We know that installing a Custom ROM loses the unique features the Moto X has to offer like Active Display, Always Listening, Twist to Camera but why can't they be restored or implemented in other ROMS?
I have gotten the APKs and odex of those apps, and am tempted to install a custom ROM without these features and simply push them back to /system. Sounds to easy to actually work.
Why isn't there a flashable zip out there?
Custom roms don't have the Motorola framework which the Moto apps rely on. Same applies to all other proprietary apps from other OEMs.
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Im just curious. How does one go about creating their own working custom rom? I feel like it would take forever to get everything in precise working condition and have it available for the community.
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What do u mean? There are already roms out such as Steel Droid and DarkDroid. I guess I am confused to this post.
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It depends on who/how it's created.
A lot just take the stock ROM, delete some apps, make graphical changes to the framework and edit the build.prop file. They may add an app or two (free app) that they feel enhance the phone.
Others pull the source code from Google/Android down to a Linux based workstation and make edits to the source code. Adding their own source and what not to it, replacing images (icons) and some even add new features or functions not available by modding a stock ROM (pulling in their own libraries into the stock source build).
Currently there are ZERO "source" built ROMs for the Droid 3. All are working from the stock ROM and re-theme'ing it.
Hashcode though, is working on getting the CyanogenMod source tree to compile for the Droid 3 though this takes a lot of work trying to figure out what needs to be changed to make it compile and function on the Droid 3's hardware.
tcrews said:
It depends on who/how it's created.
A lot just take the stock ROM, delete some apps, make graphical changes to the framework and edit the build.prop file. They may add an app or two (free app) that they feel enhance the phone.
Others pull the source code from Google/Android down to a Linux based workstation and make edits to the source code. Adding their own source and what not to it, replacing images (icons) and some even add new features or functions not available by modding a stock ROM (pulling in their own libraries into the stock source build).
Currently there are ZERO "source" built ROMs for the Droid 3. All are working from the stock ROM and re-theme'ing it.
Hashcode though, is working on getting the CyanogenMod source tree to compile for the Droid 3 though this takes a lot of work trying to figure out what needs to be changed to make it compile and function on the Droid 3's hardware.
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Thats interesting. Thats the kind of answer i was looking for. I was just curious. Thank you.
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tcrews said:
It depends on who/how it's created.
A lot just take the stock ROM, delete some apps, make graphical changes to the framework and edit the build.prop file. They may add an app or two (free app) that they feel enhance the phone.
Others pull the source code from Google/Android down to a Linux based workstation and make edits to the source code. Adding their own source and what not to it, replacing images (icons) and some even add new features or functions not available by modding a stock ROM (pulling in their own libraries into the stock source build).
Currently there are ZERO "source" built ROMs for the Droid 3. All are working from the stock ROM and re-theme'ing it.
Hashcode though, is working on getting the CyanogenMod source tree to compile for the Droid 3 though this takes a lot of work trying to figure out what needs to be changed to make it compile and function on the Droid 3's hardware.
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Speaking of CM74D3, I believe the last update was everything is working except GPS and Radio.
...those are two quite important things, lol.
@tcrews:
I have my laptop almost set up to pull the source code from Google and use that. However long it will take me to make something, however, remains to be seen.
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I'm not a developer so please bare with me.
Why can't HTC Sense framework be packed into a ZIP or even APK? I realize the source code is likely under lock and key by HTC, but is that what is needed to make this work? Is it not possible to extract it from developer releases of their ROMs?
Computers can operate by being able to install different packages and frameworks to make certain software work, so why not for Android? The Xposed framework can be installed via APK (similarly to how one would install C++ updates for their PC).
It would be absolutely phenomenal, if taht is even a grand enough word to use if this would be possible. That way, HTC apps like Camera, ZOE, TV etc. would be compatible even on Google Play Edition or other AOSP ROMs.
I say this because after doing research I see that a lot of HTC Sense apps were ported to previous versions of Android GE (ICS for example) that still contained Sense framework files needed to make these apps work.
Could someone intelligible please enlighten me to this? I'd love to at least understand why this is, or is not feasible.
Elite83 said:
I'm not a developer so please bare with me.
Why can't HTC Sense framework be packed into a ZIP or even APK? I realize the source code is likely under lock and key by HTC, but is that what is needed to make this work? Is it not possible to extract it from developer releases of their ROMs?
Computers can operate by being able to install different packages and frameworks to make certain software work, so why not for Android? The Xposed framework can be installed via APK (similarly to how one would install C++ updates for their PC).
It would be absolutely phenomenal, if taht is even a grand enough word to use if this would be possible. That way, HTC apps like Camera, ZOE, TV etc. would be compatible even on Google Play Edition or other AOSP ROMs.
I say this because after doing research I see that a lot of HTC Sense apps were ported to previous versions of Android GE (ICS for example) that still contained Sense framework files needed to make these apps work.
Could someone intelligible please enlighten me to this? I'd love to at least understand why this is, or is not feasible.
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Ok what you seem not to know is that the framework is the base file for the whole system. This is the file that the drivers and other low level code is set to use. HTC frameworks and AOSP or GE frameworks are very different. To make it work you would need to have HTC release all the driver code and then find a way to mix and match the frameworks to make it work. This would make it almost twice the size.
They will never make it into AOSP. As it goes against just what AOSP stands for.
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Ok what you seem not to know is that the framework is the base file for the whole system. This is the file that the drivers and other low level code is set to use. HTC frameworks and AOSP or GE frameworks are very different. To make it work you would need to have HTC release all the driver code and then find a way to mix and match the frameworks to make it work. This would make it almost twice the size.
