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Many of you have heard by now that 5.1.1 is out, and we should receive an update soon on our stock rom Nexus 6. I just bought a Nexus 6 64gb, XT1103, and it is running the stock rom, rooted, and un-encrypted. I'm wondering if we'll lose root and un-encrypt if we take the update, and loose data if we re-unencrypt. What have your experiences been on the stock rom 5.1 update?
bovineyard said:
Many of you have heard by now that 5.1.1 is out, and we should receive an update soon on our stock rom Nexus 6. I just bought a Nexus 6 64gb, XT1103, and it is running the stock rom, rooted, and un-encrypted. I'm wondering if we'll lose root and un-encrypt if we take the update, and loose data if we re-unencrypt. What have your experiences been on the stock rom 5.1 update?
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While the update will download, it will not install with root and an unencrypted kernel.
IF you want to take the OTA, then you will need to fastboot flash the boot.img and system.img from the factory image. Boot.img will encrypt your kernel, but you will not loose data (but you will have to factory reset, again, if you want to unencrypt, which will wipe data). Flashing the system.img will remove root and flash stock recovery.
cam30era said:
While the update will download, it will not install with root and an unencrypted kernel.
IF you want to take the OTA, then you will need to fastboot flash the boot.img and system.img from the factory image. Boot.img will encrypt your kernel, but you will not loose data (but you will have to factory reset, again, if you want to unencrypt, which will wipe data). Flashing the system.img will remove root and flash stock recovery.
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i think with root but encrypted will do the update
HitNrun_ said:
i think with root but encrypted will do the update
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Nope, not on Lollipop. Kitkat and before, yes. Not anymore.
cam30era said:
Nope, not on Lollipop. Kitkat and before, yes. Not anymore.
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so unroot and encypted will do the trick? what about the bootloader, will it work with unlocked or should it be relocked too?
5.1.1 is NOT officially out for the nexus 6. it is in aosp though. thats two differing things. stock is on 5.1.
HitNrun_ said:
so unroot and encypted will do the trick? what about the bootloader, will it work with unlocked or should it be relocked too?
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The OTA package only looks at system.img and boot.img. Of course you need stock recovery to install it. And the "unroot" option inside SuperSU is insufficient. It leaves some traces around that will prevent the OTA from loading. Flash the stock system.img.
And afterwards, when unencrypting, you'll have to fastboot format userdata. Which will wipe your SDcard again.
HitNrun_ said:
so unroot and encypted will do the trick? what about the bootloader, will it work with unlocked or should it be relocked too?
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Bootloader status has no effect on the OTA.
I have rooted, but encrypted 5.1, and got OTA5 5.1.1, I am on custom recovery,
should I flash stock recovery before flashing? plus, after installing, I will need to regain root access right? my data/apps will stay intact right?
ibraheeemz said:
I have rooted, but encrypted 5.1, and got OTA5 5.1.1, I am on custom recovery,
should I flash stock recovery before flashing? plus, after installing, I will need to regain root access right? my data/apps will stay intact right?
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As it says above, you cannot FLASH the update if you are rooted, even with a stock recovery.
You will have to flash the system.img and boot.img of the Stock factory image. IF the full factory image of the version you want is available here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
...download it, extract the system and boot.img and fastboot flash them. Job done. If the version you need is only available in an OTA file, you'll need to flash the system and boot of the expected version (i.e. the one you're on now) AND flash the recovery to accept the OTA
danarama said:
As it says above, you cannot receive the update if you are rooted, even with a stock recovery.
You will have to flash the system.img and boot.img of the Stock factory image. IF the full factory image of the version you want is available here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
...download it, extract the system and boot.img and fastboot flash them. Job done. If the version you need is only available in an OTA file, you'll need to flash the system and boot of the expected version (i.e. the one you're on now) AND flash the recovery to accept the OTA
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I am using a custom recovery, on a rooted but STOCK 5.1, and I already got OTA, I downloaded it as well, but needed to make sure before upgrading, that it doesn't cause data lose if I move to stock recovery, and want to regain root after flashing 5.1.1,
anyway, i flashed stock recovery, then proceeded with the update, it tried flashing but showed "error" at the android screen, so, I don't whats missing, as I was using stock 5.1, just unlocked it, rooted it, and flashed customer recovery,
ibraheeemz said:
I am using a custom recovery, on a rooted but STOCK 5.1, and I already got OTA, I downloaded it as well, but needed to make sure before upgrading, that it doesn't cause data lose if I move to stock recovery, and want to regain root after flashing 5.1.1,
anyway, i flashed stock recovery, then proceeded with the update, it tried flashing but showed "error" at the android screen, so, I don't whats missing, as I was using stock 5.1, just unlocked it, rooted it, and flashed customer recovery,
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When I said receive, I meant flash. You cannot FLASH the update if you are rooted. Period. Read my post again but substitute the word receive for flash.
danarama said:
When I said receive, I meant flash. You cannot FLASH the update if you are rooted. Period. Read my post again but substitute the word receive for flash.
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got it, but still looking for the answer, will I loose data after flashing system.img? or while regaining root after 5.1.1 update?
ibraheeemz said:
got it, but still looking for the answer, will I loose data after flashing system.img? or while regaining root after 5.1.1 update?
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No. Only factory reset or unlocking the bootloader loses data. System.img is the rom, flashing to /system. Boot.img is the kernel, flashing to /boot. if you flash these separately, userdata.img is not flashed to /data, so your /data partition remains in tact.
root doesn't touch /data either. Just /system
HitNrun_ said:
i think with root but encrypted will do the update
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How do you get root while leaving it encrypted?
Arfyness said:
How do you get root while leaving it encrypted?
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No OTA update will flash with any mods to system, boot, or recovery. No way, no how.
Evolution_Tech said:
No OTA update will flash with any mods to system, boot, or recovery. No way, no how.
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Yeahhh I get that now. It's got to verify that what's already there matches what it's supposed to be updating.
I'm looking here because I'm on Fi now, and there are more implications there than I realized before. Not that those matter too much, I do want stock. Just trying to see how I can stay current, be rooted, and not break Fi. Thankfully it's a Nexus device so it's not throwing up insane device restrictions blocking root access.
I want to be able to update system and boot, as they come available, with a recovery like TWRP or CWM. Then reapply SuperSU flash after that. What I'm not sure of is whether I can even do that. I'm fuzzy on the whole " encrypted device" thing. Does that apply to the images at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#shamu
Would I be hosed if I took the system and boot images and flash those to update from one version to the next?
Arfyness said:
Yeahhh I get that now. It's got to verify that what's already there matches what it's supposed to be updating.
I'm looking here because I'm on Fi now, and there are more implications there than I realized before. Not that those matter too much, I do want stock. Just trying to see how I can stay current, be rooted, and not break Fi. Thankfully it's a Nexus device so it's not throwing up insane device restrictions blocking root access.
I want to be able to update system and boot, as they come available, with a recovery like TWRP or CWM. Then reapply SuperSU flash after that. What I'm not sure of is whether I can even do that. I'm fuzzy on the whole " encrypted device" thing. Does that apply to the images at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#shamu
Would I be hosed if I took the system and boot images and flash those to update from one version to the next?
