Hello all,
I purchased an at&t variant moto x from a guy on a buy sell trade group on Facebook. The phone is legit and released from at&t. I have my cricket wireless Sim in now and it works great; however, I didn't think about it being released. Will this affect getting an update to lollipop? Am I left with rooting my device if I want lollipop?
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If your device is running the stock firmware and Stock recovery and no system changes, it should still come. When it's out. And your turn comes up. Sim doesn't matter, it's the firmware that matters. ?
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Why is that?
What are you really trying to ask? Whether or not the boot loader (or possibly SIM) is locked has nothing to do with available updates
I'm just wondering why the Moto X has not been moved up to 4.4.2 while the Moto G has. I figured if they would move the Moto X up to 4.4.2.
I see the sprint version and the other carrier versions getting the update. Who will update the unlocked version of the Moto X?
Shoops said:
I'm just wondering why the Moto X has not been moved up to 4.4.2 while the Moto G has. I figured if they would move the Moto X up to 4.4.2.
I see the sprint version and the other carrier versions getting the update. Who will update the unlocked version of the Moto X?
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I'm actually not sure how the unlocked GSM version gets its updates (I have VZW). I was under the impression it was through your carrier anyway, or by manually flashing after the fastboot files are released. In either case, the updates are starting to roll out, but are not yet available for US carriers
All of the updates come direct from Motorola - for all models of the Moto X and Moto G. The carriers simply "approve" of the firmware and give Motorola the ok to release it. The Dev/retail/tmobile edition (XT1053) which I assume you are referring to as the unlocked version requires no carrier approval but they likely test it with tmobile(and possibly other carriers) before releasing it.
4.4.2 for the US versions of the Moto X will be out very soon, it has been released for Canada and Brazil variations so far.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up.
Soak tests are already in play from what I hear, Verizon, T-Mobile, USC. Its comin :thumbup:
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From what I read it might be because Moto G shipped with 4.4, so they got 1 update.. whereas we shipped with 4.2 and also got an update to 4.4.. so they started later.. not sure exactly.. but we should have it soon!
Plus there's more to update for the moto x and potentially more labor intensive as well since its a custom chip set essentially with the dual core krait 300 and the low power sensor processors. The moto g does not have the active display or the x8 system... But rather just a standard quad core qcom chip AMD LCD. Who knows how long Motorola was working on 4.4.2 for the g before it came out.
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If you have the unlocked gsm from Motorola who will supply you with your update?
Motorola but they are doing the tmo soak test anyway. Its a great build though because you don't get stuck with a carrier logo on the left like some of the other 4.4.2 builds.
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After calling Motorola I'm pretty sure we have to wait till the carrier okay's it. When I called Motorola they just sent me the same link I already had for the files, which only had what's current. I was on T-Mobile for about a week and after i changed my SIM back to AT&T my phone said i had an update....don't know why..I downloaded it but forgot i still had twrp instead of stock. It rebooted (after not installing) and when i checked my phone said up to date and still on 4.4...
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I just received my update to 4.4.2. Still not sure who the update came from. I have the unlocked gsm version that came with the tmobile sim but I am on at&t.
The update is out for anyone with XT1053 now. You can even grab it here if you are rooted or otherwise unable to get OTA updates.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2638090
[Q] Possible to get AT&T 4.4.2 update on AT&T Moto X without being an AT&T customer?
I want to purchase a used AT&T Moto X 16GB from a private seller. I intend to use the Moto X on a 3rd party MVNO pre-paid carrier (H2O Wireless who is owned by ATT).
This is a completely stock ATT Moto X 16GB that currently runs 4.4 where both the BL and sim are locked.
Once ATT releases the official 4.4.2 after the soak testing, how will I be able to update to 4.4.2 without ATT service? Will I have to wait for someone here to hopefully post the official ATT version and then try installing via WiFi?
Or would I download it from here to a PC and then copy it to the Moto X internal storage via fastboot USB and then install via recovery?
I have asked 3 different customer reps at H2O Wireless if their network accesses AT&T's OTA updates and they were clueless. Naturally, that would be the easiest approach but I don't want to depend on them for any future Android updates.
Thanks for your help.
No, you will not receive the update. Sure, you own a AT&T Moto X, but H20 is still separate from(even though owned by) AT&T and thus will have to release their own update.
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Zombienaut said:
No, you will not receive the update. Sure, you own a AT&T Moto X, but H20 is still separate from(even though owned by) AT&T and thus will have to release their own update.
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So what if someone buys a Moto X from ATT who only wants to use it as a WiFi device? They just buy the phone for full retail price and not a wireless plan.
Are you saying such customers aren't entitled to AT&T Android updates specifically for their device via WiFi?
Well, yes you can actually receive the update via WiFi only. I forgot about that.
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droydr said:
I want to purchase a used AT&T Moto X 16GB from a private seller. I intend to use the Moto X on a 3rd party MVNO pre-paid carrier (H2O Wireless who is owned by ATT).
This is a completely stock ATT Moto X 16GB that currently runs 4.4 where both the BL and sim are locked.
Once ATT releases the official 4.4.2 after the soak testing, how will I be able to update to 4.4.2 without ATT service? Will I have to wait for someone here to hopefully post the official ATT version and then try installing via WiFi?
