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Hey everyone,
I'm not sure if I have an issue with a defective Captivate or if it running as intended. That's why I've come to you guys for some insight.
Here's my scenario:
A few days ago, I decided to leave my Captivate off of the charger overnight to see how much battery I would awaken with. It was just a little experiment I thought of to see how much the battery drains while not having anything intensive to do (such as power a screen). I fully charged the Captivate to 100% before setting it on my desk and going to bed. As normally, everything was turned off except wi-fi. When I awoken the next day (8 hours of sleeping), to my surprise, my battery was down to 27%. I was shocked that something could have drained almost 70% of my battery overnight. I downloaded an app called Spare Parts as a recommendation by some people and I seen "Running 100%" which means that the phone spent no time sleeping. When I look at any partial wakelocks, it showed "Android System" as a full bar. I assume that it could be a bad app that was keeping my phone from sleeping.
I restarted the phone, battery pulled, charged up and uninstalled some apps. Everything seemed back to normal as when I checked the the running %, it was proportionate to how often I was using the phone (not at 100%). I specifically checked if the phone was sleeping and it was through some monitoring. I would use the phone for 1 minute and then let it sleep for 2 minutes and you could see that the running % went down, as it is suppose to.
I kept monitoring the running % over the course of the day and it was fine. The less I used it, the lower the % would go; the more I used it, the higher. I also monitored what kind of apps I was firing up and I specifically made it an effort to not open any apps that were out of the ordinary. If I did, I checked to see if it kept my phone from sleeping and it did not (through my same usage tests as above). However, even after my close monitoring, sometime during that day, my phone would stop sleeping once again. I could tell because my running % never lowered, no matter how long I didn't use my phone. It would keep climbing which means it no longer slept. I made sure that I didn't do anything out of the ordinary too as I used the same apps as I did when the phone was sleeping fine. I checked "Android System" and it was getting larger. The battery was around 80%.
I charged up the phone again to max and made sure that nothing was preventing my phone from sleeping. Did the tests again and running % was proportionate again and I double and tripled checked to make sure the phone slept. I then left the phone not charging again to see what would happen as I would have no interactions with the phone to open any apps or change any settings. To my surprise, my battery was down to 60% (~ 6 hours of sleeping) when I awoke. I checked the running % immediately in the morning and it was at a very high percentage. "Android System", once again, dominated the partial wakelock portion.
So what's going on here? It doesn't actually seem like I'm doing anything on the user end to prevent the phone from sleeping. How come it decides to act up all of a sudden? If it was a bad app, how come it decides to prevent sleeping all of a sudden and not before? Even if it was a bad app, I didn't even launch anything while sleeping. Does the phone decide all of a sudden to stop sleeping?
The apps I use are:
Tasker
Y5 Battery Saver
Launcher Pro Plus
Twitter
SwiftKey
NHL Gamecenter
Handcent SMS
doubleTwist
Dropbox
Does anyone have the same problem?
Any help is appreciated.
Get rid of any task killers and battery savers they do more harm then good and most developers recommend not using them, they cause battery drain. The only battery app I use is Juicedefender because it keeps the phone from connecting constantly and keeps apps from running in the backround. I set it to connect every 15 min for 1 minute to sync, I turned off all notifications because they annoy me and I don't need to be notified everytime I get an e-mail or someone posts on Twitter or FB. My battery life has improved greatly once I dumped task killer. Also, I am running a Froyo mod and my battery is amazing now and my GPS works.
If you are in an area with a weak signal this will kill your battery because your phone is constantly searching for a signal and trying to connect. Also turn off wifi if you are not near wifi this will save battery.
Also try calibrating your battery and bump charge it. Here is a link for that. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765656
The battery will improve, mine got better after a few weeks of break in. I am at 60% been unplugged since 10 am and I made plenty of calls, checked e-mails, sent e-mails, checked XDA developement all day and I have plenty of juice.
Good infos. O agree with not using task killer
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Hmm, thanks for the tips but there still seems to be something lingering around in my system that doesn't allow the phone to sleep. It seems to activate all of a sudden as well without user intervention.
I again left it overnight and it drained again when I woke up. I lose significant battery overnight when I sleep. I'm thinking about just restoring to factory settings. I've only had the phone for a week so I wouldn't lose that much data. I'll monitor it from the onset once I factory reset it and see if it's a hardware defect or something that was bad in my phone.
