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What is the past of least resistance to root a 4.4 tmo X? In order to keep data, is it still that insanely long process?
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WIth the T-Mobile variant you have two choices to root..
1. Unlock bootloader, flash twrp recovery, boot into twrp and install SU (or use TWRP's option to root). But this voids your warranty (since you don't have the developer edition), and unlocking the boot loader will wipe your device and data.
2. Use SlapMyMoto which has a lot of manual steps, and you need to reboot to "recovery" (well its modified and you don't have recovery), when you want R/W ability. (Or you have to also do the MotoWpNoMo process to gain R/W full time). But this has many steps.

KidJoe said:
WIth the T-Mobile variant you have two choices to root..
1. Unlock bootloader, flash twrp recovery, boot into twrp and install SU (or use TWRP's option to root). But this voids your warranty (since you don't have the developer edition), and unlocking the boot loader will wipe your device and data.
2. Use SlapMyMoto which has a lot of manual steps, and you need to reboot to "recovery" (well its modified and you don't have recovery), when you want R/W ability. (Or you have to also do the MotoWpNoMo process to gain R/W full time). But this has many steps.
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thanks - re #1, will upgrades be painful i.e., new OTAs?

km8j said:
thanks - re #1, will upgrades be painful i.e., new OTAs?
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OTA's will be more painful with #2 as there will be more to restore to stock. And of course the unknowns of if the new OTA will be rootable or not, and how long before a root process comes out.
For #1, you should be able to just put stock recovery back and take the OTA, then reflash TWRP and re-root.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556400
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Just following up. There is still no easy root method right?
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km8j said:
Just following up. There is still no easy root method right?
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Can't be any easier than unlocking your bootloader ,flash recovery and install superuser. 3 simple steps from my perspective
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flashallthetime said:
Can't be any easier than unlocking your bootloader ,flash recovery and install superuser. 3 simple steps from my perspective
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Unless u have Dev. Edition u cannot unlock boot loader.. I'm on 4.4 and I am fully rooted.
Slapped my Moto

xpsychox said:
Unless u have Dev. Edition u cannot unlock boot loader.. I'm on 4.4 and I am fully rooted.
Slapped my Moto
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You can unlock the Sprint & Tmo version. No dev edition required.
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Same with Rogers, only versions that can't unlock are Verizon and AT&T consumer version
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quickstang said:
You can unlock the Sprint & Tmo version. No dev edition required.
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I knew u couldn't do on at and Verizon...but he also never said what he had..not that I saw
Slapped my Moto

and what if you have the T-Mobile Moto X, haven't got the email to unlock bootloader and you can't get adb to recognize device?

DanRo80 said:
and what if you have the T-Mobile Moto X, haven't got the email to unlock bootloader and you can't get adb to recognize device?
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There was another thread about this... Guy said he used a new gmail account and got email
Slapped my Moto

Just bumping to see if there are any new reasonable ways of rooting kitkat?
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km8j said:
Just bumping to see if there are any new reasonable ways of rooting kitkat?
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Well, if you don't have an unlocked bootloader, SlapMyMoto (which now incorporates the MotoWpNoMo process into its steps) is the only way (there have been some efforts to consolidate/automate the process). And may not be usable if you're already on 4.4.2 (taking the 4.4.2 OTA update or flashing the full 4.4.2 SBF prevents you from flashing older ROMs which is a crucial step in using SlapMyMoto).
I've not see a 4.4.2 specific root process for locked bootloaders yet, but to be honest, I have a unlocked bootloader, so I haven't been completely paying attention.
If you have an unlocked bootloader, root process is still the same.

there is not going to be any new way to root 4.4 is not going to get a new exploit because 4.4.2 is out and Devs are working on finding a way to root it so the people with locked bootloaders can update.
if you want to root your device you have allready been giving the only 2 ways to do it
Locked bootloader - SlapMyMoto
Unlocked bootloader - Customer Recovery and SUPERSU
please dont bump your thread for info you allready have.
here is a link to both guides for both methods and a guide for unlocking your bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358

[Q] T-Mobile/Unlocked GSM Moto X Root

Okay, got a strange question here. I plan on going from the N5 to the unlocked GSM MotoMaker Moto X version. All I want is root with stock recovery (don't really care for a custom recovery, plus I'd like to still receive OTAs). Can I unlock the Moto X bootloader, load TWRP recovery (instead of flash), and then install SuperSU? Or do I *have* to flash TWRP to achieve root?

correct me if im wrong, but I think you can "unlock the Moto X bootloader, load TWRP recovery (instead of flash), and then install SuperSU".
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use one of the methods in the original android development section to achieve root.

c19932 said:
correct me if im wrong, but I think you can "unlock the Moto X bootloader, load TWRP recovery (instead of flash), and then install SuperSU".
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use one of the methods in the original android development section to achieve root.
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Yes, I've looked at those threads. However, in 4.4, a backdoor needs to be introduced in order to maintain root. I'd rather not have to do that and I don't mind unlocking bootloaders. This will be my first, non-Nexus device in awhile, so I just wanted to make sure I can just unlocked the bootloader, load a custom recovery, flash SuperSU and then just have root.

