Think this only a VZW issue. I have my old Note 3 that I go back and forth between with my N6. If you are a busy person not just playing on the phone really using it for travel with GPS, email with exchange, busy with calls, etc. etc how are you all making it without Advance Calling to handle data and voice at the same time?
For me driving long hours using Google Maps and talking not able to look new address while on call and handle data is a killer...same with long conference calls and needing to send emails while on call or look up data via browser, dropbox, evernotes, etc and daily support stuff I do on my phone. So for time being I switch sims back and forth (have a nano to micro sim adapter) to my Note 3 more on it right now vs N6.
Thoughts?
yup, verizon issue(maybe sprint issue as well). im on tmobile, and have had voice and data at the same time since at least 2004, when i joined tmobile. even now, without volte. during a call, it swirches to hspa+ from lte(no calls through lte). and get high speed data, while on a phone call. but ill be honest, its really rare that i need the data while im on a phine call
May be a Verizon issue. ATT has no problem either. I make calls and use data all the time. One of the reasons I switched from Verizon many years ago before they added the functionality
Not sure I have ever used it. Not sure why you don't use a laptop... Superior in pretty much every imaginable way to a phone to actually get work done. I guess I work for a financial institution, so we don't use consumer stuff like Dropbox for data, and even if we did, a phone screen would be more trouble to use than its worth. And in my personal life, I'm a gringo middle aged dad...I use maybe 20 minutes a month, lol. So the reason it gets delayed is because most people have no use for it, or frankly never really thought about the fact that they can't do it.
I am a cable guy and believe me or not, the n6 is my daily driver. I had spent hours doing research to make sure that it would be a solid phone but it's hard to find a post about something that isn't supported yet. So I blindly traded my note 4 for a nexus 6. Still the best decision I've made all year.
I require a data connection 150% of the time. I also spend a lot of time on the phone, calling Comcast or my dispatch. The often ask for info that I can only reach with a data connection. Luckily, I have a lg gpad 8.3 lte that I use for that access but it's still very aggravating not being able to do that at all. It slows down my work a lot
I am on verizon and this really isn't a problem. I assume you have a Google voice account. You can make voip calls from within hangouts now. If your going to be on a call where you also need data just use the hangouts dialer. Problem solved.
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I am on verizon and this really isn't a problem. I assume you have a Google voice account. You can make voip calls from within hangouts now. If your going to be on a call where you also need data just use the hangouts dialer. Problem solved.
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Yeah, but that charges the call over data against your data cap... If Verizon would take Hangouts data and exclude it from your data cap, then I'd be all for this solution. Otherwise, Verizon needs to simply enable IMS VoLTE support, so that any Lollipop device can have VoLTE!
That's true but the amount of data those calls use is pretty negligible IMO.
Thanks all these are all great replies good feedback. Being so mobile my phone is always with me and just easier with a BTW headset look at phone and do task while on a call but seeing N6 now will have to wait.
I do have a cellular Samsung Note 10.1 tablet I never carry so to one person point I guess I will travel and carry it more just hate the extra load
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Has anyone with another device on their account (perhaps a Turbo) tried switching lines, enabling Advanced calling, and then switching back to see if this would actually work? My wife has a Turbo, so I'm tempted to try it out, but wanted to see if anyone else had already tried.
