Huge thumbnail size! - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Guyz i always get low memory warning, I've checked with storage analyser and found about 5 Gb! Thumbnail,when i delete them, after few days they come back again,thumbnail in DCIM folder, any idea to prevention?

T_L_O_T_D said:
Guyz i always get low memory warning, I've checked with storage analyser and found about 5 Gb! Thumbnail,when i delete them, after few days they come back again,thumbnail in DCIM folder, any idea to prevention?
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Do a search, there are a few common solutions, including replacing the thumbnail file with a much smaller file with the same name.

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Deleted pics remain cache!

Woops! I thought I had deleted some incriminating pictures from the gallery and with astro file manager BUT while looking through the SD card , I found old deleted pics!
How can I really delete pictures without them showing up in some cache directory?
I heard that in-order to do so you needed to email them to someone totally random. I can give you a totally random email address for this purpose if you like ;-)
I think there are Cache clearing apps on the market, last i remember anyways.
LOL...
Thats no good. It should delete without any apps...damn.
all it does is super compress them so they can be overwritten...
As you'll no doubt aware, most disks/SSDs, memory sticks, microSDs still contain most old "deleted" files, even if they aren't obvious, until where the data was has been overwritten by something else..
Couple of useful bits of code, TestDisk & PhotoRec can help recover lost stuff (or stuff someone thought they'd deleted (!!!!) )..
get them here..
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
NB Both these bits of software can completely screw machines/PCs/Laptops. whatever so BE CAREFULL!!!!!
I'm just about to try PhotoRec on the N1 and see what she finds... & will report...
My mate dodgy Rob found fascinating deleted SMS messages on his wife's (non-Android) 'phone.... the story of what he did about it is even funnier...
Cheers!
Lodger
Yup, Photorec can recover deleted stuff - .jpegs, .mov, .mpegs.. at least it did from my N1... - you have been warned ...
Running Ubuntu (Linux) & looking at the microSD card it reports 907 items on the microSD
Photorec recovered 3,724 items (!).. on the microSD and kindly copied them all to my Laptop..
If you really really need to feel confident something has gone then (I'm not an expert mind...) i understand you need to either..
a) (quick 'n dirty method ..) Fill up the apparently " empty" bit of the SD with garbage - eg some other .jpegs... or
b) To be really certain, re-format her: Several times... probably with several different file systems (FAT32, NTFS, EXT3...) , and don't chose the "quick" options...
Cheers!
Lodger
mine disappear after a soft reset
Damn.....not good. How am I suppose to receive rated r pics from girls and not have my gf find out!
iag48 said:
Damn.....not good. How am I suppose to receive rated r pics from girls and not have my gf find out!
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youre a horrible man
cymru said:
I heard that in-order to do so you needed to email them to someone totally random. I can give you a totally random email address for this purpose if you like ;-)
I think there are Cache clearing apps on the market, last i remember anyways.
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I developed CacheMate for clearing cache. It would not work for this purpose. There are a few places where the images would be stored. When in the DCIM directory in /sdcard using Astro, make sure you are viewing hidden file and directories. You can do this by check the "Show Hidden Files" checkbox in Menu > Preferences > Look and Feel. You need to delete the pics from the .thumbnails directory too. If you really want, you can always cue them up in the gallery and delete them that way (long pressing on the pictures brings up the multiple select checkbox). Hope this helps a little.
Thanks for the help.
Re: get pics back from sd card
Actually, the easy way to recover deleted photos from sd card or hard disk is to use a photo software. You can google it and you will get many photo recovery softwares. But they are mostly not free. I have come across the same thing like you. Finally, I get my pics back with Yesterdata.
Kind Tips:
Don't save the recovered data on your memory card again. Find another place for it like on your computer or other external disk, for safety's sake.
iag48 said:
Woops! I thought I had deleted some incriminating pictures from the gallery and with astro file manager BUT while looking through the SD card , I found old deleted pics!
How can I really delete pictures without them showing up in some cache directory?
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This should not happen as deleted pictures remains on the phone. But there are nexus photo recovery tool that helps to undelete photos on nexus phones. See this article: recover deleted photos on nexus phone
hope this helps.

[Q] DCIM thumbnails taking over storage - need a fix!

