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Hello!
I'm currently stationed in Singapore and bought a Moto X about a month or so ago from eBay. While I am anxiously waiting for my Moto X to receive the 4.4 update, I realised that the system version (after the previous camera update) is 139.12.35.ghost_row.AmericaMovil.en.PR, which I found to be a Latin America version after some searching on the forums and Googling here and there.
I also found this thread, where OP said that they can be flashed over to either the T-Mobile version. Does this continue to work for the 4.4 updates by T-Mobile or AT&T, and would there be anything else required for flashing? (I saw something about flashing new radios and all, but was quite confused by contradicting explanations and suggestions :/)
Thanks in advance!
// EDIT:
To add on after a bit of searching, I realised that I am allowed to unlock my bootloader, despite claims from the original retailer on eBay that the phone came from AT&T (which is notorious, even here, for their stance on bootloader unlocking). What gives?
I got the same Moto X from a buddy yesterday. I did a lot of searching and also discovered the thread about the phone being flashed to t- mobile.
I fooled the steps on another thread titled " Return to stock 100%" out something like that...
I downloaded the correct Att firmware and with the use of RSDLite, I successfully flashed my Moto X to ATT.... it took less than 10 minutes. And as soon as it booted up, I got hit with the "update available" message ( kit Kat)
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Thanks for the information!
I've successfully upgraded my phone to the Verizon version (minus all the bloatware that I hastily blasted off), with root and TWRP. So this is what I did, for future reference:
It seems that AmericaMovil versions are not bound by the AT&T's locked bootloader policies, and other Latin America versions are probably free from the restriction too. So I managed to get my hands on the Motorola Fastboot and unlocked my bootloader. TWRP was installed (remember to use 2.6.3.1 and above for 4.4 support), and then flashed the Verizon system dump available here. Root was installed by TWRP.
After getting on the device and setting things up, I rebooted to recovery to remove lots of bloatware (available in /system/app and /system/priv-app). Had to remove some of them through Titanium Backup as the file names were not always indicative that it came from Verizon. I made the extra step of killing the god-awful boot animation that they had by replacing it with this.
And... that concludes my experience with this, I suppose.
I've been looking through a few threads and I am not comfortable enough to flash the T-Mobile rom over my AmericanMovil one yet.
I can't seem to find step by step instructions on how to do this.. Would anyone like to explain it from the ground up?
My understanding
1) unlock bootloader
2) flash a recovery like twrp or cmw
3) flash the rom that is given in the OG post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477180
4) this should now give us the t-mobile version of things and we should be able to do the standard OTA from there?
[Q] So can this all be done without ever having to root the phone?
alternetconcept said:
I've been looking through a few threads and I am not comfortable enough to flash the T-Mobile rom over my AmericanMovil one yet.
I can't seem to find step by step instructions on how to do this.. Would anyone like to explain it from the ground up?
My understanding
1) unlock bootloader
2) flash a recovery like twrp or cmw
3) flash the rom that is given in the OG post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477180
4) this should now give us the t-mobile version of things and we should be able to do the standard OTA from there?
[Q] So can this all be done without ever having to root the phone?
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I'm not too sure whether flashing via TWRP/CMW will allow you to get OTA, unfortunately. Which is why I went straight for the Verizon system dump. But yes, you can change firmware without ever having to root the phone. Heck, I think there's a guide on restoring mentioned by @plmiller0905 below that will allow you to do it without unlocking the bootloader, even.
RagnaParadise said:
I'm not too sure whether flashing via TWRP/CMW will allow you to get OTA, unfortunately. Which is why I went straight for the Verizon system dump. But yes, you can change firmware without ever having to root the phone. Heck, I think there's a guide on restoring mentioned by @plmiller0905 below that will allow you to do it without unlocking the bootloader, even.
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I believe the bootloader does have to be unlocked in order to flash a different firmware.
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RagnaParadise said:
I'm not too sure whether flashing via TWRP/CMW will allow you to get OTA, unfortunately. Which is why I went straight for the Verizon system dump. But yes, you can change firmware without ever having to root the phone. Heck, I think there's a guide on restoring mentioned by @plmiller0905 below that will allow you to do it without unlocking the bootloader, even.
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Yeah after doing so more reading.. (at least the way I'm willing to do it) is to just unlock my bootloader and then using RSD Lite (Which i still have no idea what that is / where it is) flash an SBF found here (http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost_rcica/list.php)
I guess following this video somewhat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr0JHSAXJDI#t=15
Does that sound right?