Im going to be buying a new device and i want one that i can unlock the bootloader and root and so far the nexus 6 is what im leaning towards. I currently have the vzw Lg g3 and love it, im gonna be keeping my G3 as a backup. I also like the note 4 but the bootloader unlock is a no go as far as i know. I also like playing modern combat on my g3 without any lagging. Which device would you suggest and why. I just wanna be 100% before i pay out the @SS for a phone. Help me make up my mind. Thank ya
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I have recently thought of leaving sprint because of there embarrassing services and was wondering if i can still use my hero with out a service provider??? if there was a program i could run on it?? I have so much money into my phone and would hate to not use it. i believe i can use the wifi part for data not sure?? but i want to make cals n stuff is there and type of hack i can use i am using fresh toast2.1. with a radio update. Thank You for the help. Sprint truely does not know how to run a company and man i bought my phone for full price!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE
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I have recently thought of leaving sprint because of there embarrassing services and was wondering if i can still use my hero with out a service provider??? if there was a program i could run on it?? I have so much money into my phone and would hate to not use it. i believe i can use the wifi part for data not sure?? but i want to make cals n stuff is there and type of hack i can use i am using fresh toast2.1. with a radio update. Thank You for the help. Sprint truely does not know how to run a company and man i bought my phone for full price!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE
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The phone doesn't just stop powering on after you cancel your service.
There are some illegal things you could do to bring it to another carrier... you can always use Data on wifi. I have read of some people using it for a simple PDA/Media player when they are done with it.
I for one am 100% happy with sprints customer service and cell service. Updating the phone could have happened quicker, but hey what do you do.
They have yet to do me wrong. Best cell company I have ever worked with and a heck of a good price.
When I left Verizon and told them I was going to Sprint and told them the price, the retentions department didn't even put up a fight because they knew they couldn't touch Sprints price.
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You may be able to use Google Voice over Wifi to place calls, but I am not sure. I doubt you would be able to recieve them since the registered phone number would be disconnected.
And my tethering with Spint is 3 times faster than it was with Verizon, and I acutally paid verizon the extra 15 a month for it....huge waste.
you could use skype to make calls over wifi
otherwise you will just have a PDA
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You may be able to use Google Voice over Wifi to place calls, but I am not sure. I doubt you would be able to recieve them since the registered phone number would be disconnected.
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That's a no-go Ghost Ryder. I'm currently service-less and Google Voice won't route over Wifi for calls, SMS will however. Now, if you set up the proper SIP accounts, you can use your Google Voice account through those SIPs to make and receive calls via Sipdroid. Google will pull up how-to's.
As for those lesser than legal matters, that's what I'm about to do myself. Ever done it first hand?
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That's a no-go Ghost Ryder. I'm currently service-less and Google Voice won't route over Wifi for calls, SMS will however. Now, if you set up the proper SIP accounts, you can use your Google Voice account through those SIPs to make and receive calls via Sipdroid. Google will pull up how-to's.
As for those lesser than legal matters, that's what I'm about to do myself. Ever done it first hand?
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Nope, but it doesn't look too complicated from what I have seen.
Depending on who you flash too MMS may recieve but not send, and Data may/not work.
Seems like some poeple are using better cut to route proxy info stuff through opera to achieve data.
I went through the same type of thing when I went from my touch pro to the hero. I still wanted to use my touch pro as a dedicated gps since at the time there werent any decent ones available on android. anyways, I had then went and set up a similar thing for making calls via the wifi using GV, sipgate, and I believe it was fring....I forget. Basically I would go on my phone browser to google voice, initiate the call from the website, then fring would ring on my touch pro and finish connecting the call. lawl, I just set up my brother's fiance's phone to do that since she is going to Germany for the summer this weekend...so she and my bro can talk for free (though she needs wifi which her dorm over there will have)
Ya, I definitely hear ya about Sprint.....it's funny, I get so so service in my house, yet about 2 miles down the road is a sprint store and as soon as I pull out onto the main drag BAAAAAM insta full signal >.<
As annoyed as I am I will not go back to verizon......way to rich for my blood LOL.
Here is a quick how to for the easiest way to accomplish the free calls thing via wifi. It's a little dated but the info is still good me thinks. The only thing is that you'd have to go to google.com/voice on your phone and (thankfully having all contacts synced to google) initiate the call/sms from there. To get it so you can actually dial out from the phone would require ALOT more configuring and can be annoying. So try this first, make sure it works and then if you want to get more jiggy with it, then figure out the whole "SIPSORCERY.com" thingy.
