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OK I've been round wifi for awhile now so not sure when this started but I'm n a roaming/edge network and I don't get ne data connection anymore and have no idea why please anyone help?? Running cm 5.0.5.3 now came from baked goods 1.1
Try toggling airplane mod on and off. This help me once.
jerrycycle said:
Try toggling airplane mod on and off. This help me once.
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Thanks for the tip but tried it ten times didn't work for me. Tried full wipe and really flashing but still don't get it
Same issue here. I notice if I force it to Edge then Edge works, but no 3G after 5.0.5.3 and i flashed the EPE54B radio with the apps. I'm thinking it's the radio but i can't find the previous image to test it out...
kamikazimonky said:
Thanks for the tip but tried it ten times didn't work for me. Tried full wipe and really flashing but still don't get it
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I have the same issue after flash CM5.05.3 and radio EPE54B.
It can't use airplan mode to solve the problem, only reboot.
Does any sollution? Help !!
After trying a million things my sister tells me her mytocuh is having the same issue. I called T-Mobile and they don't know crap. It just now started working again for me almost a day later out of the blue.
Yea I still for nothing no edge or roams mg data just got calling network irk what it is so guess just deal with it. Closest city with 3g to me is 40mi lol
Sounds like a problems with T-Mobile and not the ROM. Make sure you have "Allot data connection while roaming" checked also or you'll never have data while roaming
martin0285 said:
Sounds like a problems with T-Mobile and not the ROM. Make sure you have "Allot data connection while roaming" checked also or you'll never have data while roaming
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yea bout the only reason left. yes i have allow data raoming on but get nothing. dont know if its radio kernel or cyan or what
Hi guys,
I have this strange problem, it even seems random.
After I turn wifi off, my Note does not connect to 3g anymore.
And I have to reboot the phone to get it working again.
Does anyone experience the same problem, or knows a sollution?
I rooted KK1 and flashed LA4 using Mobile Odin.
Cheers,
Daan
I've had this problem once, but it worked again after a reboot. Haven't experienced it again. It happened on KK5, but i flashed LA4 yesterday, so it's too early to tell if it will happen again.
It also happened on my Desire HD with MIUI and also while running CM7, so it might turn out to be a bug in Android.
I guess you had turned/switched off data network mode by pressing and holding the turn off button for two seconds.
Try and turn it off and see if it is the same symptom that you had before.
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m2b999 said:
I guess you had turned/switched off data network mode by pressing and holding the turn off button for two seconds.
Try and turn it off and see if it is the same symptom that you had before.
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No, this is not the issue.
I manually set the APN settings for Telfort, removing MMS and setting it up for "internet" only.
Did a wifi on/off cycle, with a short interval and it seems to work.
Going to test with a longer interval. Not completely convinced yet.
Hope it's fixed.
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edit: Not fixed!
On wifi for half an hour, turned it off and [email protected]#$% 3g does not connect anymore.
Maybe it's just Telfort. They don't have the Note listed on their website, but still.
My infuse 4g does this. I have to put it in airplane mode then back to get my data to reconnect. It did this stock and on serindipity 7. I couldn't find a fix either.
Goneeuro said:
My infuse 4g does this. I have to put it in airplane mode then back to get my data to reconnect. It did this stock and on serindipity 7. I couldn't find a fix either.
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Annoying stuff! Cycling airplane mode does not work for me, only a full reboot.
But if you had the problem too, It could be that it's the network's (in my case Telfort's) problem.
Maybe I have to get my sim replaced, but I'm switching to T-Mobile in about a month.
So it's a bit of a pain.
I am currently using the infuse on o2 in Germany, but it did it on att in the states also. I can't wait to get my note. I am just waiting for it to be released on o2 over here. They have the black but I really want a white one.
Goneeuro said:
I am currently using the infuse on o2 in Germany, but it did it on att in the states also. I can't wait to get my note. I am just waiting for it to be released on o2 over here. They have the black but I really want a white one.
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Telfort used to be O2, it has been using KPN's network for a while now.
