voice recognition faster and more reliable on the 2013 moto x? - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

It can't be just me. But the voice recognition seems to be far superior on the old moto x. This one is a huge let down.

pieman13 said:
It can't be just me. But the voice recognition seems to be far superior on the old moto x. This one is a huge let down.
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Possibly the lack of the X8 processor?

If you use "OK Google now" it retains its superiority. I tried quite a few custom ones and went back to the original. Works great.

I have to noticed if you use the default it seems to be much better and less problems.
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debating between HTC One, S4, or Moto x on sprint

I really like the Moto X but it doesnt seem to have much support from xda. What do you guys think?
Doesn't really need support. The out of box experience is virtually flawless.
Moto X on Verizon
Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?
I moved from the htc one to the Moto X and I have no regrets whatsoever. Better battery, better in the hand, no bloatware. It's like a Nexus you can buy on subsidy.
What you get from HTC One and GS4:
Better hardware, often lag and stuttering, more dev support, 1080p displays, slow updates, better camera, worse battery life
What you get from Moto X:
Worse hardware, no lag ever (games and applications load noticeably faster than the one and the S4), less deuv support, 720p display that has great color, updates faster than most nexus devices (got 4.4 on moto x faster than on Nexus 10, 7, 4, htc one gpe, and gs4 gpe), worse camera (but starts up faster and is still reasonable quality), easily 20+ hour battery life, active notifications, touchless control, virtually stock android, and much more...
Up to you
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I really like the Moto X but it doesnt seem to have much support from xda. What do you guys think?
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I think that should be a VERY short debate.
gsk3rd said:
Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?
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My comments on the issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538323
Active notifications. Enough said. I can't go to any other phone because of this feature alone, and I've had the s4 and HTC one. If you enjoy aosp then this is even better
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Active notifications. Enough said. I can't go to any other phone because of this feature alone, and I've had the s4 and HTC one. If you enjoy aosp then this is even better
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Because s4 had amoled, you could use Dynamic Notifications, which was the same thing. It actually had even more customizability than Active Notifications.
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Because s4 had amoled, you could use Dynamic Notifications, which was the same thing. It actually had even more customizability than Active Notifications.
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I actually didn't care for dynamic notifications, yes it had more features but I didn't work as flawless. 99 times out of a hundred when I grab my phone and look at it the time would show and I could unlock my screen. I have hit my power button to turn on my screen maybe 10 times since I bought it.
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I actually didn't care for dynamic notifications, yes it had more features but I didn't work as flawless. 99 times out of a hundred when I grab my phone and look at it the time would show and I could unlock my screen. I have hit my power button to turn on my screen maybe 10 times since I bought it.
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True. It was not flawless. And I love that the Moto just turns on even with the slightest nudge. For the s4, that option sucked.
eyc said:
True. It was not flawless. And I love that the Moto just turns on even with the slightest nudge. For the s4, that option sucked.
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Exactly, that's probably why I'll stick with moto phones for another generation or two.
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What do you need xda support for? To remove a bunch of crap or an aosp ROM with the latest android version?
You are in good hands... Moto X doesn't need that. You thinking about that Samsung Galaxy S4 at this point? Please don't buy that plastic crapped with ugly touchwiz. At least the HTC one is a beautiful piece of a phone.
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Here's the way I look at it. The Moto X can do things no other phone can do. With root and xposed I can do what most roms can do. Easy decision.
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Yep, the lack of development us because all you need is root. There's no need for custom ROMs. All you need is stock, or root + xposed framework.
Sent from my Moto X, please forgive any misswypes and forgotten words.
I have owned all 3 devices on Verizon. I started with the S4, and returned it for what the salesman said was a silly reason. The reason being the back button was on the wrong side of the screen for my preference, and I couldn't reach across the screen with my thumb and hit the back button easily.
