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Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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But what's new. Samsung has newer been fast or early with updates.
They would have binned the 4.4.3 update and gone straight to 4.4.4 which makes sense really.
It shouldn't be too long now that we start seeing it roll out to the S5, but as always it's luck of the draw which region gets it first, & how long others have to wait until it reaches them which could be months.
No one really has a good track record when it comes to updates... sure sometimes some are better than others but if you want to go a non nexus device you have to deal with it
They are taking their time for sure... Sony, HTC already beat them to the punch (dunno about LG).
I only can remember the supposed document that didn't seem so real to be honest, when did Samsung publish an update schedule?
As said before in this thread, they most likely cancelled 4.4.3 to go all the way to 4.4.4 but even Sony has released that now.
i hope they will jump directly to android L
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They are taking their time for sure... Sony, HTC already beat them to the punch (dunno about LG).
I only can remember the supposed document that didn't seem so real to be honest, when did Samsung publish an update schedule?
As said before in this thread, they most likely cancelled 4.4.3 to go all the way to 4.4.4 but even Sony has released that now.
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Reason for that being that both HTC & Sony software's isn't as bloated as Touchwiz is, tbh i think this generation of Touchwiz is actually worst performance wise & looks than the last gen on the Note 3 & S4.
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Reason for that being that both HTC & Sony software's isn't as bloated as Touchwiz is, tbh i think this generation of Touchwiz is actually worst performance wise & looks than the last gen on the Note 3 & S4.
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Both Sony and HTC have a lot of code to add as well, but they are executing much better.
I suspect the delays are due to Samsung pushing a lot of devices at the same time and having limited engineering resources.
Most likely they are working on the Note 4 at the moment... and the 16 new devices they keep pushing every month.
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Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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Yes, you're the only one. Do you even know what .3 and .4 updates are? They're mostly security fixes that OEMs probably fixed in their builds before Google's own Nexus factory Android.
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guetzli32 said:
Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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A; we weren't promised the update at all. there was a rumour started because of a heavily cropped image
B,the minor security fixs were possibly put in the NG update we all just got
C you start the thread with a promise of discussion but the op is typical OEM slamming that ive come to expect.
D there is no D because the first 3 were so good
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Some nexus device owner bought nexus device(s) because they want to get the first taste of the new android software update. This time, Google seemed to broke their promise by delaying the update for Nexus 5 and letting LG G3 owners get their hands on Lollipop before Nexus 5 owners do And there's a big chance that the new moto x owners will too.
Not to mention now that many OEMs are promising more and more faster software update (moto, sony, htc, and now LG), do you guys think it's still worth it to own a Nexus device? I know there's still the other factor such as vanilla android, but that's it.
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Some nexus device owner bought nexus device(s) because they want to get the first taste of the new android software update. This time, Google seemed to broke their promise by delaying the update for Nexus 5 and letting LG G3 owners get their hands on Lollipop. And there's a big chance that the new moto x owners will too.
Not to mention now that many OEMs are promising more and more faster software update (moto, sony, htc, and now LG), do you guys think it's still worth it to own a Nexus device? I know there's still the other factor such as vanilla android, but that's it.
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I bought my Nexus 5 because at $350 it was the best deal. Faster updates was secondary since I run a third party ROM on my phone. IMO it's great that LG, Moto, and HTC has=ve committed to faster updates and hopefully the other OEMs follow suit.
Also let's not forget the fact that we've had access to Lollipop since Google I/O 2014 (June) when they released the Developer Preview while the other guys didn't.
Sigh. Did you forget we got a dev preview(s)? Did you miss the memo about there being bugs and that that's why it's delayed? A nexus device will still always be pure android. So no, I don't care that other OEM's are pushing it out faster. If fact that's a good thing for Android. For years Google has been trying to do what you're complaining about. It's only a week or two. In fact I hope it still happens, just so I can be amused by threads such as this.