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You absolutely can, it's just that if you wish to decrypt, you'll have to format data. I've had this device, since launch and I'm still encrypted. Not an issue for me. But you can just flash, individually, everything but userdata and keep your data intact, each time a new image becomes available. Then just flash TWRP and then SuoerSu from TWRP. If you've unencrypted, OTA won't flash. You can always update manually.
edit - this was a duplicate. i can't delete it.
Evolution_Tech said:
You absolutely can, it's just that if you wish to decrypt, you'll have to format data. I've had this device, since launch and I'm still encrypted. Not an issue for me. But you can just flash, individually, everything but userdata and keep your data intact, each time a new image becomes available. Then just flash TWRP and then SuoerSu from TWRP. If you've unencrypted, OTA won't flash. You can always update manually.
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Oohhh, wait, so flash from fastboot, except flash SuperSU from TWRP? (update.zip style?) Is only the data partition encrypted then? If that's the case why are folks decrypting? Unlocking the bootloader requires it, but what is that required for?
And thank you loads BTW! I'm so far behind! I'm coming off 3 years of rooted, stable SGS3 stock, last updated to 4.1.2. There were no further stock updates that I wanted, (too many bugs) and everything was working so I left well enough alone.
(I probably would have messed about with CM and other roms, if I had not initially bricked the thing trying to put TWRP on... and had to send it for somebody to JTAG reprogram it. Thought about it several times, but never wanted to chance it again.)
Thanks again!
Hey guys
My N6 received the OTA update 2 days ago, I live in Australia and my device is rooted. I have downloaded the update then tried to restart and install for the first attempt, and off course it fails because am rooted. I have flashed the stock recovery.img and redownloaded it again, another failure. I have downloaded the OTA for the 3rd time and went to cache folder and took the "update.zip", then tried to flash it using TWRP and it failed. I have also tried the adb sideload and also failed. Below there is the pictures for the sideload procedure. What is puzzling me is that my phone build is "LMY47I" and what I receive is "LMY47Z" , so how can I apply this "update.zip" without wiping my system, I am already running on the stock image but it's rooted. I hope someone can help me out here, thanks everyone.:good::good:
I'm not sure you can be rooted on lollipop to take updates. That could be the problem. Try unrooting.
flash your current versions stock system.img. Lollipop updates don't patch files like the older updates, it does block level patching of the /system so you can't have any changes or the update will fail. On previous versions you could add files to /system and an update would patch the stock /system files and not care you had added other files. Now they patch at the block level so you can't add/delete files, you have to have a 100% untouched /system to take an update.
Download the factory image of what your phone is currently running. Fastboot flash the system.img and then take the OTA. You can then root after updated.
You could also just download the LMY47Z factory image and flash the bootloader, boot.img and system.img and be good to go (root again after). As long as you don't flash the userdata.img or wipe data you retain all your settings/apps/files.
vampire_8_7 said:
Hey guys
My N6 received the OTA update 2 days ago, I live in Australia and my device is rooted. I have downloaded the update then tried to restart and install for the first attempt, and off course it fails because am rooted. I have flashed the stock recovery.img and redownloaded it again, another failure. I have downloaded the OTA for the 3rd time and went to cache folder and took the "update.zip", then tried to flash it using TWRP and it failed. I have also tried the adb sideload and also failed. Below there is the pictures for the sideload procedure. What is puzzling me is that my phone build is "LMY47I" and what I receive is "LMY47Z" , so how can I apply this "update.zip" without wiping my system, I am already running on the stock image but it's rooted. I hope someone can help me out here, thanks everyone.:good::good:
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You don't.
YOU obtain the full factory system image from https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
doitright said:
You don't.
YOU obtain the full factory system image from https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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tcrews said:
flash your current versions stock system.img. Lollipop updates don't patch files like the older updates, it does block level patching of the /system so you can't have any changes or the update will fail. On previous versions you could add files to /system and an update would patch the stock /system files and not care you had added other files. Now they patch at the block level so you can't add/delete files, you have to have a 100% untouched /system to take an update.
Download the factory image of what your phone is currently running. Fastboot flash the system.img and then take the OTA. You can then root after updated.
You could also just download the LMY47Z factory image and flash the bootloader, boot.img and system.img and be good to go (root again after). As long as you don't flash the userdata.img or wipe data you retain all your settings/apps/files.
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Thanks tcrews
I still have the stock image for the 5.1 om my PC so if I used fastboot to flash the system and radio and bootloader, this won't delete any of my apps or my system??
vampire_8_7 said:
Thanks tcrews
I still have the stock image for the 5.1 om my PC so if I used fastboot to flash the system and radio and bootloader, this won't delete any of my apps or my system??
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Hey doitright
So I can download the 5.1.1 (For Sprint, USC ONLY) (LMY47Z) even tho its saying US Only, and this was the one I received on the system update!!!
vampire_8_7 said:
Thanks tcrews
I still have the stock image for the 5.1 om my PC so if I used fastboot to flash the system and radio and bootloader, this won't delete any of my apps or my system??
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To "restore" your system to stock, you just need to flash the system.img and recovery.img to take the OTA. To "update" your system to the next version with factory images you would flash bootloader, restart the bootloader, flash the radio, restart the bootloader then flash boot.img and system.img and then reboot the phone. Re-root after.
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Thanks to everyone, all done now, and special thanks to "tcrews" all sorted out now mate, I used fastboot to flash 5.1 (recovery, bootloader, boot and system) then did the same thing for the 5.1.1. I didn't lose any data or apps all working perfectly fine. I had to "Root" the device after, then flashed the "Xposed Firmware". :good: :good:
Yes, thanks as well! I had this issue when the OTA showed up on my Nexus 6 yesterday. Did what vampire_8_7 indicated above, and everything is working with no loss of data or apps. Thanks everyone!
Hi Guys,
very sorry to bump this thread, but i've been trying for 2 days now to follow your instructions to update to 5.1.1 and its failing.
i have a rooted 5.1 using TeamWin software and custom ROM (LMY47D)
can i get a step by step on how to flash the 5.1.1 OTA ?
i tried to reflash 5.1 stock and it failed as well, no idea if i'm doing something wrong.
thanks in advance.
mar1nasr said:
Hi Guys,
very sorry to bump this thread, but i've been trying for 2 days now to follow your instructions to update to 5.1.1 and its failing.
i have a rooted 5.1 using TeamWin software and custom ROM (LMY47D)
can i get a step by step on how to flash the 5.1.1 OTA ?
i tried to reflash 5.1 stock and it failed as well, no idea if i'm doing something wrong.
thanks in advance.