Ok so I have an SGS for over a year now, with an external sd of 16GB and cyanogenmod 10 installed (this one). It's fantastic. But, recently I started having some storage problems. I couldn't update anything or download any new app or even take a picture. This seemed odd as I don't have that many applications installed and I keep all my big files on the external sd. So I started clearing caches and moving applications to the sd. Those solutions didn't last long.
Worse, ther weird part was yet to come. When I checked my settings >> storage, I found that there should be more than a 1.5GB of free space. But, If I checked my settings >> Apps >> On SD Card, I could see that there was only around 5MB of space left. Still, I found some old backup that I didn't need anymore, so I deleted that. hooray, there were now 500MB free to use. That is, until the next day when again, there was zero space to be used. I was shocked because during that time I didn't install anything new, I only took a small video of less than a minute, which by itself didn't weight more than 60MB of space.
Something was definetly up. Using File Manager I tried checking where all the data is, and I found that, to my amazement, in the DCIM folder, there was a folder named ".thumbnails" which took up 2GB of space. That is a lot. seaching around the Forums here, it seems I'm not the first one to notice this problem.
And the solution always seems to be "just delete the thumbnails". To me that seems a bit crass and not really a solution. I'm not tech enough to know what are the implications of simply deleting those files, and I'm not sure how long it's going to last anyway, before I need to do it again. So I'd like to know if there's some kind of fix I can install or some configuration I can change that would make sure it doesn't happen again. Or, if anything, some explanation in layman's terms why it's okay to simply delete those files. I'd like to mention that my phone is rooted, and I have CWM, Rom Manager and Terminal Emulator so I can use those if necessary.
AW: [Q] DCIM thumbnails taking over storage - need a fix!
That really is weird. Did you try to fix permissions in cwm recovery? I'm not sure it would even check that directory but it surely doesn't hurt.
Even if it works it will not cure your immediate problem. You will need to delete the thumbnail folder or the files in it. And here is why you don't have to worry.
Thumbnails are small files that store a preview of your images. They get created by your image viewer and are updated whenever it detects a change in the image file. When your viewer doesn't find a thumbnail it needs to read the whole image file, create a preview and show this. The created preview is then saved as thumbnail so it can be loaded next time the program needs to show the image.
In short: if you delete the thumbnails then they will be recreated next time your image viewer shows the images. So there is nothing to lose. You can safely delete the thumbnails.
JUST BE SURE THEY REALLY ARE THUMBNAILS AND NOT THE IMAGES THEMSELVES!