I'd imagine all future incremental releases come faster to the nexus line than oems ...so I'll just wait...plan on getting a nexus 6 anyways...and who knows how long that will take lol
I think its a good thing OEMs are pushing out Android L so quickly.... so many OEMs don't update there phones at all or if they do its 5-7 months after a new release of android. In my opinion this is great news for Android. I would rather Google sit on the Lollipop for N5 and get the bugs resolved first then release it. Even if it means a month. I mean we have had the Dev preview since June, after all this time is it going to kill anyone to wait a little longer? I think everyone needs to calm down. I am enjoying this build of Lollipop:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...-android-lpv-dev-n5-enhanced-t2856934/page796
And it has been running excellent. So big thank you to al the devs who are working hard on these Android L roms. And when Google get official L out there we will all benefit from it, but in good time when Google feels its in tip top shape for the masses.
We need a new sub forum for rants!!
It really is great that oems are able to push out updates so soon.
Really don't see a point of ppl making new threads for this..
vbz89 said:
We need a new sub forum for rants!!
It really is great that oems are able to push out updates so soon.
Really don't see a point of ppl making new threads for this..
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no kind sir, as a matter of fact this is not a rant. the purpose of my thread is to see whether people really see a downgrade value in owning a Nexus device, since one of the main perks of owning a Nexus device is to be the first device to get a new Android software. and since it is true that we did get the developer preview, it couldn't be said that it was usable as a daily driver.
If the choice of words that i used in this thread may cause a confusion that some people think this is a rant thread, then i beg your pardon since my English is not sufficient enough.
I bought a N5 because it was a great price and I like pure Android. Is it really that big a deal that some other phone got updated a few days before the N5 did? People get way too nuts over updates. The N5 will have it soon, I promise.
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First world problems.......
I didn't buy it to be first to get updates....I bought it as a great value smartphone first and foremost, it still regardless of updates you know
I didn't buy it for the updates. I'm not upset by others releasing a bugged aosp source. It is a good thing for the ecosystem that the OEMS are releasing updates so quickly. Would you rather have update after quick update due to bugs, or one pretty solid release. No other line of devices got the official previews. The latest preview has been stable for a daily driver!
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no kind sir, as a matter of fact this is not a rant. the purpose of my thread is to see whether people really see a downgrade value in owning a Nexus device, since one of the main perks of owning a Nexus device is to be the first device to get a new Android software. and since it is true that we did get the developer preview, it couldn't be said that it was usable as a daily driver.
If the choice of words that i used in this thread may cause a confusion that some people think this is a rant thread, then i beg your pardon since my English is not sufficient enough.
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You should also read more closely. The article you are getting your information clearly stated lg is trying it in Poland not the US out any other major market.
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If you want to know the reason why I bought a nexus 5? I will answer this in Nov 2015 when Android M comes out and again we wait for its release on our nexus 5s(in 4-5 weeks) while other OEM flagship phones of current age wait in doubt of the release(4-5 months). I bought the device for it's solid software support, not necessarily faster but a solid 2-3 year support official support and most probably a 5 year community support. But then again most people sell the devices 2-3 years down the line.
It's not about other devices getting OTAs faster it's about getting the better of them all. I know this had been mentioned a couple of times before but LG G3 and the Moto X got a test release, something which we received 3-4months back I believe. Google does not abandon it's nexus range device without a proper goodbye.
There are more important things in the world.
It's really rather whether any device has an update. The reason for the delay is known, who would like Lollipop may already have run long.
And then I buy a Nexus because I like Nexus and not to previously have an update maybe a few days. Envy is something really repulsive.
Don't compare 2013 device with 2014 device.
If you really want to compare, please compare LG G3 vs Nexus 6 for 2014, which one is faster to get Lollipop.
2013 devices are LG G2 vs Nexus 5. Which one is faster? :silly:
Are you kidding??!!!!You could install it from 6 month ago.
LG g3 didn't receive anything yet. Just because there was an announcement doesn't mean its released. Besides I hear the nexus 5 gets it on the 12th
I would not trade my nexus 5 for an LG g. Besides, I have been running android l for months. Sure, it's great that os like lg and Motorola are taking the available 5.0 software and porting it to their devices, this is great for everyone.... but that software they are using is no further forward than is currently available for nexus devices.... They aren't getting a finished version.