Do you have a live wallpaper installed? Also, do you have a bunch of Widgets on your homescreen? Are you constantly synching with e mail, FB, etc? No doubt something is running all night. It's not the phone, it's something you have installed. I set mine to sleep with Juice defender at night so nothing syncs. Check your wireless bill to see how much data is being sent while you sleep. Why not charge your phone while you sleep?
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Nope, no live wallpapers and the only widgets I have on my home screen are the LauncherPro Plus widgets, Smooth Calendar and BattStatt. The only syncing I have going on is Google Calendar and Gmail but both of those shouldn't cause the phone to not sleep.
I was thinking of using Juice Defender but I would rather just get to the root of whatever app is preventing my phone from sleeping and kill it at the root instead of finding workarounds. For all I know, my phone may not be sleeping not just overnight, but with normal use as well and it would adversely affect battery life throughout daily use. I need the piece of mind that my phone is properly sleeping.
And I have no issues with charging while I sleep, but again, I need to find the root cause. If for whatever reason I'm can't access a charger overnight in the future (such as if I sleep over at my gf's house), I want to know that I won't wake up with a dead battery in the morning.
I really appreciate the help though.
As for what I decided to do next, I actually factory restored my phone yesterday morning and so far it is working well. I did not download any apps at all to make sure that this problem didn't persist with a stock phone. If it did, I would know that it's a phone defect and not something I did. Throughout the next week, I'll be installing different apps one by one to see any one of those apps will cause my phone to not sleep. This will allow me to isolate the app. It's long and tedious, but I would go through it for better battery life. So far, it's been working as I'm already through 10 hours on my phone with moderate use and it's only at 50%. Whatever was destroying my battery before absolutely had an effect on my daily battery life as I would struggle to even get 10 hours on my phone with moderate use.
Same Here
I find your post very interesting. I have not yet used Juice defender, however, I am now more keen to battery drainage. I talked on the phone for about an hour the other day and my battery went from 100% to 40%. I find this unacceptable for a phone. Imagine taking conf. calls and conducting business in the field throughout the day. My battery would be dead in two hours without checking email
I hope you can reveal your findings to help us all.
Regards,
JROCK
Battery problem fixed using the simple technique similar to the one shared back in this thread.
I used to lose 10% per hour (or there abouts) and by 5 or 6pm needed to go on charger. At the very best with no use it dropped 3-5% in an hour.
Now its all changed...
After being off the charger for 35 min and taken 2 calls and sent a couple of txts she still read 100%.
At 5hrs 17min off the charger it is at 81% and there has been 6 calls in total and about 9 txts, plus a couple of appointments added.
Here is what they said to do and it worked...
1. Charge the phone for 8 hours, but make sure it is turned on while charging.
2. Unplug the phone, turn it off, plug it back in for 1 hour.
3. Unplug it, turn it back on for 2 minutes, then plug it back in for 1 hr.
Then unplug and enjoy the new battery life
Sounds too easy to work, but bugger me, it did!
27% is clearly abnormal.
Sometimes, I put the phone on it's charger after a pull day only using 27%.
I read somewhere on XDA that some early phones had defective screens that would only shut the backlight off and not turn off completely. Don't remember what came of that thread though.
I have a battery drain issue as well. My Captivate is 2 days old and been charging it every night. The first charge was done via the computer while transferring music over. After moderate usage (1 hour of music, browsing apps, learning how to use the phone, etc.), the battery died after 10 hours. GPS, and bluetooth was turned off. WiFi was used for maybe 20 minutes. When I got home, I charged it overnight for around 10 hours.
Today, the phone died on me after 9 hours. I rooted via z4root and applied RyanZa's latest OneClickLagFix, which both apps can be found on the market. Before that time, the battery said there was about 80% remaining. Fast forward to 6 hours later and the battery is gone. Again, moderate usage.
According to *#*#4636#*#*, my Screen On is at around 60%. A few other bars are pretty high as well, but I'm not sure how to do a screenshot on the Captivate right now. The only method I found requires using a PC. Plus, my battery is dead meaning I have to charge it overnight again.
I had an issue for the last couple of days, just figured it out earlier today. I had a corrupt thumbnail file on the external SD so my android.process.media (something like that) was constantly running.
I first realized something was wrong before I determined the battery life was bad when I noticed that my CPU was constantly at 11470-1200mhz or 975-1000 when I disabled the OC.
