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Hi, I have a Tilt and do not have a problem tethering to a single computer. What I would like to do is share with all four computers in my home. I have tried bridging the sharing connection to my lan connection and have gotten dhcp on the Tilt to assign addresses to all computers on the network, but they still can't ping each other (other than the tilt and the computer its directly tethered to. I have turned off all firewalls and still nothing. Rebooted everything. Still nothing. Is it possible to do this? Thanks for any help.
There's a program around here somewhere that allows you to make your TILT a wireless router. If you do this, any machine with wi-fi can connect to the SSID and go.
Anyone have the link handy?
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Could I have it connect with my current wireless router to provide internet to my wired network through the rj45 ports on the router ? 3 of the 4 computers are on a wired lan. You see, we just got HSDPA on Monday and I love it. I got a bit ahead of myself and cancelled my home DSL connection. Now I'm realizing that I am stuck with only having one computer on the internet at a time. This has got to be possible. - I just found the thread on setting up as a wireless router. I will start playing with it. Any suggestions/instructions are appreciated.
OK, get connected to your carrier whilst tethered.
Then from any Explorer window on your tethered PC, select, 'Set up a home or small Office Network'.
Select the first option in the following box 'This computer directly connects...' and follow it through.
This should set up your Activesync PC as an IP address of 192.168.1.1. (an access point IP)
If you connect any other PC/laptop to this PC via wireless or LAN (you do know how to do that I hope??) to this computer, it will share the internet connection..
Remember, this will change any prior Internet configuration you have on the PC/Laptop!
Hope this helps.
Internet sharing
Thanks for the suggestion. I am going to try that again. The first time I tried that I found out that the Tilt had already assigned itself the address of 192.168.0.1 . On the XP machine, the computer will always use that same address to share its connection, so it immediately complained that another computer on the network is already using the required address for internet connection sharing. Maybe all I need to do is force the Tilt to use a different ip address like 192.168.0.10? I am not sure how to do that since this is my first time using Windows Mobile as part of a network sharing its connection. The only reference I could find to 192.168.0.1 in the registry was HKLM\Comm\BTPAN1\Parms\TcpIp. Should I change that?
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Thanks for the suggestion. I am going to try that again. The first time I tried that I found out that the Tilt had already assigned itself the address of 192.168.0.1 . On the XP machine, the computer will always use that same address to share its connection, so it immediately complained that another computer on the network is already using the required address for internet connection sharing. Maybe all I need to do is force the Tilt to use a different ip address like 192.168.0.10? I am not sure how to do that since this is my first time using Windows Mobile as part of a network sharing its connection. The only reference I could find to 192.168.0.1 in the registry was HKLM\Comm\BTPAN1\Parms\TcpIp. Should I change that?
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NO, 192.168.0.1 or 2.1 or.3.1 are all access point AD's.
You have to go into your PC/laptop Network Places icon to tel IT to then share the connection.
I am sorry, but if you have never shared an internet connection on your PC before (ie via modem or ADSL), you will not really understand how it is done.
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Thanks for your reply. The problem is that we are trying to make the pc an access point and trying to make the tilt an access point at the same time. They both are using 192.168.0.1 as the default ip address and as far as I tell there is not a way given to change that. The Tilt automatically uses 192.168.0.1 and when you using the sharing wizard on the pc it also uses the same address for its network card thats connected to the home wired network. Unfortunately for me, two devices on a network cannot have the same ip address. There must be a way...
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Thanks for your reply. The problem is that we are trying to make the pc an access point and trying to make the tilt an access point at the same time. They both are using 192.168.0.1 as the default ip address and as far as I tell there is not a way given to change that. The Tilt automatically uses 192.168.0.1 and when you using the sharing wizard on the pc it also uses the same address for its network card thats connected to the home wired network. Unfortunately for me, two devices on a network cannot have the same ip address. There must be a way...
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OK, set all computers on the network to fixed IP's of 192.168.0.xxx in Internet protocol (under TCPIP on network)with the same subnet mask with a default gateway matching your device! Try that...
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That was my first attempt at a work around. The problem is that there are
actually two network connections to the pc. One for the Tilt (usb) and one for the LAN (nic card). They don't seem to see each other even when they have matching ip addresses and subnets. Thats why I tried right clicking them and selecting "bridge these connections." It seems that internet sharing "requires" DHCP to be used. I tried setting all the computers to use DHCP and actually had the Tilt assigning ip addresses to all of the computers on the network by bridging the two connections and using dhcp. Oddly, though, the computers on the network could not ping the Tilt. I think its because bridging uses the data link layer of the osi networking model?
