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I'm wondering does the gear actually have a pedometer in it or does it use the phones pedometer.
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Has its own
Oh man I want this soooooo bad.
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Oh man I want this soooooo bad.
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My question is, how accurate is it? I read one review that the reviewer wore it and a fit bit for a day and they only differed by 100 steps, so sounds pretty accurate to me. I have been wearing mine for 5 days now, and I feel like its reading way high. Usually between 5000-6000 feet a day working a desk job and being a bum at home. Plus today I looked at in in my car on the way home from work and in the course of about 5 minutes of driving I apparently walked 100 steps give or take.
My girlfriend also has a fit bit, so I am going to try to wear it and the watch one day and see how close they are.
The pedometer is about dead accurate. You have to remember its on your active hand so a lot of your hand movements are going to also record as steps.
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I walk around for a lot of my day and my FitBit One seems much more accurate than the Gear. Gear tracked over 15k steps while my fitbit was in the 11k range. Huge difference. I wonder which fitbit the reviewer you mentioned had on. I don't think any of the wrist based pedometers are ever going to be as accurate as the hip based. Too much inadvertent hand movement to be really accurate.
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My experience has been that while walking the pedometer is VERY accurate. The problem is there are a lot of hand motions that are registered as steps when they really aren't. So as an all day tracker, your steps are going to be inflated. If you are just tracking a walk or run, the results should be right on.
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My experience has been that while walking the pedometer is VERY accurate. The problem is there are a lot of hand motions that are registered as steps when they really aren't. So as an all day tracker, your steps are going to be inflated. If you are just tracking a walk or run, the results should be right on.
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Yeah thats what I have noticed. I wear mine on my non dominate hand, so hopefully that helps, but I still know it tracks hand movements. I didn't know there were different fitbits, I know my girlfriends is a wrist worn one. But she still thinks my gear is way off from her fit bit
I know my reads too high.
I have a 2 mile course I run daily. I have measured it with a car odometer and with the apps Runtastic & MapMyRun.
All those options read 2 miles or very close to that. I ran the same route today using the pedometer & it read 2.4 miles.
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I know my reads too high.
I have a 2 mile course I run daily. I have measured it with a car odometer and with the apps Runtastic & MapMyRun.
All those options read 2 miles or very close to that. I ran the same route today using the pedometer & it read 2.4 miles.
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I realy want to like this thing, and I know it will only get better with time. But whats the point of a pedometer if its off by so much?
My gear reads high step count also. In the morning when step count is at zero if i take 1 step gear reads 6.
Okay guys,
I haven't posted anything on XDA for a long time.
But my stupidity has led me to posting once again.
My Nexus 5 was performing great. Loved it! No defects whatsoever.
In these days it seems like you need to be a bit lucky when buying tech.
It happens quite a lot that one buys a device, only to find that something or other is wrong with it.
With this thought still in the back of my mind, I noticed my N5 behaving strangely a couple of days ago.
And of course thought to myself: "Yep, there we go. What will it be this time."
See, the thing was that sometimes when I turned the screen off and put the phone down, it would turn the screen on again.
"That's odd." I thought to myself. And the weird thing was, it wasn't consistent.
Sometimes it would, sometimes it wouldn't.
Very odd indeed. To top it off sometimes it would have the actually quite cool feature of turning the screen on when I picked it up.
Just before I wrote this I was browsing the web, annoyed about my faulty Nexus, when for a short pause I looked at my desk.
Was I really that stupid? Could it be?
My N5 was laying on my N7... The N7 was nicely protected by a case...
This case... Has a magnet in it...
Apparently the N5 has an auto on off function for flip covers. My god did I feel stupid.
This was one of the biggest face palm's of my tech life and I couldn't resist to share.
Post your recent discoveries!:good:
Cheers,
Daan
There isn't much about the N5 that surprised me, but here goes :
- you can take a picture using the volume buttons (I know it's from 4.3, but I often forget that it works!)
- compatible flip covers can wake up the phone
- you can scrub back and forth through a song on the lock screen (not just skipping tracks)
- ART vs Dalvik
I think that's it.
multi color led is a big one for me... was using light flow but wasn't seeing different colors... tapped on the led a few times and it 're seated'...
You can use your Nexus 5 for hammering nails*
*Not recommended for hammering nails.
Tried to use as a vibrator on my wife, but the vibration is nothing like my old n4.
