So I love my nexus 6 and the quality of the camera taking normal distance shot is great but what not so great, at least for me, is the crappy quality of photos taken up close or zoomed in.
If I try to take a picture up close, it's blurry and doesn't focus. If I try to take a picture from a distance and try to zoom in to focus, it doesn't work either.
There are many circumstances that I need up close pictures taken such as when I use my fitnesspal app where I have to take shots of barcodes to add to my nutrition log. I also work In IT and use my phone to take pictures of the back of equipment in tight spaces such as the server room.
Does anyone else experience what I am experiencing with close up pictures not focusing?
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Bump?
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I wouldn't bump it if I were you. IMO, the people who own the device will most likely disagree with you to justify their purchase or haters will spread hate and will end up comparing it with other devices causing flame war.
first off, you have to stay back a few more inches on the nexus 6, about 7 inches or so. and dont zoom in, that automatically reduces the quality. you can crop it lateer, much better than zooming in. besides that, you have to touch to focus. tap where you would like the camera to focus, and thats where itll "focus"(quality will be better there)
I think the camera is pretty decent personally, it's not like the best on the market or anything. It surely is far from the worst though.
Yeah as mentioned, zoomed in pictures are always going to be crap. We don't have optical zoom, we have digital zoom. All digital zoom does is crop the image grabbed from the sensor in the middle and then blow it back up to the same size. You can reproduce this yourself in Microsoft Paint for example.
See below for example
Download this 500x450 image: http://www.prime-junta.net/pont/img/How_to/ha_Testing_lenses/high_acc_low_res.jpg
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Select a part of the picture in the middle...
Crop it...
Set the image size back to the original (or as close as you can get)...
Voila, poor quality image..
I'm a hobbyist photographer, have a degree in video production and work for a university doing this stuff. I will be honest that I have just gotten the Nexus 6 and haven't had a chance to really put the camera through its paces yet. But I can provide some general information that might help you understand what could be going on.
First of all, every lens has a minimum focusing distance. This is going to vary for each lens/camera. If the lens is closer to the object than this minimum focusing distance, then it can't find focus - the pieces of glass just don't have the room to move to the right place to focus. This is why people buy Macro lenses - they can focus a lot closer than other lenses. Now, I'm not saying buy a Macro lens. I'm just bringing that up for reference. There are Macro lenses you can buy for smartphones, but I never used any so I can't comment on what's good or if they're worth it. But this could help if it's that important to you. The only thing I will caution you with if you DO go for a macro lens is that these tend to provide a very shallow depth of field (blurry background/foreground is exaggerated). In a nutshell, this phone may not be able to focus on things very close.
With regards to zooming in - there's no real zoom on this camera or any released prior. Some new phones demonstrated at CES (or at least one) has a real zoom built in. What I mean is optical zoom. Optical zoom is the actual mechanical movement of the lens to zoom in on objects. So far, there has only been digital zoom. Digital zoom is no different than cropping. The problem with this is we have a fixed number of pixels for the image. When we crop or digitally zoom, we throw away a chunk of pixels on 3 or 4 of the sides we're zooming/cropping to and enlarging the remaining pixels. The more we zoom or crop, the lower the image quality becomes.
If you're scanning barcodes, I'd say perhaps you're doing it wrong. Most apps don't need to see this very close - it doesn't need to fill the entire screen. You can also indicate where to focus by tapping the screen what to focus on - this will help.
I've tried taking pictures close and from a distance with zoom. I just can't get it to focus quick enough to reaD barcodes.
Previous to my nexus 6 I was able to use my nexus 5 and iPhone 5s with ease. I literally would pull up the app, scan the barcode up close and it would read it instantly.
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I'm having the same issue. Even without digital zoom, any subject within about a foot and a half are fairly to completely blurry, getting worse the closer it gets. I understand lenses have limits with regard to focal distances, but as the phone attempts to focus, the subject becomes crystal clear once or twice before the autofocus settles on a blurry setting. So far I've tried clearing the cache and data and restoring the camera app to the factory settings. I've also tried a different camera app, but the same issue was still present.
dcsull said:
I'm having the same issue. Even without digital zoom, any subject within about a foot and a half are fairly to completely blurry, getting worse the closer it gets. I understand lenses have limits with regard to focal distances, but as the phone attempts to focus, the subject becomes crystal clear once or twice before the autofocus settles on a blurry setting. So far I've tried clearing the cache and data and restoring the camera app to the factory settings. I've also tried a different camera app, but the same issue was still present.