There must be a hack to change the ip address that windows uses for the sharing access point. Alternatively, it would be nice if there were a device out there that could act as a hub to network usb and 100baseT devices together. In other words, plugging usb and cat5 cable rj45 plugs into the same box and having them all be on the same network.
OK, I have asked smitty to get on this but both of us are WAYYYYy past our bedtimes.
He should get back to you tomoz on this. (he's the Network buff..)
Hope it works out..
this is the app mentioned earlier and may help your solution...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341398
I can't make this work. I don't have WiFi on all of my computers. I was hoping to use WMWifiRouter to connect to my wireless router and then to my whole wired network. Is there a way to make the Tilt wireless router to connect with another wireless router? I'm thinking what I will do is go back to an AT&T rom and use "wireles modem" instead of "internet sharing". That way I can share the modem with the whole network. There doesn't seem to be a good way to use the Tilt internet sharing with the whole network. What do you guys think?
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For any future readers of this thread: I put the stock AT&T rom back on this phone and did a soft reset during the initial boot to stop the bloatware from loading. I went to start>settings>connections and tapped the wireless modem icon to open the app. I selected "usb" and tapped done then plugged the usb into my computer. My win xp computer found the new modem hardware and installed the HTC modem driver. I then setup a new dialup connection on my computer, and used the following to setup the login and dial:
username: [email protected]
password: cingular1
dial #: *99***1#
When I clicked on dial, it quickly connected to the AT&T network and I had internet access on my computer! I went to a speed test website and clocked my download speed at 1.2mbs and upload at 300kbs. I then opened "my network" and started the network setup wizard. I selected "this computer connects directly to the internet" and "file and printer sharing". To make a long story short, I am now able to share the Tilt's HSDPA internet connection with my whole network! I could not do it using the internet sharing function of the Tilt with either the AT&T rom or the kaiser rom. It would be awesome if someone more educated than me could make this function part of the HTC kaiser rom.
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.....the problem is that we are trying to make the pc an access point and trying to make the tilt an access point at the same time. They both are using 192.168.0.1 as the default ip address and as far as I tell there is not a way given to change that. The Tilt automatically uses 192.168.0.1 and when you using the sharing wizard on the pc it also uses the same address for its network card thats connected to the home wired network. Unfortunately for me, two devices on a network cannot have the same ip address. There must be a way.......
I have same problem. I agree with Nojnaworb, this is the reason why its not working.
I have no Wifi at home and have to use LAN for my home network (2 PC + 1 ppc).
Under WM5 it was easy to share Internetconnection with all Lan adapters.
I cannot believe there is no way.
PLS Networkexperts, tell me how to setup !!
Its really quite simple.
You dont connect all the computers to the tilt. You use ICS on the tilt to provide one pc with an internet connection.
You then share the internet connection from that pc to the other pc's using the networking wizard.
I think part of this persons problem was that he needed to bridge the 2 connections.
here have this.
http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/wxpbrdge.html
You should be able to connect the Tilt, (let it use whatever address it wants) and then make a bridge from the tilt to your nic in the server. Then I beleive you just use internet connection sharing to disperse the lovely packets to the rest of the network. Without the bridge, there is no way to share from one network to another.
I'm pretty sure that you will need to set the address to 192.168.0.2 on the server or any other number were the 2 is. If your using a router then I would suggest turning off dhcp and not using the WAN port on it. Just treat the router like a switch/hub because it will just makes things even harder to figure out.
wish we had service that was worth sharing to my network.
Ok, well basically my end need is to have my Google Calendar synced to my phone on which I have no service or access to WiFi internet. I'm in Iraq right now, and the only internet I have is via Ethernet.
I am hoping to, at the least, sync my calender over USB. But one thing I'd love to do is share my internet connection to my phone via USB like WinMo does. That way I can mess with new roms and the such while I'm out here. Thing is, it can't have it's own IP address because all IP's are assigned and I have to log in via my browser on my computer once I'm connected. It's a pain in the ass.
But, any help would be great. Thanks!
I am pretty sure there is not a way to do what you are asking. Without wifi or and kind of data signal, there is no way to connect the gmail servers to your phone. I am pretty sure that usb is out of the question, which seems to be your only option.
Sorry my friend.