I traded it back in within the 14 day trial on the HTC One. I really like the HTC one and the speakers. I also like the ability to turn it into a TV remote control. It has eye appeal, people think it looks cool and ask what kind of phone it is. I didn't like the power and volume buttons that are flush. I found that I had to look and make sure I was pushing in the right spot.
I really wanted to try the Moto X though, with the notifications and voice monitoring. It was a bonus that I was able to get kit kat on the second day I had it, and even cooler that it was rooted the day after that on kit kat. I usually trade phones once a month with people on craigslist just so I can try out something different, but I really like this phone.
You'll probably get biased opinions since you're posting in the Moto X forum, but here's my $.02.
I've been doing the xda/android/rom thing since the original droid. This is the first phone that has felt fine out of the box and I haven't even bothered to check to see if root and/or unlocked bootloaders have been achieved. My last phone was the GS3.
After looking around at everything I realized that all phones are basically the same. You interact with all of them the same way and they provide information in the same way. The only differences are size and quality issues (camera, screen, battery, etc...). The only unique phones are the Note 3 (with its active digitizer/stylus) and the Moto X. I was really leaning toward the note 3 since I jot down a lot of notes at work. Then I got my wife a Moto X. Two days later I had to have one. The real kicker for me was how it changes how I use my phone. Active notifications are nice and really handy, but I'm probably one of the few who uses touchless control a lot. The hands-free texting works great (especially while in the car). I use Google Now reminders several times a day. If I'm commuting and I remember something that needs be done, it's great to just say it and have my phone remind me. I find that I'm using Google now a lot. For example - If I'm cooking and need to make a conversion, I just ask the Moto. Or in the morning I ask it what the forecast is and what is my agenda while I'm shaving. It's surprising how much that step of unlocking/touching my phone used to prevent me from using it.
Now the downsides. The back of the phone looks great, but I think the front looks a little cheap. Battery life has been pretty good, but not as stellar as what others are reporting. It still is plenty to last all day. I will miss my GS3's removable storage and memory. I don't take a lot of pictures, but I hear that the Moto X's camera is so-so compared to the others.
I'm not going to go in-depth. I had the HTC One, wife has the S4, and I now have the Moto X. I personally like the Moto X more than both the former phones. Due to many reasons. S4 is too big for my taste. I always thought I wanted a big screen, but after using it I don't like it. The HTC was just too oddly shaped for my taste, and the whole Sense thing ruined it for me, as does T-wiz. After flashing an AOSP ROM on both of those phones, they were just knockoffs of the GE phones. Meh. I love my Moto X. Traded my HTC straight across for it and don't feel bad at all.
I was also worried about switching from 1080p to 720p and see no difference. I may be biased because I have one, but until I actually got it, I thought it was such a stupid phone due to the HTC and the S4 hype, and me thinking, "Nothing is as good as these two phones!". Boy was I wrong.
Oh yeah! Touchless Controls and Active Display are the ****!
Oh yeah x2! I was a serious flashaholic with my other phones and saw how slow the Moto X development seemed to be. That also had me shying away from it, but damn! I don't feel like I need to do ANYTHING. Only thing I did was root simply for Xposed so I can use GravityBox to change some colors.
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gsk3rd said:
Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?
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I did on Sprint. I can't go back to the S4 or any samsung product until they clean up touchwiz. Plus all those features are not necessary. The main selling point of Samsung is the camera, but I feel the X is passable. At this point its Motorola or Nexus devices from here on out.
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I just sold my S4 and bought a Moto X, super happy. I love this phone. It does everything well and the size and feel is amazing. The only downer is I don't want to put a case on it and ruin its ergonomics, however I want to keep it safe.
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did anyone go from nexus 5 to moto x?

just curious.. I got a nexus 5 using straight talk wireless.. so far so good.. but I had a vzw moto x developers edition and I really liked it.. I really wish I hadn't have gotten rid of it.. but I am trying to cut costs on my monthly wireless. Did anyone used to have a nexus 5 and went to a moto x.. will it work on straight talk and also are you satisfied with your choice. I have 8 days to return the nexus 5.. Any input would be great.