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why autofocus? itll focus on an average focus. if you want it focused right, then touch to focus.
Same problem happens with touch focus and average focus.
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hi there. recently i notice that there are green dotss and blue dotss somewhere on the picture taken from my camera.. does this mean that there are dead pixels?? or my camera become faulty??
is there anywhere to clear all the dots tat are on the picture??
sorry my english is not so good
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i had uploaded a photo that had been taken from my camera..
please have a look, there are lotsa green dots n blue dot somewhere on the picture..
how can i solve this problem??
I've got green and red dots also on my camera. Even had it on my only previous faulty device too.
Apparently I think this happens for everyone's XDA IIi or equivalent device. Is there any experts out there who can explain the cause?
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thats called Sensor Noise! because the photo sensor on mobile devices is so small if you try and take a picture in a dark environment you'll get noise!
try taking a pic in an environment with plenty of light :wink:
if you want a decent picture spend a few $$ on a decent camera
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
You can't upgrade the internal camera, there are no direct replacements. If you look at the Hi-res images I got of the Alpine you'll see the sort of size and shape of camera required and I very much doubt there'll be others the same or similar shape/size. If there are then you need to add the data ribbon to connect it.
Overall go to an Elec store and buy a dedicated camera.
I don't agree. Motorola V3 has a camera as small as XDAIIi and the pictures are awesome. Lenses are a determinant factor in quality. I personaly have a Canon DC20 that takes wonderfull photos but I would like to get better photos with my XDAIIi. Why not get better results wiyh ours devices? Converging functions in one device is helpfull to mobile professionals. BTW, tweaking the camera settings in registry makes the photos much better. See this forum for more information.
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i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
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I think that there is no problem on your camara. note that if you want to have a good picture you must chose the best index light in setting of the camara for example; ambience: night or flourescent... and the cature mode, cature size..
tlazymoon said:
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
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The camera isnt that good but you are never going to get great pics from a lens that size and indoor pics are always going to be grainy without a flash tho you should be getting better pics than those you have so far
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Do a search for AtekSoft's CoolCamera. It allows quite a few more options than the default. There may be better camera replacement software out there, but I havn't found it yet.
Ateksoft is the one most Cooooooooool Camera software.....
From what I understand, O2 included a camera 'upgrade' in their extrom (which installs whenever you hard reset), which actually makes the camera quality WORSE. I've not tested it myself, as I'm quite happy with my phone setup as it is and really don't want to hard reset AGAIN, but some users report that flashing their device with the firmware which doesn't include this camera upgrade makes their camera quality better.
Also, you have to bear in mind that pretty much all cameras use cheap and nasty CMOS sensor technology (what low-quality webcams use) - the resolution and light sensitivity of CMOS technology is REALLY poor compared to CCD, but CCD tech is much more expensive and sucks up more battery power (hence CMOS technology being more widespread in the mobile industry).
Better quality cameras are starting to appear, and the quality of the k750i camera continues to astound me when I see my friends' photos. It won't be long though, I remember seeing articles about lenses made with a tiny suspension of water inbetween two nanometre-thick layers of plastic, to which an electric current could be applied to make the water change shape, acting as an optical lens... This kind of technology will drastically increase the quality and cost-effectiveness of higher-end portable, miniature camera technology, and I can't wait until it becomes widespread.
Hi fellows,
Anyone can elighten me here? when i use the camera and take a photo, when I go and view the photo, it is not the same quality I saw on the display, for some reason when the photo is saved, it is smudge, anyone encounter a similar situation? This happen more when photo is taken at night, it seems that the saving process damages the quality of the photo
Any feedback welcome
Thanks
First of all, appreciate that the size of the lens of the camera is so small, not so much light is going through it. So, especially at night, it will be hard to get nice pictures. This is not a camera with a phone, it is a phone with a camera!
Another issue is when you press the shutter release - squeezing your finger shakes the camera a bit, and this is something many camera users have to bear with. One idea is to use the timer for this instance, and place the Kaiser somewhere steady. Also, be aware that from the time you press the shutter release until it takes the picture does take longer than many dedicated cameras, so when you are doing your best to hold your camera still, be sure to do it long enough. I did that same error in the beginning, moving the camera even before it had taken the picture. Just keep it still for another second before you do anything else.