Good luck
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=100470
Thank You i am going to try and run the sipdroid and google voice idea i kinda wish there was a app too pick up a wi fi signal with increase strenght so i can use my phone everywhere instead of just home and local buisnesses lol. If you have any ideas to pick up further signals or wifi everywhere let me know also if you have and more ideas on the talk for free let me know thank you.
no dice there my friend haha, here is a thought. think of the phone as a cordless phone for home also, just keep in mind that the audio quality isn't going to be 100%. There will be a delay, there will be some compression artifacts, but hey at least its a free alternative to home phone right?
EDIT: being in a strong wifi environment will DEFINITELY help with quality as it has more umph to work with
i noticed when i read the how to guide u posted thaqt airplane mode will disable the cdma radio did it work so i can keep my battery lol?
heh, not certain. like I said, it's dated stuff not sure how to have only wifi on.
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Nope, but it doesn't look too complicated from what I have seen.
Depending on who you flash too MMS may recieve but not send, and Data may/not work.
Seems like some poeple are using better cut to route proxy info stuff through opera to achieve data.
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Well I'm actually not switching carriers. I was on a family plan, then a divorce hits, and everyone is refusing to pay the delinquent bill - point being, my phone is tied to that account and can't be used on any other account until the bill is paid. So, I'm hoping to sprinkle some voodoo magic on my Hero, then slap it on a new account with the same carrier.
I dont see why you dont convert the phone over to cricket service (if you have it) and just pay 35 dollars for talk and web. I mean minus well right?
I recently switched from an iPhone 5 to the One Dev Edition. After having some signal issues, I went to AT&T, got a microSIM, they switched me an Android data plan, etc. But I'm still having an issue where I can't reliably send and receive calls, especially from my desk at work. I can dial the number and hit Call but that's it. No ringing, nothing. Just dead air, then the "call" ends. If the call does go through, I can hear the other person but they can't hear me. Same thing when receiving a call. I'll hear them but they can't hear me. Sometimes my phone won't ring and it just rolls to voice mail. I can see the signal switching from LTE to H, etc, and I have practically full bar strength. I just don't understand why the calls aren't going through.
Is this an issue with the phone itself? Something with AT&T? Is there a newer radio firmware I can try flashing? I didn't have any issues with the iPhone 5, and I even had my coworker put his iPhone into field test mode so we could compare the numeric signal and they're about even, though the iPhone usually does have a slightly better db signal. I really like the One but not being able to send or receive calls while at my desk is a deal breaker.
Thanks!
From the sounds of it, you are running the stock firmware still? Any root or other possible modifications? If you answered Yes then no to those questions, I would head back to the AT&T store and have them try it out, if anything they should be able to take your SIM card and put it into another Android device and see what happens.
What about text/data, do those work?
You said mainly at your desk you notice this issue, so does that mean it happens at other places as well, same symptoms (full bars, allows to send call then nothing?) You may just be the lucky contestant with a defunct unit, HTC should be able to help you out.
I would suggest first going to AT&T store, try out their suggestions, then if anything give HTC a call/email to see if they can be of any help. At this point I would stay away from flashing custom radios as they may void your warranty then you will really be up $hit creek.
Sounds like att.
I had this problem with tmobile once. The signal wasn't strong enough and it wouldn't call.
Some please are spotty.
Something is wrong with your phone. That should be obvious. Of course the vast majority of people who got this phone can reliably make and receive calls or it would be the biggest mobile phone bust in history.
Sorry to be blunt but you already know it's not the signal so it has to be a defect in the phone.
Thanks for the suggestions. This is the stock Dev Edition ROM. I haven't made any changes other other than just installing apps.
I haven't made a lot of calls but I don't seem to have an issue any where else.
No issues with LTE. Data has been fine.
I wasn't sure if AT&T would assist since this is the Dev Edition but that's worth a shot to have them run some tests on it. Otherwise I'll try to get a replacement (or refund) from HTC.
Thanks!