Unmounting the card would allow the CPU to drop to under 200 at idle so I knew it had something to do with the external SD. Turned out there was a bad file under a DCIM (camera folder), so after I deleted it, it became smooth as silk!
Of course it's still an i9000 rom so battery life is still questionable
geokilla said:
According to *#*#4636#*#*, my Screen On is at around 60%. A few other bars are pretty high as well, but I'm not sure how to do a screenshot on the Captivate right now. The only method I found requires using a PC. Plus, my battery is dead meaning I have to charge it overnight again.
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Sorry for the hijack!
Here are yesterday's results:
Does these results look normal to you? I'm particularly concerned about the Social Hub and screen, and running. They're all higher than I expected. The brightness of the screen is set pretty low, maybe 2/10 of the brightness bar. As for Social Hub, well all I got is the Facebook widget, which is set to sync every 4 hours. Other kinds of syncing is off. GPS is off too. I don't have any battery saving type of apps yet, except for RyanZa's OCLF which includes the WiFi timeout.
I ended up charging the phone at 5% battery left. I had to sleep!
Does anybody experience a 3% to 5% battery drain just a few minutes after charging the battery to 100%? It has already reached 100% so I already unplugged it from the charger, but then I noticed after a few minutes, it went down to 97% already, and then in 10 minutes, it's already down to 96%. In 3 hours, it's down to 84%; in 7 hours, it's down to 38% and that's just on standby mode with Wifi/Bluetooth OFF, 3G OFF, GSM only. I've been experiencing this problem for the past few days now. I've already conditioned my battery, charging it to a full charge (100%) after draining the battery until it shuts the phone off. I only charge the battery while the phone is off and usually it takes about 3 to 4 hours maximum to charge it to 100%.
The longest time it reached was 12 hours (battery unplugged from charger) and that is with light use, such as Wifi is only on for a couple of hours, so basically just 2 hours web browsing and skype, 10-20 text messages and 30 minutes to 1 hour browsing the photo gallery or watching videos. No phone calls and 3G is off. The rest of the day, the phone is just on standby mode. I only have at most 10 widgets on the home screen. I have Avast Antivirus running in the background.
I am currently using Easy Battery Saver, Easy Task Killer, GO Task Manager and Battery Monitor Widget. I've uninstalled Juice Defender since I don't think it helps that much when it comes to the battery drain. Currently, the power saving option (available on Note) is enabled at 50%.
Wifi and Bluetooth: OFF when not used
Use Packet Data and Data Roaming: OFF
Network Mode: GSM Only
Auto Sync: OFF
Auto Brightness (Display): OFF and scale is at the most left
Animation (Display): No Animations Shown
Screen Timeout: 30 seconds
Use Wireless Networks/GPS Satellites: OFF
Power Saving: ON at 50%
STOCK ROM (not rooted)
Android OS: 2.3.6
Baseband Version: N7000XXLA4
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-N7000XXLA6-CL907341
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Build Number: GINGERBREAD.XXLA6
Any feedback or comment on this matter would be really much appreciated. Thanks!
From a personal standpoint. Your screenshots shows that your phone had never ever done a deep sleep at all. the 'Awake' mode is continously consistent as well. I guess the probable reason for that is you've installed ''Avast AV" on your phone. It's always running in the background (whenever the phone is ON). From my experiences, Any background application running would always cause wakelocks and the phone would never enter into deep sleep at all.
How bout you try uninstalling some of the background apps your using esp. Avast AV and give it a day to observe if your still having that battery drain issue. (Don't forget after uninstalling or removing those apps, try to wipe dalvik cache and battery stat and restart your phone after.)
and Oh by the way, I am using Juice Defender and contrary to your saying it doesn't help.. IT DOES HELP save battery as I my Note is able to reach 1.5- 2 days of normal use.
Cheers!
Yeah and download betterbatterystats and do some searching on it. With it you can discover what is causing those wakelocks. Search the web for more info on your wakelocks.
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I'm using avast and never seen a drain like that. Only time I have is because of background processing. First thing I would do is turn off Background Data
Then as others have said - check batterystats to see where wakelocks are
Plus a rooted phone is a good thing. Titanium backup allowed me to freeze wi-fi sharing which also made a big difference
Finally - clear all caches from Applications menu and reboot
letters_to_cleo said:
From a personal standpoint. Your screenshots shows that your phone had never ever done a deep sleep at all. the 'Awake' mode is continously consistent as well.