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You cannot flash the OTA. You can only flash stock. I also have no idea if you're doing something wrong. Probably though, that is usually the case.
vampire_8_7 said:
Hey guys
My N6 received the OTA update 2 days ago, I live in Australia and my device is rooted. I have downloaded the update then tried to restart and install for the first attempt, and off course it fails because am rooted. I have flashed the stock recovery.img and redownloaded it again, another failure. I have downloaded the OTA for the 3rd time and went to cache folder and took the "update.zip", then tried to flash it using TWRP and it failed. I have also tried the adb sideload and also failed. Below there is the pictures for the sideload procedure. What is puzzling me is that my phone build is "LMY47I" and what I receive is "LMY47Z" , so how can I apply this "update.zip" without wiping my system, I am already running on the stock image but it's rooted. I hope someone can help me out here, thanks everyone.:good::good:
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- Fastboot erase system
- Fastboot flash system system.img
- Fastboot flash boot boot.img if you have a custom kernel
- Fastboot flash recovery recovery.img if you have a custom recovery
- Fastboot erase cache and then fastboot flash cache cache.img.
Reboot and sideload the OTA and that should do it because you still have have modified system files on your phone.
mar1nasr said:
Hi Guys,
very sorry to bump this thread, but i've been trying for 2 days now to follow your instructions to update to 5.1.1 and its failing.
i have a rooted 5.1 using TeamWin software and custom ROM (LMY47D)
can i get a step by step on how to flash the 5.1.1 OTA ?
i tried to reflash 5.1 stock and it failed as well, no idea if i'm doing something wrong.
thanks in advance.
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Hey mate
The idea is to go complete stock before you flash any OTA, and this can be achieved by just flashing the "System.img" and the "bootloader.img" file to you device.
DON'T FORGET TO TAKE A FULL BACKUP Note: This warning above is more precaution thing, and this method never wiped any data but its good to have the backup always.
You need to download the official stock image for your device, if you have that's fine keep reading through.
Factory Images
You have to extract the image and get the "system.img" and "bootloader.img"
Copy and Paste the "System.img" and "bootloader.img" files in the fastboot folder.
Open the cmd as admin navigate to the directory where the fastboot resides, then start typing these commands.
fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-XXXX.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
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fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
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Now you have to copy (Boot.img , bootloader.img, system.img and the radio.img) from the OTA image you have and paste it in the fastboot folder, then you will run the previous 2 commands in addition to these 2 commands below.
fastboot flash radio radio-XXX-XXX.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
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After performing this you should have 5.1.1 on your device without wiping any of your personal data or apps.
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Thanks a million for the step by step. i think my stock 5.1 is the issue. i'll download the factory image and try again now.
cheers,
EDIT: just finished, and it seems my old 5.1 image was crap. i downloaded a new factory image and did what you mentioned above. now running 5.1.1 and all my old data is there. thanks again, appreciate your time.
mar1nasr said:
Thanks a million for the step by step. i think my stock 5.1 is the issue. i'll download the factory image and try again now.
cheers,
EDIT: just finished, and it seems my old 5.1 image was crap. i downloaded a new factory image and did what you mentioned above. now running 5.1.1 and all my old data is there. thanks again, appreciate your time.
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No Problems bro. Happy to hear that it worked. XDA is always the place where you can get help
another update for those using TWRP.
TWRP recovery 2.8.7.0 cannot decrypt data for recovery mode, and the 5.1.1 udpate comes encrypted. only way to decrypt is to factory wipe if your device is encrypted and the patternlock/pin doesnt work.
TWRP released 2.8.7.1 yesterday that fixes this issue. this saved me from factory wipe and starting from scratch. also no data needed to be wiped.
^^ just in case anyone is running into the same issue.
cheers,
mar1nasr said:
another update for those using TWRP.
TWRP recovery 2.8.7.0 cannot decrypt data for recovery mode, and the 5.1.1 udpate comes encrypted. only way to decrypt is to factory wipe if your device is encrypted and the patternlock/pin doesnt work.
TWRP released 2.8.7.1 yesterday that fixes this issue. this saved me from factory wipe and starting from scratch. also no data needed to be wiped.
^^ just in case anyone is running into the same issue.
cheers,
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All official updates encrypt.
tcrews said:
To "restore" your system to stock, you just need to flash the system.img and recovery.img to take the OTA. .
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Hi,
Can I ask for more details how to flash the system.img and recovery.img ? From where to download it and how to flash?
I have rooted Nexus 6 5.1 Verizon
Thanks
ikirilenko said:
Hi,
Can I ask for more details how to flash the system.img and recovery.img ? From where to download it and how to flash?
I have rooted Nexus 6 5.1 Verizon
Thanks
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I always place these img`s in the /android/sdk/platform-tools/ folder, or extract them and right-click/shift copy to path. Then with cmd in fastboot erase system then flash system system.img and fastboot flash recovery recovery.img. Dowloadlink below in my signature Phantasmagoria and extract the downloaded file until you see the img`s.
gee2012 said:
Then with cmd in fastboot erase system then flash system system.img
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Out of curiosity, why do you erase system first?
Hi There
Using this rom by Danvdh (6.0.1 MMB29K):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-5-1lightromstock-lmy47e-03-19-2015-t3059493
1) Is there a difference between the original one from Google to that rom?
2) OP mentioned that there is an updated recovery flashable releases of stock rooted Android.
It mean that it actually like an OTA updates?
3) What is the process if I want to move from rom such as the one mentioned here to a stock by Google and stay rooted?
Thanks!
1. Read the build information in the OP of the thread, it mentions all the differences.
2. It's the full stock FW but recovery flashable instead of fastboot and also rooted.
3. You would need to fastboot stock FW and manually root or flash the recovery flashable stock FW the was mentioned in question no. 2.
1) "100% untouched stock framework" Would actually be and act the same as a real stock from from(Factory Image) developers.google.com?
2) Meaning that when an update will be released I would able to flash it auto' from the recovery?
3) Can you please explain me?
- "fastboot stock FW" ?? Means download the Factory Image from developers.google.com , connect to usd and hit the " flash-all.bat"?
- "recovery flashable stock FW" ?? I know only about the Factory Image that flashed through fasboot...Where can i get the recovery version? (not from Google,right?)
Or I could just use this tutorial?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008
Thanks!
duba500 said:
1) "100% untouched stock framework" Would actually be and act the same as a real stock from from(Factory Image) developers.google.com?
2) Meaning that when an update will be released I would able to flash it auto' from the recovery?
3) Can you please explain me?
- "fastboot stock FW" ?? Means download the Factory Image from developers.google.com , connect to usd and hit the " flash-all.bat"?
- "recovery flashable stock FW" ?? I know only about the Factory Image that flashed through fasboot...Where can i get the recovery version? (not from Google,right?)
Or I could just use this tutorial?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481 Read this to get a better idea what to do.
duba500 said:
Hi There
Using this rom by Danvdh (6.0.1 MMB29K):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-5-1lightromstock-lmy47e-03-19-2015-t3059493
1) Is there a difference between the original one from Google to that rom?
2) OP mentioned that there is an updated recovery flashable releases of stock rooted Android.
It mean that it actually like an OTA updates?
3) What is the process if I want to move from rom such as the one mentioned here to a stock by Google and stay rooted?
Thanks!
