I tested a Samsung galaxy note 8 mini tablet nearly 1 year ago and was amazed at the snote app which instantly converted rough hand drawn shapes such as squares into an editable vector equivalent, and also converted handwriting into text on the fly with near 100% accuracy. It was a note takers dream
I just bought a galaxy note 4, and the snote app is missing both those features.
Why did Samsung cripple the note 4?
Without these 2 features, I find the spen useless for meeting note taking, the only reason I bought it.
Or am I missing something?
I found the handwriting keyboard and found the recognition rate appalling.
nutmix said:
I tested a Samsung galaxy note 8 mini tablet nearly 1 year ago and was amazed at the snote app which instantly converted rough hand drawn shapes such as squares into an editable vector equivalent, and also converted handwriting into text on the fly with near 100% accuracy. It was a note takers dream
I just bought a galaxy tab 4, and the snote app is missing both those features.
Why did Samsung cripple the note 4?
Without these 2 features, I find the spen useless for meeting note taking, the only reason I bought it.
Or am I missing something?
I found the handwriting keyboard and found the recognition rate appalling.
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nutmix said:
I found the handwriting keyboard and found the recognition rate appalling.
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Same here and I'm not sure why it's so bad, I have a 2004 toshiba touchscreen pentium m "tablet" pc running xp that blows my note away with shorthand and cursive.
Maybe it only nails Korean perfectly
vector how to
Thanks for posting the "how to" for making a vector shape. I would never have guessed how to do it.
Unfortunately, this is not what I was looking for - the snote app "used to" do it on the fly, as you draw, which was FANTASTIC.
The way you outlined is slow, laborious, and un-initiative - i.e. useless for note taking.
My 2012 Note 10.1 has the on the fly shape recognition feature. I love that.
The version in this Note 4 isn't as good and I miss the Wolfram Alfa integration as well.
nutmix said:
Thanks for posting the "how to" for making a vector shape. I would never have guessed how to do it.
Unfortunately, this is not what I was looking for - the snote app "used to" do it on the fly, as you draw, which was FANTASTIC.
The way you outlined is slow, laborious, and un-initiative - i.e. useless for note taking.
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I miss that feature from Note 2 but I think only that is available in Note 4. Maybe someone with knowlege can extract S-note from Note 2 and possibly it could work with Note 4.
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I'm looking at the G-Note as my next phone. I already know Android, but I need to know is the Note good at taking extensive notes, not just "Look at this" notes. I'm not talking about writing term papers on it, but a few paragraphs. Also, is there Google Docs integration. That would be awesome.
thanks in advanced.
Personally i wouldnt take more than a few sentences of notes if i needed too.. But everyone is different..
It's a large screen phone, not a tablet PC.
YMMV. If you can type fast on a software keyboard, go for it. Or maybe a bluetooth keyboard and mouse typing directly into Google Docs would work for you? I wouldn't rely on the S-Pen for fast lecture notes though...but it's possible with practice.
You may be better suited for a Galaxy Nexus and, say, a Wacom Tablet PC (like my Lenovo X220 tablet with one note) for extensive note taking.
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It's a large screen phone, not a tablet PC.
YMMV. If you can type fast on a software keyboard, go for it. Or maybe a bluetooth keyboard and mouse typing directly into Google Docs would work for you? I wouldn't rely on the S-Pen for fast lecture notes though...but it's possible with practice.
You may be better suited for a Galaxy Nexus and, say, a Wacom Tablet PC (like my Lenovo X220 tablet with one note) for extensive note taking.
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+1 on the X220 for extensive handwritten note taking.
That said, you can still pair up a full sized bluetooth keyboard (like the MS Mobile Keyboard 6000) just fine and use a dedicated bit of office software, like QuickOffice Pro. You can probably make annotations with your s-pen afterwards if need be. Might be a bit clunky in practice, but it's an idea at least.
Thanks for the info. The notes I will be taking will b at my own speed. I work in networking and I do a lot of network diagrams and take notes on test results. So I wouldn't be trying to write a mile a minute. I'll look into you're suggestions.
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1jaxstate1 said:
Thanks for the info. The notes I will be taking will b at my own speed. I work in networking and I do a lot of network diagrams and take notes on test results. So I wouldn't be trying to write a mile a minute. I'll look into you're suggestions.