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Not sure if this affect others but with Verizon not having the Advance Call 1.0 is becoming harder for me to live without... Plus I am on 3G only although there are some VZW N6 users who get LTE but I still don't think they can talk and use data together?
So coming from a wonderful rooted Note 3 on VZW, I am an IT Engineer and travel a lot for my job. With the Note 3, I
>> Travel and use device for GPS solely. But using other data phone activities while GPS is active
>> When traveling I need to answer support calls if a server goes down and this can be while driving using GPS. If so then I need voice, data & GPS
>> Long conference calls avg time 1 hr so to be able to use web, text, data while on a call is a need. Many times i am traveling not sitting at a desk need phone
I adore the N6 have it rooted and works well but today another day of travel I was using GPS but needed web to find product info, can't. Also recently was on a long business conf call and wife texted a urgent question but could not send a text back due to being on a bus call, etc. etc.. Same happened once when I was on GPS and text would not send...thought that was strange
I want to keep the phone but the need for production is weighing heavy on me and I did not realize how import LTE or I should say Advance Call 1.0 was important and needed for my day to day business & job
Any of you in this boat where the N6 is great but being early adopters is killing your need for voice and data both together?
My assumption this is a VZW only issue and not for other carriers they can do both together?
Has anyone refunded their N6 and just keeping a watch on how the N6 progress?
Hope soon VZW will add Advance Call for N6 or someone can cook it in a rom but curious of others thoughts who may be in a similar pinch?
I don't think there will be carrier specific updates. I think Google will enable this and WiFi calling in February with the 5.1 update.
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I don't think there will be carrier specific updates. I think Google will enable this and WiFi calling in February with the 5.1 update.
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Would be nice if Google would do so just the timeline and the "if" factor is killing me otherwise a great phone...
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Would be nice if Google would do so just the timeline and the "if" factor is killing me otherwise a great phone...
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"'In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." so with that being said we may never know until its released. I have seen it mentioned on here several times with regards to WiFi calling, so one can assume that VoLTE will follow suit.
When there is going to be a thread for Urbane 2nd gen? It is out for almost a week now. I can not believe that nobody got it?
That's a good question. I am also waiting for it.
Came here to ask the same question. Lots of other people have it on android central forms. Please create a thread!!
I agree. I have one and keep checking back here
Your experience with the Urbane 2 LTE
Hi there, I'm also waiting on a forum. But, in the meantime, I'm thinking seriously about buying an Urbane 2 LTE, but have several concerns and thought perhaps you guys might be able to answer them. And all of my questions relate to when it is NOT connected to my smartphone.
1. Will it send and receive calls even when connected to wifi (I don't mean through wifi as I know that isn't possible)? I read in one review that this was a problem.
2. Can I receive my Exchange email through the watch?
3. Are you able to connect to a secured wifi network (i.e., insert a password) without being connected to your phone? Again, this concern came up in a recent review.
4. Can the watch accept Google Voice text messages?
5. How is the call quality talking (for the person you call) and listening (is the speaker loud enough under normal conditions)?
6. Can you easily connect the watch to a bluetooth headset?
7. How is OK Google working? One reviewer said it failed a bunch.
8. How well does it maintain a steady data connection with a link to a phone? Another reviewer concern.
9.
FYI, verizon launch was canceled and all pre-orders orders will be canceled. Big red strikes again.
Same here. I got mine from AT&T on Tuesday. Love it so far.
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Hi there, I'm also waiting on a forum. But, in the meantime, I'm thinking seriously about buying an Urbane 2 LTE, but have several concerns and thought perhaps you guys might be able to answer them. And all of my questions relate to when it is NOT connected to my smartphone.
1. Will it send and receive calls even when connected to wifi (I don't mean through wifi as I know that isn't possible)? I read in one review that this was a problem.
2. Can I receive my Exchange email through the watch?
3. Are you able to connect to a secured wifi network (i.e., insert a password) without being connected to your phone? Again, this concern came up in a recent review.