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Tried to use as a vibrator on my wife, but the vibration is nothing like my old n4.
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Ooookkaaayy. Good to know I guess.
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Hi, just got my Z1 today and am super exited. Just one thing though..with mild to medium usage it hangs around 33-37 degrees celsius. Is this normal? I know its make mostly of metal and glass so this might not be a problem. Just wanted to make shure. I appreciate any response! Thanks!
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Hi, just got my Z1 today and am super exited. Just one thing though..with mild to medium usage it hangs around 33-37 degrees celsius. Is this normal? I know its make mostly of metal and glass so this might not be a problem. Just wanted to make shure. I appreciate any response! Thanks!
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it's ok no issues, playing games for long hours it reaches upto 43-45C.
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it's ok no issues, playing games for long hours it reaches upto 43-45C.
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Yea same but I'm talking about normal usage like browsing that takes it up to 39 and 40 degrees?
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it's ok no issues, playing games for long hours it reaches upto 43-45C.
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Yes same no issues m browsing from past 30 mints on 3G and it is 40 now...
Check pic here
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Yea same but I'm talking about normal usage like browsing that takes it up to 39 and 40 degrees?
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dont worry, wont heat up as bad as the older S4 Kraits
my old Xperia V heats up worse than my current Z1 lol
maybe it is the glass. nexus 5 is way cooler in similar usage... but heat is good in winter
All the flagships I bought since late 2011 had heating issues. Granted Z1 is a little worse but don't worry, iPad 3 gets hotter than this yet it works fine! but if you still worry: Phones warn you when they reach their temperature limit so you will be fine until you get that message! and if you did just clean the task manager and leave the phone for a while
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All the flagships I bought since late 2011 had heating issues. Granted Z1 is a little worse but don't worry, iPad 3 gets hotter than this yet it works fine! but if you still worry: Phones warn you when they reach their temperature limit so you will be fine until you get that message! and if you did just clean the task manager and leave the phone for a while
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Haha what do you have against the Note 3? Ive read everywhere people arent that fond of it. Maybe it was because all those comments on it I read in this subforum haha. Do you notice a type of rattling sound in your Z1 when you tap it on different parts? not alot but minimal, like the body isnt completely unified?
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Haha what do you have against the Note 3? Ive read everywhere people arent that fond of it. Maybe it was because all those comments on it I read in this subforum haha. Do you notice a type of rattling sound in your Z1 when you tap it on different parts? not alot but minimal, like the body isnt completely unified?
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The rattle is because of the camera lens. The lens needs a little room to jiggle in order to focus on target. All the phones are like this, including premium built devices like iPhone 4/4S/5/5S, HTC One/X/X+ AND LUMIA 1020 all of which I had or worked with, that God awful note 3 is no exception either! If you wanna know why I hate Samsung phones in general PM me on Facebook: Ara Rezaee. I don't have time to start a war here for no reason!
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Haha what do you have against the Note 3? Ive read everywhere people arent that fond of it. Maybe it was because all those comments on it I read in this subforum haha. Do you notice a type of rattling sound in your Z1 when you tap it on different parts? not alot but minimal, like the body isnt completely unified?
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Who would want low quality build, bad display etc when you can get premium phones like Z1, Z Ultra !
Seriously, you buy a new phone and the plastic frame looks like one of those parts you scissor out to build cars, boats, planes with glue. There's chips and black spots on the cheap plastic frame from the start.
Not to mention how friggin HOT samsung phones get. I'm glad I got some sense into me even if it took a all these years to switch, I was scared but damn, I'm glad I did it.
On another note, I hope Sonys phones in the future never have glossy plastic, that's really disgusting.
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The rattle is because of the camera lens. The lens needs a little room to jiggle in order to focus on target. All the phones are like this, including premium built devices like iPhone 4/4S/5/5S, HTC One/X/X+ AND LUMIA 1020 all of which I had or worked with, that God awful note 3 is no exception either! If you wanna know why I hate Samsung phones in general PM me on Facebook: Ara Rezaee. I don't have time to start a war here for no reason!
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I messaged you on fb haha
SweFox said:
Who would want low quality build, bad display etc when you can get premium phones like Z1, Z Ultra !
Seriously, you buy a new phone and the plastic frame looks like one of those parts you scissor out to build cars, boats, planes with glue. There's chips and black spots on the cheap plastic frame from the start.