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I think the Gnote would be perfect for something like that..
I am using the note for note taking, at first when I used it, I used the software that Samsung has incorporated into the note for that purpose, although the conversion of my handwriting to text was ok, I found myself having to correct words fairly often. On this basis I would have still recommended it for your purposes with my comments highlighted.
I also own an Asus transformer tablet, I did use this for note taking but at times, for me it was still too big to carry around all the time, this might be an issue for you too if you considered something like the X220 as recommended by others. On the transformer, I bought an app from the market called WritePad which is an app that changes your handwriting into text, this app was ok on the transformer however I would not have recommended it either as the recognition was similar to the Notes performance.
I have now installed WritePad on the Note and expected the same results however I can very confidently say that this app is awesome on the Note, I get about 95% accuracy when writing continuously on the Note and it is way better than the propriety software supplied with the note. You will get the best results from this app in landscape mode as there will be more writing area and the app can be set to learn your writing style over time.
If you do not need your handwriting to be converted to text, I would say it is ok to write on but you will need to practice a bit until you get accustomed to the pen to glass feel.
Thanks for the info. I'm going to pull the trigger and get this phone. I'm only waiting now to see if it's coming to AT&T or not. I'm going to be with AT&T for a while anyway, might as well score the Note with my upgrade that I have available. Hopefully Samsung will give some information on this at CES. If they don't announce one, I'll get an unlocked Note.
ICS Note has both the old S Memo and the new S Note.
I have tried both. The S Note is very similar to S Memo, but has some extra new features of the Premium Suite.
I would say use S Note is good enough, but I am lost to see the reason for Samsung to include both apps. May be I missed something.
Can someone with good experience shed some light here?
Differences compiled from replies:
1. S Memo has a S Memo Lite (double tap with pen button pressed to quickly bring up app),
2. S Memo has widgets.
Unfortunately SNote does not have the double screen tap while pressing the SPen button to pop up a S Note Lite version ontop of any application running (pretty convenient for me actually). So in order to conserve that function they had to leave it installed.
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OK. that counts one. Anything else?
S-memo has a widget for home screen, the other app doesn't have it.
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If these are the only two features, I would say Samsung shall really merge the 2 apps into one. It should be an easy task for them.
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If these are the only two features, I would say Samsung shall really merge the 2 apps into one. It should be an easy task for them.
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I totally agree... in fact, yesterday morning I searched the forums and couldn't find any threads relating to this so created my own:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681747
They say great minds think alike!
My biggest frustration is the functionality with Evernote. S-Note syncs, but uploads as an attached file.
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I totally agree... in fact, yesterday morning I searched the forums and couldn't find any threads relating to this so created my own:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681747
They say great minds think alike!
My biggest frustration is the functionality with Evernote. S-Note syncs, but uploads as an attached file.
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I have read the other thread of yours. Your shared experience and others replies enhance my thought: Samsung did not think twice before launching S Note, may be it was in a rush to get out the Premium Suite.
My frustration is similar to yours: I do not want to use all three apps (and spend time on riding through the learning curves), but just one primary note taking tool. If I have to use all three apps with complimentary features, they should be easily synced and shared.
The app is preferred to be/have:
Nice features of S Note and the S Memo Lite (the quick double tapping feature),
Manageable. With all the different file name extensions and folder locations, I have problems in finding where the S Note, S Memo, and S Memo Lite files are.
Portable. Will S Note and S Memo still be around in a year time after the current hot Galaxy Note phone is superseded? May be Evernote is a better choice in this regard.
Also once I saw a record button over top of the app... Donno in which app but it's not there!!! That's for recording the onscreen activities right?
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Also once I saw a record button over top of the app... Donno in which app but it's not there!!! That's for recording the onscreen activities right?
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Screen capture directly into SMemo with S pen?
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Also once I saw a record button over top of the app... Donno in which app but it's not there!!! That's for recording the onscreen activities right?
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When opening the s note application choose idea note out of the 6 templates. Thats where the recording feature is found. And yes it does record everything done on screen.
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Hi,
is there anyway to open the .snb notebooks in my desktop and edit them ... i love the app and use it as my daily diary ... but cant continue if i cant edit them and save them on desktop ...
please help
I have not found one.