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1)Differences would be that SuperSu is installed, busybox is installed, encryption is disabled in the kernel, important gapps such as google play services and the play store are updated to their newest current version so when you install the rom google services immediately work without needing to wait for a background update, gapps that can be fully functional by just downloading them from google play store (google+, youtube, google drive, etc) were removed from /system likely to save space to make it easier to install mods such as guitardedhero's viper/dolby sound mod, vanilla android's gallery photos app was added in place of google photos app, the little android debugging notification is hidden, and the tethering check was disabled to allow for tethering without a tethering plan.
2) The updated recovery flashable line is referring to the fact that the dev updated the google apps in the rom.
3) If you wanted to go totally stock then you'd need to just flash the boot.img and system.img out of a factory image from google since the rom is very very close to stock a userdata wipe shouldn't be needed and a cache/dalvik wipe may or may not be but as always have a backup in TWRP. Then go into TWRP before booting and install the latest SuperSu (2.65 iirc right now) installing the newest SuperSu's can cause a bootloop or 2 (in the middle of booting the phone will go back to the Google logo and booting again, it will usually do this 1 or 2 times before properly booting). (if you boot to android before going to TWRP it will be replaced since you have an untouched /system after flashing the system.img). And if you allow TWRP to keep /system as read only (it'll popup when you first boot into TWRP asking if you want to do that) then the stock /system will replace TWRP with stock recovery and OTA's will work if you do a total unroot from within the SuperSU app.
Hi,
Regarding (1): Yes I know that.
I meant to the rom itself(not gaspps, supersu, busybox..).
(2) Really? that's all? I thought it kinda of ota to the rom.
(3) Really? that's all(2...)?
If i boot in into twrp => flash the boot.img and system.img from the factory image , I will have a totally stock rom?!
So 4sure just download the factory image and just extract the boot.img and system.img?
Would you mimd to aprove if i got this right?
-> Take the boot.img and system.img from the factory image
=> Boot into TWRP and FLASH the 2 img's *without rebooting at the end*
=> Wipe cache/dalvik.
=> Flash SuperSu 2.65 ***By flashing 2.65 I wont face the 1-2 bootloop's?***
=> Wipe cache/dalvik.
=> Boot into system.
Did I undersyood it right?
Thanks for your advice-tip of the SuperSu version!
P.S:
LG doesnt have a dev site such as Google's have with all the Factory Firmwares?
Can I trust site such as: lgg3root. com/lg-g3-stock-factory-firmware
???
duba500 said:
Hi,
Regarding (1): Yes I know that.
I meant to the rom itself(not gaspps, supersu, busybox..).
(2) Really? that's all? I thought it kinda of ota to the rom.
(3) Really? that's all(2...)?
If i boot in into twrp => flash the boot.img and system.img from the factory image , I will have a totally stock rom?!
So 4sure just download G3 LS990 32GB and extract the boot.img and system.img?
Would you mimd to aprove if i got this right?
-> Take the boot.img and system.img from the factory image
=> Boot into TWRP and FLASH the 2 img's *without rebooting at the end*
=> Wipe cache/dalvik.
=> Flash SuperSu 2.65 ***By flashing 2.65 I wont face the 1-2 bootloop's?***
=> Wipe cache/dalvik.
=> Boot into system.
Did I undersood it right?
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You have got a fantastic tip in looking here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
Search for fastboot.
THIS APPLIES ONLY TO THE A2017U VARIANT, DO NOT USE THIS FILE ON OTHER VERSIONS
Disclaimer - don't blame me if something goes wrong
As title says, this is a full stock unmodified B20 TWRP system image. It kan be used in addition to stock boot and recovery images to restore the US A7 to conditions which will be like stock and allow to flash upcoming OTA. This was tested by @jkuczera here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3459107
Link to system image
https://cloud.swehes.com/index.php/s/31V7GgihohBCdfy
If you are BL unlocked, you will need to lock it before flashing old recovery and boot (this may not be necessary to get MR2 to flash, depending on what it checks, but the phone might not boot, unknown). This will make your phone verify boot, recovery and /system again, so flash TWRP from tenfar's thread to be able boot after relocking since his is signed
To restore, unzip the file above to TWRP folder on the SD Card, then in TWRP under mount points unmount /system and put check mark on mount system as read-only. The read-only part is important so that TWRP does not modify the /system apon exit. You can then restore boot, recovery and system image.
Another partition, fastboot, was altered if you applied B20_boot, but so far no OTA has check it so it should be fine as is. Chance is it will be just overwritten by next OTA, but in case that changes, info will be added. This step is more risky since it involves using dd command and has to be applied carefully.
EDIT: looks like @Unjustified Dev posted new build that will flash fastboot image http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68677272&postcount=133
You should then boot to stock recovery and factory wipe
In case you did not dump your boot and recovery, they can be found in @rczrider's post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/untouched-b20-boot-recovery-files-t3443818
Thanks to @swehes for providing the space on his cloud for this file, @rczrider for rest of the files and @jkuczera for trying this all out
So you need TWRP for this, but will this overwrite the TWRP recovery and make it truly stock?
imp3r10 said:
So you need TWRP for this, but will this overwrite the TWRP recovery and make it truly stock?
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Indeed and before rebooting , you MUST Wipe Data + Internal Storage, cuz you are flashing new boot and system and will get in conflicts if there no wipe.
Just for clarity sake these are the steps I need to take to get back to B20 from B20_Boot?
1. fastboot oem lock
2. put system image from OP's post AND stock_boot_backup.img AND stock_recovery_backup.img from rczrider's post into TWRP folder.
3. in TWRP unmount /system and check mark on mount system as read only.
4. Flash boot, recovery, and system image.
5. Wipe Data and Internal Storage.
6. Profit?
runderekrun said:
Just for clarity sake these are the steps I need to take to get back to B20 from B20_Boot?
1. fastboot oem lock
2. put system image from OP's post AND stock_boot_backup.img AND stock_recovery_backup.img from rczrider's post into TWRP folder.
3. in TWRP unmount /system and check mark on mount system as read only.
4. Flash boot, recovery, and system image.
5. Wipe Data and Internal Storage.
6. Profit?
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Pretty much. I would reboot to stock recovery after and factory wipe from there. you might wan't to flash fastboot from B20 OTA for extra profit but seems like it's a moot point so far if you have seen the Unjustified Devs trick for BL unlock via TWRP
peramikic said:
Pretty much. I would reboot to stock recovery after and factory wipe from there. you might wan't to flash fastboot from B20 OTA for extra profit but seems like it's a moot point so far if you have seen the Unjustified Devs trick for BL unlock via TWRP
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Thanks.
I'm having to do a warranty replacement on my device so i'll probably want to do the fastboot flash. Any idea where to get a fastboot image?
runderekrun said:
I'm having to do a warranty replacement on my device so i'll probably want to do the fastboot flash. Any idea where to get a fastboot image?
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Step 6 to pull your own: http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-stay-t3461165
Or you can download the one I pulled from my device (it can be found in the Mega folder linked in the OP): http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/untouched-b20-boot-recovery-files-t3443818
And as option 3 it's inside the B18toB20 OTA file floating somewhere around here
Alright I tried this and something went wrong.