I haven't owned an n5....but a friend has one. I like to put it this way.....the n5 is a powerful, fast and a little barbaric Dodge viper. The Moto x is a sleek, sexy and slightly less powerful Ferrari. Pick your poison.
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I haven't owned an n5....but a friend has one. I like to put it this way.....the n5 is a powerful, fast and a little barbaric Dodge viper. The Moto x is a sleek, sexy and slightly less powerful Ferrari. Pick your poison.
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Im sending back the Nexus 5 and going with Moto X
I had an N5 originally. I didn't get the Moto X until the off contract came down a bit over the holidays. Yes the N5 is more powerful on paper but honestly I have not noticed any sluggishness or anything else with my Moto X and I don't regret the swap one bit. Loving the extra "perks" to this phone like Active Notifications and Touchless Display. You'd think they're just gimmicks but they've become very, very useful, and I couldn't imagine having a phone without them now.
I got the Moto x to check out the active display and touchless controls about 2 weeks before the nexus 5 released. I was waiting for the nexus but got bored and impatient. I then went ahead and ordered a nexus within 15 min of them going on sale. I switched to the nexus for about a week and liked the phone but missed the active notifications and the fantastic speaker/sound quality on the moto x. As soon as the moto x got it's kitkat update, I went back and ended up giving the nexus to my wife.
The nexus was a great phone but the active notifications are ridiculously useful, and the speaker quality was the best surprise. The moto x has so far the best speaker that I've found in any phone I've tested. I've even put it up against the HTC one and the x still wins. The sound quality was my biggest complaint with the nexus, it was downright disappointing after already using the moto x.
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I haven't owned an n5....but a friend has one. I like to put it this way.....the n5 is a powerful, fast and a little barbaric Dodge viper. The Moto x is a sleek, sexy and slightly less powerful Ferrari. Pick your poison.
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I have both in the office. I have to say N5 is a Subaru WRX STi...
...and Moto X is Cadillac XLR sedan.
One is a beast with unlimited ways to modify. The other is slightly more expensive, does everything you would expect and more, and does it with style.
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thinking of making the move from a N5 to a Moto X
not sure why but im really drawn to the Moto X
only thing stopping me is the camera
how much worse i sit than the n5?
bigup7 said:
thinking of making the move from a N5 to a Moto X
not sure why but im really drawn to the Moto X
only thing stopping me is the camera
how much worse i sit than the n5?
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For me its the best I have seen till now.Dont know why they are making such a fuss about it.
If you really want a better camera than this, then you should go for Cannon SLR
bigup7 said:
thinking of making the move from a N5 to a Moto X
not sure why but im really drawn to the Moto X
only thing stopping me is the camera
how much worse i sit than the n5?
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Its not a galaxy s5 with 16 mp camera. But take a look at the thread "post photos you clicked with your moto x" and you will see that it takes some really good quality pictures. I like that the camera is fast and you can twist the device to open it. The camera shouldn't be the thing that stops you from getting the x. But I think that you should wait for the nexus 4.4.3 update to see if you still want to keep the device or move over to the x. Active assist, touch less control(which is better than being on the Google experience launcher) and active notifications has been the best features I have used on a phone compared to the galaxy s4 watchon or smart move etc. Those features were gimmicky
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I use both phones quite consistently. Here is my scenario. I use the N5 probably about 65% of the time.
Things I like about the N5
The Display
Very accurate. My brother is a photographer and he sends me photos from time to time.. They are very close to what is shown on his calibrated screen. The same pictures on the moto X give jersey shore effect where everyone has a super tan.
Larger size. Even though it's just .3 inches larger it makes a difference, especially with resolution. I don't know if it's some apps but WatchESPN's clarity on the N5 is much easier on the eyes than on the X.
