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Do you have specific rules when using computer?

I am a computer science student, so I need to spend a lot of time in front of my computer. It is not a secret that my computer most of the time is my tv, and newspaper and mp3 player and so on. What I am trying to say is that I use my computer a lot and I think my eyes are very tired of that. I have dark circles under my eyes for a couple of years now and I can't get rid of them. No under-eye cream treatments work, drinking vitamins doesn't help either. Basically, the fact why I am unable to have a deep conversation with long eye contact with anyone is because all od the time I think how horrible my under-eye's look like.
So, here is the point where I would like to ask you for some information. I guess, most of the people from this forum use their computer a lot, which is perfectly fine. I would like to ask you, do you have any strict rules when using your computer? How do you make sure that you are able to, for example, write code for a long time, and make sure that your eyes are not being tortured? Maybe you have specific routine of exercises that you do every x minutes when using computer? Please, do share that information in this thread.

You can start by not using the computer for everything. Read a real newspaper, listen to songs on your phone or mp3 player and watch a real tv. Games like ingress offer you an incentive to leave the house and take in the fresh air. You should only use your computer for coding and other study/work related stuff.
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I would love to watch all movies in cinema, read real newspapers and so on, but since I am a student, money is an issue for me, so I am kind of doomed to use my computer not only for work, but for media purposes too.
Thank you for mentioning ingress, I had no idea that games like these exist. Since I am not a big fan of computer games, maybe this one I will like

Take a dog (probably not because you are an student) or something else that will force you to stand up and walk
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Nope.
I have rules for my PC, but they aren't the ones you're referring too
Rule #1 keep your greasy mitts offa my tech.
Thank you
The management.
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Mariius said:
I would love to watch all movies in cinema, read real newspapers and so on, but since I am a student, money is an issue for me, so I am kind of doomed to use my computer not only for work, but for media purposes too.
Thank you for mentioning ingress, I had no idea that games like these exist. Since I am not a big fan of computer games, maybe this one I will like
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Do you stay at home or in a hostel?
Alone?
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vbhtt said:
You can start by not using the computer for everything. Read a real newspaper, listen to songs on your phone or mp3 player and watch a real tv. Games like ingress offer you an incentive to leave the house and take in the fresh air. You should only use your computer for coding and other study/work related stuff.
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Kool!
Someone on here that actually is less device dependent than most.
Good advice from you vbhtt.

Thats OK said:
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Kool!
Someone on here that actually is less device dependent than most.
Good advice from you vbhtt.
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I am not entirely device independant. I can't think straight when I don't get the scores from the football matches! I also listen to music on my phone. And also other stuff like g+, chatting, etc. I use my computer just for playing Fifa 13
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I think reading stuff on a screen is probably the worst idea. That's why I hate Ebooks. Also you could have better lighting environments. Draw those curtains and let some natural light in.
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vbhtt said:
I am not entirely device independant. I can't think straight when I don't get the scores from the football matches! I also listen to music on my phone. And also other stuff like g+, chatting, etc. I use my computer just for playing Fifa 13
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Well yeah we all have the dependance...some features of smart devices pull us closer...and that's fine.
It's just the growing numbers of anti-human contact types that have replaced existence in realtime with a cyber existence.
ak700 said:
I think reading stuff on a screen is probably the worst idea. That's why I hate E books. Also you could have better lighting environments. Draw those curtains and let some natural light in.
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Agreed...
I have a large bound book collection.
For me there is no greater pleasure than flipping pages in my favorites.
Scrolling on line is fine in a pinch...what happens when we can no longer connect?

Your eyes are muscles. focus on something far away every 5-10 minutes
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No one will see it now...

Thats OK said:
What happens when we can no longer connect?
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Zombies.
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i use comp regularly... according my rule of min 3 hrs a day max 8 hrs. then watch tv for almost 3 hrs+.. all i got a bit darkness under eye and increased sensitivity to sun light. i cannot keep my eyes wide open in strong sunlight like other people i know can do...just get a properly sleep after using comp you wont have much problem

I use the computer an awful lot. (Photoshop as a job tends to require such.) I also watch most of my films on it. Reading I do from a book, my tablet or my phone. (I prefer a book, but as I read in English and live in Holland... Buying one from a shop takes about a month.) I also game. A lot.
Some background info: Dark circles under the eyes are a gathering of moisture and vat, usually caused by sleep deprivation, smoking, too many energy drinks, stress, vitamin shortage and/or allergic reactions.
Some general tips:
Sleep. That thing you're supossed to do for 6-8 hours a day. No, seriously. Try it.
Every 15-20 minutes, squeeze your eyes closed until you can feel the stress behind them fade.
Get up and do something else for a minute every once in a while. Get a cup of tea, visit the loo, grab a bite, have a smoke, doesn't matter.
Make sure the screen brightness isn't set too high. A full bright white screen can severely exhause your eyes. (and cause migraines.)
Make sure you get enough vitamin K, B6, B12, vitamin C and Iron.
Cold water/ice. All those expensive creams and all, nah. Pack some ice in a towel and put it on your (closed) eyes for about 5 minutes. Don't do this too often or too long, but it works well enough as a refresher.
Alternatively, black tea's teabag. Some old wive's remedy; just make a cuppa and put the bags on the skin below your eyes (ovbiously don't burn yourself...but they do have to be hot) You will look like a bit of a dork doing this.

