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A few days ago I updated to JF's 1.5. I installed the radio update first, wiped, installed 1.5, wiped again (sounds gross I know), and now I'm ready to roll. Overall it's VERY snappy, VERY stable, and I'm highly pleased with it's feature set. However, there are a few lingering questions.
Feel free to add your own to this list-- this post is intended to be a campfire discussion about Cupcake (of sorts). As always, if I posted in the wrong place...mods do your thing.
What I do like:
-The improved integration across the apps (messaging, Gtalk, Dialer, etc). I like that when you're signed into Gtalk, you can see which of your contacts are signed in as well from the contact list, the messaging app....this is very handy. Also the menu's have been cleaned up VERY well, and it's just generally more pleasing to navigate. It feels way less clunky than RC33.
Good job Google.
-The Browser. I'm noticing a big speed increase over the last version of Chrome-lite.
Not much else to say, I just felt like that should be mentioned.
-Bluetooth pairing. I noticed that when I paired my BT headset, I didn't have to enter a key this time.
Very nice.
-Live folders kick ass. I see a lot of potential here.
-Overall speed of Cupcake, the transitions and so forth. The menus flow nicely from one screen to the next, and the new transitions add to the whizbang factor that Android will need to gain more mainstream appeal. Enabling 'Fancy transitions' in Spare Parts is good for wowing your friends too.
Show em...then ask them if their iPhone can do that
Now onto the gripes:
-What happened to the Undelivered messages functions in SMS? Meaning, if a message fails to send, while we do get a prompt saying so, we dont have a way to resend the message (past retyping it). I don't know if it will attempt to resend after a certain period of time on it's own, but I don't think so. I've let undelivered messages sit for hours...and they never resend.
-No auto rotate on the home screen. I don't know if this is something JF chose to leave out of his build, or if this is just the way Cupcake is...but that seems kinda weird from a usability standpoint. If I'm using an app in landscape mode, and hit the home button...why would I want it to rotate back to portrait?
...Just to open the app again, and have it rotate back to landscape?
-I'll wait before T-Mo releases the RC version of Cupcake before submitting this as a feature request but I noticed that all phone numbers, addresses & such in the browser are not clickable. Meaning if a run a search for a business...and the phone number shows in the results field, I can't always click on it to dial. This was the one thing I always loved about the Blackberry browser (though Chrome kicks it's ass in every other regard).
...Your thoughts?
just to say i have not had the issue with clicking on phonenumbers on webapages.
rigamrts said:
just to say i have not had the issue with clicking on phonenumbers on webapages.
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i have and its even more frustrating with phone numbers in emails. maybe its set to pick up US number formats and not UK. i'm not sure.
thefunkygibbon said:
i have and its even more frustrating with phone numbers in emails. maybe its set to pick up US number formats and not UK. i'm not sure.
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Let me see if I can explain this properly...
I run a google search for say, "Pizza Hut Baltimore." In the list of results, I can click the phone number to dial for the top result only. If one of the results further down has a number in the description field, I cannot click it. Nor the address for that matter. Now if I click the link of the result, and go to the page...I can then click the number, address etc.
To me personally this is not a HUGE deal. In fact I considered it as normal since I noticed that same thing in RC33.
Overall, it's what i wanted. I will say that having the home screen autorotate might be a bit of a battery drain. It seemed to when i had it running on rooted rc33. Whenever i turned it off there was a noticeable improvement in battery life. I'm just saying.
The home screen didn't auto-rotate in the adp 1.5 build either. That's just how it is.
Messages not being sent:
Long click the message that didn't send, press edit, then send again.
No 'Home' button in the browser now. I've been clicking space + menu for awhile now but not having it makes one handed navigation slightly more difficult.
For SMS that are unsent, it will show an envelope with an exclamaition point to the right of it correct? Well what you can do it tap on that icon and it will put it back into the text field. that way you can just tap send again without retyping it.
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No 'Home' button in the browser now. I've been clicking space + menu for awhile now but not having it makes one handed navigation slightly more difficult.
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That's a HUGE gripe of mine as well.