Processor - Everyday activities like browsing, swiping, reading, the difference isn't noticeable, but when switching from app to app frequently and games like scramble, words with friends, PvsZ, the N5 is noticeably superior.
Camera - I take the N5 camera for granted. The OIS makes a huge difference and the quality of the photos is easily better compared to the X. everytime I share a photo with my X my buddy can tell it's from the X vs the N5. It's one of the things that makes me want to throw my X out the window.
Wireless Charging - ever since I invested in several of those 12 dollar nokia wireless chargers, it makes it so convenient. When i carry the X around and I want to put it down to charge, I slap my forehead because it doesn't work with the wireless charging. I've had charging ports go bad before so this is a welcomed feature.
Things i like about my X
Size - it's small, and I can barely tell that it's in my pocket. When i switch phones I constantly have to do a pocket check just to see if it's there. Plus that little dimple is underrated. It's a very nice feel.
Wifi functionality? - For whatever reason the Moto X works fantastically with my QX100 camera attachment via wifi. Where the N5 stutters and lags on the wifi display, the Moto X is nearly lag free and doesn't stutter letting me capture my moments quicker faster and without annoyance. THIS is the primary reason why my moto X is still around. It's become my dedicated point and shoot attachment. It's pretty neat and cool feeling to be able to take shots, upload immediately, and even take calls and check email, texts, chats without having to pull my N5 out of my pocket.
Touchless controls - If I know i'm driving a lot that day, I always try to use the Moto X in the car. "What's up" and "play this song" are super duper features for me while driving and touchless calling is awesome. If touchless controls (google voice commands) could start sending messages via hangouts (non-sms) I'd use it even more. *One issue i have is What's up is somewhat glitchy. Sometimes it takes me to google search instead and sometimes it doesn't read off the notifications, but it hasn't done it that much where I'd ditch it. It's more hit than miss.
Active Display - I'm not as in love with this feature as most are. It's definitely nice. I like how the screen turns on when taking it out of your pocket. It saves me from over using the power button, which I feel has lost some tactile feel on my N5 from over use. I'd like this feature on all my upcoming phones. Active display definitely gives you more info than the notification LED but in meetings it serves the same purpose as I know what type of notification i'm getting. I can't really reach over to read the active display notification while in the meeting and plus the LED light is less subtle so people next to me don't get distracted by my phone. I know I can have it on the N5 with dynamic notifications but I've been reluctant to weigh down the N5 with anymore background tasks due to battery.
Speaker - It's LOUD 'nuff said.
Issues with both phones
Battery life - Don't get me wrong. Both are decent and would probably do the regular user just fine from day to day activities, but I'm on my phone A LOT. My normal routine has just about become, Moto X at work. N5 after work. I've come to the conclusion I need at LEAST 3000mah battery. The X for me slightly edges out the N5.
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Touchless controls - If I know i'm driving a lot that day, I always try to use the Moto X in the car. "What's up" and "play this song" are super duper features for me while driving and touchless calling is awesome. If touchless controls (google voice commands) could start sending messages via hangouts (non-sms) I'd use it even more. *One issue i have is What's up is somewhat glitchy. Sometimes it takes me to google search instead and sometimes it doesn't read off the notifications, but it hasn't done it that much where I'd ditch it. It's more hit than miss.
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I send messages through hangouts via touchless control all the time. You have to have hangouts as your default messaging app. Sorry just re-read your statement. Non SMS...
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I send messages through hangouts via touchless control all the time. You have to have hangouts as your default messaging app.
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I want chats not texts.
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I have both. And really, to me they are near equal.
My wife has the X now and I have the N5 and when friends hear how affordable both are and ask what they should get out of the 2....I usually immediately say the X. Unless any of them may interested in playing with their device, roms, mods and what not. Then I say N5. Hands down. But.....only ever had one person show interest in tinkering. So I recommend the X 95 percent of the time. LOL
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Oh....and most are blown away by touchless control.