First thing I did was copy all the files where they needed to be. Then I booted into fastboot and did a "fastboot oem lock".
Then my device would do nothing. I would boot up to the ZTE logo then go black a second later. I tried to force into recovery by selecting recovery in fastboot but same thing, ZTE logo then blackness.
I got it back by getting into fastboot and performing a "fastboot oem unlock" again. All it did was wipe data.
What did I do wrong? I thought I am supposed to lock bootloader first before I restore system and flash recover and boot????
runderekrun said:
Alright I tried this and something went wrong.
First thing I did was copy all the files where they needed to be. Then I booted into fastboot and did a "fastboot oem lock".
Then my device would do nothing. I would boot up to the ZTE logo then go black a second later. I tried to force into recovery by selecting recovery in fastboot but same thing, ZTE logo then blackness.
I got it back by getting into fastboot and performing a "fastboot oem unlock" again. All it did was wipe data.
What did I do wrong? I thought I am supposed to lock bootloader first before I restore system and flash recover and boot????
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Ok so if you modified boot, system or recovery in anyway then after BL lock it will not boot since it will fail secure boot, so you need to load the signed TWRP from tenfar's thread via EDL after locking. That will let you run TWRP with locked BL. Although ig you just want stock for upcoming OTA, then you might be good staying unlocked. If for return, then you should lock it
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Ok so if you modified boot, system or recovery in anyway then after BL lock it will not boot since it will fail secure boot, so you need to load the signed TWRP from tenfar's thread via EDL after locking. That will let you run TWRP with locked BL. Although ig you just want stock for upcoming OTA, then you might be good staying unlocked. If for return, then you should lock it
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I apologize if I am fundamentaly not understanding this but wouldn't it be easier to flash system, boot, recovery, and fastboot back to stock via my current twrp THEN relock bootloader?
runderekrun said:
I apologize if I am fundamentaly not understanding this but wouldn't it be easier to flash system, boot, recovery, and fastboot back to stock via my current twrp THEN relock bootloader?
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Yeah, now that we know fastboot will work even on stock boot that will work as well. The only thing you won't be able to do is flash back the B20 fastboot image that way, but enough to pass OTA most likely. The long way you can revert the fastboot image as well. I only wanted to post the image to begin with, but then wrote out instruction as they rolled around in my head. This will change soon anyways so a proper write-up will happen, just not by me, Documentation was never my forte
My BL is unlocked from ZTE right now, If I want to get CM for future but also want upcoming update from ZTE? What are the exact steps that I need to follow to get future OTA but also keep the BL unlocked for future CM? Please help as I'm confused with all these instructions.
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THIS APPLIES ONLY TO THE A2017U VARIANT, DO NOT USE THIS FILE ON OTHER VERSIONS
Disclaimer - don't blame me if something goes wrong
As title says, this is a full stock unmodified B20 TWRP system image. It kan be used in addition to stock boot and recovery images to restore the US A7 to conditions which will be like stock and allow to flash upcoming OTA. This was tested by @jkuczera here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3459107
Link to system image
https://cloud.swehes.com/index.php/s/31V7GgihohBCdfy
If you are BL unlocked, you will need to lock it before flashing old recovery and boot (this may not be necessary to get MR2 to flash, depending on what it checks, but the phone might not boot, unknown). This will make your phone verify boot, recovery and /system again, so flash TWRP from tenfar's thread to be able boot after relocking since his is signed
To restore, unzip the file above to TWRP folder on the SD Card, then in TWRP under mount points unmount /system and put check mark on mount system as read-only. The read-only part is important so that TWRP does not modify the /system apon exit. You can then restore boot, recovery and system image.
Another partition, fastboot, was altered if you applied B20_boot, but so far no OTA has check it so it should be fine as is. Chance is it will be just overwritten by next OTA, but in case that changes, info will be added. This step is more risky since it involves using dd command and has to be applied carefully.
EDIT: looks like @Unjustified Dev posted new build that will flash fastboot image http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68677272&postcount=133
You should then boot to stock recovery and factory wipe
In case you did not dump your boot and recovery, they can be found in @rczrider's post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/untouched-b20-boot-recovery-files-t3443818
Thanks to @swehes for providing the space on his cloud for this file, @rczrider for rest of the files and @jkuczera for trying this all out
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Can someone please explain exactly how to do this. I have an unofficial twrp on my phone and the bootloader is unlocked but after i tried to flash super su it got stuck on bootloop so I wiped every thing and I also accidentally wiped my os too. So now I don't have an os and I want to go back to stock. Can someone please explain step by step on how to fix this? I just got the phone.
seby1234 said:
Can someone please explain exactly how to do this. I have an unofficial twrp on my phone and the bootloader is unlocked but after i tried to flash super su it got stuck on bootloop so I wiped every thing and I also accidentally wiped my os too. So now I don't have an os and I want to go back to stock. Can someone please explain step by step on how to fix this? I just got the phone.
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All right I'm no expert either but I'll try to make this as straightforward as possible.
1) Format your SD card as exFAT. This is important as otherwise you will not be able to transfer the system image to your SD card since it is 6GB. To do this you can just plug it in to your PC, right click, Format and then select exFAT from the dropdown.
2) Download tenfar's tool for B20, rczrider's boot and recovery backup, and the system image backup from the link in the OP.
3) Create a new folder in /external_sd/TWRP/BACKUPS/serial_number/.Move the stock_boot_backup and stock_recovery backup into the folder.
4) Using a program such as 7zip, extract the 6GB system image file and move it to the same folder.
6) Go to into fastboot mode. Before you do anything you have to relock the bootloader otherwise the system will be modified and you want to be 100? stock. Execute 'fastboot oem lock'. You should then boot to a black screen.
7) Unzip tenfar's tool. Go to the unzipped folder, then hold down shift+right click and select 'Open command window here'. Execute 'axon7root.exe -p [COMPORT #] -r. To figure out your com port #, go to Device Manager, then go to down to where it says "Qualcomm Loader..." and your com port number is the number at the end. So for example if your com port number is 5, you should execute axon7root.exe -p 5 -r. Allow the program to do its thing.
5) Boot into TWRP. Do not swipe to allow modifications. Once in TWRP, go to "Install", "Install Image" at the bottom right hand corner, and then navigate to the stock_recovery_backup in the folder that you moved it to to. Select it and then choose the Recovery partition to flash it to. Do the same thing for stock_boot_backup.
6) Once you have flashed boot and recovery, go to the main menu, then "Restore" and then Restore the system image backup.
7) Go to wipe and then slide to factory reset. Finally, reboot system.
Hope that helps! If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.
rczrider's stock boot and recovery thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/untouched-b20-boot-recovery-files-t3443818/page7
tenfar's tool thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/axo...xon-7-root-bootloader-unlokced-t3441204/page1
Has anyone who requested the bootloader unlock from ZTE (and mistakenly installed it) returned to stock and been able to get OTA's? I followed this guide and seemed to have returned to stock fine but the only OTA I can get now is the bootloader unlock OTA. I've downloaded and discarded it several times but that is the only one I can get. Anyone know of a way to bypass this OTA and get the new MR2 that was just released? I want to get OTA's until the custom roms start flowing.