So it's probably not connected. Though it is a strange coincidence.
I'm off today, I think I'll walk by the Telfort store to ask for a new sim or something.
Maybe they'll have to flip a switch somewhere.
DaanJordaan said:
Telfort used to be O2, it has been using KPN's network for a while now.
So it's probably not connected. Though it is a strange coincidence.
I'm off today, I think I'll walk by the Telfort store to ask for a new sim or something.
Maybe they'll have to flip a switch somewhere.
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Did u try keeping network mode in "WCDMA Only" ??
DaanJordaan said:
Telfort used to be O2, it has been using KPN's network for a while now.
So it's probably not connected. Though it is a strange coincidence.
I'm off today, I think I'll walk by the Telfort store to ask for a new sim or something.
Maybe they'll have to flip a switch somewhere.
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what i think is..i had dis problem too...
if minor tweaks dnt work...format yr phone..n if it still aint working
change your firmware...
still nt working den i would blame the network..!!
ranjan.alva said:
Did u try keeping network mode in "WCDMA Only" ??
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Thanks for the reply, yes I tried it. Did not work sadly
drashish36 said:
what i think is..i had dis problem too...
if minor tweaks dnt work...format yr phone..n if it still aint working
change your firmware...
still nt working den i would blame the network..!!
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Yeah you're right, I have to troubleshoot properly. But it's such a pain
And I think I recall having this problem a few roms back as well.
I'm not sure because I was on wifi all the time.
But I have to wipe, I'll use titanium backup so it won't be such a hard blow
Man I'm going to pissed if it turns out to be the network
DaanJordaan said:
Thanks for the reply, yes I tried it. Did not work sadly
Yeah you're right, I have to troubleshoot properly. But it's such a pain
And I think I recall having this problem a few roms back as well.
I'm not sure because I was on wifi all the time.
But I have to wipe, I'll use titanium backup so it won't be such a hard blow
Man I'm going to pissed if it turns out to be the network
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Thats a pain i was so tired of formating,..reformatting....coz many custom firmware have some error and new updates keep coming almost daily...and all ask to wipe for best experience..dat was when i finally decided to come bk to stock and stick to it...
yeah it doesnt hav those fancy colors and throbbing speed which a custom rom boosts about but...but hey everythin works flawlessly and i dnt have any tension of random reboots and alarm not ringing..or any smartphone related error to comeup...plus all my apps and schedule is there forever no reinstalling tension....enjoying my phone....
Okay, so I I did a full wipe and installed a deodexed rooted LA4.
I still have this issue.
Also tested on KK1 stock and still experienced this issue.
If it does this on KK1 and LA4 it's reason enough for me to believe it's the network.
I'll just wait for my T-Mobile plan to start. Meh.
edit: It seems to work just fine on CM9 :-/
Hello.
I recently dusted off my Australian Velocity after the Nexus 5 went for a swim at the beach. I have S-off, rooted and installed the albinoman ROM.
There are a couple of issues I have noticed so far.
The 4g connection is patchy at best. Not very stable at all but I can live with that.
The battery indicator is acting strangely it stays in 100% for ages but then it starts going down very quickly until it gets to 14% where it stays for a long time but once it gets past that it just goes to full discharge very fast.
I am having the same issue that many other guys and my MMS capabilities are not working. The phone just stays sending or retrying but messages never leave.
Any suggestions about what to do? I have wiped and reinstalled the ROM a few times and it makes no difference.
On the other hand I love the overclocking capabilities makes the phone feel a bit more responsive.
Thanks and keep up the good work
munecito said:
Hello.
I recently dusted off my Australian Velocity after the Nexus 5 went for a swim at the beach. I have S-off, rooted and installed the albinoman ROM.
There are a couple of issues I have noticed so far.
The 4g connection is patchy at best. Not very stable at all but I can live with that.
The battery indicator is acting strangely it stays in 100% for ages but then it starts going down very quickly until it gets to 14% where it stays for a long time but once it gets past that it just goes to full discharge very fast.