Should I flash the TMO_RETAIL_XT1053_4.2.2-13.9.0Q2.X-116-X-17-57_MR1_CFC.xml.zip
Or just jump straight to the 4.4 version TMO_RETAIL_XT1053_4.4-13.11.1Q2.X-69-3_MR2_CFC.xml.zip
??
As far as I know, the use of RSD Lite doesn't require an unlocked bootloader (at least, that's what it shows in the video you showed me anyway), especially since these are images supposedly signed by Motorola themselves. Let me know if you've found something else?
As for your question on which to flash... I'm not sure, but you'd skip a lot of the hassle if you could flash 4.4 straight, so how about trying that?
RagnaParadise said:
As far as I know, the use of RSD Lite doesn't require an unlocked bootloader (at least, that's what it shows in the video you showed me anyway), especially since these are images supposedly signed by Motorola themselves. Let me know if you've found something else?
As for your question on which to flash... I'm not sure, but you'd skip a lot of the hassle if you could flash 4.4 straight, so how about trying that?
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Rsdlite is a shell for a flash boot flash supposedly with an XML doing all the steps together. Just makes it easier.
You need unlocked boot loader only to flash an image that doesn't match your current boot loader. So if you have a. At&t phone you can only flash at&t images by rsdlite. But if you unlock your amerimovil phone you can flash any xt1058 image I think. So amerimovil could take say a rogers or at&t or telcel image. Not sure if T-Mobile image will work on a full rsdlite flash as it is an xt1053 image. I think you can flash most of a T-Mobile image by twrp but not by rsdlite not sure
sleepyguy007 said:
Rsdlite is a shell for a flash boot flash supposedly with an XML doing all the steps together. Just makes it easier.
You need unlocked boot loader only to flash an image that doesn't match your current boot loader. So if you have a. At&t phone you can only flash at&t images by rsdlite. But if you unlock your amerimovil phone you can flash any xt1058 image I think. So amerimovil could take say a rogers or at&t or telcel image. Not sure if T-Mobile image will work on a full rsdlite flash as it is an xt1053 image. I think you can flash most of a T-Mobile image by twrp but not by rsdlite not sure
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So if I flash the at&t image found here (http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost_rcica/list.php), would it come pre-loaded with all the bloatware AT&T has even though I'm not using AT&T network?
alternetconcept said:
So if I flash the at&t image found here (http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost_rcica/list.php), would it come pre-loaded with all the bloatware AT&T has even though I'm not using AT&T network?
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yes of course. think about it like if you took a dell windows 7 install CD , and put it on an HP. all the dell customizations would still be there.
obviously since you have unlocked bootloader, once you do the RSDlite you can always flash twrp, and superuser, and delete all that stuff. but then you wouldn't get updates again. i dont think the at&t image is really THAT bad. though i've heard the rogers one is better (though maybe not 4.4 yet)
sleepyguy007 said:
yes of course. think about it like if you took a dell windows 7 install CD , and put it on an HP. all the dell customizations would still be there.
obviously since you have unlocked bootloader, once you do the RSDlite you can always flash twrp, and superuser, and delete all that stuff. but then you wouldn't get updates again. i dont think the at&t image is really THAT bad. though i've heard the rogers one is better (though maybe not 4.4 yet)
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Yeah unfortunately that's what I thought. Hence why I would of liked to flash the t-mobile image but I'm going to hold off until someone that is a bit more adb savvy then myself tries it out. I wouldn't know what to do if I ended up soft bricking my phone
Well it didn't take long to try it out myself...
It worked out!
I used this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
I downloaded the Tmobile 4.4 Image and used RSD.
All you have to do is unlock your BL. (Note: I was completely bone stock with NO root and NO special recovery like CMW or TWRP)
Have all the proper drivers installed, enable USB debugging in developer settings on the phone
Go into Fastboot on the phone
Plug in the phone and just follow the video
I do not take any responsibitliy if you brick your phone. It is fairly easy process and took only a few mins.
Hope this helps!
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alternetconcept said:
I've been looking through a few threads and I am not comfortable enough to flash the T-Mobile rom over my AmericanMovil one yet.
I can't seem to find step by step instructions on how to do this.. Would anyone like to explain it from the ground up?
My understanding
1) unlock bootloader
2) flash a recovery like twrp or cmw
3) flash the rom that is given in the OG post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477180
4) this should now give us the t-mobile version of things and we should be able to do the standard OTA from there?
[Q] So can this all be done without ever having to root the phone?