What's the point in buying a nexus? That's something only you can decide for yourself. Buy what ever takes your fancy at the time
koricua74 said:
I bought my Nexus 5 because at $350 it was the best deal. Faster updates was secondary since I run a third party ROM on my phone. IMO it's great that LG, Moto, and HTC has=ve committed to faster updates and hopefully the other OEMs follow suit.
Also let's not forget the fact that we've had access to Lollipop since Google I/O 2014 (June) when they released the Developer Preview while the other guys didn't.
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For me faster updates were the most important thing than came the hardware specs..
The real question is when will the g2 get the updates g3 being the latest and greatest from LG is getting the update but the older devices will not get it for some time. However the nexus 4 and 5 are not the latest still they will get the update very soon. So if you plan on getting the latest flagship devices you don't need to worry about updates that much but if you plan on keeping your device for a few years nexus is still a great proposition.
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http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/572117/20141109/nexus-5-7-10-android-0-lollipop.htm#.VGB55PmG9E8
this is fast enought
I want to know whether moto x 2013 will get offical android 6.0 update or not bcause most of the websites doesnt include moto x 1st gen in the list of devices expected to get android 6.0
I think many would tell you it barely got 5.0 and likely won't get 5.1
VZW still on 4.4.4.
So basically very little chance.
Most likely the only official way to get 6.0 would be through Cyanogen. It's gotten old and carriers are already showing signs of cutting out support. But hey I see no reason why the hardware can't support it.
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bushako said:
Most likely the only official way to get 6.0 would be through Cyanogen. It's gotten old and carriers are already showing signs of cutting out support. But hey I see no reason why the hardware can't support it.
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Cyanogen isn't official...
In other news, I highly doubt Motorola/Lenovo will go to 6.0. They had to do all the hardware programming to make Lollipop work, and with the phone now 2 generations behind the latest, they probably won't devote any further resources to it unless there is another highly critical security update needed.
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**** no.
imnuts said:
Cyanogen isn't official...
In other news, I highly doubt Motorola/Lenovo will go to 6.0. They had to do all the hardware programming to make Lollipop work, and with the phone now 2 generations behind the latest, they probably won't devote any further resources to it unless there is another highly critical security update needed.
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For cyanogenmod users such as myself it is considered official interms of constant support and latest updates.
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For cyanogenmod users such as myself it is considered official interms of constant support and latest updates.
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Maybe it is official in the eyes of the CM team since there is a maintainer, but it is not an official update. Call up any carrier and tell them you have official CyanogenMod install on your phone and see what they tell you.
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Maybe it is official in the eyes of the CM team since there is a maintainer, but it is not an official update. Call up any carrier and tell them you have official CyanogenMod install on your phone and see what they tell you.
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Yes obviously it isn't the official update from Moto, I was only referring it to be official with regards to CM users which in my case is good enough regardless of whether Moto releases their own updates.
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Battery drain issue fix
Will they provide any update to fix the battery drain bug occured after the offical android 5.1 ???????????
Actually there is quite a big chance that this phone will get 6.0 at some point, may come very fast or xtra slow as it happened with lp, but since MM is essentially the same crap as LP, it probably won't take them that long.
It's too early to tell, but I don't think the Moto X will have a chance
Has anyone see this before, is it true?
http://www.lg.com/us/support/product-help/CT10000027-1399337819818-software-updates
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Those jokers. Maybe they wanted to show online that they updated the software to 5.1. But did not. D95920s was the update of last November if you Google the version info.
spyne82 said:
Has anyone see this before, is it true?
http://www.lg.com/us/support/product-help/CT10000027-1399337819818-software-updates
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I have already discussed this with LG and their dev team. The Flex (any variant) Will NOT receive Lollipop. Due to the sheer amount of bugs and software issues. Unless they are blowing crap loads of smoke like always. Rumor has it though, the Flex will most likely be receiving 6.0 marshmellow. During Q1 of 2016.