Cheers!
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Only picture that shows that is the one with 1 minute 56 sec discharging time, so it was taken shortly after taking charger out. No suprise of it being almost 100% screen on time there if its only 2 minutes
Also installing "cpu spy" will give the cumulative time that your cpu spent at each frequency including deep sleep , mine is showing 88%
John.
Anti virus app is battery hog, I had avast before too, and I uninstalled it after 2 days using. Also that Juice defender, from my test before, it use up more battery than it saved. turning on and off those 3G/Wifi thing is using up alot of battery. and you know what? even the betterbatterystats use up alot, at least to me, becoz it scan what is up frequently.
Hello! Thank you all so much for your response. I've installed both BetterBatteryStats and CPU Spy and here are the results (please see attachments). Upon checking CPU Spy, it shows there that phone did went to deep sleep, maybe? I'm not quite sure, but it shows on the screenshot that it went to deep sleep for 19%. So does that mean the phone really went to sleep?? I'm sorry to ask this question, since I've never really encountered this problem before with my previous Samsung Wave phone, how will you know that your phone went straight to deep sleep mode?
Also, after 46 minutes or so, the battery went down to 96% already after charging it. The battery drain was already 4% in less than an hour.
@letters_to_cleo: I have not uninstalled Avast yet, since I'm still hesitant to use my phone without an AV. But I will try your suggestion for 1 day and see if there's any battery improvement.
I'm looking forward to your response or suggestions. Thanks again!
i am having problem too with new battery original samsung ( made in japan, finished in korea) previously i use samsung battery made in china, finished in korea. charged it over night with power off. it only last 13hrs. my wife phone can last 30hrs.
i've used batterymix to check the battery usage graph, the usage graph drop very fast compare to my wife phone. i'll post some screen capture of the graphs.
another issue is i used once wifi sharing. after turning switching the wifi sharing off, the wifi sharing service always at the background even after many reboot. how to turn that off??
You might need a new battery. Any rechargeable battery has a finite charging cycle. Just a suggestion.
Hi, all! I just noticed that the battery drains still even during deep sleep mode. After 3 hours or so (during sleep mode according to CPU Spy), the battery went down to 92%. It drains even faster when the phone is in use, especially when Wifi and Bluetooth are on, maybe 2-5% drain in 1 hour.
Maybe there's something wrong with the battery?? It's still a new battery and I can see some improvement each day though, but that's because I use it less each day. Before the battery can only last for 8-10 hours, then it increased to 12 hours, and then to 16-17 hours. BetterBatteryStats' current estimate to empty is 24 hours as of today, but that's because I only used the phone today for only a couple of hours, with 20 minutes Wifi and Bluetooth ON and most of the time, it's on deep sleep mode according to CPU Spy.
What do I do with the results from the Partial Wakelocks? Do I have to disable those apps?? The Kernel Wakelocks didn't show any reference apps running. The screenshots for the Partial and Kernel Wakelocks that were taken a few hours earlier still show the same results after 3 hours.
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You might need a new battery. Any rechargeable battery has a finite charging cycle. Just a suggestion.
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That would be really bad luck. I got my Note via preorder in Germany at the first day it was sold and since then I charged it everyday, sometimes even twice and there is no difference to the first day. If I get told by Samsung after 6month of normal usage the battery is dead that would be the last Samsung device I bought and I use a lot of Samsung stuff.
@ebichan24
Your last screenshots show between 9:35 and 13:35 5% of battery drain. That's not really a good value but ways lower than before. Did you delete some Apps or what did you change?
And since when occurred this issue? Did you install new Apps before this happened?
On my Note I had this issue sometimes without any changes but it was gone after a reboot.
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Agreed with Kanalcommander.... try a reboot in the first instance.
Others have also noted that it takes a few refresh cycles before the phone more accurately reports battery use. Perhaps what you are reporting is because the phone and battery are new (new ROM or Kernel loaded?)
What I have done in the past is to reboot into CWM recovery then clear the battery stats (in the Advanced menu option) Recharge the battery to 100% until it says to remove charger and then use normally until battery down to around 20%, then recharge the battery to 100% again. Do this over a few days and that may help.
thanks, it is new battery two days old.
ahhl said:
thanks, it is new battery two days old.