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I've been doing some research on this since yesterday and I've been hesitant on doing it. I saw in your last post that you successfully flashed the TMO 4.4 ROM on your AmericaMovil phone, so I have a few questions for you before I go ahead and do the same:
1. Can you please confirm that your model is XT1058 and not XT1053?
2. Does the TMO ROM have the TMO boot logo and any TMO bloatware?
3. Does the TMO ROM have the Tethering & portable hotspot option under Settings > More?
4. Does the TMO ROM have the Mass Storage option under Settings > Storage > | > USB computer connection?
5. Have you been having any radio problems since you flashed the TMO ROM?
I wonder if I install the ROM in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477180 using RSDLite, would I get the OTA update to 4.4? The reason I want to install this ROM is because it only flashes system and boot.img without flashing bootloader, modem, logo etc... and I know the XT1058 radio is different from the XT1053 radio, so I've been reluctant to flash a full XT1053 ROM on my XT1058 phone.
But what I also would like to know is if an OTA update would flash a full ROM or not. In other words, if I flash the ROM above and then OTA update to 4.4 and the OTA update flashes the full ROM including the radio, I might as well flash the full 4.4 immediately.
What do you or anyone else think?
I'll answer to the best of my ability. heh
mschumacher69 said:
1. Can you please confirm that your model is XT1058 and not XT1053?
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Mine was an XT1058, and has been flashed to XT1060. (I didn't notice that T-Mo had a 4.4 ROM on the list, so I went straight for the flashable ZIP for Verizon instead. silly me.)
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2. Does the TMO ROM have the TMO boot logo and any TMO bloatware?
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At least according to this article, the TMO version shouldn't have any bloatware.
mschumacher69 said:
4. Does the TMO ROM have the Mass Storage option under Settings > Storage > | > USB computer connection?
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There's no reason why there shouldn't be; I'm seeing it on my Verizon version.
mschumacher69 said:
5. Have you been having any radio problems since you flashed the TMO ROM?
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I can't say for sure if you'll face any problems, but I flashed the T-Mo radio provided here with my Verizon ROM, and I had no problems connecting to my network in Singapore.
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I can't answer the rest unfortunately. Sorry. Hope I've helped.
RagnaParadise said:
I can't answer the rest unfortunately. Sorry. Hope I've helped.
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Thank you for your answers!
Regarding Mass Storage, the reason I'm asking is because I don't have it on my AmericaMovil ROM.
The ROM is basically exactly what you get when you buy the T-Mobile version.
I figured the radios are nearly identical from the AT&T version and the T-Mobile version so my XT1058 is running on the XT1053 radios. There is no bloatware. tethering is there but I'm not sure if t-mobile will allow it. There is NO tmobile logo that comes up on boot. USB connect to computer is there.
As for the radio section again.. I was getting only EDGE in my house before I switched to this ROM (Meaning when I was on the ORIGINAL XT1058 image) and I am still getting only EDGE in my house.. Unfortunately I haven't left my house since yesterday flashing the image but when I'll be back at work in NYC and should see '4G/LTE' over there.
We'll see.
alternetconcept said:
The ROM is basically exactly what you get when you buy the T-Mobile version.
I figured the radios are nearly identical from the AT&T version and the T-Mobile version so my XT1058 is running on the XT1053 radios. There is no bloatware. tethering is there but I'm not sure if t-mobile will allow it. There is NO tmobile logo that comes up on boot. USB connect to computer is there.
As for the radio section again.. I was getting only EDGE in my house before I switched to this ROM (Meaning when I was on the ORIGINAL XT1058 image) and I am still getting only EDGE in my house.. Unfortunately I haven't left my house since yesterday flashing the image but when I'll be back at work in NYC and should see '4G/LTE' over there.
We'll see.
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Thanks for ur reply! Which network are you on right now?
mschumacher69 said:
Thanks for ur reply! Which network are you on right now?
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I've always been on T-mobile network. Both when i was on original XT1058 AmericanMovil system version and still on T-mobile when I switched the image to XT1053.
Back on my Nexus 4 though.. I would have HSPA+ in my house.. So I thought it was a bit odd that as soon as I received this phone that I wasn't getting anything other than EDGE..
I purchased it in Aurora, CO from a buddy that said he was using it on T-Mobile.
Everything works great even the LTE on T-Mobile, but from what I read the XT1058 was AT&T's variant of the Moto X and wasnt supposed to support the T-Mobile LTE bands.
I did a little research & found out that it is not a AT&T branded XT1058 and is actually from another country.
After checking the Moto X wiki i came to the conclusion that its the XT1058 model from TIM Brazil
I used it the whole day and noticed an app called "BR Apps" that had a brazil flag in the icon that i just can't uninstall. I can disable it but i want it gone.