Thanks!
shifuharris said:
Has anyone who requested the bootloader unlock from ZTE (and mistakenly installed it) returned to stock and been able to get OTA's? I followed this guide and seemed to have returned to stock fine but the only OTA I can get now is the bootloader unlock OTA. I've downloaded and discarded it several times but that is the only one I can get. Anyone know of a way to bypass this OTA and get the new MR2 that was just released? I want to get OTA's until the custom roms start flowing.
Thanks!
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From what I can tell, once you apply for official bootloader unlock, your IMEI is placed on a list that will not get any future OTA updates set to it.
However, the OTA for B20 to B27 has been uploaded here: https://mega.nz/#F!kYtRAJjJ!5tD1zPpo0nw2tJwhANA9pQ
Try flashing that via stock recovery.
Quick question for anyone who might know.
The Link to system image which is : https://cloud.swehes.com/index.php/s/31V7GgihohBCdfy has the following;
1. system_image.emmc.win
2. system_image.emmc.win.md5
Am I suppose to rename system_image.emmc.win to system_image.emmc.img and load?
it's not as clear that's why I ask but I ended up downloading rczrider system.img and reflashed via TWRP since I was a bit confused.
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I simply just went into TWRP backed up by boot so it would create a directory that contains the info I needed copied the system_image.emmc.win and system_image.emmc.win.md5 and restored.
xtermmin said:
From what I can tell, once you apply for official bootloader unlock, your IMEI is placed on a list that will not get any future OTA updates set to it.
However, the OTA for B20 to B27 has been uploaded here: https://mega.nz/#F!kYtRAJjJ!5tD1zPpo0nw2tJwhANA9pQ
Try flashing that via stock recovery.
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I suspected as much. I downloaded the update and tried to flash it via the stock recovery using the update for ADB option but it fails saying that the package is not a ks package. Booooo. I really wanted this MR becasue they addressed the weak cell signal which I think contributes significantly to my battery drain. Not sure if there are any alternatives to get the update installed. Not very a happy about the ceased OTA's due to the bootloader unlock. Thinking the new Nexus (or whatever they are going to call them) is looking pretty good at the moment.
shifuharris said:
I suspected as much. I downloaded the update and tried to flash it via the stock recovery using the update for ADB option but it fails saying that the package is not a ks package. Booooo. I really wanted this MR becasue they addressed the weak cell signal which I think contributes significantly to my battery drain. Not sure if there are any alternatives to get the update installed. Not very a happy about the ceased OTA's due to the bootloader unlock. Thinking the new Nexus (or whatever they are going to call them) is looking pretty good at the moment.
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Try the microSD card method instead.
First, make sure OEM Unlocking is checked in developer settings, rename the OTA to "update.zip", put on microSD, boot into stock recovery, and choose update from microSD.
Is there a way to restore my stock rooted phone to allow updated the latest stock OTA updates without having to reflash the whole previous stock ROM? With my previous MOT phones (Moto 2, Moto 3, Moto 4) all I had to do was restore stock recovery and logo and then reboot to allow OTA updates. But since there is no recovery.img in this phone's ROM xml then that option is out. It would be nice not have to restore everything from scratch in order to get the updates.
pastorbob62 said:
Is there a way to restore my stock rooted phone to allow updated the latest stock OTA updates without having to reflash the whole previous stock ROM? With my previous MOT phones (Moto 2, Moto 3, Moto 4) all I had to do was restore stock recovery and logo and then reboot to allow OTA updates. But since there is no recovery.img in this phone's ROM xml then that option is out. It would be nice not have to restore everything from scratch in order to get the updates.
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Yup, If you are just rooted stock and have NOT installed the copy partions.ZIP... Boot to TWRP From FASTBOOT BACKUP your DATA to flash back after Install...Just the Data and install Magisk Uninstaller... After MAGISK unistall... Format DATA PARTITION ONLY...MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON BOOT SLOT A... Reboot to the SETUP WIZARD... STOP and reboot to bootloader.......HAVE STOCK BOOT IMG READY TO BOOT FROM CURRENT FIRMWARE... The STOCK installed boot img has the bootloader and modified devices flagged so that kills the OTA INSTALLATION.... If you have installed any modded logo.bin you have to replace it with STOCK on both logo_a and logo_b
fastboot --set-active=a
fastboot flash logo_a logo.bin
fastboot flash logo_b logo.bin
fastboot boot boot.img
DONT FLASH BOOT
it will trick the flags from trippin that stop the OTA
Setup the phone from setup wizard and it should automatically update the OTA so really its two updates....
Once its done reinstall TWRP and TWRP restore data then install Magisk reboot to your data rooted stock updated OTA
KtownJeff said:
Yup, If you are just rooted stock and have NOT installed the copy partions.ZIP... Boot to TWRP From FASTBOOT BACKUP your DATA to flash back after Install...Just the Data and install Magisk Uninstaller... After MAGISK unistall... Format DATA PARTITION ONLY...MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON BOOT SLOT A... Reboot to the SETUP WIZARD... STOP and reboot to bootloader.......HAVE STOCK BOOT IMG READY TO BOOT FROM CURRENT FIRMWARE... The STOCK installed boot img has the bootloader and modified devices flagged so that kills the OTA INSTALLATION.... If you have installed any modded logo.bin you have to replace it with STOCK on both logo_a and logo_b
fastboot --set-active=a
fastboot flash logo_a logo.bin
fastboot flash logo_b logo.bin
fastboot boot boot.img
DONT FLASH BOOT
it will trick the flags from trippin that stop the OTA
Setup the phone from setup wizard and it should automatically update the OTA so really its two updates....
Once its done reinstall TWRP and TWRP restore data then install Magisk reboot to your data rooted stock updated OTA
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Thanks KtownJeff, that does sound much easier. Why aren't others posting this much simpler solution? Has anyone else tried this?
I haven't tried it yet as it looks like they may be about to figure out the low call volume issue in custom ROMs and then these OTA updates won't be necessary anyway? I'll wait and see what happens over the next week or so.
I'm wondering why it's necessary to wipe the data though. Why isn't uninstalling Magisk and booting with the original kernel enough?