I wish there was an easy html or xml file that we could edit and change every one of those buttons. The GO button is a waste of space too since you basically can just type any url and hit enter and there you go. That GO could nicely be replaced with HOME.
Just to update this thread:
-Several apps I have installed show as no updates being available (in the Market). As a workaround, I have to select the app, then click 'View more applications' and then the update shows. Very annoying...
-WiFi perfomance is very flaky. I routinely have to toggle it on/off a few times before it picks up an IP. This happens at multiple locations, across different brand routers, so it has to be the phone.
I do not have anything special going on aside from running JF's v1.51. No apps2sd, themes...none of that, and I did wipe before and after installing the update.
....but I think the majority of these problems are cause by the recent radio update. If you search around...the issues are well documented.
Thinking of trying out windows phone, have opportunity to swap my note for an 8x, how will I find WP, can I still use my google calendar, mail etc....not to bothered about games.
No chance at a nokia 920 instead of the 8x? Nokia has far superiour extra apps.
Gmail support used to be good but i'm not sure with Google dropping activesync how well it is. Hotmail / outlook push works really well though.
If you configure it before July it will continue to work (GMail Sync via ActiveSync). Everything after that point depends on the next WP8 Update (GDR2) and Microsoft's implementation of CardDAV and CalDAV. What you will lose if reconfiguring to CalDAV/CardDAV will be Push Mail as WP does not support Push via IMAP. Until now there has been no indication that Microsoft would implement it.
If it's not too late I wouldn't recommend it unless you've had a chance to use the phone personally. I'm going back to android asap. Firstly a few little grievances with my Lumia 720.
The notification bar that you're used to in android in automatically hidden with no chance of changing it not to. You'll have to minimize whatever app you're using just to check the time etc.
No forward button in the browser.
It just took me 20 attempts to move the cursor to the start of the sentence after '720' so as I could hit the enter button without highlighting the word 'The' (if I didn't it would have overwritten it.
That's just the start. I understand it is a very new operating system and that it will get better with time but I'm not going to wait for months for things that shouldn't be happening in the first place.
Sounds like a case of PEBTAWIBY (Problem Exists Between Touchscreen And Whatever Is Behind You). Even in apps that hide the notification bar (most don't), you can press-and-hold Back to bring up the task switcher; it has the bar. You can also tap Power twice to go back to the lock screen, it has the bar (and the time in great big numbers). The lack of a Forward button I'll grant you (although Histroy does well enough at some times) but it's trivially easy to add back though bookmarklets; check my sig (also things like View Source). As for moving the cursor, did it never occur to you to tap-and-hold on the text and bring up the cursor mode (same as on both Android and iOS, incidentally)? Single taps are generally intended to select words.
With all that said, anybody making a multi-hundred-dollar purchase without knowing what to expect is making a big mistake. You definitely should try out WP8 before buying.
1- I think all google services will work with no major problems except for google maps navigation which you can replace with HERE Drive, there are also alot of Google maps clients available but no turn by turn navigation AFAIK
2- It is confirmed that the GDR2 update coming in June/July will bring CalDAV/CardDAV support
3- UC brower it is a bit more customizable than IE
I thought I would give the stock keyboard a chance as I usually use SwiftKey on my note 2. I thought it had improved until I tried SwiftKey again and realised how much better it is still.
What are your thoughts on Samsung stock keyboard?
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I did the same but SwiftKey is so much faster no matter how you use it. That and the multiple language support is fantastic!
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The samsung keyboard is like a big iphone keyboard. Can't long press for captions or symbols smh... What's the point?
I find a make so many more spelling mistakes with the stock keyboard. It's a shame really.
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Made a post about this in another section. . I've tried so many keyboards recently, and over the course of many years.. Swipe was awesome when phones were only 3.7-4-3" .. it still is kind of neat , but frankly I never seem to use swipe. So swiftkey was for me as well.. bought it a long time ago and used it as my primary keyboard for the past many phones.
Recently I saw someone post another keyboard recommendation,. Called Kii Keyboard. Its pretty much the best of all worlds, what I love about it, its super easy to customize. So its like Swiftkey in everyway, but more custom options,.