I want to root this phone and fiddle with it, but don't know what will work with it.
The bootloader is locked and not sure if it is safe for me to start trying to root this thing.
My biggest question is if it is safe to root this XT1058 the same way as the AT&T or other carrier moto x?
Heres some more info on it.
"Android Version"
4.4.2
"Baseband Version"
MSM8960PRO_BP-2323.031.111.00R
"System Version"
161.44.26.ghost_row.TIM.en.BR
"Build number"
KXA20.16-1.26
tKoHaXoR said:
I purchased it in Aurora, CO from a buddy that said he was using it on T-Mobile.
Everything works great even the LTE on T-Mobile, but from what I read the XT1058 was AT&T's variant of the Moto X and wasnt supposed to support the T-Mobile LTE bands.
I did a little research & found out that it is not a AT&T branded XT1058 and is actually from another country.
After checking the Moto X wiki i came to the conclusion that its the XT1058 model from TIM Brazil
I used it the whole day and noticed an app called "BR Apps" that had a brazil flag in the icon that i just can't uninstall. I can disable it but i want it gone.
I want to root this phone and fiddle with it, but don't know what will work with it.
The bootloader is locked and not sure if it is safe for me to start trying to root this thing.
My biggest question is if it is safe to root this XT1058 the same way as the AT&T or other carrier moto x?
Heres some more info on it.
"Android Version"
4.4.2
"Baseband Version"
MSM8960PRO_BP-2323.031.111.00R
"System Version"
161.44.26.ghost_row.TIM.en.BR
"Build number"
KXA20.16-1.26
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The AT&T Moto X (and ALL the XT1058 variants) DOES support all the LTE bands that T-Mobile uses. It does NOT support the AWS band which T-Mobile uses for HSPA/HSPA+
All of the XT1058 variants have the same frequency bands....otherwise the FCC would require a different FCC ID.
Anyways, its GREAT that you have a non-U.S. XT1058, because you SHOULD be able to unlock the bootloader from Motos website!!! (AT&T XT1058s can NOT be unlocked through Moto....AT&T won't allow them to give out the unlock codes for the AT&T variants)
If you want root, unlock your bootloader and flash TWRP (which will root the device). Then you're all set! No crazy exploits needed......and you'll be safe with future versions because you won't be using a root 'exploit' that can be patched.
Unlock here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Make sense?
Makes perfect sense. I upgraded from a t-mobile galaxy s3 that was easier to root because of odin software and wasn't 100% sure where I would even start rooting this moto. You pretty much cleared everything up for me. This xt1058 is one of the good ones is what you are saying and its boot loader is ublockable. As far as baseband it should remain the same? Can I flash xt1058/xt1053 ROMs without running into weird issues or should I treat this device like any other US version?
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tKoHaXoR said:
Makes perfect sense. I upgraded from a t-mobile galaxy s3 that was easier to root because of odin software and wasn't 100% sure where I would even start rooting this moto. You pretty much cleared everything up for me. This xt1058 is one of the good ones is what you are saying and its boot loader is ublockable. As far as baseband it should remain the same? Can I flash xt1058/xt1053 ROMs without running into weird issues or should I treat this device like any other US version?
Sent from my XT1058 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Yep, pretty much. One of the 'good' ones
It *should* be bootloader unlockable. You will have to try the moto website I linked to see for sure.
You can flash any XT1058 rom safely....the Rogers Canada version seems to be a favorite around here. Some users have reported flashing the XT1053 rom without any issues as well. The XT1058 has 2 additional LTE bands over and above the 1053, and we aren't sure if you 'lose' these bands by flashing the 1053 rom though. This really isn't an issue though, because those 2 LTE bands aren't even used in the U.S. right now.
Do not flash one of the CDMA (verizon, sprint, etc) roms though...
If you flash a different carrier rom you should flash the entire rom (baseband and all). Its not recommended to mix different roms and basebands....and of course you HAVE to be bootloader unlocked -before- you can flash another carrier's rom
samwathegreat said:
Yep, pretty much. One of the 'good' ones
It *should* be bootloader unlockable. You will have to try the moto website I linked to see for sure.
You can flash any XT1058 rom safely....the Rogers Canada version seems to be a favorite around here. Some users have reported flashing the XT1053 rom without any issues as well. The XT1058 has 2 additional LTE bands over and above the 1053, and we aren't sure if you 'lose' these bands by flashing the 1053 rom though. This really isn't an issue though, because those 2 LTE bands aren't even used in the U.S. right now.