TheCuban said:
Yes, I've looked at those threads. However, in 4.4, a backdoor needs to be introduced in order to maintain root. I'd rather not have to do that and I don't mind unlocking bootloaders. This will be my first, non-Nexus device in awhile, so I just wanted to make sure I can just unlocked the bootloader, load a custom recovery, flash SuperSU and then just have root.
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Just unlock your boot loader, flash twrp recovery and finally flash supersu and you're good to go. Ota's can not be accepted and flashed with root or custom recovery on the moto
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flashallthetime said:
Just unlock your boot loader, flash twrp recovery and finally flash supersu and you're good to go. Ota's can not be accepted and flashed with root or custom recovery on the moto
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Thanks! That's what I thought! I didn't know that root removed the ability to accept OTAs?

TheCuban said:
Thanks! That's what I thought! I didn't know that root removed the ability to accept OTAs?
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On the moto yes, nexus devices are a different beast
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Hi I am planing my first root and I am honestly a little confused. I am on TMobile with 4.4 KitKat (Moto X).
I understand how to unlock the Bootloader and that I need to install TWRP before I can activate SU.
I am just not sure about the bugs (if any) with TWRP and what version to use.
The reason for my concern is on the TWRP website the Moto X is not listed as a supported device.
Is this video Tutorial still valid - is this how to do it with 4.4 KitKat?
And is this the latest version that works (what are the known bugs)?

[Q] Rooting factory unlocked Moto X

So I've just ordered an unlocked black 16gb Moto X from Amazon and would like to update it to 4.4.2 and get root access. I know there are a few guides and threads around but am confused as to which variant I'll have as all the guides seem to be carrier specific, and whether my bootloader will be unlocked or not...
Also, I think it'll come with 4.2.2. Should I go ahead and do the 4.4.2 OTA update, or will that make rooting more difficult? Can I root first then update?
I'm not entirely clueless about this kind of thing, having successfully rooted and installed custom firmware on previous android phones but this seems a little more complicated.
Any help much appreciated. Thanks!

If it's an unlockable bootloader, just take all the updates, unlock the bootloader, mfastboot your choice of recovery, boot immediately to recovery and root. Done.

Since its not a developer edition, unlocking your bootloader will void your warranty. You can request the unlock code directly from Moto's web site for free.
To root after your bootloader is unlocked, just follow this -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
Once you get the code from Moto, you can unlock the bootloader at any point, no matter what rom is on your phone. But you might as well either take the OTA update or flash the 4.4.2 SBF to get to 4.4.2 on your phone, then unlock the bootloader and root. (unlocking the bootloader does factory reset the phone, and erases data and apps, so don't go nuts customizing the phone or installing apps until after you unlock the bootloader).

Thanks for the replies.
How do I find out if my bootloader is unlockable? The Motorola site says that Sprint, USC and TMO phones can be done but nothing about factory unlocked ones...
What if the boitloader can't be unlocked?

seebasso said:
Thanks for the replies.
How do I find out if my bootloader is unlockable? The Motorola site says that Sprint, USC and TMO phones can be done but nothing about factory unlocked ones...
What if the boitloader can't be unlocked?
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The SIM unlocked version can be bootloader unlocked.
Follow the instructions and steps to request the code at -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth once you hit the final submit button, your warranty will be voided.

Awesome thanks, not as complicated as I had anticipated then...
And once I'm on 4.4.2 and rooted, I won't be able to Do any future OTA updates without losing root right?

seebasso said:
Awesome thanks, not as complicated as I had anticipated then...
And once I'm on 4.4.2 and rooted, I won't be able to Do any future OTA updates without losing root right?
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Wrong. Rather than my re-typing... see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-OTA.html

[Q] Fastboot failure help needed

I am running a Verizon Moto X still on 4.2.2. I am rooted. This is NOT the Dev edition. I have plenty of experience with rooting/flashing these phones so back when I first got it the directions on rooting/flashing roms was VERY vague. No one specified you needed the Dev edition to unlock the boot loader. Well I think this came from at one point when I tried to flash TWRP (maybe). Either way, I want to take the OTA update and cannot. Does anyone know how to fix this without doing the RSD, reflash stock method? Here is a picture of what it looks like (thanks for your help in advance):

You should check out the 'Chinese Middleman' thread. If you get the bootloader unlocked you should be able to fix anything.