4. Can the watch accept Google Voice text messages?
5. How is the call quality talking (for the person you call) and listening (is the speaker loud enough under normal conditions)?
6. Can you easily connect the watch to a bluetooth headset?
7. How is OK Google working? One reviewer said it failed a bunch.
8. How well does it maintain a steady data connection with a link to a phone? Another reviewer concern.
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My experiences so far on the AT&T Urbane LTE and a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 5:
1. Yes, as far as I can tell as it has its own SIM card, so it has a full cellular radio in it and has its own phone # assigned to it.
2. I don't think it has a full email client on it that I have found anyway. I am also an exchange user trying to find how to get notifications.
3. Yes, you can join WiFi networks that use a passkey/password, but nothing certificate based. Mine pulled the ones my phone knew of.
4. Kind-of. I took the Phone # assigned to the watch and added it to Google Voice as another phone. The notifications I get on a GV Text Message show the random numbers that GV uses as a portal, not the actual # of the person sending me a text message. I don't think there is a google voice app for android wear. At least not one I have found.
5. I think the call quality from the watch itself is quite good. Plenty loud enough and definitely clear. I wouldn't use it often, but in a pinch I wouldn't hesitate to use it either.
6. I have not tried this yet, but I will and let you know.
7. OK Google has not failed me yet. It is responsive and works just like it would on a Nexus Phone as far as I can tell.
8. As far as I can tell, the connection (bluetooth) between my Note 5 and the Urbane is quite robust. I went down the hall to the restroom in my office and left my phone on my desk. I had a phone call on my Note 5 while I was away from my desk and it "rang" on my watch just fine.
As an afterthought, it is probably worth noting that as I am not a current AT&T customer, I bought the watch outright with no contract for $299 so I wasn't locked into a data plan more than month-to-month. As such, I am currently paying a ridiculous $30 a month for a measly 300MB of data for the watch by itself and I am still trying to determine exactly how, when, where, and why it uses data on its own 3G/LTE radio.
I don't plan to separate the watch and my phone often, and I can't see the need to make a voice call on the watch without using my phone, so I am not sure I am going to keep the data plan from AT&T until I learn more about how it works. I have one of those "free" 200MB per month SIM cards from T-Mobile, and I can tell you the watch does NOT appear to be SIM-locked, much to my surprise.
More experimentation to follow. I'd love to hear what others have learned in using theirs thus far.
-Rob
Great insights!
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Same here. I got mine from AT&T on Tuesday. Love it so far.
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My experiences so far on the AT&T Urbane LTE and a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 5:
1. Yes, as far as I can tell as it has its own SIM card, so it has a full cellular radio in it and has its own phone # assigned to it.
2. I don't think it has a full email client on it that I have found anyway. I am also an exchange user trying to find how to get notifications.
3. Yes, you can join WiFi networks that use a passkey/password, but nothing certificate based. Mine pulled the ones my phone knew of.
4. Kind-of. I took the Phone # assigned to the watch and added it to Google Voice as another phone. The notifications I get on a GV Text Message show the random numbers that GV uses as a portal, not the actual # of the person sending me a text message. I don't think there is a google voice app for android wear. At least not one I have found.
5. I think the call quality from the watch itself is quite good. Plenty loud enough and definitely clear. I wouldn't use it often, but in a pinch I wouldn't hesitate to use it either.
6. I have not tried this yet, but I will and let you know.
7. OK Google has not failed me yet. It is responsive and works just like it would on a Nexus Phone as far as I can tell.
8. As far as I can tell, the connection (bluetooth) between my Note 5 and the Urbane is quite robust. I went down the hall to the restroom in my office and left my phone on my desk. I had a phone call on my Note 5 while I was away from my desk and it "rang" on my watch just fine.
As an afterthought, it is probably worth noting that as I am not a current AT&T customer, I bought the watch outright with no contract for $299 so I wasn't locked into a data plan more than month-to-month. As such, I am currently paying a ridiculous $30 a month for a measly 300MB of data for the watch by itself and I am still trying to determine exactly how, when, where, and why it uses data on its own 3G/LTE radio.