S-features are nice, but not really suitable for notes that are to be kept and used in future.
I am going to use something like Evernote.
I am too a bit underwhelmed and puzzled by those two apps, the fragmentation and lack of critical features (like seamless sync to online with full editing support, not only picture edit) makes all this pen thingy little more than gimmick.
I installed mostly everything that was mentioned on xda (like quill, skitch, floatnote, etc) but still nothing clicks for me.
It looks like the companies develop such software just to have something nice to put on your home screen or to make some enticing marketing videos. It's a pity, especially that some features are very nice and surely there was some serious work put into them (like handwriting/ecuations recognition).
In the end even if I would really like to use more then notes and such I can't find myself using more than the following two features:
- screen shot editing
- handwritten formula for calculations (via search->wolframalpha).
Both because they are mostly self-contained and once the activity is over I'm done, so no further editing/sync/open format/ future proofing is needed.
Any chance some enterprising dev could get this running on our nexus 7's
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/05/sam...te-brings-awesome-multi-window-feature-video/http://phandroid.com/2012/10/05/sam...te-brings-awesome-multi-window-feature-video/
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That would be cool if they could, but I'm guessing this is deeply integrated into Touch wiz.
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Umm .. *cough* *cough* Cornerstone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8w3UZIjkc
It's open source. Roman made an ICS/AOKP/Cornerstone build a long time ago ... felt it was too buggy to continue.
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AOKP got this request recently.
Seems a Cornerstone build would be the only way out...which is unlikely.
I'm fully aware this would probably be quite difficult to port, and likely quite time consuming.
Having said that, I also want this. It makes so much more sense on a 7 inch tablet then a 5 inch whatever.
This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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Running 2 apps at the same time. Seems like a great idea to me. It supports a limited amount of apps, but unlike Galaxy Note 10.1, you could probably hack in other apps to work.
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This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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Yes, but the Galaxy Note 2 supports all apps in multi-window mode...
This would be *nice* to have but I don't know how much easier it would be then to just multitasking between 2 apps now and having the apps full screen. I can see some of the benefits like watching a youtube video while chatting on Google Talk. There are some good alternatives such as popup video players and notepads that overlay on top of current app and typically are resizable and movable.
While it makes sense this would be better on a 7" then a 5"... it really would be best on a 10". 7" barely gives me enough breathing room for 1 app. Plus most of the "compatible apps" are simple things like a calculator and notes
Well it seems VERY useful to me.
It's better than popup apps in my opinion - more app options.
Overscreen browser is a great alternative for now
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No, it's not.
This allows multiple apps to run side by side, Overskreen is just the browser. Also, it's not even compatible with Jelly Bean, so no one who owns a Nexus 7 can use it.
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Yes, but the Galaxy Note 2 supports all apps in multi-window mode...
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No, as I said, handful of specific Google apps. Read up on it. Will the list grow? Maybe? I'd have to guess it is a sdk used to support the function, is it worth app dev time to do it and possibly maintain multiple versions of their app?
more then google apps
Not just google apps can do this on the samsung note 10.1 .
samsng snote and lecture app
browser
vidoe player
picture gallery
polaris office
Photo shop (special note version)
I think there a few others that are on the samsung web app store. Samsung sbe adding apps to this.
Now for the bubble burst. The reason they work on the galaxy note is the new QUAD Core cpu and 2 GB Very fast ram .. samsung tried to release a less ram/power version of the 10.1 note with a higer res display. they backed the display down and increased the cpu//ram. this is also to support the WACOM S PEN..
I have been reading alot about the device because mine will be here Monday. So the above if from my reading and research. I can update you more mid next week.. I do not see a need for split windows on a 7 inch screen .. get the overscreen browser and try it.. JUST Does not work for productive work...
Hope this help make it more understandable... too bad samsung did not make the n7 . i give up because of the screen issues sent two of them back and will NOT order a 3rd...
Dude. Overskreen DOES NOT work on Jelly Bean. And it is just one app, vs an entire suite of Google Apps.
Also there's no need for window management.
Nexus 7 has a quad-core processor too, just less RAM - which isn't even a problem, it still can handle side by side apps.