Poor Lighting
Overall I must say that I am very satisfied with the quality of the camera on my Tilt. However, this camera does seem to be more sensitive to poor lighting conditions than my 8125 was. This could either be caused by the absence of a flash or that the camera lens is 3MP instead of 1.3, and for that reason, picks up more flaws.
Any pictures I take outdoors with my Tilt turn out great. Actually the video recording is pretty damn good too. Indoors pictures tend to pickup a lot of "color noise" (Red, Green, Blue specs in the image) when taken.
I don't know which model phone you upgraded from, but another difference between the camera on the 8125 and the Tilt is that we now have an auto-focus lens, and that increases the time required to capture the image.
In the end, I am very satisfied with the camera on my Tilt, but as usual these comments based on my experiences only.
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Overall I must say that I am very satisfied with the quality of the camera on my Tilt. However, this camera does seem to be more sensitive to poor lighting conditions than my 8125 was. This could either be caused by the absence of a flash or that the camera lens is 3MP instead of 1.3, and for that reason, picks up more flaws.
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I've taken photos in bright sunlight outside and still gotten grainy/noisy photos, so I agree the camera is worse than the Hermes/8525 even w/o flash.
Richard
I think the camera is GREAT for a cell phone camera.
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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See, that's what we're talking about - look at the sky?!?!?!?!? Yeah, cell phones are crappy cameras but WTF is that? Your subject shows it a little on things like the tree trunk, etc, but it's horrible artifacting
Richard
It's a cell phone... I was drinking.... It's only 3MP.
As far as I am concerned, it's a good camera. We are the newest owners of the latest technology that still needs to be fine tuned. How many other cell phones have 3MP cameras?
I think the camera is very good... MUCH better than many other phones I've seen......
Take a look at this samples with my kaiser..
http://personales.ya.com/aliste/kaiser/pruebas1.zip
Set the quality to finest, and be quiet when you take the photo..
so, I see that you like basic batteries, you have rusted keys, need more duct tape and like boring books. You can find a mate at match.com
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so, I see that you like basic batteries, you have rusted keys, need more duct tape and like boring books. You can find a mate at match.com
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that's not completely true... ;-)
I was simply trying macro capabilities
But take a look to this other samples (landscapes)... remember this is not a canon EOS, but it is a great camera for a mobile phone!
http://personales.ya.com/aliste/kaiser/pruebas2.zip
I think the tilt takes damn good pictures for a camera phone, but video recording is better on the 8525!
grizzley said:
I think the camera is GREAT for a cell phone camera.
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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Although only 2MP, the Hermes has a better camera. Here's one sample:
Yea, I think you are correct... not too bad for 2MP!
I think the best setting for the camera to take good pictures is @ 1600X1200, with quality set to fine.
Here are some of my pics:
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Yea, I think you are correct... not too bad for 2MP!
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Yep, so coming from that to the Kaiser hurts. There's a lot more to a camera than Megapixels! Hopefully these Kaiser issues can be fixed either in firmware or with camera settings.... I just noticed the Adjustment page has Sharpness set at +3, I wonder if the minimum (+1) would provide better results?
Richard
Anyone who thinks the pictures taken by the 3.2MP camera on the Tytn II is even half decent has got rocks in there head. Take a look at some pictures taken with Sony Ericsons phones.
http://flickr.com/cameras/sonyericsson/
Nice landscape on a 3.2MP k800i
See what a good 2MP can do.(k750i/w800i)
I miss my k800i I lost that has now been replaced with a TytnII. The TytnII does a lot of great things the k800i did not but taken pictures is where the TytnII falls drastically short of the k800i and other SE phones.
The video is terrible. The 8525 camera was way better. When I try to record everything looks sluggish.
i can almost assure you guys that when coolcamera will support the kaiser we will see a big improvement.
were those 8525 pictures taken with coolcamera?
o and here's my sample pics on modaco:
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocke...n/260817/Sample-Pics-of-the-ATT-Tilt-Kaiser-/
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i can almost assure you guys that when coolcamera will support the kaiser we will see a big improvement.
were those 8525 pictures taken with coolcamera?
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Mine were not - I didn't see any reason to pay for another camera app on my Hermes.... if it really cleans up the Kaiser images, I could be convinced otherwise
Richard
rsolomon said:
I just noticed the Adjustment page has Sharpness set at +3, I wonder if the minimum (+1) would provide better results?