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I was having similar problems with my new note and finishing full charge in 12 hrs but fixed some things and my last charge gave me 2d6hr seriously..few things i did were stop using live wallpapers! Get badass battery to thoroughly monitor stats and then use zdbox to extend life even much eg. I put phone to auto flymode using that app when its sleeping time rest i am more than satisfied even if on GB LC1 fw..waiting for official premium suite for ics since i recently upgraded from sgs2 using ics i miss that smoothness and much better bat life.. Let me know if can be helpful.. Good luck
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@TempusFudgeIt
That's what I'm currently doing right now, well, actually, what I do is I discharge the battery until it reaches 0% and turns the phone off. And then I charge the phone for 3 hours while it's switched off, I turn it back on again to check if the battery is fully charged and then I unplug it from the charger.
@Kanalcommander
**Did you delete some Apps or what did you change?
I haven't deleted any apps yet since I don't know which app/s to delete. Most of the apps I downloaded in Note were the same apps that I used in my iPhone4 and Samsung phone before.
**And since when occurred this issue?
This issue occurred since the first day I bought the phone, which was a couple of weeks ago. How long does it take to condition a new battery and new phone?? I'm sorry if I have to ask this question, it's just because I never really experienced this problem with my previous smartphones.
**Did you install new Apps before this happened? On my Note I had this issue sometimes without any changes but it was gone after a reboot.
I only installed recently CPU Spy and BetterBatteryStats and that's it. The drain of 5% from 9:35 to 13:35, the phone's just on deep sleep mode. And then from 13:35 to 23:44, it went from 92% to 74% while the phone is on deep sleep mode at 90% according to CPU Spy. That's 18% battery drain. It's just an unacceptable number for me. I tried rebooting the phone already, but every time I do so, just a few minutes after I turned the phone ON, there's already a 1% drain in the battery.
Also, does the battery really drain faster when the Wifi is ON? I've read in other threads that there might be some problem with the recent OS update that Samsung needs to address. Is this true?? Because as you can see on the screenshot below, the battery was still at 74% by 23:44 and then after I turned ON the Wifi and used it until 01:26, the battery went down to 54%. That's already a 20% battery drain in just less than 2 hours. I was only browsing through the Android Store and Skype.
Calibrate your battery in case you flashed any roms and for first usage I got my battery to 0% 3 times then everything is running great for example its at 47% now its 22 now and I have had it off charge since 7 morning..... i have wifi gps and 3g always on and use music player bluetooth and made some calls
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My battery (also only a week old) drains quickly too. Can anyone tell me if widgets draw a lot of current? And then is it only the ones on the visible screen or do all widgets draw juice all the time?
I will ask such thing, did you guys check the battery expiration day ? Mostly sibce you got your phone almost a yeae after it was announced you nay get a bad battery, as for widgets the ones that are always active and asking for informatiom. Like location or weather over the internet yes they do eat your battery kinda fast.
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Recurring battery drain? - Caused by memory of using app to drain battery?
Hello!
I used a battery drain app when charge left was 30% to accelerate drain to "die out" stage. After I completed the calibration process for unrooted phone as suggested in various sites (charge fully, switch off and charge etc.) I started using it from a 100% stage.
This afternoon when the battery showed 30% I saw in BMW the current flow was in -10ma to -15ma and it started spiking to hundreds. There was no change in settings or usage. From the 30% level it dropped to 10% in an hour and I had to charge again.
Was puzzled why the battery which was dropping around 0.5%/hour in standby earlier to the 30% level suddenly went down hill. My first guess was it was possible some file in the system remembered the previous usage history and replayed it out.
Any suggestions? Anyone faced this before? Everyone says LiOn batteries dont have memory so if anything it has to be the phone.
Thanks!
Hi
I think I might have an issue with the battery on an xperia sp which I got a few days ago. When idle with stamina on it's loosing between 1-2% per hour. I've used Gsam and recorded some stats to show what's using up the battery when the phone is not in use. Hope it makes some sense
loosing ~2% per hour phone in idle screen off
Stamina on, GSM only
Tried airplane, not much difference
Tried Stamina off, no difference
Charged to 95%
61% @ 10:16PM
34% battery use - of that
screen 56.3% (1hr 47min)
phone radio 6.5%
wifi 3.7%
apps 33.3%
TOTAL DRAIN ON BATTERY
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19% screen (avg 0.18% per minute)
2% phone radio
1.2% wifi
11% apps
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13 HOURS IDLE LATER - 17-20% BATTERY GONE
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44% @ 11.04AM(QUICKLY DROPPED TO 41% in around 2
minutes)
51% battery use - of that
screen 49.8% (1hr 48min)
radio 13.1%
wifi 7.4%
apps 29.6%
TOTAL DRAIN ON BATTERY
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screen 25.4% (WHY THE INCREASE of 6.4% when OFF all the time?)
radio 6.6% (+4.6%)
wifi 3.78% (+2.58%)
apps 14.8% (+3.4%, not sure why, stamina turns off all apps?)