Do not flash one of the CDMA (verizon, sprint, etc) roms though...
If you flash a different carrier rom you should flash the entire rom (baseband and all). Its not recommended to mix different roms and basebands....and of course you HAVE to be bootloader unlocked -before- you can flash another carrier's rom
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Dude thanks a ton! I went to the regular moto website to try and unlock the bootloader but it was a no go. Then i went thru the brazilian site and it worked! Got the booloader unlocked and will flash my first rom in a matter of minutes.
tKoHaXoR said:
Dude thanks a ton! I went to the regular moto website to try and unlock the bootloader but it was a no go. Then i went thru the brazilian site and it worked! Got the booloader unlocked and will flash my first rom in a matter of minutes.
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Great! If you get an error when flashing to a different carrier rom, let me know and I'll help you get past it.
Also, if you are planning on flashing the 1053 ROM and updating to 4.4.3, you will need to use a new version of TWRP and SuperSU. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...unlocked-twrp-2-6-3-1-android-t2534850/page48
samwathegreat said:
Great! If you get an error when flashing to a different carrier rom, let me know and I'll help you get past it.
Also, if you are planning on flashing the 1053 ROM and updating to 4.4.3, you will need to use a new version of TWRP and SuperSU. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...unlocked-twrp-2-6-3-1-android-t2534850/page48
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Just flashed the 2.7.0.0 TWRP recovery and installed SuperSu, did a TWRP backup of my system and flashing the T-Mobile stock 4.4.3 Rom from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-flashable-t-mobile-t2773675
Hope all goes well!
EDIT: ALL WENT WELL. Brazil XT1058 Bootloader unlocked, TWRP 2.7.0.0, flashed with XT1053 4.4.3 rooted rom! samwathegreat you are the man!
Hi guys,
I live in Brazil and got a Moto X for my wife, I love it, now considering buy another for myself
She has same version as @tKoHaXoR:
Android Version: 4.4.2
Baseband version: MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.031.111.00R
System version: 161.44.26.ghost_row.TIM.en.BR
Kernel version: 3.4.42-g7a3369f
Build number: KXA20.16-1.26
I'd like to get root and keep the stock ROM, at least for now I won't mess with custom ROMs on it.
My questions:
- once I unlock bootloader and root, I won't get OTA anymore?
- seems 4.4.4 stock is not out for it yet, when it comes I will be able to flash even if I don't get it from OTA?
Sorry it's hard to feel like a noob again, when I did everything possible and flashed dozens of ROMs on my old Galaxy S2
Noed said:
Hi guys,
I live in Brazil and got a Moto X for my wife, I love it, now considering buy another for myself
She has same version as @tKoHaXoR:
Android Version: 4.4.2
Baseband version: MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.031.111.00R
System version: 161.44.26.ghost_row.TIM.en.BR
Kernel version: 3.4.42-g7a3369f
Build number: KXA20.16-1.26
I'd like to get root and keep the stock ROM, at least for now I won't mess with custom ROMs on it.
My questions:
- once I unlock bootloader and root, I won't get OTA anymore?
- seems 4.4.4 stock is not out for it yet, when it comes I will be able to flash even if I don't get it from OTA?
Sorry it's hard to feel like a noob again, when I did everything possible and flashed dozens of ROMs on my old Galaxy S2
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I'm not 100% sure if it will still get OTA, but most likely you will get a notification on your phone that the update is available. The thing is you will most likely lose root if you accept the OTA update.
I recommend just rooting and installing custom recovery for now and once the update does roll out come back to XDA and look for the rooted 4.4.4 rom and flash it to your device.
Thanks @tKoHaXoR, I unlocked the bootloader yesterday, after messing up a little it's working ok.
Not working great yet, I tried to "integrate updates into system" using Titanium and now "modality services" and "active display" are force closing after boot.
Now trying to find a stock based ROM, it would be nice to have one CWM flashable and deodexed...
Which one did you install?
So, as I understand, there's 2 main types of Moto X: CDMA and GSM
And this XT1058 runs GSM ROMS, so the one from XT1053 should work.
Noed said:
...I'd like to get root and keep the stock ROM, at least for now I won't mess with custom ROMs on it.
My questions:
- once I unlock bootloader and root, I won't get OTA anymore?
- seems 4.4.4 stock is not out for it yet, when it comes I will be able to flash even if I don't get it from OTA?
Sorry it's hard to feel like a noob again, when I did everything possible and flashed dozens of ROMs on my old Galaxy S2
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Once you unlock the bootloader, and root, you'll still get OTA Updates when the phone's carrier pushes them.