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[Q] Galaxy S3 to Moto X

I'm thinking of moving to the Moto X. Do you miss anything from the S3? Are there hardware or software features of the Moto X you couldn't live without now? The Moto X screen seems much smaller for only being .1 inches smaller.
wkm001 said:
I'm thinking of moving to the Moto X. Do you miss anything from the S3? Are there hardware or software features of the Moto X you couldn't live without now? The Moto X screen seems much smaller for only being .1 inches smaller.
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I came from an s4. Never really used the features on the s4 except the smart stay which barely worked and the increase touch sensitivity which I do miss some. Other then that I don't really miss anything from it, being that I was stuck on TW. Got the moto x with the close to stock android feel and being on kit Kat without any issues has made the change much better. Root, busybox, greenify, and viper4android that's all you need. No need to flash custom Roms or anything. Make sure you get a 32 gig though.
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There's a whole other thread about exactly this.
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Any issues moving from a 5" 1080P screen to a 4.7" 720P screen?
Holy repeat thread batman. Stop the madness
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wkm001 said:
Any issues moving from a 5" 1080P screen to a 4.7" 720P screen?
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No issues. I use my hands for work all the time and holding the 5" s4 was actually hurting my hand and was hard to text with one hand. 720 is still as good as 1080. I watched movies on movietube and its still pretty clear.
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I came from the S4, I hated the lag. The S3 was much better. I only got the X because of Touchless Control. It was well worth it for me.
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Flash is much brighter on the S3 and it has a better camera quality. Other than that, Moto X trumps all.
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I came from the S4, I hated the lag. The S3 was much better. I only got the X because of Touchless Control. It was well worth it for me.
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I didn't know how useful touchless control and active assist would be... I've only had my moto x for about 2 weeks and set up active assist. while driving it has been the most useful thing ever. Reading text messages and responding to them and picking up phone calls or making phone calls, All without having to pick up your phone. I've been using my gs4 headphones and it works great on the x except changing songs or pausing on the headphones.
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wkm001 said:
I'm thinking of moving to the Moto X. Do you miss anything from the S3? Are there hardware or software features of the Moto X you couldn't live without now? The Moto X screen seems much smaller for only being .1 inches smaller.
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Samsung's radios are pure CRAP. So if you want to use your phone as a PHONE or a 4G LTE device - AVOID SAMSUNG AT ALL COSTS THEIR RADIOS SUCK.
Also, touchwiz is a bloated skin that causes so much lag it is ridiculous.
I've just upgraded from an s4 The moto is faster in every way except wifi speedtest. It is much easier to use one handed, but the screen seems much smaller which is weird since there really isn't such a big difference.
The radios seems about the same when I check dbm and asu numbers.
The resolution on the moto is fine though the screen suffers from a lot of black crush.
I much prefer the moto. Hated the lag on the s4 and didn't care for the bloat.
I'm moving from an S3 and hated TouchWiz so much that I unlocked it and installed CM 11 on it. On stock the interface was laggy and the camera app was horrible. On CM there were developmental problems (normal for a new CM release) like Bluetooth not working correctly but at least it was snappy and the camera app was good.
Went to the Moto X and love it, I don't miss any of the Samsung crapware and while I've heard peopel complain about the wifi it is more than fast enough for me so I don't worry about it.

[Q] Thinking about getting Moto X

I currently have a Nexus 5 and compared to a friends Moto X my screen isn't nearly as nice and the speaker is horrendous. I'm thinking about reactivating my Verizon unlimited data account and using a developer edition Moto X on it but I have some questions.
1. Who updates the Dev. Edition Moto X, Verizon or Motorola?
2. Will my Google Wallet app work like it does now with my Nexus 5 and allow NFC purchases at "Tap to Pay" stores or does verizon block that even on dev phones?
3. A bit off forum but if I use Google Voice texting, can I delete my $30 texting package on Verizon? I heard GV texting uses data only.