[Q] HTC One Missing Photos, No LOST.DIR Anywhere? Still Have Space Taken Up

So I had alot of photos hidden using QuickPic's ".nomedia" trick, and it worked surprisingly well...
Recently HTC's Sense ROM was getting too buggy for me, YT wasn't working, Twitch wasn't either.
So I switched to Cyanogen Mod 11, and so far its tons better.
However; I decided to back up my music / pictures before flashing the new OS...
I just selected the two folders, "pictures", and "music" hit CTRL-X and CTRL-V on my Desktop.
It started copying the pictures, then finished almost instantly. Then moved on to the music, which took almost 45 minutes.
I checked both the music / pictures folders on my desktop, music was completely there, but all the pictures were not there.
So I look at my phone, and they don't exist there either... restarted phone, checked for a LOST.DIR file... nothing there...
So I say, "screw it, lets just get my phone working again" and restart, go to bootloader, go to recovery, wipe then flash.
Both completed properly.
BTW: I am using TWRP.
Now here is where it gets strange...
After I get everything set up, I see that my drive space, well its the exact same. 18 GB free...
I still had all my (non-hidden) pictures, and all my music. (I did not restore them from my backup on my PC)
So I know that the pictures are still on my drive... but where!? LOST.DIR is no where in sight, and since CM11 comes with root file manager,
I searched for "lost" and got "lost and found" it was empty.
I have been searching all over the web for a solution, all I can find is these : "delete LOST.DIR and save space " and "recover photos you lost is in LOST.DIR"
Both state that LOST.DIR is in the SDCard, but the HTC One M7 has no SDCard.... It's got internal memory / usbdisk / root / system / etc.
Does HTC One M7 + CM11 (4.4.4) have LOST.DIR still?
So if you guys know of anyway I could get those photos back, it would be appreciated.
Also why did wipe not actually wipe the whole phone?
da_coder said:
So I had alot of photos hidden using QuickPic's ".nomedia" trick, and it worked surprisingly well...
Recently HTC's Sense ROM was getting too buggy for me, YT wasn't working, Twitch wasn't either.
So I switched to Cyanogen Mod 11, and so far its tons better.
However; I decided to back up my music / pictures before flashing the new OS...
I just selected the two folders, "pictures", and "music" hit CTRL-X and CTRL-V on my Desktop.
It started copying the pictures, then finished almost instantly. Then moved on to the music, which took almost 45 minutes.
I checked both the music / pictures folders on my desktop, music was completely there, but all the pictures were not there.
So I look at my phone, and they don't exist there either... restarted phone, checked for a LOST.DIR file... nothing there...
So I say, "screw it, lets just get my phone working again" and restart, go to bootloader, go to recovery, wipe then flash.
Both completed properly.
BTW: I am using TWRP.
Now here is where it gets strange...
After I get everything set up, I see that my drive space, well its the exact same. 18 GB free...
I still had all my (non-hidden) pictures, and all my music. (I did not restore them from my backup on my PC)
So I know that the pictures are still on my drive... but where!? LOST.DIR is no where in sight, and since CM11 comes with root file manager,
I searched for "lost" and got "lost and found" it was empty.
I have been searching all over the web for a solution, all I can find is these : "delete LOST.DIR and save space " and "recover photos you lost is in LOST.DIR"
Both state that LOST.DIR is in the SDCard, but the HTC One M7 has no SDCard.... It's got internal memory / usbdisk / root / system / etc.
Does HTC One M7 + CM11 (4.4.4) have LOST.DIR still?
So if you guys know of anyway I could get those photos back, it would be appreciated.
Also why did wipe not actually wipe the whole phone?
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U should search in SDCARD/DCIM/100MEDIA
There should your photos be.
Good luck!
Fain11 said:
U should search in SDCARD/DCIM/100MEDIA
There should your photos be.
Good luck!
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Nope, empty...
Well... this certainly was helpful :/
da_coder said:
Well... this certainly was helpful :/
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well it seems the "QuickPic's ".nomedia" trick" saved your photos to the user data partition and you erased them.
clsA said:
well it seems the "QuickPic's ".nomedia" trick" saved your photos to the user data partition and you erased them.
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May I ask why it is the space in my partition is still taken up? Is that just a glitch?
da_coder said:
May I ask why it is the space in my partition is still taken up? Is that just a glitch?
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like how much space ? a few MB of several Gigs ?

4GB Thumbnail Data from Camera?

Hey Guys,
While ding my backup to prepare for root and the Lollipop upgrade I noticed that my DCIM folder has more than 4GB of Thumbnail Data
I've got about 5500 Pictures so far on my phone but that's a big amount of data. Is your thumbnail folder just as big or do i have some sort of abnormality going on?
Attached is a Screenshot
punshkin said:
Hey Guys,
While ding my backup to prepare for root and the Lollipop upgrade I noticed that my DCIM folder has more than 4GB of Thumbnail Data
I've got about 5500 Pictures so far on my phone but that's a big amount of data. Is your thumbnail folder just as big or do i have some sort of abnormality going on?
Attached is a Screenshot
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Yep
8G.B
Yes, also here about 4 + 4 GB.
But actually, the thumbnails don't really occupy 8 GB on the internal memory, because it simply wouldn't fit (along with apps and other data) and when I delete them, just less than 1 MB of internal memory is actually freed.
Maybe one of our experts can give us an explanation for this?
Hi,
any expert's feedback on this? I also have cleanup tools stating that thumbnails occupy huge space... thanks