Not to mention how friggin HOT samsung phones get. I'm glad I got some sense into me even if it took a all these years to switch, I was scared but damn, I'm glad I did it.
On another note, I hope Sonys phones in the future never have glossy plastic, that's really disgusting.
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Word bro. My S3 got to 45 degrees from having chrome and g+ open. Its one of the main reasons i switched. (and also the less than premium feel and look.) Shure the Z1 is a bit heavier than most phones, but i guess being the best looking android phones comes at the cost of weight.
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Hi, just got my Z1 today and am super exited. Just one thing though..with mild to medium usage it hangs around 33-37 degrees celsius. Is this normal? I know its make mostly of metal and glass so this might not be a problem. Just wanted to make shure. I appreciate any response! Thanks!
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The first z1 I had would become warm after medium usage and I found that the battery would drain quick. I exchanged it and my current one runs cooler with much better battery life. As long as your battery life is good I would not worry about the phone being a little warm
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The first z1 I had would become warm after medium usage and I found that the battery would drain quick. I exchanged it and my current one runs cooler with much better battery life. As long as your battery life is good I would not worry about the phone being a little warm
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Haha sent from your Nexus 7!
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Haha sent from your Nexus 7!
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True story!
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True story!
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Okay better now lol
hondaguy said:
The first z1 I had would become warm after medium usage and I found that the battery would drain quick. I exchanged it and my current one runs cooler with much better battery life. As long as your battery life is good I would not worry about the phone being a little warm
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my battery life is good i havent had problem with that.
After having the Z1 I cannot go back to plastic lol, I love the premium feel.
No idea what the temp threshold is but coming from a HTC One, I can tell you that it feels no where near as hot as that phone did, that was a hot phone, great, but hot.
The Z1 does reboot on it's own now and again, which is weird, not everyone has it but i have and so have quite a few people who i know.
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Hi, just got my Z1 today and am super exited. Just one thing though..with mild to medium usage it hangs around 33-37 degrees celsius. Is this normal? I know its make mostly of metal and glass so this might not be a problem. Just wanted to make shure. I appreciate any response! Thanks!
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ya friend im using it from 1 month ,it gets heat when using camera for 2 mins or playing some hardcore games,but it gets cool very fast,think its not a prob
Works great with my Note 3 using BajaRom. I work for Samsung. Best Buy has had a delay in their deliveries but they are fairly easy to get in many ATT stores. I really like it. Really good deal at $199. Of the 3 watches i feel that this gives the most features at the best price point. I'm not posting screenshots as they are everywhere by now. A few quick things to note. I haven't tried the sleep tracker or pedometer yet but the heart rate monitor has been spot on for me. I loaded about 50 songs on it. Bluetooth music streaming sounds awesome on this. Not sure why but i expected less but was super happy with the sound quality and volume. Speaker during calls is louder than i anticipated. Not tested battery life much yet. Very light and comfortable. There are quite a few settings that can be changed via gear manager. I'm sure some work better than others but essentially notifications can be set for all installed applications on your phone. Watch On remote is limited obviously but works great on my Mitsubishi TV with Dish Network. I also noticed that you can allow unknown apps so side loading apps will not be an issue. I will update how the sleep tracking and pedometer goes after tonight and tomorrow. Overall in a non biased way i really am impressed with the job they did and the future of smart watches in general.
Please keep us updated on the pedometer aspect. I'm looking for a replacement for my fitbit force. And I like seeing what I walk everyday.
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bckrupps said:
I loaded about 50 songs on it.
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Who still loads songs onto devices? Get Spotify, Pandora, or some streaming service.
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Who still loads songs onto devices? Get Spotify, Pandora, or some streaming service.
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The idea for it is that you leave your phone in the locker, and use BT headphones so you not carrying your phone around the gym/work out.
Shame its still not 100% waterproof and still unable to swap out bands. If only those two last items were met, I would of bought one.
Instead I will stick with my pebble.
I purchased the neo and then returned it for the gear 2. There is a rubber coating on the outside of the neo and even with the slightest scratch it will scrape off and the scratches are way more obvious. The button on my neo was the first thing to show a scratch within the first couple of days so I spent a little more and I don't regret it at all. The neo is perfect for a females hand also due to its weight, so if you like a heavier watch but not as heavy as the original then stick with the Gear 2. Love it except for all the initial bugs with the software.