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This is the well-known adjustment on the Hermes camera that makes the difference between sh*tty and good photos. And in older Hermes ROMs, this setting is not saved so you have to adjust it everytime you start the camera. I use the lowest Sharpness setting also on my TyTN II but unfortunately it doesn't give the same improvement as on the Hermes, just a little better.
I see many people are complaining about the image quality of the phone. From what I have personally seen I am amazed at the image quality which more than exceeded my expectations.
The following images are taken by myself, with some camera settings changed and manual shooting but no editing aside from cropping.
Most people are quick at talking absolute rubbish or simply have no idea how to use a camera or it's settings.
With some knowledge of photography and using manual settings, the Mi Mix is capable of amazing photos.
Please tell me what is so bad about these:
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Same image cropped, look at the detail:
Another Angle:
Same image as above cropped:
Image of the metal links:
Sample Image Of Rose:
You are hairy my friend, but nice photo
lesscro said:
You are hairy my friend, but nice photo
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XD
kanej2006 said:
I see many people are complaining about the image quality of the phone. From what I have personally seen I am amazed at the image quality which more than exceeded my expectations.
The following images are taken by myself, with some camera settings changed and manual shooting but no editing aside from cropping.
Most people are quick at talking absolute rubbish or simply have no idea how to use a camera or it's settings.
With some knowledge of photography and using manual settings, the Mi Mix is capable of amazing photos.
Please tell me what is so bad about these:
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Picture quality is excellent! Would you please share some of the settings and an idea of lighting. Thanks!
it's really not as bad as other says, but it's not really that good. The bokeh in the last picture for example is pretty poor. There is also a lot of colour noise which you can see.
My biggest problem with it is the colour isn't accurate, sometimes it oversaturates way too much.
Here's my small impression:
http://imgur.com/a/R7cIo
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Picture quality is excellent! Would you please share some of the settings and an idea of lighting. Thanks!
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Thanks. Settings used:
Mode - Manual
Camera frame - 4:3
Picture Quality - High
Exposure Settings - Spot Metering
Contrast - Normal
Saturation - Normal
Sharpness - Higher
Iso - The lower the better due to noise. I usually use 100 or max 200. Any higher and noise levels will be too high.
Exposure - For beginners this is the tricky part. It all depends on available light. The higher the exposure the better, however, you need very good light for 500 or more. Otherwise in good to decent lighting you can use 60 or 100.
In really poor lighting you may have to go as low as 15 or 30 shutter speed. However, unless you have very calm hands you may get camera shake resulting in a slightly blurry image. It's hard to explain but practice various shutter speeds yourself in different lighting conditions to experience it for yourself.
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it's really not as bad as other says, but it's not really that good. The bokeh in the last picture for example is pretty poor. There is also a lot of colour noise which you can see.
My biggest problem with it is the colour isn't accurate, sometimes it oversaturates way too much.
Here's my small impression:
http://imgur.com/a/R7cIo
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I do agree the bokkeh can be a little fuzzy but then again most camera phones are. You cannot compare the bokkeh from a camera phone to a DSLR.
With regards to noise, I do agree that there is slight noise even at Iso 100 and 200. That said, most other camera phones have some image noise due to the small sensors...
Still, should you have decent lighting, the Mi Mix is capable at taking some good pictures as long as it's set up correctly and the photographer knows what he is doing, not just point and shoot.
With regards to low light, there is no existing phone that can take decent images. Difficult and sensor size is too small. All you can do is either to balance the phone, use self timer and drop the exposure to 1/8 or even 1/4th of a second to get a clean image.
There will be some image noise due to the available light /darkness but these are the limits for any camera phone, not only the Mi Mix.
FYI, on the Mi 10 Ultra, this should be the clearance you will need to have for phone clamps and gimbals if you don't want them to appear in the shot of the ultrawide camera.
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Phone clamps will have to be mounted off-center to the right.
It's possible that the only way to mount this in a gimbal without getting part of the clamp or gimbal in the shot would likely be to use a tray-style gimbal (not a clamp style ie. DJI Osmo 2/3, Zhiyun Smooth X, Hohem iSteady X, etc.) with a way to offset the phone or add counterweights.
I'm eager to hear about personal experiences with gimbals on this phone though!
We still don't know if the geometric center is the center of gravity though. I wonder if the battery weight could move the center of gravity away from the camera system.
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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We still don't know if the geometric center is the center of gravity though. I wonder if the battery weight could move the center of gravity away from the camera system.