As long as you are stock, and haven't modified too much, you can flash the OTA's. You can be rooted. (for more see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-OTA.html )
You can always use RSDLite or mFastboot to flash if the SBF (rom) for your phone/carrier gets leaked and put on http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 (this site is neither owned, maintained, nor operated by Motorola). They don't have the OTA update files, just the full rom. Based on you earlier posting System version: 161.44.26.ghost_row.TIM.en.BR You have an XT1058 from TIM Brazil.
If you haven't received the OTA yet, but are stock (including stock recovery) and someone shares the OTA zip file for your phone and its carrier, you can manually install it.
Noed said:
Thanks @tKoHaXoR, I unlocked the bootloader yesterday, after messing up a little it's working ok.
Not working great yet, I tried to "integrate updates into system" using Titanium and now "modality services" and "active display" are force closing after boot.
Now trying to find a stock based ROM, it would be nice to have one CWM flashable and deodexed...
Which one did you install?
So, as I understand, there's 2 main types of Moto X: CDMA and GSM
And this XT1058 runs GSM ROMS, so the one from XT1053 should work.
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Kind of, but not exactly...
We usually don't recommend flashing the ROM from one model/carrier onto another (like flashing an ATT XT1058 with a T-MObile XT1053) because there are risks something could go wrong. That doesn't mean you can't, just means there is a chance you could mess your phone up either in flashing the other rom, or when you try and flash back to stock.
If you are looking for 3rd party or "after market" roms, like CM or such, then yes, usually they don't include modems and such, making them somewhat model independent. (SO you could flash the same CM ROM for GSM on an XT1052, XT1053, XT1058, etc.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773675
[ROM][4.4.3]Stock Flashable of the T-Mobile
That is the one you will want to flash
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Thanks again for the help, I flashed this one and worked great:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...0-google-play-edition-4-t2715488/post54328873
I read that the Cricket Galaxy S5 (G900AZ) is a rebranded AT&T S5 (G900A). Has anyone tried ODIN flashing the stock AT&T rom on the Cricket model?
For instance, i have read people flashing the Tmobile S5 stock rom on the MetroPCS version and it works fine even though the model numbers are slightly different. It changes the phone into the Tmobile version.
spydc said:
I read that the Cricket Galaxy S5 (G900AZ) is a rebranded AT&T S5 (G900A). Has anyone tried ODIN flashing the stock AT&T rom on the Cricket model?
For instance, i have read people flashing the Tmobile S5 stock rom on the MetroPCS version and it works fine even though the model numbers are slightly different. It changes the phone into the Tmobile version.
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Did you ever get an answer to this?
NO, but....
The Cricket S5 is indeed a rebranded AT&T model. I have both of those models including a LA G900M (TTT.) Major difference is nowhere near as much bloatware, and most importantly an unlocked bootloader. The only advantage would be upgrading to MM if you want stock, since the January update still has it on LP. You're better off trying a LA stock ROM though (I say this because they use the same custom recovery) But cutom ROM's can take you there as far as 7.1 Nougat right now.
I just recently rooted my Cricket model with CF Auto-root (klteaio), flashed the latest TWRP (klte) recovery and installed Xposed Framework (by dkcldark... wanam custom won't work.) Had a little of lag first couple of days, but I guess that's to be expected. Hope this helps in some way.
gello924 said:
The Cricket S5 is indeed a rebranded AT&T model. I have both of those models including a LA G900M (TTT.) Major difference is nowhere near as much bloatware, and most importantly an unlocked bootloader. The only advantage would be upgrading to MM if you want stock, since the January update still has it on LP. You're better off trying a LA stock ROM though (I say this because they use the same custom recovery) But cutom ROM's can take you there as far as 7.1 Nougat right now.
I just recently rooted my Cricket model with CF Auto-root (klteaio), flashed the latest TWRP (klte) recovery and installed Xposed Framework (by dkcldark... wanam custom won't work.) Had a little of lag first couple of days, but I guess that's to be expected. Hope this helps in some way.
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Wait, it has an unlocked bootloader on the rebranded G900A?
Vesnyx said:
Wait, it has an unlocked bootloader on the rebranded G900A?
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This gives me an idea.... What if we use flashfire to flash G900AZ firmware on the G900A (including the UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER)
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AptLogic said:
This gives me an idea.... What if we use flashfire to flash G900AZ firmware on the G900A (including the UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER)
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You could always try it. I don't know exactly how well it will work.
You would have to be rooted FIRST on the G900A in order for FlashFire to work. If i remember correctly anything already on LP can't be rooted or downgraded back to KK.