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The idea for it is that you leave your phone in the locker, and use BT headphones so you not carrying your phone around the gym/work out.
Shame its still not 100% waterproof and still unable to swap out bands. If only those two last items were met, I would of bought one.
Instead I will stick with my pebble.
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The mp3 player on the watch is sick. I never listen to mp3s anymore but the option of not having to have your phone at times is excellent. Just to clarify YES you can swap out different bands. also its not waterproof but its water resistant. No bathing or swimming with it but who does that?
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The mp3 player on the watch is sick. I never listen to mp3s anymore but the option of not having to have your phone at times is excellent. Just to clarify YES you can swap out different bands. also its not waterproof but its water resistant. No bathing or swimming with it but who does that?
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I dropped my Neo into a bowl of water over 10mins it still works and also I've showered with it on. But I didn't try to scrub it or put soap on it. One down fall is that the water on the screen will make the device to have a mind of its own kept acting like I was pressing random buttons.
Also does anyone know how to install non Samsung apps into the device and how to get Flesky sms to my Neo? I've seen for the original gear but not the gear 2.
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Still, 50 songs will be repeated really fast. I don't know what's wrong with just getting a armband for your phone.
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Still, 50 songs will be repeated really fast. I don't know what's wrong with just getting a armband for your phone.
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It has about 2.3gb of storage available. I have added 128 songs so far. Another guy at work has 361 so far so you can load way more than 50 with lots of room to spare lol. I used the sleep tracker last night and it works great. i will try the pedometer out tomorrow weather permitting. we have a track by my house exactly a mile long so we will see how accurate it is.
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I dropped my Neo into a bowl of water over 10mins it still works and also I've showered with it on. But I didn't try to scrub it or put soap on it. One down fall is that the water on the screen will make the device to have a mind of its own kept acting like I was pressing random buttons.
Also does anyone know how to install non Samsung apps into the device and how to get Flesky sms to my Neo? I've seen for the original gear but not the gear 2.
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at this point because it runs Tizen there isn't much available yet but you will be able to side load stuff when it comes out as there is an option to allow unknown sources.
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It has about 2.3gb of storage available. I have added 128 songs so far. Another guy at work has 361 so far so you can load way more than 50 with lots of room to spare lol. I used the sleep tracker last night and it works great. i will try the pedometer out tomorrow weather permitting. we have a track by my house exactly a mile long so we will see how accurate it is.
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2.3GB is not a lot when you have songs in a high quality. even more so when you start installing apps and other stuff on it.
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2.3GB is not a lot when you have songs in a high quality. even more so when you start installing apps and other stuff on it.
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Yeah. These smart watches seem like a cool idea, but at $200 for 4GB or less of memory and only about 100 apps available, they seem like only a must-have for the extreme geek.
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2.3GB is not a lot when you have songs in a high quality. even more so when you start installing apps and other stuff on it.
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Seems like more than enough to serve the purpose. Its a watch with some nice features. You can transfer songs on the fly with your phone. Im not sure why anyone would need more as its used to stream some songs during a workout and its kinda small to have a 1tb hard drive built in. I cant imagine needing much storage for apps as they will be smaller and basic apps to accomadate a watch
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The idea for it is that you leave your phone in the locker, and use BT headphones so you not carrying your phone around the gym/work out.
Shame its still not 100% waterproof and still unable to swap out bands. If only those two last items were met, I would of bought one.
Instead I will stick with my pebble.
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It's ip rating is good underwater for 30 minutes up to 1 meter in fresh water
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Hello, .
Got my Neo yesterday, I can trully say that it is much better than I expect, looks and feel really good. The main purpose to buy it was the heart rate sensor, I am fade up with my polar RS800CX, it consumes too much baterries and the chest trap is a pain in the ... to wear.
So, this morning I went for a 150 minutes walk with my wife, she was wearing a fitbit one. In the end both devices had the same distance (+- 300 meters) and a diference of 400 steps, We were walking side by side with a sincronized step, The good thing was that I had my heart rate checked all the way, the bad is that some of the readings were sometimes wrong, some picks at 155bpm (too high) and an average of 122 bpm, which is a bit too much. But i´ll try some more on that to be certain.
the other bad thing for me is that I am not abble to sync with s-health, only Fitness with gear app, available on Samsung store, but everything is new I hope that in the near future things will improve.