6.4 + 4.6 + 2.6 + 3.4 = 17%
Why are these using up so much power in idle with stamina mode on?
Hello,
remove your simcard, reboot, got in to flightmode and let Wifi enabled.
now let phone unused for 8hours. its all Ok then accu should drain only 0,05%/h.
This is my XSP which i use only as alarmclock an every day 1 hour as Musicplayer.
I have tried without the sim card but it didn't do anything.
I notice in your screenshot though that there is no connection to 'mobilfunknetzsignal' ... mine is there even when the sim card is out, how did you get rid of it?
spix123 said:
... even when the sim card is out, how did you get rid of it?
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You must enable the flightmode under "settings->network->more" .
and then please install BetterBatteryStats to see if you have wakelocks and your device go in to deepsleep after turn of the screen.
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You must enable the flightmode under "settings->network->more" .
and then please install BetterBatteryStats to see if you have wakelocks and your device go in to deepsleep after turn of the screen.
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Ah yes.. I tried flight mode one night and it still lost 15%
I have also used wakelock detector and it says phone is in deep sleep 99 percent of the time but still the battery is draining 1-2% per hour
Right now the battery is 27% down from 44% 2 hours ago... and I have hardly used it. I'll recharge and try again without turning screen on at all and see whats using it up.
Is there any explanation why the screen used 6.4% of the battery overnight when it was off all the time?
I'm too having about same problem..and am really interested in answer/solution,,,
Please, anyone?
I think I have fixed it but not sure. Phone was charged 24 hours ago to 99%, now its 94%. Definitely not using alot of power with stamina mode now but the screen was only used for 5-10 minutes, I've yet to test if it acts the same after screen has been used for a long time before going idle.
What I did was run phone setup again and update all apps
Now 88% after 40 hours, screen on for 25 minutes. Xperias battery monitor and gsam show completely different usage, android system takes up the majority in the xperia one but only 10% in gsam (under apps)
I checked wakelock detector and something called 'syncloopwakelock' was on for 4 and half hours. Is there any way to disable this? I already have auto sync in settings turned off.
A phone is meant to be used. Using it only from time to time to have as much standby time as possible is just a waste of a good phone.
I can get two days with heavy use. A lot of music, whatsapp, facebook and XDA Premium app..
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A phone is meant to be used. Using it only from time to time to have as much standby time as possible is just a waste of a good phone.
I can get two days with heavy use. A lot of music, whatsapp, facebook and XDA Premium app..
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I know, but there was a clear issue before as the battery was draining 20 percent overnight reducing the time I can actually use it. I was getting 5 hours screen on time one day, and only 2 hours the next. Just trying to make sure it has stopped, seems like it has
Would like to solve this syncloop thing though. I have no interest in syncing any accounts as I don't use them.
Simple fix
Change your rom, stock rom eats so much battery and has so many bloats, apps keep running in the background all sony apps.
MIUI is on jellybean and it gives me average of 1 day 20hours on normal use with wifi always on and sim card inserted..texting call and stuff
Problem has returned, woke up today to find battery under 50% and it was at least 75% when I went to sleep. Wakelock detector doesn't show anything and says phone was asleep all the time. Sony's battery graph though shows the phone was awake most of the time, but I can't find the cause in GSam or wakelock detector.
i think i have a idea. it can come from WiFi. there is a bug in all android 4.1. Set Wifi to allways on and deactivate/delete LocationBasedWiFi app from sony.
you can found it with BetterBatteryStats under Process.
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in this screenshoots the problem is not shown. When it comes from WiFi driver it is not a app that drain the accu, but a process.
The Line with awake in history details you can ignore, its buggy in 4.1.
I have searched through everything in Wakelock Detector and only process I found with alot of time is syncloopwakelock which is 4.5 hours. But this was already about 4 hours when battery was 85%
If I buy BetterBatteryStats will this show the problem? As you an see it drained at slow rate for 2 days then suddenly started dropping faster yesterday. I made no changes to Wifi settings, it is always on ... and I use Stamina mode.