And you're telling some weird stuff here. We are talking about Galaxy Note 2, which allows more apps, and works better. AND it works on a 5 inch screen, so it'll be awesome on a seven inch.
So yeah, please don't come back with your 'research' to tell us that you think that this feature is unnecessary.
i hope sincerely as a dev can make a mod for port this feature in future beacause it's very usefull even if work only with google apps it's better ,
anyone know if a moded youtube apps existing for play a video on background because i search since 3 month but not find ?
thx
I don't think there is one, sadly. Android doesn't support true multitasking
While i would love to have or port this it simply isnt possible, it requires a lot of changing to the frameworks and it would be hard to decompile all of samsungs sources and extract it.
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I don't think there is one, sadly. Android doesn't support true multitasking
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Stock android not, but there are a few roms with cornerstone, i think mainly on 10 inch tablets.
Web os did this kinda on a dual core wish android would absorb that multitasking feature right now running multiple apps kinda is a hit and miss
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Hey there, guys
I am new to Android, just got the Note 5. My girlfriend has a Note 4 and her phone has something that would be specially for me as an Economics Grad student. Her SNote app has that formula match features, I mean, you handwrite it and then the app recognizes the correct expression. I tried to find it on my Note 5, actually that's a feature is kind of a dealbraker for me, and had no success. I went to a Samsung store and the folks out there told me that I just had to download it using Galaxy Apps. I tried hard but couldn't figure it out. Sorry for the noobie question, but where's this feature on my Note 5?
Thank you all!
Google playstore my script calculator or search for writing calculator.
Why is there no zoom functionality available in Samsung Notes anymore? Anybody else notice it? It was very helpful for me to add images of writings & notes in S-note and zoom in to get a better view of the written content. I can no longer do that
No Zoom in functionality available in Samsung Notes.
There is a magnify function with the s-pen, you can select a part of the screen to magnify/zoom
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There is a magnify function with the s-pen, you can select a part of the screen to magnify/zoom
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Thanks, I did not think of that.
I wish they won't remove the zoom feature though. It was amazing to zoom in on text and now with higher resolution it would have been a pleasant surprise. Kinda bummed out.
umair239 said:
Thanks, I did not think of that.
I wish they won't remove the zoom feature though. It was amazing to zoom in on text and now with higher resolution it would have been a pleasant surprise. Kinda bummed out.
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i do not know if this helps, but you could download the latest s note and use it like normal. The action memo also works great too
Having the same issue with the Samsung Notes app - looks like they rolled out a new version of the app that isn't in the Play Store for the Note 8. Note 8 is version 2.0.00.83, and the one in the Play Store is 1.5.00-56 - pinch zoom works fine on the older version which I haveon my Tab A w/ S-pen.
Magnify tool works well for reading notes, but I'm used to zooming in before writing so I can fit more on one page.
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Having the same issue with the Samsung Notes app - looks like they rolled out a new version of the app that isn't in the Play Store for the Note 8. Note 8 is version 2.0.00.83, and the one in the Play Store is 1.5.00-56 - pinch zoom works fine on the older version which I haveon my Tab A w/ S-pen.
Magnify tool works well for reading notes, but I'm used to zooming in before writing so I can fit more on one page.
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I have the exact same issue. I am all about updates as long as features aren't reduced. Sadly, that's the case with Samsung Notes. You can no longer zoom in to fit more in one page.
Also they removed the Multi clip feature in Note 4 where you could have as many as 10 screen clippings in one sitting and then add them to where ever you wanted. That feature was removed in Note 5. No wonder people call most of Samsung features gimmicks since they don't have the nuts to be confident in their own intuitive features whereas Apple stands by their ****ty features arrogantly even if they're completely useless. I've had all the notes so far and am now on Note 8 and am wondering why Samsung does this ****.
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i do not know if this helps, but you could download the latest s note and use it like normal. The action memo also works great too
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I gave that ago but S-note freezes on Note 8. They probably deemed it useless. What a pleasant surprise from Samsung.
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I gave that ago but S-note freezes on Note 8. They probably deemed it useless. What a pleasant surprise from Samsung.
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I have been using it since I got my Note 8 I will upload the APK
I cannot upload it, too large I'll see what else I can do