Regards.
PS: forgot to mention that my phone is a Note 3
Got my Neo as well. love it so far but disappointed about the lack of apps!!! need more watch faces at the very least!!!!
Got it synced with my Note 2, no problems.
Long shot but it would be great if the Slacker folks did a Gear 2 app and let you download music to it.
I would be more then happy to get android wear on it and to play with more options
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Hello, .
So, this morning I went for a 150 minutes walk with my wife, she was wearing a fitbit one. In the end both devices had the same distance (+- 300 meters) and a diference of 400 steps, We were walking side by side with a sincronized step,
PS: forgot to mention that my phone is a Note 3
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The pedometer on mine appears excellent, after wearing it at the same time as my fitbit force today. At the end of today it tells me 13355 steps, compared to 13669 on my fitbit and 12823 on my Note 3. Overall very happy with this.
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Hello, .
Got my Neo yesterday, I can trully say that it is much better than I expect, looks and feel really good. //cut//. . . The good thing was that I had my heart rate checked all the way, the bad is that some of the readings were sometimes wrong, some picks at 155bpm (too high) and an average of 122 bpm, which is a bit too much. But i´ll try some more on that to be certain. the other bad thing for me is that I am not abble to sync with s-health, only Fitness with gear app, available on Samsung store, but everything is new I hope that in the near future things will improve. Regards. PS: forgot to mention that my phone is a Note 3
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I, too, got my Neo yesterday -and did pretty much what you did! The pace count seems ok. . .Actually I kind of thought my phone (S4 running GoldenEye or Shostock roms 4.4.2) might be more accurate! The heartrate monitor works great -except if you are in motion. While at rest on the Gym machines this morning I compared readouts from the workout machine monitors and the phone -pretty much exactly the same. However, while trying to measure while doing the elliptical or biking machine --the machine was able to deliver a pulse, but the neo either failed or gave a very low reading (my pulse was not 59 while biking the hill climb routine!)
I spent about an hour on the S Health sync thing yesterday -very annoying. The "old" S Health (2.5 I think) did not sync, the Fitness gear app DID sync. I got the Galaxy S5 S Health (ver 3.0) and loaded it on the phone and it DID/Yes sync. However, I can't find a way to get my old S Health data on the new S Health app. The ver 2.5 would present a back up restore menu when in the account window. The new 3.0 versions don't seem to have a restore option anywhere --at least I could not find it. I kind of hate to lose my old data --it's not that important, but it helps for reference and comparison.
EDIT: SLEEP.APK OK I had to manually update the Neo's rom via Kies3 (after DL/Installing Kies3, plugged in the Neo and Kies discovered a software update. I went from Neo Rom NCD to ND8.) After the update, I had the Sleep app in apps!
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I, too, got my Neo yesterday -and did pretty much what you did! The pace count seems ok. . .Actually I kind of thought my phone (S4 running GoldenEye or Shostock roms 4.4.2) might be more accurate! The heartrate monitor works great -except if you are in motion. While at rest on the Gym machines this morning I compared readouts from the workout machine monitors and the phone -pretty much exactly the same. However, while trying to measure while doing the elliptical or biking machine --the machine was able to deliver a pulse, but the neo either failed or gave a very low reading (my pulse was not 59 while biking the hill climb routine!)
I spent about an hour on the S Health sync thing yesterday -very annoying. The "old" S Health (2.5 I think) did not sync, the Fitness gear app DID sync. I got the Galaxy S5 S Health (ver 3.0) and loaded it on the phone and it DID/Yes sync. However, I can't find a way to get my old S Health data on the new S Health app. The ver 2.5 would present a back up restore menu when in the account window. The new 3.0 versions don't seem to have a restore option anywhere --at least I could not find it. I kind of hate to lose my old data --it's not that important, but it helps for reference and comparison.
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hello,
I am having the same problem with shealth, version 2.5 is not compatible, version 3.1 works great until i reset my phone, then I loose all data, it happened 3 times. So far the only one working is Fitness with Gear, but it is very poor, no weight management, no food, no maps of the exercice, it is really poor. So, I am expecting a new version of shealth for note 3.
About the heart rate, I noticed that during the exercice the precision is not always good, but at the end the average is ok. Let see further with some more experience. meanwhile I will hold the polar retirement.