JerseyChewi said:
Yeah the calling issue is just a lineage thing...and lineage is so generically lame. mokee or corvusos are my favs. Most of the custom Roms work well.... and there is a lot more ROMS for our device that is not on XDA.... The Data may be fine Just back it up first....and I put this on telegram and if you haven't checked it out there is five channels for our phone with tons of stuff.....more ROM builds We also have Pitch Black Recovery now available which is twrp with a cleaner UI and lots more options
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KtownJeff said:
Yup, If you are just rooted stock and have NOT installed the copy partions.ZIP... Boot to TWRP From FASTBOOT BACKUP your DATA to flash back after Install...Just the Data and install Magisk Uninstaller... After MAGISK unistall... Format DATA PARTITION ONLY...MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON BOOT SLOT A... Reboot to the SETUP WIZARD... STOP and reboot to bootloader.......HAVE STOCK BOOT IMG READY TO BOOT FROM CURRENT FIRMWARE... The STOCK installed boot img has the bootloader and modified devices flagged so that kills the OTA INSTALLATION.... If you have installed any modded logo.bin you have to replace it with STOCK on both logo_a and logo_b
fastboot --set-active=a
fastboot flash logo_a logo.bin
fastboot flash logo_b logo.bin
fastboot boot boot.img
DONT FLASH BOOT
it will trick the flags from trippin that stop the OTA
Setup the phone from setup wizard and it should automatically update the OTA so really its two updates....
Once its done reinstall TWRP and TWRP restore data then install Magisk reboot to your data rooted stock updated OTA
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WHHAAAT?? I got a few questions...
Why is it important not to have the copy-partitions.zip installed?
Why you should be on slot _a?
There is no need to boot the boot.img instead of flashing it. The Magisk uninstaller restores exactly the same boot.img as you can find in the firmware zip. Your device isn't able to store any data on that image.
Sorry, but this is the most complicate way for an OTA I have ever red. You could sum up these steps to "flash the stock firmware". In the end the result is the same. But it's much easier.
WoKoschekk said:
There is no need to boot the boot.img instead of flashing it. The Magisk uninstaller restores exactly the same boot.img as you can find in the firmware zip. Your device isn't able to store any data on that image.
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Sooo... assuming you haven't changed the logo then all you need to do is uninstall Magisk? Why do you need to flash the stock firmware then?
WoKoschekk said:
Sorry, but this is the most complicate way for an OTA I have ever red. You could sum up these steps to "flash the stock firmware". In the end the result is the same. But it's much easier.
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It seems a lot less risky to me. Flashing all those different partitions makes me nervous.
JerseyChewi said:
Sooo... assuming you haven't changed the logo then all you need to do is uninstall Magisk? Why do you need to flash the stock firmware then?
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Assuming this is not your first time flashing the firmware and you already have a flash script/.bat file:
1. run the script
Done! One command and 5 min later you are on the latest firmware.
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It seems a lot less risky to me. Flashing all those different partitions makes me nervous.
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Motorola provides you OEM signed images and a .xml sheet with proper commands to flash them as a .zip file. I've never heard that someone bricked his device by using the manufacturer's recommended way. I think it's risky to use your own workaround just because you're nervous about it.
Even if you unplug the device in the middle of the flashing process you won't face any trouble. Every single flashing command loads the image into your device's RAM before it gets written to the device.
fastboot oem fb_mode_set = no matter what reboot command you run your device boots into bootloader
Why are you nervous about it?
Why is it important not to have the copy-partitions.zip installed?
Ok so the copy partitons zip is only supposed to be installed when you install the first custom rom coming from original stock..... because it breaks the chain for OTA from motorola.... If you root stock and flash recovery only Its not necessary.... so that way when OTA comes it will move to the B partition the way that it was intended to.....but the boot-loader is unlocked now both slots start with a boot-loader, bootloader_a and bootloader_b.. .and the on board preboot chip will trip the first flag that communicates with stock flashed boot image which also holds the recovery and the kernel... even if its backed up stock.img with magisk, it will break the next flag on the device along with the custom logo.bin.... now the custom logo if it is cloned with a moto signature official it wont matter and the only one Im aware is logo.bin for the TMOBILE REVVLY variant.... when you boot not flash the stock boot.img it bypasses the security chain until reboot.... I've flashed b slot on accident and then booted several GSI and other lake Roms and at some point ill notice on the bootloader screen that maybe i have April 2020 when Im running July 2020 version....which is headache to fix and i booted to b slot flash stock as normal let boot to the setup wizard then reverse to a and do it again because it brings it back together... now the mapping for the AB partition with duel slots t is standard for all ARM64 AB devices Bootloader a and b Boot a and b Radio a and b which is (firmeware) slot Vendor a and b System a and b....
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-...ess-updates-affect-custom-development-on-xda/
the reason why I wrote it the way that I did was because I tried everything to OTA back and this was the only way it worked for me.... and trust me I stayed up for weeks trying to break it or fix it....I finally I came across a moto g6 thread where some one relocked there bootloader and didnt have the oem unlock set and they couldnt do anything to unlock it again using fastboot because the switch was grey out on developer options which means they couldnt root to fix..., I believe it was Sd_shadow that recommended trying to boot the boot.img like how we boot the twrp.img because it bypasses the security flag... well my first attempt it didn't work which led me to the mismatched boot-loaders and I kept at it and by process of elimination and fully learning the way these partitions communicate..... which is totally backwards from the way it used to be... If u leave data then flash back stock, the boot-loader thinks its fresh but finds its not......so boot-loop... tried it cussed and tried again and screamed but now its automatic. for me because of trial and error... I've been at this a few years now and I'm learning something new all the time and most of time when people don't post is because they either don't know or don't wanna give wrong info or maybe nobody showed them. There kinda is an unwritten bylaw at XDA (tough love)... you gotta learn by experience that way when get an opportunity to help or find a new way it makes it worth the stress
That is why I wrote it the way I did step by step in the easiest way possible because of my experiences and headaches...If it don't work you didn't follow directions.... Now I'm gonna tell you I re-locked my bootloader too and was not able to flash back ota don't even try its a waste of time because the only way to get that flag back is to re ball a chipset, or replace the motherboard, or buy a new phone....
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Sorry, but this is the most complicate way for an OTA I have ever red. You could sum up these steps to "flash the stock firmware". In the end the result is the same. But it's much easier.
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Our device is unbreakable... trust me I've tried to and still haven't managed to Qualcomm brick it.... test point is the only way to get it to EDL mode and i plan on taking my screen off tonight just to see if I can..... and write another essay because some ass hole from Germany thinks he know everthing
KtownJeff said:
Why is it important not to have the copy-partitions.zip installed?
Ok so the copy partitons zip is only supposed to be installed when you install the first custom rom coming from original stock..... because it breaks the chain for OTA from motorola.... If you root stock and flash recovery only Its not necessary....
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First of all the copy-partions.zip is a simple dd command script packed with flashize to flash it through TWRP. It determines the active slot and copies your essential partitions to the inactive one in case they were left blank by your manufacturer. You should have a look inside it.
Also there is no complicated chain of safety for OTAs. When a device powers on, the bootloader first checks if a device is locked or unlocked. If a device is unlocked, the bootloader shows the user a warning and then proceeds to boot even if the loaded OS isn't signed by the root of trust.
If the device is locked, the bootloader goes through the steps in Verifying Boot to verify the device's software.
Magisk hides the unlock state to pretend a trustworthy environment. That's the reason why OEM unlocking option is active and OTA updates start to install. But OTA update files verify your system's integrity by calculating checksums for each partition. This check fails with a active Magisk installation and update process ends with an error.