I am having the same issue that many other guys and my MMS capabilities are not working. The phone just stays sending or retrying but messages never leave.
Any suggestions about what to do? I have wiped and reinstalled the ROM a few times and it makes no difference.
On the other hand I love the overclocking capabilities makes the phone feel a bit more responsive.
Thanks and keep up the good work
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As for the 4G connection, once you've accumulated 10 posts you should mention this in the CM 11 ROM thread and ask if the APN needs to be any different than normal (or if the mod changes the APN). The battery issue should get fixed if you let it fully charge and fully discharge about 3 times. The MMS capabilities is a known issue; try the specific nightlies that albinoman recommended to fix the MMS issue. New nightlies might break previous fixes and stuff.
Same Issue
I'm having the same issue here for AT&T HTC Vivid, none of my MMS were sent, nor have I received any. It's really essential for me cuz of my group, clubs have MMS and inorder for me to get those notifications I need MMS.
Calls are okay, but there are times where there's no sound on the other caller, so to fix that I end call and call again, which fixes it.
One final issue I've been having since Jellybean and Kitkat is the proximity for when calls, it does not respond. So i have to turn on Settings>Accessibility>Power button to end a call, because the phone's screen stays black during call, and 10-30 seconds after call. Camera is okay too, but doesn;t function well in video recording in apps like Snapchat and Instagram.
Overall, it's a great ROM by albinoman, I wish the Sweep2Wake is soon embedded, that's really great and wayyy better than the power button.
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As for the 4G connection, once you've accumulated 10 posts you should mention this in the CM 11 ROM thread and ask if the APN needs to be any different than normal (or if the mod changes the APN). The battery issue should get fixed if you let it fully charge and fully discharge about 3 times. The MMS capabilities is a known issue; try the specific nightlies that albinoman recommended to fix the MMS issue. New nightlies might break previous fixes and stuff.
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Thank you very much.
I tried Albinoman suggested rom and I still have issues with MMS.
The battery indicator is normalising as you said it would.
I know about the 10 posts count but it is hard for me to just write a post for the sake of getting the count up.
Yeah, I hear ya, I've been there before too. The posts will generally come easily and quickly posting to q&a and general, so you're on the right track
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I'm also in Aus.
Been running CM versions now for over a year.
The new CM11 has been trouble free, with one quirky problem. I manually set my network preference to 2G at one desperate battery extending moment.
Now i can't find how to select "4G"??? When i use the preferred network type i only have 2 or 3G as options.
When i search for available networks i get an "error"
Cheers
Mike
Mikeyr1000 said:
I'm also in Aus.
Been running CM versions now for over a year.
The new CM11 has been trouble free, with one quirky problem. I manually set my network preference to 2G at one desperate battery extending moment.
Now i can't find how to select "4G"??? When i use the preferred network type i only have 2 or 3G as options.
When i search for available networks i get an "error"
Cheers
Mike
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Well, I just did what you did, and rebooting does not fix it, nor does clearing the data of various apps installed. I'll post this to the CM11 thread and see if any answers or ideas are brought to light.
ngelTV should
projectisaac said:
Well, I just did what you did, and rebooting does not fix it, nor does clearing the data of various apps installed. I'll post this to the CM11 thread and see if any answers or ideas are brought to light.
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Many thanks, i saw the post!
Yeah I tried clearing everything. Did a manual reinstall of the APNs using a number of different configs.
Did the wipes ....... did a little dance .... pulled the battery and sim ...... sacrificed a small packet of tofu (no goats, i like goats) The gods of mobility have still not smiled my way.
Wont find networks when i do a search yet am nicely connected, can make calls etc etc.
thanks for trying. If i get no joy will reflash a nightlie and see if it resets?!
Yeah, although wiping the caches didn't do the trick, reflashing a nightly (along with wiping data, cache, and dalvik-cache) should take care of the problem. If you are really attached to your app settings, look into titanium backup for backing up your apps along with their data; it's also the way I save my WiFi passwords.