Come on Samsung, We are expecting an update, our phones are not so old.
Regards
Has anyone figured out how to get a continuous hear rate from the watch? I just got mine today and it seems that none of the apps can do it. I have tried android fit, hear rate app, and runtastic. Without continuous monitoring of the heart rate the feature is useless in my opinion.
I have same problem, without permanent checks is useless. Is giving nothing with endomondo itd. I don't want check my HR sometimes only.
I choose samsung because of this... and this problem with charger... I choose samsung first time after long time, and I think it's my next mistake.
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I have same problem, without permanent checks is useless. Is giving nothing with endomondo itd. I don't want check my HR sometimes only.
I choose samsung because of this... and this problem with charger... I choose samsung first time after long time, and I think it's my next mistake.
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What exactly happens with the charger? I had a gear 2 and the charger looked almost identical to this one and it had no issues. I don't get how they are breaking.
http://androidandme.com/2014/07/new...harger-reportedly-damaging-some-smartwatches/
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http://androidandme.com/2014/07/new...harger-reportedly-damaging-some-smartwatches/
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I don't really think there is an issue at all, except for a few people who misused the device and want to blame the manufacture.
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I don't really think there is an issue at all, except for a few people who misused the device and want to blame the manufacture.
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this.
in the videos of unboxing and early looks i watched, virtually every reviewer tried to put on and take off the cradle as it they were the hulk. if put on like a normal human being who doesn't want to break their $200 gadget, the cradle works perfectly fine.
as for continuous heart rate, with the way the sensor (optical) works i don't ever see that happening. and if somehow enabled, working very well at all. the sensor needs you to not be moving and cannot handle moisture. it was designed with more of a before and after exercise use in mind. this is the same way it works on any samsung device with a heart rate monitor.
even when it works, it's okay at best.
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this.
in the videos of unboxing and early looks i watched, virtually every reviewer tried to put on and take off the cradle as it they were the hulk. if put on like a normal human being who doesn't want to break their $200 gadget, the cradle works perfectly fine.
as for continuous heart rate, with the way the sensor (optical) works i don't ever see that happening. and if somehow enabled, working very well at all. the sensor needs you to not be moving and cannot handle moisture. it was designed with more of a before and after exercise use in mind. this is the same way it works on any samsung device with a heart rate monitor.
even when it works, it's okay at best.
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The optical heart rate sensor is a pretty standard device that has been used in hospitals for many years. It measures blood oxygen levels. You've probably worn one in the hospital on the end of your finger, they use a red beam. Also the Gear 2 has continuous heart rate, as do other fitness watches such as the Mio Alpha. I've owned both and they work perfectly. There is no reason the Gear Live can't do it just as well as the Gear 2. Its probaby the same exact piece of hardware.
seh6183 said:
The optical heart rate sensor is a pretty standard device that has been used in hospitals for many years. It measures blood oxygen levels. You've probably worn one in the hospital on the end of your finger, they use a red beam. Also the Gear 2 has continuous heart rate, as do other fitness watches such as the Mio Alpha. I've owned both and they work perfectly. There is no reason the Gear Live can't do it just as well as the Gear 2. Its probaby the same exact piece of hardware.
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that's interesting, only having owned a gear 1, i was unaware of that. the hardware is most likely identical and is then most likely a limitation of either the fitness app or android wear.
The Gear Fit also has continuous monitoring while doing exercise.
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Runtastic when linked to the Gear 2 allows continuous heart rate monitoring. A guy in my running group has one which was part of the reason I got the Live as figured it would work the same.
I'm assuming either Samsung will update their Gear manager to link to the Live eventually or app developers will add the feature once they work it out.
At this point I just can not live without my gear live. I felt that way about the gear 2 and this thing blows it out of the water. I really really need continuous heart rate though and hope they release something soon.
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The optical heart rate sensor is a pretty standard device that has been used in hospitals for many years. It measures blood oxygen levels. You've probably worn one in the hospital on the end of your finger, they use a red beam. Also the Gear 2 has continuous heart rate, as do other fitness watches such as the Mio Alpha. I've owned both and they work perfectly. There is no reason the Gear Live can't do it just as well as the Gear 2. Its probaby the same exact piece of hardware.
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Pulse ox at the fingertip is accurate, not at the wrist. Here's a good article about why optical sensors at the wrist aren't good.
