconds.
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I use Macrodroid to manage sleep/wake up on mine. Very simple app and easy to understand.
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Damn. Whatever happened to my tablet it appears to be dead. Won't power on, won't reboot. May be a short lived experiment.
I've ordered hundred of dollars worth of parts for the car so If it doesn't charge by Wednesday i'll have to buy a N7'13 off CL.
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That's too bad maybe try to plug in to your pc and recognize adb or fastboot or something?
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I use Macrodroid to manage sleep/wake up on mine. Very simple app and easy to understand.
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I going to try it out. I'm quite used to Trigger, I haven't used it in awhile though and not for this type of power control.
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That's too bad maybe try to plug in to your pc and recognize adb or fastboot or something?
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Took it apart after not charging at all. Checked battery voltage, then voltage at the microUSB, tried powering it on, yet again, and it did. I did nothing different, same cable and charger. Wiggling and poking the socket it doesn't appear to have a loose connection.
My new OTG cable is on the proverbial slow boat so I can't eliminate that until early October!
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I use Macrodroid to manage sleep/wake up on mine. Very simple app and easy to understand.
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Care to give your macros for power? It's time to try other methods of forcing the tablet to sleep.
Tasker, as usual, is impossible.
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Care to give your macros for power? It's time to try other methods of forcing the tablet to sleep.
Tasker, as usual, is impossible.
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My macro is pretty simple, I just set on charger connect, screen on, run app A,B,C Then another macro on charger disconnect, screen off, close app ABC (killing navigation apps, music, OBD stuff). You can apply also turn on/off airplane mode, turn/off mobile data, wifi AP, etc but I decided to keep them on even when not charging to track the location of my car in case my car got stolen lol. Another macro that I occasionally use is, turning off the tablet when the charger is disconnected (key ACC off). No need another macro since the tablet will auto power on when charger is connected (key ACC on).
Before macrodroid I was using condi, and it was not always working.
@tesna Thanks. While playing with Tasker I found it doesn't actually cause deep sleep, just shuts down radios.
We really need a kernel with some of the newer improvements. And firm sleep.
Since my car isn't a daily driver and only goes out for relatively short trips the tablet will eventually go completely dead.
@fr4nkl1yn, there's simpler solution to that problem. Just set in tasker/macrodroid to turn off the tablet once the ignition key is on the off position (charger disconnected). Bam no battery drain issue...
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@fr4nkl1yn, there's simpler solution to that problem. Just set in tasker/macrodroid to turn off the tablet once the ignition key is on the off position (charger disconnected). Bam no battery drain issue...
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yeah, I'm going to have to do it. close apps and set airplane mode with screen off at power, and a timer to shut down after a few hours. Off_charge_mode will take care of the rest with screen, radios on at power on.
Having an add issue. the tablet is powering the charger, and the key circuit of the car, through the otg cable.
Further research shows its functioning just as it's supposed too. This is also the cause of the issues I was contributing to pem.
When the power is shut off while a otg device is connected, or the tablet thinks is connected, it doesn't sleep and powers the otg device, my charger, from the tablet. At that point it doesn't recognize any change in external power until its physically unplugged and reconnected.
Source, timur: http://mehrvarz.github.io/usb-host-mode-power-management-nexus7/
This leads me to believe pem isn't switching the fixed install trigger, or oxydo-revamp has a bug.