A preboot chip or sth like this is not in use on Moto devices. Partitions 1-14 (+/-) are defined as your bootloader. A prebootloader does only exist for MediaTek devices but not for SnapDragon.
There's a lot of official documentation about all the stuff...
In my opinion the easiest way to update your device is to flash the stock ROM. One script and it's done. No need to flash this and boot that only to be able to download the OTA which hasn't been installed until then. Your system takes more time to flash the OTA update then fastboot takes to flash the firmware.
BTW: You can call me what you want but that doesn't make your statements right either.
WoKoschekk said:
First of all the copy-partions.zip is a simple dd command script packed with flashize to flash it through TWRP. It determines the active slot and copies your essential partitions to the inactive one in case they were left blank by your manufacturer. You should have a look inside it.
Also there is no complicated chain of safety for OTAs. When a device powers on, the bootloader first checks if a device is locked or unlocked. If a device is unlocked, the bootloader shows the user a warning and then proceeds to boot even if the loaded OS isn't signed by the root of trust.
If the device is locked, the bootloader goes through the steps in Verifying Boot to verify the device's software.
Magisk hides the unlock state to pretend a trustworthy environment. That's the reason why OEM unlocking option is active and OTA updates start to install. But OTA update files verify your system's integrity by calculating checksums for each partition. This check fails with a active Magisk installation and update process ends with an error.
A preboot chip or sth like this is not in use on Moto devices. Partitions 1-14 (+/-) are defined as your bootloader. A prebootloader does only exist for MediaTek devices but not for SnapDragon.
There's a lot of official documentation about all the stuff...
In my opinion the easiest way to update your device is to flash the stock ROM. One script and it's done. No need to flash this and boot that only to be able to download the OTA which hasn't been installed until then. Your system takes more time to flash the OTA update then fastboot takes to flash the firmware.
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KtownJeff said:
Yes correct it easier to flash rom after it is available for download with a month behind....
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You should check your sources.
KtownJeff said:
Quoteriginally Posted by WoKoschekk
Sorry, but this is the most complicate way for an OTA I have ever red. You could sum up these steps to "flash the stock firmware". In the end the result is the same. But it's much easier.
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Our device is unbreakable... trust me I've tried to and still haven't managed to Qualcomm brick it.... test point is the only way to get it to EDL mode and i plan on taking my screen off tonight just to see if I can..... and write another essay because some ass hole from Germany thinks he know everthing
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I also want to leave my device in oem_locked state and not in flashing_locked
Holy Moly! Come on guys! I only wanted a way to fix OTA on my rooted stock installation without having to do a complete stock reinstall. At the time I asked the question, the newest full stock ROM update was not yet available. It is now. My point was I didn't like going through a complete reinstall of my apps and settings, Backing up my Data partition then trying to restore it has never seemed to work for me. Anyway you all need to just chill and put your egos away.
pastorbob62 said:
Holy Moly! Come on guys! I only wanted a way to fix OTA on my rooted stock installation without having to do a complete stock reinstall. At the time I asked the question, the newest full stock ROM update was not yet available. It is now. My point was I didn't like going through a complete reinstall of my apps and settings, Backing up my Data partition then trying to restore it has never seemed to work for me. Anyway you all need to just chill and put your egos away.
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The fact is you need to restore everything back to stock for an OTA. This includes a deinstallation of Magisk (also modules are gone) and restore your stock boot.img with the stock recovery. Then you download and install the OTA, go back to fastboot mode and start installing TWRP and everything else.
This was option 1.
Option 2: Download the latest firmware on Telegram (only possible with your device!) or install LMSA tool, which also downloads the latest build. Boot into fastboot, flash the firmware (without erase userdata) and boot TWRP. Flash TWRP installer and Magisk. Done!
WoKoschekk said:
The fact is you need to restore everything back to stock for an OTA. This includes a deinstallation of Magisk (also modules are gone) and restore your stock boot.img with the stock recovery. Then you download and install the OTA, go back to fastboot mode and start installing TWRP and everything else.
This was option 1.
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I'm thinking not, since this was the first thing I tried when I got the notification for the update. And the update still failed.
WoKoschekk said:
Option 2: Download the latest firmware on Telegram (only possible with your device!) or install LMSA tool, which also downloads the latest build. Boot into fastboot, flash the firmware (without erase userdata) and boot TWRP. Flash TWRP installer and Magisk. Done!
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Telegram didn't have it when I installed the update. LMSA kept giving me a "Decompression failed" error message. So I just reinstalled the stock version I was already on and allowed the update to complete. Then reinstalled TWRP and Magisk without any issues once I had all of my apps and data restored.
Not taking any offense here, but I am not a noob and while I didn't give all of the details to what I had tried I also didn't want to reinvent the wheel. I didn't think about eliminating the line "erase userdata". Since it was very simple with previous devices to do it I knew there had to be an easier way. By the way, the XT1965-2_LAKE_RETLA_10_QPWS30.61-21-14_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-XT1965-2-SUTEL-DS_CFC.xml.zip verson of the ROM is now available here: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/lake/official/
pastorbob62 said:
Telegram didn't have it when I installed the update.
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By the way, the XT1965-2_LAKE_RETLA_10_QPWS30.61-21-14_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-XT1965-2-SUTEL-DS_CFC.xml.zip verson of the ROM is now available here: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/lake/official/
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The mentioned firmware is available on Telegram since Sep 03. Screenshot
Telegram group: https://t.me/s/motoupdatestracker
WoKoschekk said:
The mentioned firmware is available on Telegram since Sep 03. Screenshot
Telegram group: https://t.me/s/motoupdatestracker
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That's nice. But the one for my phone was not available on tracker until the day after I updated via OTA.
KtownJeff said:
Yup, If you are just rooted stock and have NOT installed the copy partions.ZIP... Boot to TWRP From FASTBOOT BACKUP your DATA to flash back after Install...Just the Data and install Magisk Uninstaller... After MAGISK unistall... Format DATA PARTITION ONLY...MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON BOOT SLOT A... Reboot to the SETUP WIZARD... STOP and reboot to bootloader.......HAVE STOCK BOOT IMG READY TO BOOT FROM CURRENT FIRMWARE... The STOCK installed boot img has the bootloader and modified devices flagged so that kills the OTA INSTALLATION.... If you have installed any modded logo.bin you have to replace it with STOCK on both logo_a and logo_b
fastboot --set-active=a
fastboot flash logo_a logo.bin
fastboot flash logo_b logo.bin
fastboot boot boot.img
DONT FLASH BOOT
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I tried this to go back to stock rom from LOS17.
With : fastboot --set-active=a
I have this error :
(bootloader) slot-suffixes: not found
error: could not get suffixes
Any idea of what it means ?
Many thanks
[email protected] said:
I tried this to go back to stock rom from LOS17.
I've never seen that error before have you tried google search for the error?
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[email protected] said:
I tried this to go back to stock rom from LOS17.
With : fastboot --set-active=a
I have this error :
(bootloader) slot-suffixes: not found
error: could not get suffixes
Any idea of what it means ?
Many thanks
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Don't know what your error means, but flash the stock ROM and it should be fine.