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OK...
If you don't like my dialer solution... I have found 2 xposed mods that do what you want...
Intelli3G... And GravityBox...
They both hook the dialer to force network changes...
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
rignfool said:
OK...
If you don't like my dialer solution... I have found 2 xposed mods that do what you want...
Intelli3G... And GravityBox...
They both hook the dialer to force network changes...
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
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Hi, tried the dialer solution and no joy.
Installed INtelli3G but it needs the xposed framework which simply won't install. Have tweaked instal options appropriately so it should???
Mike
EDIT My bad, didn't like installing from bluetooth transfer, downloaded on phone worked .... will test I3G
Fixed
Many thanks rignfool
I installed xposed and Intelli3g and with a bit of mucking around now have 4g back!
Seems to work, have 4g 4 bars!
My initial attempts to force lte caused me to have no coverage (I was at work in North SYd so good LTE normally).
Using the "use all" option in Intelli3g, a reboot and swapping around towers was the trick for me.
Thanks again
Mike
Awesome! Do you want to make a step by step instruction set on how to fix that? I would like to know, and I'm sure a newbie who runs into the save problem would really appreciate it.
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Im on the newest nightly build of CM11, On ATT. MMS not working and I have no clue on how to get it to work. Anyone wanna help?
VividTheMan said:
Im on the newest nightly build of CM11, On ATT. MMS not working and I have no clue on how to get it to work. Anyone wanna help?
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Known issue, you just have to be patient until it gets fixed (no one has gotten it to work)
I recently took the plunge and updated to Cloudyfa's CloudyG3 2.0+ Rom and it is super awesome. There is a HUGE General Discussion thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56644031
Here is the main Rom thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783192
It is for all variants but it is a port of the GSM G3 rom. So some things aren't 100% on our VS980 roms. Just to be certain, everything is working for me but it takes a few tweaks, hence the point of this thread.
Here are the main issues off the top of my head:
Cellular doesn't work out of the box
You have to manually change it to LTE/CDMA. It took a few times to get this to work. I also use an app from the Play Store called "TellInfo" which lets you select "LTE/CDMA/EvDo/GSM/WCDMA" (which seems to work best for me). You also have to go into Settings > Tethering & Networks > Mobile Networks and select "Data Enabled" and "Data Roaming". The Network mode that seems to work best is "Global" mode.
I would advise that you check with your data plans to make sure you aren't being charged a crazy amount of money to roam on other networks. At this point (I travel), I haven't racked up any additional charges.
MMS doesn't work with the stock Messaging App
This requires downloading Textra or Hangouts for SMS/MMS handling. I like Textra.
Verizon Visual Voicemail doesn't work
I get a really weird text message when I get a voicemail. I assume this is trying to communicate to the Verizon Voicemail app. It doesn't work. I have to resort in manually checking voicemail the old fashion way. I am looking for better options
Other random facts
The keyboard no longer has arrow keys in the nav bar when typing. I've read the G3 rom keyboard is supposed to let you swipe the spacebar for left/right movement... but it doesn't work nor do I see any options.
WiFi File Sharing is gone from the G2. The G3 took this feature out, which is really really sad. A good alternative is "Samba Filesharing". Same thing except can't be launched from the Notification Shade
Otherwise, the rom is beautiful and pretty. The Xposed G3 Tweaksbox has tons of options for some really neat features. Everything else works the same/better then stock G2 software. I don't know if I could go back to the stock G2 rom after using this for a few weeks. Outside of the small issues listed above (SMS/MMS being the only semi-big one) it works and looks so good that it is a keeper.
Any additional tips and tricks to making the CloudyG3 rom work better on our VS980 Verizon LG G2s, please share!
For a Lollipop Theme using G3 Tweaksbox:
Theme: http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=5684#downloads
Notification Icons: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2717736
@player911
Although I appreciate the time you spent working this up for people, its in the wrong section.
This really should be in the Verizon specific General section (maybe q&a?)