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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The geometric center is almost assuredly not the center of gravity. Most every other phone has the center of gravity towards the charging port (right side in the diagram) but the huge problems with the Mi 10 Ultra are that:
- The ultrawide lens is the lens closest to the center of the phone, which is an incredibly stupid thing for Xiaomi to do. They've done the same on the Mi 9 and other Mi 10 phones as well, so this isn't new or special for Xiaomi. It's a dumb design flaw that has persisted across multiple iterations of their phones.
- The ultrawide lens is the widest ultrawide on any smartphone right now.
- Any infringement on the ultrawide will be occurring on the horizontal side of videos shot in landscape orientation, so you don't be able to crop in without losing a ton of resolution and field of view.
You see why I'm interested in:
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So, 8k on every lens except for the 2x?
Any info on the bitrate, fps, manual mode for 8k?
Do you think the phone could be balanced on a gimbal and UW be used in 8k?
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And we're back to my solution - shooting in 8k UW, zooming, cropping and producing 4k.
Probably not the best for anyone but I'm currently working that way. Using a phone as a B cam, shooting in 4k and cropping but, as you can imagine, quality is far from perfect.
That's why I so hope Mi 10 ultra shoots high quality UW 8k and gives me some control over the process.
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You see why I'm interested in:
And we're back to my solution - shooting in 8k UW, zooming, cropping and producing 4k.
Probably not the best for anyone but I'm currently working that way. Using a phone as a B cam, shooting in 4k and cropping but, as you can imagine, quality is far from perfect.
That's why I so hope Mi 10 ultra shoots high quality UW 8k and gives me some control over the process.
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8k is not available on the ultrawide:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/com...c2qct?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I have been using this for a week and had no problems with it. Exaggeration that u need to hold it awkwardly or fingers will be in the viewfinder.
Thanks for the clarification. Did you try to mount it in a gimbal and shooting UW?
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Thanks for the clarification. Did you try to mount it in a gimbal and shooting UW?
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I don't have the phone, but just by looking at the measurements I can't imagine how any gimbal could work on this with the ultrawide. If it's not the clamp and roll motor immediately getting into the view, the tilt motor probably would.
I'm also unable to find any videos shot on YouTube with the ultrawide and a gimbal for any of the previous Xiaomi phones with their ultrawide in a similar position on the phone.
I don't understand gimbals much because I never looked into them but based on the above info: when you need a gimbal, would it be possible to attach a removable lead or iron weight to the bottom of the phone to bring the center of gravity way towards that end?
Impossible to use with a gimbal
I bought the mi 10 ultra due to the wider opening angle of the market in wide camera. I tested all the shooting modes and in all of them there is a specific phone stabilization system EXCEPT the video made with the wide camera, which makes the use of the gimbal mandatory if you want a stable video. But the wide camera is in the MIDDLE of the device, that is, the arm and the motor of the gimbal cover all the video on the right side of the scene. Some users are saying to crop the video, but crop videos do not require the gimbal, yet if you want to use it, the gimbal still appears.
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I bought the mi 10 ultra due to the wider opening angle of the market in wide camera. I tested all the shooting modes and in all of them there is a specific phone stabilization system EXCEPT the video made with the wide camera, which makes the use of the gimbal mandatory if you want a stable video. But the wide camera is in the MIDDLE of the device, that is, the arm and the motor of the gimbal cover all the video on the right side of the scene. Some users are saying to crop the video, but crop videos do not require the gimbal, yet if you want to use it, the gimbal still appears.
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Which gimbal are you using??
Out of curiosity, I compared my X90 Pro+ at an event to my Sony A9 (paid £2500) with a £1500 sony lens attached.
Used the Vivo 2x zoom, so not even the best lens on the camera. Indoors in a not particularly well lit room, with ceiling lights messing with skin tones.
While there are of course differences, I am amazed how well the Vivo holds up. The screen behind looks better on the Vivo thanks to the great hdr processing, and details are retained really well on the jacket.
This is not to say it can do what the £4000 Sony combo can, but proving the point that mobile photography has come a really long way and that the Vivo is a top pick - even if the Chinese are spying on you
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200% crop for pixel peepers:
I also took some snaps around my local area - this one was picked for some of our marketing collateral.
With the Sony, I would have to use a tripod to get the long exposure. Amazingly, this was done handheld leaning against a pillar
Night shot with the 2x lens (edit):
I had this phone for just a few days and yet to get around to all the features - once I master it 100% I'm sure it will be part of my work equipment.