XDAkilla757 said:
I have already discussed this with LG and their dev team. The Flex (any variant) Will NOT receive Lollipop. Due to the sheer amount of bugs and software issues. Unless they are blowing crap loads of smoke like always. Rumor has it though, the Flex will most likely be receiving 6.0 marshmellow. During Q1 of 2016.
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Doesn't really make much sense for the G Flex and the G Pro 2 to not be updated to 5.1 due to "software issues" while their smaller sibling with almost identical hardware, the G2 seems to be getting it.
Anyways, here's hoping against hope that we'll see 6.0 someday.
Hmm....the site says that they have released 2 updates already for 5.1??? Why would they give the D959 an update and not anyone elses?
Oh wait.....this other link says that it wasnt really a Lollipop update but just a heavy OTA...
http://www.lg-phones.org/t-mobile-lg-g-flex-receiving-d95920s-update.html
xcsi said:
Hmm....the site says that they have released 2 updates already for 5.1??? Why would they give the D959 an update and not anyone elses?
Oh wait.....this other link says that it wasnt really a Lollipop update but just a heavy OTA...
http://www.lg-phones.org/t-mobile-lg-g-flex-receiving-d95920s-update.html
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G Flex didnt received Lollipop yet, and LG is simply deceiving and cheating people and thats a bad thing. It may cause your loyal customers to go away from LG. LG must Listen and thinks of its strategy. Its a shame that the Most Premium device isnt upgrading to latest firmware wheras the lower devices are already updated to Lollipop
Is it possible to get a dev to cook a rom for us? Or has the source code for the flex been locked out and thats why no one has attempted to even try till now?
Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.
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Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.
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Because Samsung has touchwiz and has to make it perfectly compatible. Takes a while.
That's not an excuse, HTC M9 getting 6.0 tommorow and A9 getting 6.0.1, G4 already getting 6 and G3 started to get it today... Samsung is soo late only now they releasing beta 6.0 to certain GS6 devices.
Yes, it IS an excuse. It is just one that you don't like.
Samsung is updating at the speed they want. I would fully bet that they were intentionally waiting for 6.0.1, as 6.0.0 likely had some issues they wanted to see fixed.
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I hope it's true and they learnt from their mistakes, i remember a lot of GS5 users complained about lollipop more than usually, same with 4.3 that was one of the worst updates sammy ever made.
For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.
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For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.
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That's i hope, the reason for beta testing and delays.
Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16
You are 100% guessing, not 100% sure... Lol
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manishvy said:
Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16
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If that would happen, that could backfire so fast specially since 6.0 was released to all other devices. heck G3 and GS5 released same year, yet G3 already getting android 6.0, idk if galaxy s5 will get it, and if it will probably Q2 2016... Samsung support is lacking and need to be changed, but since they beta testing android 6.0 now, i hope they won't use it as an excuse to "delay" it to until GS7 launches.
It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.
They can split the updates to two parts, the main Android 6.0 base update without updating the minor stuff like s health, themes, and just make S Pen compatible, then after short while release a package of updates android 6.0 updates, idk if it possible, but sure as hell Samsung could be faster, again if they put 6.0.1 with as little to no bugs, then i prefer it over rushed release.
why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...
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why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...
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They are for the s6 and edge+(UK and south korea). We'll see it in due time.
They must extend it to Note 5 at least.
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They must extend it to Note 5 at least.
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maybe we might get it after few weeks.
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maybe we might get it after few weeks.
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It's not going to happen
dr.ketan said:
It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.
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I think this time a little bit different. They seem want to improve their Rom quality, do it more carefully. Years ago I realize that Sam S series always be first to update because they are flagship and almost no special features like Note series. Absolutely I agree with you about Sam Roms are very different to HTC, LG.
But as Note 4 users, I was very angry about their update: no theme, no new features, no change on S Pen function, quite bad battery life.
Anyway, Samsung as most profitable Android OEM, have to change some points, do something better about update and Rom. We pay more, they do more better!
If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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Lancerz said:
If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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I want 5.5-5.7" phone. Nexus 6 and 6P fit need but their battery life not so good. Note 5 just enough for me fullday usage only after extreme optimized/tweaked.