Yes BBS will show the problem as "wifistatemachine", if the error should really be come from. you must not buy it, search on XDA for apk.
but if it come from your syncloopwakelock then i can not help.
Holy crap
I charged the phone to 96%, used it for 30 min (down to 92 percent) then went to sleep. Woke up and it was 28% and kept dropping !!! I've checked BBS, Gsam and I can't find the cause... again. After uploading these SS its at 12 percent.
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Hi guys, I am using stock Rogers Moto X and just upgraded to Kitkat. While enjoying the improved response time on Kitkat, I noticed that the standby time(everything off except radio signal) on this phone consumed more juice than on Jellybean. When running on JB, it used to consume about 5% every 10 hours with wakeup time less than 3% showing on Wakeuplock. However, it now consumes about 5% for every 6-7 hours!!
Therefore, I downloaded Wakeuplock, GSam battery monitor, and Betterbattery stats to collect some info. Although their functionality are very much limited under Kitkat, they still can collect kernel wakelocks info except Wakeuplock. The results were collected after I charged my phone to 86% and turning off everything except radio. Time period was 7 hours and 15 mins. See my results on attachments.
You can see that on Betterbattery stats it shows everything was alright. Deep sleep time was 99.3% and awake time was 0.7%. Deep sleep time was very satisfactory. While on the Wakeuplock, it showed awake time was 26%! Although I think it did not reset the time to 0 after I unplug my charger so it probably not that accurate but should be at least 15% of awake time. It also cannot display anymore details under Kitkat. Last but not least, on GSam battery monitor, the result shows pm8921_eoc was keeping the phone awake for 1 hour and 4 min for the duration of 7 hours and 31 min which makes 14% of awake time alone. I have never seen pm8921_eoc this high on my kernel wakelocks. I did not download any new apps(except these wakelock apps) or change any setting to my apps after the Kitkat update so it shouldn't be my apps that causing it.
So what is pm8921_eoc exactly? And how should I reduce its waking up times?
SimplyDF said:
Hi guys, I am using stock Rogers Moto X and just upgraded to Kitkat. While enjoying the improved response time on Kitkat, I noticed that the standby time(everything off except radio signal) on this phone consumed more juice than on Jellybean. When running on JB, it used to consume about 5% every 10 hours with wakeup time less than 3% showing on Wakeuplock. However, it now consumes about 5% for every 6-7 hours!!
Therefore, I downloaded Wakeuplock, GSam battery monitor, and Betterbattery stats to collect some info. Although their functionality are very much limited under Kitkat, they still can collect kernel wakelocks info except Wakeuplock. The results were collected after I charged my phone to 86% and turning off everything except radio. Time period was 7 hours and 15 mins. See my results on attachments.
You can see that on Betterbattery stats it shows everything was alright. Deep sleep time was 99.3% and awake time was 0.7%. Deep sleep time was very satisfactory. While on the Wakeuplock, it showed awake time was 26%! Although I think it did not reset the time to 0 after I unplug my charger so it probably not that accurate but should be at least 15% of awake time. It also cannot display anymore details under Kitkat. Last but not least, on GSam battery monitor, the result shows pm8921_eoc was keeping the phone awake for 1 hour and 4 min for the duration of 7 hours and 31 min which makes 14% of awake time alone. I have never seen pm8921_eoc this high on my kernel wakelocks. I did not download any new apps(except these wakelock apps) or change any setting to my apps after the Kitkat update so it shouldn't be my apps that causing it.
So what is pm8921_eoc exactly? And how should I reduce its waking up times?
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Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36736462&postcount=7049
And don't try to downgrade as it not possible, its a one upgrade
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
flashallthetime said:
Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36736462&postcount=7049
And don't try to downgrade as it is possible, its a one upgrade
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Thank you so much! Guess it's just Kitkat draining more battery.
flashallthetime said:
Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36736462&postcount=7049
And don't try to downgrade as it not possible, its a one upgrade
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Its not that bad compared to 4.4 Anne it always takes a few cycles to see how your battery actual is
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
You're getting less than 1 percent per hour drain....that's better than most. There's no issue. Be thankful.
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Hello people
I bought z3compact, and I started to have big problems with battery drain, I tried to downgrade on 5.0.2, then tried factory, then 6.0.1 beta, and at least I tried custom rom Lolipop Slim and everytime is same story, I barely had one day battery juice, and when i go to sleep, I lose more than 20% thorough the night, when I go to settings number one in battery using is Cell standby, SOT I have barely 2 hours.