Thanks a lot for sharing. It truly is amazing how far smartphone cameras have come. Vivo's work is very commendable. You also have a good choice in cameras. The alpha series of cameras are amazing for their versatility.
The Vivo X90 Pro+ does have a very reputable and somewhat even famous Sony sensor so it might be why it holds up so well. Especially with the post processing. If you hadn't labeled which device took which photo, I would have had a very hard time picking which was which.
I'll be taking mine to the jungles of Australia in about a month and I cannot wait to see what I can capture there.
Enjoy your phone.
The photos are great, but you had good subjects. Try the portrait in front of a complex background or on someone with long curly hair. Short hair cut and simple background are really easy for AI Blur.
Still even easy on the close up some mistakes are visible (e.g. the view through the left side of the glasses).
Also I think it's way more important for professional work to get reliable shots where you know how they will work out, and usability on the functions, Integration with external Equipment like microphone/flash and so on. All things not possible on a smartphone. Plus speed of changing modes (flip a wheel, hit the shutter button) and a lot more. It's not the quality of shots that turn out well that make a smartphone unusable (for video much more than photo), but the shots that do not turn out well.
With the smartphone and the AI and every firmware update changing how things work, they are simply not tools for professional photography, but can be an addition in some situations. So far they are far away from being a full replacement.
extremecarver said:
The photos are great, but you had good subjects. Try the portrait in front of a complex background or on someone with long curly hair. Short hair cut and simple background are really easy for AI Blur.
Still even easy on the close up some mistakes are visible (e.g. the view through the left side of the glasses).
Also I think it's way more important for professional work to get reliable shots where you know how they will work out, and usability on the functions, Integration with external Equipment like microphone/flash and so on. All things not possible on a smartphone. Plus speed of changing modes (flip a wheel, hit the shutter button) and a lot more. It's not the quality of shots that turn out well that make a smartphone unusable (for video much more than photo), but the shots that do not turn out well.
With the smartphone and the AI and every firmware update changing how things work, they are simply not tools for professional photography, but can be an addition in some situations. So far they are far away from being a full replacement.
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I did not suggest the Vivo will be a replacement for my Sony equipment - I just did a casual test to check how they would stack up against each other in a typical work scenario. Yes, zooming in reveals the bokeh is not perfect as will be the case on any phone, and yes, adding microphone/flash is obviously not going to work.
I am well aware of the limitations of mobile photography. Point of this is just to show how the quality of images is getting closer - and that it is good enough to be an addition to the pro equipment. For instance, I have been using my p30 pro for wide angle snaps of venues where I photograph. The Vivo will do this too, only better.
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I did not suggest the Vivo will be a replacement for my Sony equipment
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To quite a few people they get this impression however on the various DSLR vs smartphone "tests".
E.g. for Video I would take an old Canon XL-H1 over any smartphone if I had to shoot a movie. Even though it only supports 1080i (not even 1080P).
I would argue that even the older SD resolution 3chip prosumer Video cameras are better able to tell a story vs a modern smartphone - because if you shoot a movie the auto white balance with the actor looking different in any scene and other problems will make it hard to grip your viewer. Then of course no - I would never use such old equipment anymore but picture quality is simply just one aspect.
If I shoot something and only later discover on my PC that the aperture or color balance is so off that I cannot fix it - it simply means I failed my job. There are situations where the smartphone can supplement or even replace professional equipment - it's well visible nowadays in press conferences how many people resort to smartphones - especially if it's only for press and not tv stations.
Usability and reliablility will never catch up - while pure picture quality may even overtake? Overtake is a bit hard because the manufacturers like Sony, Canon, Nikon, Red and others could always just build their products around a smartphone chip. I mean that's kinda how Red revolutionized the Film market.
They used camera chips, coupled them with immense cooling - and got a video camera that beats out film. But should sensors for smartphones ever surpass sensors for DSLR (unlikely as long as there is a potent market for DSLR) - DSLR could just go for smartphone sensors, snapdgragon processors - and build a hardware around it that has way better usability than a simple touchscreen.
100% crop of X90 Pro+ (90mm lens) vs. Sony a6400 (75mm lens + digital). Indoor shot at night.
A pro photographer will know which one is which, but I'm not sure which one is better
@Haskren Your photography skills are amazing!
Another snap tonight