Or would I download it from here to a PC and then copy it to the Moto X internal storage via fastboot USB and then install via recovery?
I have asked 3 different customer reps at H2O Wireless if their network accesses AT&T's OTA updates and they were clueless. Naturally, that would be the easiest approach but I don't want to depend on them for any future Android updates.
Thanks for your help.
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It doesn't matter what network you are on. The carriers don't push the updates. Moto does. It will be seen by Moto as an AT&T variant and will be push the update. However, you may want to be on WIFI since these updates can be rather data consuming.
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Dark9781 said:
It doesn't matter what network you are on. The carriers don't push the updates. Moto does. It will be seen by Moto as an AT&T variant and will be push the update. However, you may want to be on WIFI since these updates can be rather data consuming.
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This ^^^
My phone has never been on Rogers, and I got the ota same as all the Rogers phones.
Sent from my cell phone telephone....
kj2112 said:
This ^^^
My phone has never been on Rogers, and I got the ota same as all the Rogers phones.
Sent from my cell phone telephone....
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sure you will get the OTA; I got mine (soak test), on unrooted, stock ATT Moto X, using on Dutch carrier. Don't worry about it.
Hi,
I just bought the Moto X from At&t (contract). I hear that the PE is already getting Android 5.0 Updates! Is there any chance the I can get those updates? I do not mind purchasing unlock codes etc.
If not, any idea how long At&t will take to infect the 5.0 update with their stuff and send out the updates? Or should I just return this and purchase the Pure Edition.
Thanks
ayushag96 said:
Hi,
I just bought the Moto X from At&t (contract). I hear that the PE is already getting Android 5.0 Updates! Is there any chance the I can get those updates? I do not mind purchasing unlock codes etc.
If not, any idea how long At&t will take to infect the 5.0 update with their stuff and send out the updates? Or should I just return this and purchase the Pure Edition.
Thanks
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Supposibly the XT1095 (Pure) is getting a soak test from what I am reading. If you have the money I would recomend getting that over the AT&T version. I currently have the XT1095 and using it on AT&T.
Either are great phones, however with the AT&T version your locked to AT&T and locked boot loader.
If money isn't an issue, return it and get the Pure Edition. No bloatware, and it has an unlockable bootloader and is very easily rooted. Otherwise, just sit tight, your X will get official lollipop VERY soon.
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So I just got my Moto X pure edition that ships with a tmobile sim, I connected to wifi and I am downloading the OTA update but I left the tmobile sim in. I am going to be using this phone on AT&T though, so that is why I am asking. I notice in some of the baseband and other labels I see the letters TMO which to me means tmobile but it may be unrelated.
Thanks and sorry if this is a stupid question.
It is the pure it will work on AT&T fine. It supports both networks just fine. The baseband does have the TMO name in it but does not matter. Just keeps it different from the AT&T version.
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It is the pure it will work on AT&T fine. It supports both networks just fine. The baseband does have the TMO name in it but does not matter. Just keeps it different from the AT&T version.
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Thanks, I figured as much but just wanted to be sure.
keep that tmobile sim. AT&T hasn't even released Lollipop yet, so if you throw that tmobile SIM when everyone else is starting to get updates, you should get the update too. If you try to update with the AT&T SIM in, you're going to be waiting quite a while.
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keep that tmobile sim. AT&T hasn't even released Lollipop yet, so if you throw that tmobile SIM when everyone else is starting to get updates, you should get the update too. If you try to update with the AT&T SIM in, you're going to be waiting quite a while.
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With the pure edition it does not matter what Sim you have in the phone. You get your updates from Motorola not the carrier.
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My 2 year plan will be up in Sept. so I will be eligible for a phone upgrade with a new contract. I was thinking about getting an S5 (have an S3 currently), but see that they have locked down the bootloader pretty hard in Lollipop & anyone who took the OTA is pretty much screwed as far as downgrading goes.
My question is, what is the likelihood that come September a new (not a refurb) S5 will or will not come with Lollipop already installed? And if it does, is it the same as OTA in which the bootloader is locked? Or is it different if it comes pre-installed?
Thanks!
Yes, a new phone is guaranteed to have lollipop and it is the same as ota. You will not be able to root a new phone, period. Once updates come out, all new phones have that update so if you want root then you will have to look for used that hasn't been updated or buy a different model.
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Yes, a new phone is guaranteed to have lollipop and it is the same as ota. You will not be able to root a new phone, period. Once updates come out, all new phones have that update so if you want root then you will have to look for used that hasn't been updated or buy a different model.
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I just got my AT&T S5 in May and it is an OA1 running KitKat. I was able to ignore the OTA and eventually get to a lollipop custom rom. I bought my S5 from Amazon Wireless.
People seem to be still getting them with OA1, but won't last long.
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People seem to be still getting them with OA1, but won't last long.
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............. I have seen a few too............ Unfortunately this guy says he won't be upgrading till September, by then they all will probably be 5.0 but also by then we might have root............
I received my S5, roughly 1 month ago. My buddy got first pone in mail, it had 5.0 pre-installed. I got the 2nd phone, mine had 4.4 KK. Both are 900A (ATT).