Advantages of Swiftkey?
I've not used Swiftkey since I had the SGS1.
What's the advantage over Swype?
I have used Swype since the 1, and as my 5 arrived today, first thing i did after uninstalling the Optus bloat was to add Swype.
It is one of the few apps I've actually paid for
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I've not used Swiftkey since I had the SGS1.
What's the advantage over Swype?
I have used Swype since the 1, and as my 5 arrived today, first thing i did after uninstalling the Optus bloat was to add Swype.
It is one of the few apps I've actually paid for
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Both SwiftKey and the Samsung keyboard also support swiping now.
The advantage of SwiftKey is you can use the swype style if you want, or you can do regular typing without spaces and it'll work out what you are writing. The latter technique is way faster and more accurate than swyping in most cases, and you can still swipe if you want as well!
I have been using swift key since the galaxy s2 and never looked back. Every time I use another keyboard I always wish it was swift key. When I first got my s5 I used the stock one for a little bit and was making mistakes left and right and the predictions were not very good.
Anyone that I have recommended swift key to loves it as well.
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Samsung licenses Swiftkey
Samsung Keyboard is actually "SwiftKey (TouchType Limited)" edition that has been themed for Samsung.
PROOF: Go to SETTINGS | LANGUAGE AND INPUT | SAMSUNG KEYBOARD SETTINGS (gear icon) | PREDICTIVE TEXT | PRIVACY POLICY
Takes you directly to.... drum roll.. SwiftKey site and lists the privacy policy for the software Samsung licensed.
The reason I point this out is that other than some big theme changes, the engine for prediction (when fully enabled) is SwiftKey. To reduce my memory footprint, even though I own SwiftKey that I'd purchased back when I used an S3, I've not installed it again. That said, I've used both.
Baring the themes and the cloud service to sync your predictions to your multiple devices, performance should be identical.
Granted, it's well hidden, but here's how to unlock more of the Swiftkeyness (sp?):
1. Go to SETTINGS.
2. Go to "Language and Input".
3. Click on the settings icon for "Samsung Keyboard".
4. Note, you can add more input languages (scroll down as you need the additional languages list).
5. Click on "Predictive Text".
You can now learn from Facebook, Gmail, Twitter, Messages and so on to improve the predictions. This is part of the Swiftkey magic, to learn from the services you use.
6. Go back to Samsung Keyboard Settings.
7. Click on Keyboard swipe.
Interesting, one of the selections (default) is SwiftKey Flow. A further indication that it's licensed from SwiftKey.
Granted two significant features are missing, but I've actually come to like the extra row of keys for the numbers. Just wish Samsung would license the full product so that themes would be possible.
So, in summary, if you haven't purchased SwiftKey yet try enabling all the additional prediction features to get a closer experience to the full SwiftKey product. If the keyboard theme is not to your liking, then the full product version is entirely worth it.
I own it and I want to see SwiftKey continue to do well, but if you are also concerned about memory resources and the theme is not a problem then enjoy the built-in SwiftKey (TouchType Limited) or "limited freebie".
SeaFractor said:
Samsung Keyboard is actually "SwiftKey (TouchType Limited)" edition that has been themed for Samsung.
PROOF: Go to SETTINGS | LANGUAGE AND INPUT | SAMSUNG KEYBOARD SETTINGS (gear icon) | PREDICTIVE TEXT | PRIVACY POLICY
Takes you directly to.... drum roll.. SwiftKey site and lists the privacy policy for the software Samsung licensed.
The reason I point this out is that other than some big theme changes, the engine for prediction (when fully enabled) is SwiftKey. To reduce my memory footprint, even though I own SwiftKey that I'd purchased back when I used an S3, I've not installed it again. That said, I've used both.
Baring the themes and the cloud service to sync your predictions to your multiple devices, performance should be identical.