I don't plan to separate the watch and my phone often, and I can't see the need to make a voice call on the watch without using my phone, so I am not sure I am going to keep the data plan from AT&T until I learn more about how it works. I have one of those "free" 200MB per month SIM cards from T-Mobile, and I can tell you the watch does NOT appear to be SIM-locked, much to my surprise.
More experimentation to follow. I'd love to hear what others have learned in using theirs thus far.
-Rob
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Really helpful, Rob! I can't wait till xda gets a forum for this smarthwatch.
I had a typo for #8. I'm interested in the quality and consistency of the data connection when NOT connected to your phone.
A few follow-up questions.
1. So it sounds like you receive GV text messages even with a funky sender #. But can you also send texts through GV? I seem recall reading that Hangouts (into which GV is now integrated) has a smartwatch app. But I find Hangouts cumbersome because you have to go through several screens to just get to text messages.
2. Without Exchange, what are you doing about email? I emailed an called Nine that appears to do what we want, but haven't heard back. Will report when I do.
I'm going to test out a U2 (that's a much better shortened name!) this morning and will report back if I learn anything.
Many thanks!
I just downloaded and installed the Nine email client. It seems to work great, but I can't figure out how or where to enable Wear notifications.
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I just downloaded and installed the Nine email client. It seems to work great, but I can't figure out how or where to enable Wear notifications.
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I haven't explored it much yet. Did you install Nine on your watch as well? Perhaps go to their customer support and email them?
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I haven't explored it much yet. Did you install Nine on your watch as well? Perhaps go to their customer support and email them?
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I didn't see an option to install it on the watch. I sent a query to them.
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I didn't see an option to install it on the watch. I sent a query to them.
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Here a few possibilities:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.bluemail.mail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.office.outlook
None of them indicate specifically about standalone smartwatches, but they say they are for Android Wear.
Also, do you have a gmail account? I believe there is a way to have Exchange email forwarded to gmail and have emails from gmail to show your Exchange email address.
Oh, is there a keyboard for inputting texts and emails?
BTW, did you see this app? Looks really practical: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.npi.wearminilauncher
It looks like something happened. Watch are out of stock on AT&T web site, Verizon cancelled pre orders and no information on LG web site about watch.
I Will have to wait much longer than i expected for availability in europe.
@robroy90 hey dude when you make your wirst go up.. does it push the crown everytime.. would be cool if we could put the watch on the other hand and the screen will rotate accordingly
LG Watch Urbane 2 has been canceled indefinitely
http://www.techradar.com/news/wearables/lg-urbane-2-has-been-canceled-indefinitely-1309332
while I have an love mine, I am still going to wait for a more detailed reason other then Unspecified Hardware Issue. I had it for a week tomorrow and the only issue I have is LTE connection is spotty at best, it seems to be stuck mostly on HSPA
One negative effect is see from this is software updates. When I had the LG G watch, I remember that being rooted. So if this "issue" is nothing to major, maybe someone with the experience will be able to root this beast so we can essentially still have updates, just not from LG specifically
Wow. I wonder why they were shelved? I was going to upgrade to this from a G Watch.
Maybe we can find them on a fire clearance sale?
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@robroy90 hey dude when you make your wirst go up.. does it push the crown everytime.. would be cool if we could put the watch on the other hand and the screen will rotate accordingly
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I have no issues with gestures engaging the crown button. I am not sure I follow the second part of your comment.
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Wow, glad I grabbed mine so aggressively when I did. I am not going to blindly just return mine (unless my wrist catches on fire... lol). I would like a detailed explanation on what this "serious hardware issue is". As far as it maybe being an issue where it drops to HSPA in an otherwise strong LTE service area, I could not care less. I don't think my watch needs the blazing fast speeds of LTE anyway. Someone posted about how cool it would be for it to be a hotspot?!? What, for 10 minutes before the battery dies... LOL. I am happy, and unless mine starts acting really wonky, I am definitely keeping it.