I'm currently under 10 posts, pardon spaces in the link: cnet.com/ news /how-accurate-are-wristband-heart-rate-monitors
I've had 2 wrist mounted optical sensors and they worked with perfect accuracy.
I too had the Mio Alpha, and ran with both that and my chest strap HRM for weeks, it was never off by more than 2 bpm.
So now I've gotten a full fledged smartwatch in the Gear Live hoping it would still perform the fitness functions of the Alpha, but can't find an app to help me do so. Has anyone found anything?
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I too had the Mio Alpha, and ran with both that and my chest strap HRM for weeks, it was never off by more than 2 bpm.
So now I've gotten a full fledged smartwatch in the Gear Live hoping it would still perform the fitness functions of the Alpha, but can't find an app to help me do so. Has anyone found anything?
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I have been looking for something too but haven't found anything. I have emailed the developer for this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pribble.htc.ble.hrm
I also tweeted the developer for this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=burtonator.heartman
If I hear something back I will update here.
It's totally lame because the gear 2 does it, albeit not as good as the mio. Honestly though once I saw that the moto 360 had a HRM both my gear lives went for sale. I really hate Samsung with a passion lol and won't be buying one of their products for a while. They make these great products with potential and then use the cheapest materials on planet earth to construct them and then have a 5 year old draw their OS with crayons and release it. I hope they aren't shocked their sales have dipped significantly last quarter.
I'm basically upset about the whole charging debacle and the fact that Samsung purposely crippled the gear live by not developing a simple heart rate app because they don't want the live to compete with their horrible Tizen platform. I guarantee moto will have a continuous heart rate monitor out of the box when it's released.
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It's totally lame because the gear 2 does it, albeit not as good as the mio. Honestly though once I saw that the moto 360 had a HRM both my gear lives went for sale. I really hate Samsung with a passion lol and won't be buying one of their products for a while. They make these great products with potential and then use the cheapest materials on planet earth to construct them and then have a 5 year old draw their OS with crayons and release it. I hope they aren't shocked their sales have dipped significantly last quarter.
I'm basically upset about the whole charging debacle and the fact that Samsung purposely crippled the gear live by not developing a simple heart rate app because they don't want the live to compete with their horrible Tizen platform. I guarantee moto will have a continuous heart rate monitor out of the box when it's released.
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I'm not sure the Moto360 will have anything more available than the Live does... RunTracker, RunTastic, GoogleFit, MyTracks,etc... none of them pull data from the HRM on the Live... They are the same apps that will be available to the 360 when it finally gets here.
I also had a Gear2 and while it had software to do continuous monitoring, it was a bad hardware design. I was hopeful the Live would be better since they curved the back and moved the sensor to the middle. On the Gear2, the sensor was in the corner and the back was flat which kept the corner and sensor from staying in direct contact with my wrist.
This layout is like the Mio, but unbelievably there is no software that utilizes the HRM yet.
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I'm not sure the Moto360 will have anything more available than the Live does... RunTracker, RunTastic, GoogleFit, MyTracks,etc... none of them pull data from the HRM on the Live... They are the same apps that will be available to the 360 when it finally gets here.
I also had a Gear2 and while it had software to do continuous monitoring, it was a bad hardware design. I was hopeful the Live would be better since they curved the back and moved the sensor to the middle. On the Gear2, the sensor was in the corner and the back was flat which kept the corner and sensor from staying in direct contact with my wrist.
This layout is like the Mio, but unbelievably there is no software that utilizes the HRM yet.
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I feel exactly the same way. When I saw the location of the sensor on the live I was excited and immediately offed my gear 2. Then waited weeks for my live to arrive only to find out it was literally useless. That coupled with yet another build quality issue from Samsung (charger) and I'm done. I'm confident the moto 360 will have a Motorola app capable of monitoring heart rate continuously.
Well since the moto 360 will have the same apps as the g watch and the gear live since they are keeping the manufacturers from changing android wear , it's really up to a developer to make an app that uses this function otherwise Google will have to release something.
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Well since the moto 360 will have the same apps as the g watch and the gear live since they are keeping the manufacturers from changing android wear , it's really up to a developer to make an app that uses this function otherwise Google will have to release something.
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They can still add their own apps to the watch if they wanted to. If not they could just make an app and put it in the store to be downloaded.