Granted, it's well hidden, but here's how to unlock more of the Swiftkeyness (sp?):
1. Go to SETTINGS.
2. Go to "Language and Input".
3. Click on the settings icon for "Samsung Keyboard".
4. Note, you can add more input languages (scroll down as you need the additional languages list).
5. Click on "Predictive Text".
You can now learn from Facebook, Gmail, Twitter, Messages and so on to improve the predictions. This is part of the Swiftkey magic, to learn from the services you use.
6. Go back to Samsung Keyboard Settings.
7. Click on Keyboard swipe.
Interesting, one of the selections (default) is SwiftKey Flow. A further indication that it's licensed from SwiftKey.
Granted two significant features are missing, but I've actually come to like the extra row of keys for the numbers. Just wish Samsung would license the full product so that themes would be possible.
So, in summary, if you haven't purchased SwiftKey yet try enabling all the additional prediction features to get a closer experience to the full SwiftKey product. If the keyboard theme is not to your liking, then the full product version is entirely worth it.
I own it and I want to see SwiftKey continue to do well, but if you are also concerned about memory resources and the theme is not a problem then enjoy the built-in SwiftKey (TouchType Limited) or "limited freebie".
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Whether this is true or not, SwiftKey performs so much better with more precise key presses and less mistakes. Samsung need to perform some sort of better key calibration imo.
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simacca said:
Whether this is true or not, SwiftKey performs so much better with more precise key presses and less mistakes. Samsung need to perform some sort of better key calibration imo.
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I do not disagree that the ability to load a theme on SwiftKey that has a better keyboard layout and key size is fantastic.
The best thing for Samsung? License the keyboard themes from SwiftKey so that we can choose a better layout without having to install another product.
SwiftKey still makes money on each phone sold, or at least that would be the prudent method to license, so even if this reduced SwiftKey purchases they'd make great money if the Samsung Keyboard mirrored even more SwiftKey customizability.
simacca said:
I thought I would give the stock keyboard a chance as I usually use SwiftKey on my note 2. I thought it had improved until I tried SwiftKey again and realised how much better it is still.
What are your thoughts on Samsung stock keyboard?
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Am not a fan of Samsung stock keyboard. Am also using an application for my keyboard.
swiftkey for the win!!
simply because it synchronizes all your data and you have the same keyboard no matter what device you will have in the future instead of having to relearn everything..
As has been pointed out the Samsung keyboard is Swiftkey. Adapt it more to your liking in the keyboard settings. If you have used Swiftkey on a previous device and setup a cloud account it will be faster as it has already learnt from your typing. The Samsung Keyboard gets better over time. Also, the Samsung Keyboard has shortcut texts keys for the numbers. Long press a number to insert text. I like this alot.
for example -
Long Press 1 - I'm in a meeting, cant talk , will call you back as soon as possible
TouchPal is not a bad option although the subscription model sucks. Kii Keyboard lacks the ability to learn from Facebook etc.
I have to say that my main issue with the Samsung keyboard is the lack of symbols on the main keyboard which allows for quicker typing and the fact it takes up so much damn screen space with no option to resize.
Any of you never gave a shot to google keyboard? You can enable swipe typing on it. And it's better (for me) at predicting new words than both swiftkey and sammy's. It feels like good old swype when it was fast (even faster).
I love Swiftkey but it drives me nuts that it doesn't always give me the option to "learn" some of the various words I use. I really wish it would let me manually add words to my dictionary. Because sometimes when I type something, it does not show me what I'm typing up top. The three choices it gives me are totally not what I'm typing, so I can't add the word.
And would be even sweeter if I could give some words a priority rating, like "high" or "medium" or "low".
And as I'm typing, Swiftkey will move the correct predictive word from the middle, over to the left, just as I'm about to click on the prediction. Drives me nuts.
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I love Swiftkey but it drives me nuts that it doesn't always give me the option to "learn" some of the various words I use. I really wish it would let me manually add words to my dictionary. Because sometimes when I type something, it does not show me what I'm typing up top. The three choices it gives me are totally not what I'm typing, so I can't add the word.
And would be even sweeter if I could give some words a priority rating, like "high" or "medium" or "low".
And as I'm typing, Swiftkey will move the correct predictive word from the middle, over to the left, just as I'm about to click on the prediction. Drives me nuts.