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Y'know what would be really nice???: Seeing that android updates are only good for 2yrs on a particular model after its initial released, and the given the fact that most carries plans are only 2yrs; wouldn't it be nice if (for sake of argument in THIS thread) AT&T would release a firmware for their phones, that would unlock the bootloader and possibly SIM unlock the phone as well. I mean after 2yrs the device is paid for and quite frankly no longer belongs to them. I hate the idea of being forced to either get a new device once my plan has expired or use MY phone with the carrier its branded under. Of course it probably has everything to with them making their money from those of us who can't do without having a new device every year.
So I can pull a copy of the G900AZ engineering firmware I found, but I doubt we'll be able to flash it. What is was thinking is that we use beaups CID changer to make our device into one similar to the cricket wireless one. Since it is essentially a dev edition of our phone.
You cant just flash a unlocked bootloader to a locked bootloader phone. A specific explout must be developed to defeat the bootloader. Simply shashing over it will never work.
The G900AZ is just a rebranded version of the G900A though. I don't think there are any glaring differences like there would be from G900T to G900A. If the aboot does flash then it would be a simple unlock.
@NavSad @AptLogic
If you wanna try this, here's a link to their firmwares:
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G900AZ/
You'd most likely need to extract the correct files and be on the correct versions before flashing these.
Apparently, something similar happened with the T-Mobile Galaxy S6, where the MetroPCS firmware was flashed on the T-mobile firmware.
Vesnyx said:
The G900AZ is just a rebranded version of the G900A though. I don't think there are any glaring differences like there would be from G900T to G900A. If the aboot does flash then it would be a simple unlock.
@NavSad @AptLogic
If you wanna try this, here's a link to their firmwares:
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G900AZ/
You'd most likely need to extract the correct files and be on the correct versions before flashing these.
Apparently, something similar happened with the T-Mobile Galaxy S6, where the MetroPCS firmware was flashed on the T-mobile firmware.
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I tried ODINing the G900AZTUU3BOG3 firmware, and it immediately returned a SECURE CHECK FAIL: aboot
I'll try using FlashFireon it tomorrow during my batch of tests.
AptLogic said:
I tried ODINing the G900AZTUU3BOG3 firmware, and it immediately returned a SECURE CHECK FAIL: aboot
I'll try using FlashFireon it tomorrow during my batch of tests.
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Just so I can get an idea of what everyone's fuse values are, do you mind telling me what you see after RP SWREV in Download Mode.
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Just so I can get an idea of what everyone's fuse values are, do you mind telling me what you see after RP SWREV in Download Mode.
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Mine are S1, T1, R1, A2, P1. I'm on Lollipop 5.0 with with ability to downgrade to NCE.
Also @AptLogic, maybe try through stock recovery, just as a precautionary measure.
P l e a s e do not try this
So I tried using FlashFire to flash the G900AZ firmware and I HARD BRICKED MY PHONE.
If anyone wants to give me advice on how to unbrick it PLEASE DO because I have to put all my development on hold indefinitely until I can unbrick it or buy a new one (which isn't likely because I don't have the cash for that right now).
AptLogic said:
So I tried using FlashFire to flash the G900AZ firmware and I HARD BRICKED MY PHONE.
If anyone wants to give me advice on how to unbrick it PLEASE DO because I have to put all my development on hold indefinitely until I can unbrick it or buy a new one (which isn't likely because I don't have the cash for that right now).
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Try using a debrick image.
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Try using a debrick image.
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I can't get the phone to boot, not even into Download Mode
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I can't get the phone to boot, not even into Download Mode
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Does it show up as qualcomm qhusb hulk when connected to your pc in device manager?
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Does it show up as qualcomm qhusb hulk when connected to your pc in device manager?
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I took the battery out of the phone and hooked it up to my computer and its showing up as "RELINK HS-USB QDLoader 9008 (COM14)" in device manager
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I took the battery out of the phone and hooked it up to my computer and its showing up as "RELINK HS-USB QDLoader 9008 (COM14)" in device manager
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I would try this method:
Grab a sdcard
Grab a debrick image here:https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767140194
Then put the sdcard in your computer and use Win32 DiskImager to write to the sdcard. After that, put the sdcard in your phone and boot into Download Mode.
If your phone isn't fixable using this method you'd have to try JTAG.
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I would try this method:
Grab a sdcard
Grab a debrick image here:UPLOADING
Then put the sdcard in your computer and use Win32 DiskImager to write to the sdcard. After that, put the sdcard in your phone and boot into Download Mode.