Just to add on a bit. Any time I flash one of his ports, I just change the build prop.
I use ROM toolbox pro, light would work, but the app you really need (that's built into it) is root explorer.
I change the tele device to 10, country to US (make sure its caps) and carrier to vzw, and I never have an issue with LTE sticking or anything of the sort.
Obviously you would change the country if you don't live in the US.
I haven't done any of these changes and if seems fine...
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Thats weird I've been running this rom on my vs980 for a few weeks now. Everything worked perfect for me without having to mess with any settings at all. Also messaging worked without a hitch. Only thing i noticed while driving was the signal would say roaming sometimes. A reboot would correct this issue. Think it has something to do with the 3g to 4g hand off.
Jeff Zaugg said:
Thats weird I've been running this rom on my vs980 for a few weeks now. Everything worked perfect for me without having to mess with any settings at all. Also messaging worked without a hitch. Only thing i noticed while driving was the signal would say roaming sometimes. A reboot would correct this issue. Think it has something to do with the 3g to 4g hand off.
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If it is roaming that means you're in a 3g area
I tried this for awhile on more than one occasion and every time, my sms would eventually take hours or days to receive. It was maddening. Did not matter what app I used, fixed apn settings, tried everything. It would work for a day or two then messaging totally fell apart.
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Lawlrus said:
If it is roaming that means you're in a 3g area
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Are you actually roaming though? Or does it just say so?
mulhiny said:
Are you actually roaming though? Or does it just say so?
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Its cosmetic.
The reason it does it, is because the ROMs he builds are based off of international builds. So they don't cater to vs/ls980 as they use cdma
Edit: Same reason why the stock messengers won't send mms
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Also, I just flashed the new cloudyg3 2.1, (I think?) and it looks like all the normal changes I make to the build prop are already done.
Country and tele device number.
I am having MTP issue. It refuses to go into MTP mode.
Does anyone know how to fix this?
I put build.prop fix in and it did not make any difference.
Otherwise, it appear to be pretty good. But battery drain seem a bit higher than stock.
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Its cosmetic.
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Great to hear..I'll note that the G3 tweaksbox has an option to kill the roaming icon and then you can use the Verizon icons..perfect.
Since flashing this last night I've had no troubles. GPS, LTE, MTP, everything is working...
"Verizon Visual Voicemail doesn't work
I get a really weird text message when I get a voicemail. I assume this is trying to communicate to the Verizon Voicemail app. It doesn't work. I have to resort in manually checking voicemail the old fashion way. I am looking for better options"
anyone solve this? Same problem for me with any custom rom.
Does anyone know how to get the automatic login working for the my verizon mobile app? I tried inatalling the verizon login from the play store and that didnt work, so I tried restoring a backup of the app from stock and that didnt work. I converted both to system apps and that didnt work either! ? Anyone please help its important that i get this working.
mrdunn said:
"Verizon Visual Voicemail doesn't work
I get a really weird text message when I get a voicemail. I assume this is trying to communicate to the Verizon Voicemail app. It doesn't work. I have to resort in manually checking voicemail the old fashion way. I am looking for better options"
anyone solve this? Same problem for me with any custom rom.
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I gave up on VVM a while ago. Had to call Verizon and have them deactivate it. Now I just get a regular notification when I have a VM.
The only good alternative to actual VVM I've found is Google voice.
How does CloudyG3 perform compared to an AOSP rom on our G2? I'm running AICP right now and love the stock feel, but have some issues like GPS. Is the G3 UI that much better than AOSP?
com.android.phone keeps crashing on me.. basically making the phone useless on this rom. Anyone else have this issue? If so.. any luck fixing it?
Lawlrus said:
@player911
Although I appreciate the time you spent working this up for people, its in the wrong section.
This really should be in the Verizon specific General section (maybe q&a?)
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Well my intention was to put it in the VS980 General Section. Im not sure if it got moved or where it currently is, as I am on mobile.