Storage problem

Yesterday I checked my available space to download something on the phone and realized that there is miscellaneous files that eats up my storage for no reason.
It was not there before and when I take total of them it does not reach 8.5gb, not a little bit.
What might be causing this? It is not bloat I believe. It was not that large on the first day of the phone.
kuti5344 said:
Yesterday I checked my available space to download something on the phone and realized that there is miscellaneous files that eats up my storage for no reason.
It was not there before and when I take total of them it does not reach 8.5gb, not a little bit.
What might be causing this? It is not bloat I believe. It was not that large on the first day of the phone.
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hi,
If you tap on "miscellaneous files" it should open up another page with a brakedown of all you files thats make up the 8.5 Gb. In short if you look at the listed content you will see its overall your 3 rd party apps + some system apps, that you installed. etc etc
Lot of 3rd party apps keep various data etc for your relevant
apps to function properly.
eg.. a weather app might keep various themes in these files that enables you to tweak that app with various combo of themes. Also in my breakdown i see my S Note has data in it that i saved. Deleting this file would cause me to loose my S Note data..! (So be careful. )
I you check the listed breakdown you can decide if you want to delete it, but be careful.!
Deleting some files, might cause that app to force close or not function. or loose data that you saved ( Eg Games data)
Lastly, the longer you have and use your device, the more data is added or installing new apps for this "miscellaneous files" to increase in size. Also sometimes when uninstalling an app, the relevant app data of that app, is not deleted and bloats your device !
You have to manage your device properly.
good luck
willcor said:
hi,
If you tap on "miscellaneous files" it should open up another page with a brakedown of all you files thats make up the 8.5 Gb. In short if you look at the listed content you will see its overall your 3 rd party apps + some system apps, that you installed. etc etc
Lot of 3rd party apps keep various data etc for your relevant
apps to function properly.
eg.. a weather app might keep various themes in these files that enables you to tweak that app with various combo of themes. Also in my breakdown i see my S Note has data in it that i saved. Deleting this file would cause me to loose my S Note data..! (So be careful. )
I you check the listed breakdown you can decide if you want to delete it, but be careful.!
Deleting some files, might cause that app to force close or not function. or loose data that you saved ( Eg Games data)
Lastly, the longer you have and use your device, the more data is added or installing new apps for this "miscellaneous files" to increase in size. Also sometimes when uninstalling an app, the relevant app data of that app, is not deleted and bloats your device !
You have to manage your device properly.
good luck
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Well when I add them up it barely hits 350 mb. The rest is unknown (not shown under the "miscellaneous files" section). The largest file is 247 mb for my dictionary files and the rest only 100 mb or so. Still that does not explain the 8.5 gb file You can check the screenshot to see what I am complaining about
kuti5344 said:
Yesterday I checked my available space to download something on the phone and realized that there is miscellaneous files that eats up my storage for no reason.
It was not there before and when I take total of them it does not reach 8.5gb, not a little bit.
What might be causing this? It is not bloat I believe. It was not that large on the first day of the phone.
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That is bizarre! I find a much better way to do storage analysis is using one of the file manager tools. I use File Manager HD which has a storage analysis tool https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rhmsoft.fm.hd
I am using es file explorer. One thing I forgot to mention that I am using Spotify. When I search through es file app, I have ~14 gb of file lol but now the question is, if I do have 14 gb Spotify file, then my other applications don't use my storage or what? Because I have lots of apps installed, they supposed to consume some storege I am confused, a lot.
Edit: removed 2 downloaded play list through Spotify, did not effect any storage usage anyways. The files size are the same through es file explorer.
kuti5344 said:
I am using es file explorer. One thing I forgot to mention that I am using Spotify. When I search through es file app, I have ~14 gb of file lol but now the question is, if I do have 14 gb Spotify file, then my other applications don't use my storage or what? Because I have lots of apps installed, they supposed to consume some storege I am confused, a lot.
Edit: removed 2 downloaded play list through Spotify, did not effect any storage usage anyways. The files size are the same through es file explorer.
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hi,
yes, i do now have a better understanding of what you mean.
Yes, i quickly checked an saw my
miscellaneous files.
Yes it does not add up at first glance. My my files add up to - + 400 mb. but it shows 1.6 gig.
I then checked disk space with es file
Eventually everything adds up (i think) i suspect part of miscellaneous files also includes your " Android" folder (Data + Obb folder) which is not shown but mine is 1.2 gig in size.
Adding that Android folder, to my other total from miscellaneous files adds correct total as listed total in miscellaneous. (hope you follow)
Just remember, the Android folder on your phone mostly contains you 3 rd party data apps and your games data etc etc. and a few o/s apps data
Bottom line,
i would say yes total is....
your listed miscellaneous files plus Android folder (data plus obb folder)?? (thats not listed but) but included in total of miscellaneous ?
Not sure, but yes thats my take.
good luck
My obb file is empty if there is no hidden files.
Android/data has spotify folder as I told and it's size is 6.55 gb which I use actually. Now everything is clearer except why it does not go down when I remove the downloaded musics
kuti5344 said:
My obb file is empty if there is no hidden files.
Android/data has spotify folder as I told and it's size is 6.55 gb which I use actually. Now everything is clearer except why it does not go down when I remove the downloaded musics
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hi ,
Glad to hear you getting somewhere !!
Have you rebooted your device ? and checked ?
If you have"es explorer " app ,is your recycle bin enabled in es explorer ?
empty bin,if you have it enabled,reboot etc .
hope , you get it sorted out
good luck

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