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did you link it to your google account?
that is the whole point of swiftkey...that it learns....and that you can sync it across various devices
mine has everything learned, like my address...when i type in the street number, the street name, etc pops up as a choice next
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did you link it to your google account?
that is the whole point of swiftkey...that it learns....and that you can sync it across various devices
mine has everything learned, like my address...when i type in the street number, the street name, etc pops up as a choice next
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Yes, it's linked to my Google. I've been a SwiftKey user for two-three+ years now.
And no, it does not learn everything.
But yeah it knows my address and so many other things, which is why I love it.
Reposting from where I previously put this, on the suggestion that folks here might have more idea what I am talking about.
Yes, this is a question but I couldn't see that it fit in better to one of the other forums. If I am wrong please accept my apologies and redirect me, thanks.
I'm trying to work with a custom build of Android based on KitKat to incorporate a stylus, copying some of the functionality (though not code) from Samsung which sells Android-with-stylus builds for e.g. the Note 3. I'm not including details of the specific device because right now I am working on a custom dev device and my aim is to write code which is generic enough to be usable from any Android (based on KitKat). The build (written by others) already incorporates drivers and sends stylus events correctly as motion events etc. Programming at the app level I can receive onHover, onTouch, onClick etc
The specific functionality I am trying to achieve is to pick up a stylus-button-click while hovering. It's perfectly possible to do this in any app, using an onGenericMotion Listener.
However, I want to make my "stylus-action" have system-wide effect - so that anywhere (in any other app, or in the launcher or whatever) I will pick up the event (prior to any other app) and bring up my custom menu. (just like AirCommand in Samsung Note 3) I guess in my custom Android this would then make that particular action somewhat protected or unusable for other users, but I'm ok with that.
In older Android (prior to ICS) you could try something by putting up a System Overlay (i.e in regular app code, without hacking the ROM at all), but this is no longer possible.
This is not an attempt to tapjack or whatever, I understand why this functionality has been removed from the domain of the regular programmer, and I don't want to regress my ROM back to pre-ICS behaviour by allowing the System Overlay hack. Now I am programming the system (if my change is good enough I'd like to submit it back to AOSP) so I would like to know the best method to address this. Since Samsung have already done this, it must be legal (using legal in the terms of "Android will allow it"), and I want to do it right.
Is it possible to write something similar to the System Overlay when you are running from a system service? Or is there a good choke-point to capture events before they are broadcast to the current running apps?
I was looking at (sorry, not allowed to post links) AndroidXRef /frameworks/base/core/java/android/view/View.java specifically in the function dispatchHoverEvent() which looks like a promising place. My naive idea is that I would place code here checking the MotionEvent to see if the button is pressed and if it is, don't call any listeners and instead call my little menu app (or broadcast a custom message, or something anyway). However, I've never written code on the ROM level before (LOTS of experience writing app code) so I don't know if this is a really bad point or a good point to add in code. Should I be putting things at a higher level or a lower one? Will this capture all events or not? Is it all just trial and error?
If this is the wrong place to ask questions like this, please tell me where on XDA I should be asking it. If it's the right place - please answer
Thanks
Kibi
Just recently when texting, all my words have the first letter capitalized (like a headline). I know that I can cycle through the Shift key to return to lower case, but I want it to only capitalize the first word in a sentence. I see the selection of Capitalize first word in sentence and have selected it.
I am using the Samsung keyboard with swipe enabled.
Samsung released an update for the Samsung keyboard issues. Check your updates on the Galaxy Apps app
...and that update indeed solves the issue, it drove me crazy...
My note 8 has also just recently started capitalizing the first letter of every word. I just checked to see if there were any current updates and my most recent update was 2-4-18.
I'm having the same problem with capitalization. I took my phone to the store, but they didn't know how to fix it. I hope Sprint comes up with a fix. I swype all my messages and it's annoying
Did you check for updates for keyboard app in Galaxy App store? This solved the issue...
You may also look in the keyboard settings - about app, to see if latest version is installed and update from there, if applicable.