Thanks guys n gals!
1. Verizon
2. Yes, works on non-dev phones too
3. Sure, why not?
If you don't install custom roms, don't mind the slightly lower quality camera, and willing to sacrifice some performance especially in 3D gaming, then the Moto X may work for you. I think if you get the Moto X be intended to use stock firmware because it isn't as flexible as Nexus. The Moto X will have better battery life than the Nexus, I usually get 5 hours screen on time.
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While I continue to say that my, wife's now, Moto x is the superior phone overall....especially for those that just want a great working phone....and aren't flashaholics......I must say, I was fearful of the battery life drop switching to the N5....but after some usual tweaking.....I'm allllllmost matching my Moto x battery times. 26 hour average with 6 hour screen time. I was surprised for sure after things I read.
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I traded my N5 for a Moto X.
I like the AMOLED of the X more, the speaker and even the vibration. Touchless controls is nice, but the real killer feature is ActiveNotificatons. It's more than fast enough.
I recommend a trade
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1. Verizon
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Sorry that killed it right there. Thanks for the replies!
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Sorry that killed it right there. Thanks for the replies!
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Actually Verizon was quick to release the 4.4.2 update right after T-Mobile so that was quick. On the other hand we on at&t are still waiting on the 4.4.2 update with some people that got invites for soak tests but yet to receive them yet.
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Will Moto Suite be compatible with N6?

Would be nice to get some Moto apps like moto voice, display and assist on the phone.
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Would be nice to get some Moto apps like moto voice, display and assist on the phone.
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Good question. I am speculating no. A lot of the original Moto experience is now inside Lollipop, so you get OK Google Now and all of that. I don't think the 6 has the extra IR sensors.
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Good question. I am speculating no. A lot of the original Moto experience is now inside Lollipop, so you get OK Google Now and all of that. I don't think the 6 has the extra IR sensors.
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I did read in the L change log that it will support ok Google while the screen is turned off. Was hoping for the reading texts aloud and respond while driving. AGENT app will help with that if it's not available on the n6. Active display I guess could be replaced with dynamic since it's an amoled screen.
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I did read in the L change log that it will support ok Google while the screen is turned off. Was hoping for the reading texts aloud and respond while driving. AGENT app will help with that if it's not available on the n6. Active display I guess could be replaced with dynamic since it's an amoled screen.
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How does Dynamic handle security passcode on the phone? Since DN's security feature isn't built-in, it acts really weird and could easily be bypassed. I would think Moto Display would be tighter.
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How does Dynamic handle security passcode on the phone? Since DN's security feature isn't built-in, it acts really weird and could easily be bypassed. I would think Moto Display would be tighter.
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Moto display world be tighter for sure but if it's not compatible then dynamic would be the alternative. I'm hoping moto suite somehow is compatible but I'm not optimistic about it
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I think it is AMOLED.
Not sure if it will have moto voice, but it will have "Ok Google" with the screen off.
This is the one question I'm really hoping the answer is yes. I really like the Moto Suite on the Moto X 2014, but the storage and battery size on the N6 are a big selling point to me. I don't want to have to choose, so I'm hoping the two devices are similar enough that someone figures out a way to hack the Moto Apps onto it.
(I know some of the functionality of the Moto Apps is already baked into Lolipop, but it's sounding like Moto's implementation is more fully featured.)
We've never had any OEM software on previous devices so I don't see why this would change
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We've never had any OEM software on previous devices so I don't see why this would change
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I guess the closest thing we got were the Google play edition phones that had stock android but a few tweaks to work with the infrared blasters and HTC camera.
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I guess the closest thing we got were the Google play edition phones that had stock android but a few tweaks to work with the infrared blasters and HTC camera.
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That's the reverse though. That was Google releasing their stuff to OEM. Not OEM releasing their stuff to Google.
GPE had OEM frameworks.
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