This might help, all you need is linux. You could virtualize it, but idk if you can do that where you are at right now.
any possibility of getting a usb wifi device and setting up Internet Connection Sharing so your phone would have a local ip like 192.168. and share the connection on your computer with your phone???
I don't know exactly how the IP shiz works with ICS, but the ISP out here uses 192.168 IP's. All I know is that the phone would need to not have an IP, or something along those lines, for it to work. IDFK....
If you're in iraq, it might be hard to get your hands on one of these, BUT, in the interests of completeness,
Use of a regular cheap broadband router with integrated wifi WILL do what you are looking to do...
You might need to clone your computer's MAC address to the router's WAN device, then it'll connect to the DHCP server, then using EITHER the computer OR the phone, go to the browser and authenticate.
Note: I don't think that there is really any way to network the phone to the computer using USB, though bluetooth IS an option... it'll be a console-only operation though.
Final option is to get your hands on a wifi device for the computer (can be a USB device) and run it as a NAT, i.e. use iptables.
my95z34 said:
Ok, well basically my end need is to have my Google Calendar synced to my phone on which I have no service or access to WiFi internet. I'm in Iraq right now, and the only internet I have is via Ethernet.
I am hoping to, at the least, sync my calender over USB. But one thing I'd love to do is share my internet connection to my phone via USB like WinMo does. That way I can mess with new roms and the such while I'm out here. Thing is, it can't have it's own IP address because all IP's are assigned and I have to log in via my browser on my computer once I'm connected. It's a pain in the ass.
But, any help would be great. Thanks!
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lbcoder said:
If you're in iraq, it might be hard to get your hands on one of these, BUT, in the interests of completeness,
Use of a regular cheap broadband router with integrated wifi WILL do what you are looking to do...
You might need to clone your computer's MAC address to the router's WAN device, then it'll connect to the DHCP server, then using EITHER the computer OR the phone, go to the browser and authenticate.
Note: I don't think that there is really any way to network the phone to the computer using USB, though bluetooth IS an option... it'll be a console-only operation though.
Final option is to get your hands on a wifi device for the computer (can be a USB device) and run it as a NAT, i.e. use iptables.
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They don't care what the MAC is, just IP's. I can get a WiFi router if I need to. But, if I turn off DHCP on the router, does it still need it's own IP address? Or does it just act as a switch? All IP configuration is done on the device, there is no DHCP ran by the ISP.
my95z34 said:
They don't care what the MAC is, just IP's. I can get a WiFi router if I need to. But, if I turn off DHCP on the router, does it still need it's own IP address? Or does it just act as a switch? All IP configuration is done on the device, there is no DHCP ran by the ISP.
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The cheap broadband router has TWO IP addresses. The public IP address assigned by the ISP's DHCP server (or manually if the ISP doesn't have DHCP), and the PRIVATE IP address used to communicate with the other devices that you hook up to it. It uses NETWORK ADDRESS TRANSLATION (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation ) to connect the client machines to the public network. To the public network, it appears that there is ONLY ONE machine connecting -- the NAT box (router) itself.
You will leave the DHCP *SERVER* (LAN SIDE) running on the router, you will disable the DHCP *CLIENT* (WAN SIDE) and configure the WAN IP/NETMASK/DNS/GATEWAY to the specifications required by the ISP. You will use the router's WAN port to connect to your ISP, you will use any LAN port to connect to your computer, and you will use the WiFi to connect to your phone. You will then have private IP addresses assigned to your computer and your phone, and these devices will be able to connect through your ISP's network via the router.
So doing that the ISP will see my router as my computer, then both my phone and computer can connect at the same time because they'll have their own private IP?
hi everyone,i bought HD7 last night and i have a problem with wifi.i want to connect my HD7 to my wireless routher. i must to set my HD7 IP.i can see HD7 IP but i cant change it.how can i do it? thanks
There is currently no way to set a Static IP address in Windows Phone 7, you'll have to wait for an update to come out that allows this.
not_in_love_en said:
hi everyone,i bought HD7 last night and i have a problem with wifi.i want to connect my HD7 to my wireless routher. i must to set my HD7 IP.i can see HD7 IP but i cant change it.how can i do it? thanks
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You shouldn't need to manually configure your IP for the phone, the router will most likely assign your phone one if your DHCP is enabled (default on most routers). If you are wanting to connect it to your current home network and you have a wireless router, first you will need to go into the router configuration and set it to broadcast your SSID (if not already enabled). At this time the HD7 cannot connect to hidden networks (I don't see a point in hiding your SSID anyway, use better encryption, and a strong password with numbers, letters[upper and lower case], and symbols[if supported]). You can then use you HD7 to connect to your home network, once connected to your network go back into the router and look at your network. It should list all the devices currently connected to the network along with their currently assigned IP addresses. If you really need to, now that you know what IP address your router has assigned to your phone you can set your router to give your phone a static IP but really as long as you leave the router broadcasting the SSID your phone should have no problem connecting to the WiFi it should save the key and SSID, and it will get a new IP at regular intervals.