Well regardless of possible reasons, I'll be keeping mine. Yeah its only been a few days with the watch, but it has been a few days of heavy usage bliss. This is the first smart watch, that I have ever used, that does everything well, (well at least the things that are important for me to have in a smartwatch). So a later patch not coming for my device, (can't speak for others owners), won't be so bad for me, since everything I want to work....works great already, and if I return it, what other option is out there? All the other watches I tried don't work as good as this one for the things I want to work.....and this one has the best battery life to boot. Besides, I don't know why everyone thinks a software update won't come. Google controls android wear, an I don't think their going to not update their software.
If they scrap this one and release a new one a year from now, I'll check out that option when that bridge is crossed, but in the mean time, i'm keeping this bad boy.
Oh and if anyone has every used watchmaker before (lets you design your own watch faces), It appears to be working great for me. Just a heads up.
I was lucky enough to buy one of these from AT&T without a contract a couple of days before they were pulled. So far the watch is great. Battery life is good, calls are clear, and the screen is big and bright. However, there is one major flaw: You can't pair a Bluetooth headset to the watch and use it for voice calls. I tried a few different Bluetooth headsets, and they can only be used for audio playback. The only way to send and receive voice calls is using the integrated speaker and microphone on the watch. Another minor annoyance is you must have the phone with you to connect to a new WiFi network. If you try to connect to a new WiFi network using the settings on the watch, it asks you to enter the password on the phone.
The inability to use a Bluetooth headset for calls is pretty big weakness compared to other smart watches, but probably not severe enough to pull the watches from the shelves. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the device is unlocked, and it is so easy to switch carriers without a contract. Also, AT&T was offering this device at the same cost of an LTE tablet ($10/month), but the watch has a SIM that supports both voice and data which usually costs 3-4 times as much. I tried using the watch SIM in an Android smartphone, and it seemed to work fine.
Please excuse me if this post is a bit off, this is the first time I have posted here.
I really didn't want to pony up the $1000 for the full version of the ROG Phone II, so I got the Tencent version. I didn't realize it had band compatibility issues with T-Mobile. After having the phone activated, I was told I probably wouldn't be able to get 4G or LTE on it. Not really the end of the world for me as I don't stream video and don't pay for lots of mobile data anyway.
Then I started to have some weird issues. I don't regularly receive SMS messages. If I do get them, they come hours or days late. Sometimes I get them instantaneously, but 2FA has been a real pain in the ass as those messages usually don't arrive. SMS from another phone pretty much never arrives.
I also don't receive phone calls. I will just get notified that I have a new voice mail and that's about it. Sometimes the phone calls go through, but I can't even estimate the failure rate on that one as I don't get allot of phone calls and most don't leave voicemails. I do get phone calls more often than I receive texts, but my wife did call me 11 times before see just got a hold of me via a non-sms messaging app.
As T-Mobile likes to relay heavily on VoLTE, and I know it doesn't work on this phone, I have tried taking it off of Wi-Fi just to see if I can get something to go through. I haven't been scientific about my testing, but I have yet to notice a difference on Wi-Fi or off.
I really don't know how to proceed about doing diagnostics on this phone. I really don't know enough about how SMS or Voice works to go forth and work it out. It is not beyond my ability to root my phone or proceed with using non-carrier distributed Android, I'm not just not certain I want to take that plunge without knowing more about what I have to do.
So here's my quandary:
Should I abandon the Tencent ROG Phone II and just sell it at a loss? Or should I troubleshoot this problem, and dive down the rabbit hole of custom Android, rooting my phone, attempting to get back VoLTE, actually getting updated to Android 10, and being able to use the LTE bands?
Thanks for reading this far. Do appreciate any help you can give.
Phone info:
ASUS ROG Phone II Tencent Version
Android 9, [email protected] #1
On T-Mobile USA
Not really sure what else to post about it.