I can't unlock the bootloader since this is not a Dev edition. Unless something has changed, I'll check it.

You should be able to unlock the boot loader but will not have warranty.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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shamelin73 said:
You should be able to unlock the boot loader but will not have warranty.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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Even though it's not a Dev edition?

Yes you should be able too.
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danman421 said:
Even though it's not a Dev edition?
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All XT1053s can be unlocked, yes. Additionally, if you follow my advice, you don't NEED to unlock. If one of the commands fails, simply skip to the next as I previously advised, and TRY flashing with RSD Lite after you have run the commands I listed.
If you want to check and make sure fastboot is working, type:
fastboot devices
if you see your phone and it's serial number listed, you fastboot IS properly communicating with your phone.
You do not need to unlock your BL to do any of this...but if you are interested in ROOTING, you will need to.

All I really want to do is make it so my phone can take the update and any future updates. What do you mean as you previously stated?

shamelin73 said:
You should be able to unlock the boot loader but will not have warranty.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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I tried this as I did before and I get "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking". All I need to know is how to fix this from someone.

danman421 said:
All I really want to do is make it so my phone can take the update and any future updates. What do you mean as you previously stated?
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I confused you with a member I had helped previously - sorry. Please disregard the "previously stated" comment.
danman421 said:
I tried this as I did before and I get "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking". All I need to know is how to fix this from someone.
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It does NOT require unlocking the bootloader to flash your carrier's correct ROM. Simply follow the instructions in the "Return to 100% Stock" thread to flash the XT1053 ROM, and you'll be able to take all future updates.
If you DO unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery, and root your device, you will have to un-do any modifications made before EVERY OTA. If you don't care about root, don't worry about unlocking.
Additionally, if you DO want to unlock, you could try a different browser and make sure you are inputting the unlock data correctly. It is recommended that you copy the unlock data from the command prompt to notepad, remove all spaces and bootloader messages (you ONLY want the code - as one complete string), then copy from notepad into the Unlock website.
And finally, keep in mind that unless you unlock your BL, you will not be able to root and disable write-protect once you update to the latest version.
The real problem here is that you use an "Exploit" to root your device previously. Now you need to return to full stock to restore your partitions to their factory state.
Simply follow the instructions in the Return to stock thread (in general sub-forum), and be sure to flash the LATEST version for your carrier. It should be 4.4.3.
Good Luck.

samwathegreat said:
I confused you with a member I had helped previously - sorry. Please disregard the "previously stated" comment.
It does NOT require unlocking the bootloader to flash your carrier's correct ROM. Simply follow the instructions in the "Return to 100% Stock" thread to flash the XT1053 ROM, and you'll be able to take all future updates.
If you DO unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery, and root your device, you will have to un-do any modifications made before EVERY OTA. If you don't care about root, don't worry about unlocking.
Additionally, if you DO want to unlock, you could try a different browser and make sure you are inputting the unlock data correctly. It is recommended that you copy the unlock data from the command prompt to notepad, remove all spaces and bootloader messages (you ONLY want the code - as one complete string), then copy from notepad into the Unlock website.
And finally, keep in mind that unless you unlock your BL, you will not be able to root and disable write-protect once you update to the latest version.
The real problem here is that you use an "Exploit" to root your device previously. Now you need to return to full stock to restore your partitions to their factory state.
Simply follow the instructions in the Return to stock thread (in general sub-forum), and be sure to flash the LATEST version for your carrier. It should be 4.4.3.
Good Luck.
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So if I am reading this correctly, there is no way to keep all of my data and take the update?

danman421 said:
So if I am reading this correctly, there is no way to keep all of my data and take the update?
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You can attempt to, by either editing the XML in the SBF and removing the line that says "erase userdata", or by skipping the erase userdata if you use the manual method, but either way CAN mess everything up.
You used an EXPLOIT previously. Any time you use an exploit, you should -expect- to have to wipe everything and re-install from scratch if you want to get back to stock in order to be able to take updates. Keep this in mind if you use any exploits in the future.

Hi! This hasn't seemed to spelled out yet..... But many Moto x's can be unlocked, not just dev editions. However, you stated in the opening post that you have a Verizon Non dev, which can not be unlocked. Only way is to pay the "China middleman" (See thread in general with that name).
And personally.... I would stay on 4.2.2 and do the Slapmymoto method to get root and write protection disabled. That is the best root scenario, aside from unlocking the bootloader.
If you update to 4.4.2 or higher, you will have write protection enabled always, and no root, or sorta root with towelroot and pie. But that will limit what you can do.
See the How do I root my phone sticky thread in general for your options.