I am running 2.0 and heard 2.1 has the phone force close that prevents usage. It appears some people experience this while others dont. Could depend on previous rom.
Im in no rush to update. I'll check out the build prop changes. I have root explorer. Although I thought that this was the purpose of the aroma installer.
I have selected the Verizon icon set in G3 Tweaksbox but still see the occasional Roaming icon. Not a big deal. Still works fine.
arctic84 said:
com.android.phone keeps crashing on me.. basically making the phone useless on this rom. Anyone else have this issue? If so.. any luck fixing it?
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I had the same exact issue so I was forced to downgrade to 2.0, and the dev didn't really seem to know how to fix it, although 2.0 is truly great on the VS980. Would be great to be able to run 2.1, although I was able to get it to work as soon as I changed it from global mode to any other mode that started to crash.
arctic84 said:
com.android.phone keeps crashing on me.. basically making the phone useless on this rom. Anyone else have this issue? If so.. any luck fixing it?
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2.1 worked fine for me no issue for two days. You either didn't clean flash, or did something wrong.
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2.1 worked fine for me no issue for two days. You either didn't clean flash, or did something wrong.
Sent from my Vs980 running Validus 4.4.4
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KK baseband - check
full wipe - check
2.1 rom - check
What am i doing wrong?
arctic84 said:
KK baseband - check
full wipe - check
2.1 rom - check
What am i doing wrong?
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You tell me. It works fine.
You restoring system apps and or data?
Using xposed modules?
Flashing a different kernel?
Removing system apps?
Flashing any mods such as status bar with the ROM?
You check md5?
Using twrp 2.8.1?
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JUST A WARNING! if you attempt this i will not be held accountable for any issues. you have been warned!
Long story short, looking for roms to try. i found this while searching http://d-h.st/Ici, [Liquidsmoothv3.0 4.4.2 Kitkat] No camera, not sure on other issues!
I downloaded it and it runs rather well, a few hiccups. it seems to run only on GSM though, but i could be wrong. if needed i could upload a few pictures to thread. however ( i know this is the case with some gb roms with gsm fixes, same with ics and jellybean, as needed with build.prop tweaks) but for the life of me cannot get gsm to activate data, it can receive and make calls, send sms. it doesnt seem to like saving apns, theres a mod called
http://www.internauta37.altervista.org/how-and-patch-fully-enable-gsm-verizon-cdma-phones-android
it lets me save apns, but if i add to many things. the apn doesnt save. but if i out the basic info i need to activate data on any other rom, it doesnt activate at all. if anyone tries this and gets data working. please let me know! goodluck
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JUST A WARNING! if you attempt this i will not be held accountable for any issues. you have been warned!
Long story short, looking for roms to try. i found this while searching http://d-h.st/Ici, [Liquidsmoothv3.0 4.4.2 Kitkat] No camera, not sure on other issues!
I downloaded it and it runs rather well, a few hiccups. it seems to run only on GSM though, but i could be wrong. if needed i could upload a few pictures to thread. however ( i know this is the case with some gb roms with gsm fixes, same with ics and jellybean, as needed with build.prop tweaks) but for the life of me cannot get gsm to activate data, it can receive and make calls, send sms. it doesnt seem to like saving apns, theres a mod called
http://www.internauta37.altervista.org/how-and-patch-fully-enable-gsm-verizon-cdma-phones-android
it lets me save apns, but if i add to many things. the apn doesnt save. but if i out the basic info i need to activate data on any other rom, it doesnt activate at all. if anyone tries this and gets data working. please let me know! goodluck
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There is a thread for that rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674609&page=3
I just added a wifi fix to the rom, I never tried 3g just wifi.
sd_shadow said:
There is a thread for that rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674609&page=3
I just added a wifi fix to the rom, I never tried 3g just wifi.
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Hey mate, i know. im sorry i should have quoted you on that fact, Wifi works really well. I dont suppose you could take a look at the 3g/data. i could help debug it if you need to. as weird as it sounds, its a really smooth rom, no pun intended lol. every other rom i have tried lags :/