You shouldn't need to manually configure your IP for the phone, the router will most likely assign your phone one if your DHCP is enabled (default on most routers). If you are wanting to connect it to your current home network and you have a wireless router, first you will need to go into the router configuration and set it to broadcast your SSID (if not already enabled). At this time the HD7 cannot connect to hidden networks (I don't see a point in hiding your SSID anyway, use better encryption, and a strong password with numbers, letters[upper and lower case], and symbols[if supported]). You can then use you HD7 to connect to your home network, once connected to your network go back into the router and look at your network. It should list all the devices currently connected to the network along with their currently assigned IP addresses. If you really need to, now that you know what IP address your router has assigned to your phone you can set your router to give your phone a static IP but really as long as you leave the router broadcasting the SSID your phone should have no problem connecting to the WiFi it should save the key and SSID, and it will get a new IP at regular intervals.
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i have an adsl modem that connect to pc through the router,my modem has an IP and my router has another one,my phone get the router IP for Gateway,so i cant reach Internet in my phone,i need to change gateway of my phone to reach to internet and i dont know how to do that
Well, I've done some digging around and can't really find anything specific so I thought I'd ask..
The stock USB tethering built-in to Froyo & GB.. I was wondering if it was possible to use it for, let's say VNC?
I tried to connect in to a computer that was tethered to my phone using VNC.. But it didn't work, connecting out seems to be just fine but using my phone's internet to HOST the connection wasn't workin..
It's probably a Tmo port thing, but I was just curious if it was controlled with the app itself?
its most likely the way the tethering works, it sort of makes the phone act as a router at home works, it acts as the central point to your modem and then assigns everything behind it in its own network its own address. if you check the ip of the pc that is connected to your phone youre probably going to show 192.168 something. whatever tethering method youre using would need to incorporate some sort of port forwarding so you can direct the vnc traffic to the pc that is tethered to the phone. i use my phone to tether a bit while im out on the road and as you say, i can remote out a lot and quite freely, i cant see really if this would be reliable at all to connect into the pc that is tethered since the cell networks can go in and out and will probably pretty frequently change the ip address of the phone. ive never really kept track of my phones cell network ip...
Hello,
I am using gueste rom with spica kernel, but I think it is independent of rom/kernel.
When I have internet on 3G on my o2x, I connect it to my laptop and use usbtethering. It works.
When I have internet on wifi on my o2x, I do the same thing but I don't have internet on my laptop.
Wireshark shows that my laptop send packet through my phone and I can ping my phone. But I can't ping website. However dns works (I can see dns packet). On my phone, internet works well.
I don't really know how does tethering work. Maybe it uses iptables/nat ? How can I have working tethering? Thank you.
What WiFi device is your phone connected to and why can't your laptop just connect direct to that? (I'm assuming the laptop has wifi). It's also possible to set your phone up as a WiFi Access Point, that would allow you to connect your laptop wirelessly. As I understand, however, if you use your phone as an Access Point, it won't be able to connect to the internet via WiFi - eg, you could be in field with good 3G, connect your laptop via WiFi to the phone and then surf via WiFi and out via the phone's 3G signal.
The author of Gueste does warn about using spica's "performance packs" for stability issues.
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What WiFi device is your phone connected to
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It is a public wifi emitted by a router. It is possible that the router blocks tethering?
and why can't your laptop just connect direct to that? (I'm assuming the laptop has wifi).
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I could, the reason is that my wifi signal is weak but at my door. It is just more convenient that my phone is near my door and connected to my laptop. Moreover, I'm studying networks and this issue arouses my curiosity
It's also possible to set your phone up as a WiFi Access Point, that would allow you to connect your laptop wirelessly. As I understand, however, if you use your phone as an Access Point, it won't be able to connect to the internet via WiFi - eg, you could be in field with good 3G, connect your laptop via WiFi to the phone and then surf via WiFi and out via the phone's 3G signal.
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I know, the wifi hotspot works.