Is there any help, I think the radio is problem.
Thank you very much
tigra16 said:
Hello people
I bought z3compact, and I started to have big problems with battery drain, I tried to downgrade on 5.0.2, then tried factory, then 6.0.1 beta, and at least I tried custom rom Lolipop Slim and everytime is same story, I barely had one day battery juice, and when i go to sleep, I lose more than 20% thorough the night, when I go to settings number one in battery using is Cell standby, SOT I have barely 2 hours.
Is there any help, I think the radio is problem.
Thank you very much
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Check the mobile radio active time in the apps that show the greatest battery drain. If any of them are more than an hour when you're sleeping, then the big has bitten you. Connect to wifi as a workaround. There's also a supposed fix for the mobile radio active bug somewhere on XDA. Try searching and food luck!
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so I tried everything, and the result is that when mobile goes to sleep I have to many wakelocks, around 3500 wakelocks in one night, but when screen is on i have on 10 percent around 1 hour of SOT, please help me
tigra16 said:
so I tried everything, and the result is that when mobile goes to sleep I have to many wakelocks, around 3500 wakelocks in one night, but when screen is on i have on 10 percent around 1 hour of SOT, please help me
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Look at which apps are using the most battery under settings/power management/battery usage.
UNINSTALL facebook, which will be the biggest eater of battery, access it through the webpage
If you have a rooted phone, install AFWall., then restrict whatsapp,twitter,*messging apps* to wifi only, see if that makes a difference. Once you see a difference in batterybehavior, slowly let them back onto mobile data one at a time until you find the culprit (whatsapp probably)
Google Play Services is a usual suspect. Start by turning off synchronise on your google account.
There's a fix for google here.
If you have poor reception of mobile signal in your house, trying turning the phone to GSM.
Settings/wifi/advanced wifi - scanning always available OFF - keep wifi on during sleep ONLY WHEN PLUGGED IN
Research on the BBS thread
If you have a rooted phone download Disableservice from the playstore.
Once it's installed, open the system tab, open Google Play Services, then untick (disable) the following:
ConfigFetchService
FitnessSyncAdapterService
GoogleLocationManagerService
GoogleLocationService
NetworkLocationService
ProximitySettingInjectorService
UserPresenceService
WearableControlService
WearableService
WearableSyncService
then reboot your phone.
Disabling these from running should have no impact on your phone, it doesn't for me, and will give you 10-15% more battery life.
The other thing that extended my battery life was deleting the cached data. Settings\Storage and hold down on Cached data until you get a popup asking you to delete it. I know it sounds bizarre, but it really worked.
As a last resort you could try amplify as it is good at reducing wakelocks, but to get it running requires xposed as well as entering lots and lots of changes to the phone timings, getting these wrong will stuff your phone! Beware
tigra16 said:
Hello people
I bought z3compact, and I started to have big problems with battery drain, I tried to downgrade on 5.0.2, then tried factory, then 6.0.1 beta, and at least I tried custom rom Lolipop Slim and everytime is same story, I barely had one day battery juice, and when i go to sleep, I lose more than 20% thorough the night, when I go to settings number one in battery using is Cell standby, SOT I have barely 2 hours.
Is there any help, I think the radio is problem.
Thank you very much
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There's an extremely great guide here on XDA on how to save battery Here check this out
It incorporates Greenify which is used to hibernate apps, Amplify which is to limit wakelocks and many more, personally Ive been noticing a great improvement, I only lose 1% per 8 hours per night of sleep
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So I tried everything that you wrote, and last hope was KITKAT, and baterry is little bit better but not enough, barely I can use it one day, so when I am on sleep battery % drops quite fast, about 4% per hour, but when I have screen on I have 20- 25 minute in 10 % of battery. do you think it is battery bad or software bug?
Thank you
So guys i put marshmallow, and when the screen is on all day i have 6 h of SOT, but when it sleeps i have barely 1-2 h SOT, what the hell is going on with my phone
Screen on time measures just that, the amount of time the screen is on. You can drain the battery by playing music all day and get 0 hours of screen on time. It is not and should not be used as an indicator of battery life. Send us another screen shot of your usage statistics
Sent from the only flagship device that can fit in my hand... Sony Experia Z3 Compact