If your phone isn't fixable using this method you'd have to try JTAG.
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Is the debrick image just the first 200MB of the phone's data?
Hello!
I've done some reading and having not gotten a satisfactory answer I thought I'd throw my question out to the community.
I'm currently running Twisted Lollipop v7.
I can Odin back to stock 4.4.2 whenever and redo towelroot and install safestrap etc.
I've been unsuccessful at flashing an AOSP rom and wanted to confirm once and for all if it is truly impossible to flash Blisspop or Cyanogenmod or Sonic or any of those I enjoyed on my trusty old S3 onto my unlocked At&T S5 Active.
If it is not possible I will get rid of this unlocked AT&T S5 active and get a used what? The T-mobile variant? The international variant? I just want to be able to flash whatever the hell I want without too much hassle! I do like the phone other than that though!
Looking forward to any advice!
Thanks!
Edbogue
edbogue said:
Hello!
I've done some reading and having not gotten a satisfactory answer I thought I'd throw my question out to the community.
I'm currently running Twisted Lollipop v7.
I can Odin back to stock 4.4.2 whenever and redo towelroot and install safestrap etc.
I've been unsuccessful at flashing an AOSP rom and wanted to confirm once and for all if it is truly impossible to flash Blisspop or Cyanogenmod or Sonic or any of those I enjoyed on my trusty old S3 onto my unlocked At&T S5 Active.
If it is not possible I will get rid of this unlocked AT&T S5 active and get a used what? The T-mobile variant? The international variant? I just want to be able to flash whatever the hell I want without too much hassle! I do like the phone other than that though!
Looking forward to any advice!
Thanks!
Edbogue
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No you can not flash any AOSP roms on a device that runs safestrap, the bootloader isnt unlocked so you cant install a custom recovery the closest thing to a recovery is safestrap, and with a locked bootloader you can not install kernels which is why you cant install AOSP based roms.
mcmellens said:
No you can not flash any AOSP roms on a device that runs safestrap, the bootloader isnt unlocked so you cant install a custom recovery the closest thing to a recovery is safestrap, and with a locked bootloader you can not install kernels which is why you cant install AOSP based roms.
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Thank you for your response!
Blues! It's what I suspected. I intend to offload this phone as a result and get another. Which variant would you recommend I get so I can flash happily and not worry about a locked bootloader? The SM-G900F, or what else would you recommend?
Thanks for your help!
Edbogue
edbogue said:
Thank you for your response!
Blues! It's what I suspected. I intend to offload this phone as a result and get another. Which variant would you recommend I get so I can flash happily and not worry about a locked bootloader? The SM-G900F, or what else would you recommend?
Thanks for your help!
Edbogue
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Any phone that has a carrier would be locked for the most part, i know sprint and maybe t-mobile usually don't lock there bootloaders, but that doesn't mean anything they could still be locked down. Your best bet if your looking to get a new phone for whatever reason stick with the ones straight from samsung the international versions. they usually don't have locked bootloaders.
Hello, I currently have a few Samsungs (old, S3), and they are all rooted (I am familiar with rooting, firmware loading via Odin, TWRP/CWM, etc). I have read a large number of posts on how the Galaxy S5 after 5.X is boot loader locked. I was gifted with a AT&T Samsung Galaxy S5, with the Sim unlock code (and I would like to use it), however, it has been updated to G900AUCS4CPA2. To add insult to injury, I am on T-Mobile.
Forum posts have indicated that the only requirement to move to T-Mobile is to change the sim. However, it would be nice to use the wifi calling, etc (or at least a T-Mobile rom). Even though the bootloader is locked, is there a way to install a Tmobile S5 5.X or 6.X rom? It seems like installing different AT&T roms via Odin is possible, as long as they are >=5.X. Is there a way to install a T-Mobile rom via Odin?
Barring all of that, is there a way to install a totally generic rom, and not be AT&T branded/bloated/etc?
Thank you.
No. The locked bootloader prevents all of that.
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No. The locked bootloader prevents all of that.
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Ok, but it came with 6.0 and I downgraded to PA2. So there is no way to install anything else?
Backstory: I initially tried and failed to install 4.4.2, and with more reading realized that I was on the "bootloader locked" 6.0, and that I had thrashed the current rom that was installed. I then found an XDA post on moving back to 6.0, but it starts with PA2, which installed successfully and the phone is on PA2 (the rom I posted in the beginning of the thread). So, I can seemingly install AT&T roms, as long as they are 5.0+?? I just can not move anywhere else??
Thank you for your input.