I should have posted earlier. I ran RSDLite and put the newest version on. I am unrooted. My Moto X is a Sept '13 version the the middleman probably wont work anyways. Its not worth it with this phone, im tired of the rooting, I guess im at that point in my life... Thanks for all your help though guys!

danman421 said:
I am running a Verizon Moto X still on 4.2.2. I am rooted. This is NOT the Dev edition. I have plenty of experience with rooting/flashing these phones so back when I first got it the directions on rooting/flashing roms was VERY vague. No one specified you needed the Dev edition to unlock the boot loader. Well I think this came from at one point when I tried to flash TWRP (maybe). Either way, I want to take the OTA update and cannot. Does anyone know how to fix this without doing the RSD, reflash stock method? Here is a picture of what it looks like (thanks for your help in advance):
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Pardon my jumping in here late but..
I see a big issue here.
Based on that screen shot, you have boot loader 30.B4, that is NOT the bootloader that comes wtih 4.2.2. Did you mean to type 4.4.2? or do you really have 4.2.2 on there?
If you really had 4.2.2 on your phone with a 30.B4 bootloader, then you had 4.4.2 on there at one point, and downgraded!! You need to be REALLY CAREFUL or you will brick your phone.

You are correct, I was on 4.4.2. My wife's S4 that I just upgraded was on 4.2.2. Sorry for the confusion.

KidJoe said:
Pardon my jumping in here late but..
I see a big issue here.
Based on that screen shot, you have boot loader 30.B4, that is NOT the bootloader that comes wtih 4.2.2. Did you mean to type 4.4.2? or do you really have 4.2.2 on there?
If you really had 4.2.2 on your phone with a 30.B4 bootloader, then you had 4.4.2 on there at one point, and downgraded!! You need to be REALLY CAREFUL or you will brick your phone.
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Good catch! ?
OP... Perhaps full disclosure of what you have done on the phone would help.
Or is that how it was?
If it's been downgraded to 4.2.2 after being on 4.4.2... As said above.... You could brick now... Especially if you OTA.
I'd tread lightly at this point.

danman421 said:
You are correct, I was on 4.4.2. My wife's S4 that I just upgraded was on 4.2.2. Sorry for the confusion.
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so based on post # 14 of this post... it appears you are all good now? is that the case? Or do you still need help?
Oh, and if your bootloader is locked (Verizon non-DE), you can't get code from China Middle man, and you are on 4.4.2, you could try TowelPieRoot for rooting, but write protection is enabled so it will be kind of limited (compared to SlapMyMoto/MotoWPNoMO or if you had an unlocked bootloader), and there is no root for 4.4.4.

Yes, that was a good catch. What I did was RSD Lite to 4.4.4 now which reset all my data.

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so based on post # 14 of this post... it appears you are all good now? is that the case? Or do you still need help?
Oh, and if your bootloader is locked (Verizon non-DE), you can't get code from China Middle man, and you are on 4.4.2, you could try TowelPieRoot for rooting, but write protection is enabled so it will be kind of limited (compared to SlapMyMoto/MotoWPNoMO or if you had an unlocked bootloader), and there is no root for 4.4.4.
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Correct, I do not need help anymore but thank you.

[Q] Rooting options for Moto X Europen version Android version 4.4.4

Hello
I recently bought a Moto X (European version) and I would like to have the Xposed framework on it. To do that I need to have root access as I understand it. To gain root access I need to unlock the bootloader, or do I? I have read a couple of threads where an unlocked bootloader wasn't needed to root the phone, there was apparently some sort of exploit to forgo that. I'm wondering if that is possible with the Android 4.4.4 and European version combo?
I appreciate your time and help!
Best regards
ArticHood

Yes you need an unlocked bootloader to Root 4.4.4.
See the one stop shop for Root in the general section, right near the top. ?

ArticHood said:
...To gain root access I need to unlock the bootloader, or do I? I have read a couple of threads where an unlocked bootloader wasn't needed to root the phone, there was apparently some sort of exploit to forgo that.
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With 4.4.2, the vulnerability/exploit used to disable write protection on the 2013 X was patched and no longer works.
With 4.4.4, the vulnerability/exploit used to root phones with a locked bootloader has been patched.
With 4.4.4, the only way to root and disable write protection is to unlock the bootloader.

Link to Moto X unlocked bootloader?
Darth said:
Yes you need an unlocked bootloader to Root 4.4.4.
See the one stop shop for Root in the general section, right near the top. ?
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I am new to this site and am not sure where this "one stop shop" is. Can someone provide a link? Thanks!

ccnmnm said:
I am new to this site and am not sure where this "one stop shop" is. Can someone provide a link? Thanks!
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/one-stop-shop-how-root-moto-x-confusion-t2826159