They will never make it into AOSP. As it goes against just what AOSP stands for.
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Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining that.
Another quick question though, if that is the case, why were users(devs?) able to port some HTC Sense apps to GPE roms on previous releases of Android like JB? Or has the entire GPE rom shrunken in size since then because of the obliteration of the lingering Sense files?
Hey
I'm wondering.. is it possible to implement the two new features from the new Moto E 2015 (namely: Glimpse Notofications and Twist to Launch Camera) to our Moto G 2014.. OS is the same 5.0.2 but these features are missing from our system:crying:
I know there's actdiscplay and such, but a system-level stock app would be better IMO.
I've downloaded the system dump of the new Moto E, should I just place the apks and the odex files to /system/priv-app and given the right permissions will they work?
Thanks in advance...
You could try, i think worst case fc at some point you can easily remove those apks using twrp file manager or best backup
Good luck
Did it work?
Guys,
Recently, I am struggling between using cm12.1 and stock .222 firmware foe my Z because they both have something I desire ( system ui and camera for .222 and cm theme engine for cm12 ). My question is can they exist on my phone at the same time? If so, what ROMs or addons should I apply to my phone?
Many thanks!
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I think you should try xposed + addon Xtheme engine or HKThemeManager.
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I think you should try xposed + addon Xtheme engine or HKThemeManager.
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I have tried those but none of them works om my device…
Try RRO layers
Some apps can be themed,status bar and navigation bar on stock deodexed rooted
No, it cannot. And neither can RRO Layers (fully). Both theme engines depend on native code changes, not just Java/Smali changes, which means an .so file must be modified at source, which means Xposed (or any stock mod method) will not work - firmware needs to be modified at AOSP level and compiled from scratch. And since we don't get full Sony source code, it's practically impossible. Not feasible is more accurate.
Source: My own research.
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No, it cannot. And neither can RRO Layers (fully). Both theme engines depend on native code changes, not just Java/Smali changes, which means an .so file must be modified at source, which means Xposed (or any stock mod method) will not work - firmware needs to be modified at AOSP level and compiled from scratch. And since we don't get full Sony source code, it's practically impossible. Not feasible is more accurate.
Source: My own research.
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Ok. Thanks!
iSaidyiu said:
Ok. Thanks!
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Or u can use Multirom.
I had installed stock fw as primary rom with kexec enabled kernel like Zombie kernel and used Multirom for installing secondary roms like cm12.1 and DU.
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Or u can use Multirom.
I had installed stock fw as primary rom with kexec enabled kernel like Zombie kernel and used Multirom for installing secondary roms like cm12.1 and DU.
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True that.
Another tip if you do this is to use Link2SD (might need Pro, I do but I'm unsure if what I'm about to say is possible in Free version). You can link apps to ext# partition on microSD, and also data for those apps (I think that's the pro feature) - which means you can share user apps between both ROM's with data shared across both.
Keep in mind though that both ROM's need to have same format of apps for this to work. For example its impossible to share between 5.0 and 5.1 apps because 5.1 has a changed file structure for apk's (all their libs and the apk itself goes into a subfolder under apps in 5.1, unlike 5.0) and Link2SD can't handle that (yet, if ever).
I'm guessing CM12.1 and all other 5.1 AOSP Rom's use the same structure as stock 5.1 though, just thought I'd point this out in case you want to use a 5.0 ROM one day.
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Presently: T-Mobile-Polska ROM (4.4.2 KitKat, Build ID: KOT49H) flashed 24-03-2015y.
Well customized, rooted, well tuned up with Xpose instaler modules etc., frozen bloatware
For several months it is proposed to update for a reason: Security Fix!
Is it worth updating at all? As such a "security fixes" used to mean user couldn't customize or tune OS, you could hardly detect any other difference!
However, what is the latest or simply the best ROM for the 64bit device?
(And where to download from?)
No matter stock or custom, just it needs fully work and has some nice "state of the art" builtin functionality
The other facilities will be acquired through the means above mentioned: root, Xpose, 3Ctools and some neat tools available on the market.
Possibly half of the stock system apps are just bloatware, so 3Ctools will help to cleanup them
You might try to ask the tech support what is in this update for example the MMS fix surely feels like must have (well known by now mms bug allowing to execute a code send by mms) but if that something you could manage to dodge on your own then just ignore it.
About the ROM with some nice looks n feels well we don't have any TBH we don't have any so called "daily driver" at all but I can suggest installing a custom launcher some of the more liked ones were on sale not so long ago you just have to track the app sales
I don't suggest any cause I don't know the forum rules regard the advertising.
Edit: There's Cyanogenmod 12 but it's bugged, not something u want to use daily.
ioy said:
Presently: T-Mobile-Polska ROM (4.4.2 KitKat, Build ID: KOT49H) flashed 24-03-2015y.
Well customized, rooted, well tuned up with Xpose instaler modules etc., frozen bloatware
For several months it is proposed to update for a reason: Security Fix!
Is it worth updating at all? As such a "security fixes" used to mean user couldn't customize or tune OS, you could hardly detect any other difference!
However, what is the latest or simply the best ROM for the 64bit device?
(And where to download from?)
No matter stock or custom, just it needs fully work and has some nice "state of the art" builtin functionality
The other facilities will be acquired through the means above mentioned: root, Xpose, 3Ctools and some neat tools available on the market.
Possibly half of the stock system apps are just bloatware, so 3Ctools will help to cleanup them
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There's only 1 rom available for the 64 bit and that's the one patrik made the cm12 and it has a good amount of bugs so it's not suggested as a daily driver yet. Nothing else but that and stock.