[Q] what do you think is after pebble steel?

I know it's a little too soon, but what do you think it's after the pebble steel? Will it be the Pebble 3? When do you think will it be announced?
This is one of my first time posting on this forum , please be nice.

Whatever it is, orders will be accepted at least three months before it is released....
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Pebble Wear?

Pebble aluminium with boom sound
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I'm excited about the Android Wear devices because of the Google Now integration. I've always thought the mic and speaker on the smartwatch would be an important feature - not for speakerphone conversations, but as a good supplemental control system for the times when fiddling with the watch with your other hands is inconvenient. Pair it with always listening voice control of Google Now and you've opened up a world of convenience and utility.
I hope Pebble will consider that, because I'm testing a Gear 2 Neo and the mic and speaker is game changing. Even though w/ Samsung, you're only given control of S-Voice instead of Google Now, there's still a lot you can accomplish with it. It would be cool if a dev could break that open so we could choose which one. I'm at the point where any future smartwatches I choose, will be required to have that kind of feature.
If all Pebble did on the next HW version was add always-on health monitoring (steps & heart rate monitor) and mic w/ speaker I'd be happy.

rEVOLVE said:
I'm excited about the Android Wear devices because of the Google Now integration. I've always thought the mic and speaker on the smartwatch would be an important feature - not for speakerphone conversations, but as a good supplemental control system for the times when fiddling with the watch with your other hands is inconvenient. Pair it with always listening voice control of Google Now and you've opened up a world of convenience and utility.
I hope Pebble will consider that, because I'm testing a Gear 2 Neo and the mic and speaker is game changing. Even though w/ Samsung, you're only given control of S-Voice instead of Google Now, there's still a lot you can accomplish with it. It would be cool if a dev could break that open so we could choose which one. I'm at the point where any future smartwatches I choose, will be required to have that kind of feature.
If all Pebble did on the next HW version was add always-on health monitoring (steps & heart rate monitor) and mic w/ speaker I'd be happy.
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Yes that will be great! Maybe also include wireless charging like the Qualcomm Toq.

I really hope Pebble will stick to what they are doing now. I like them over Android wear because of:
1. Screen is always on. I would hate having a watch that had to be turned on.
2. There are still country's that doesn't have voice recognition from Google. Including Denmark where I live. I frequently use English voice recognition for my phone, but it is impossible to get it to recognize danish names etc. So I would prefer no voice.
That being said, a higher resolution would be great, and a more stable connection would be awesome.
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NinjaOne said:
I really hope Pebble will stick to what they are doing now. I like them over Android wear because of:
1. Screen is always on. I would hate having a watch that had to be turned on.
2. There are still country's that doesn't have voice recognition from Google. Including Denmark where I live. I frequently use English voice recognition for my phone, but it is impossible to get it to recognize danish names etc. So I would prefer no voice.
That being said, a higher resolution would be great, and a more stable connection would be awesome.
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Agreed on point 1. I'm testing the Neo and it is the single most annoying thing with this watch. Any watch that can't reliably activate the screen to the point I have to reach over with my other hand is a fail. It is no longer convenient - I need the info to be immediately visible when I glance down for it to be useful like on my Pebble and Metawatch. Even the Gear 2 Neo is a half second slow to wake up, so it doesn't feel as nice to use as as the Pebble. I am not one to be impressed by the color touch screen of the Gears. It's form over function.
On point 2 - I really feel for you that it is not a reliable way to interact for you. As an English speaker, I cannot do justice on describing how convenient the always on voice commands are when they work - and we're coming upon an age where more often than not, it is reliable and accurate. To extend that to the watch so that the watch on your wrist is the control mechanism in scenarios where your hands are busy otherwise, it's a breakthrough! I hope the voice control is made better for your use someday very soon so you can also experience the convenience I've been enjoying.
I don't care for the round shape of the Moto 360, though. I would like a "screen shape" so I can achieve the density of information I require on certain watchfaces - I don't know if I'll be able to get that out of a round screen.
Like I said, I LOVE the way my Pebble has been able to give me such real features and uses, but due to what I expect a major shift in how I want to use a smartwatch after testing one with the mic and speaker, those are absolute requirements going forward for me. If they don't add that voice control capability, I'll have to eliminate their offerings from my future selections.

I see your point, and would probably love it too, if voice recognition was more useful to me. But as long as it isn't, voice recognition isn't a priority for me.
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My guess is that a future Pebble would have the following:
1) Once again the charging port/cable will be drastically altered from the previous versions. (making it not backwards compatible)
2) The overall shell of the unit is bulkier.
3) If the technology exists, they might have a color screen (e-ink/paper of course).
4) The stock software will allow users more open slots to install/remove watch faces/apps/games.
Adding anything else would drastically lower the battery's performance and be very unnecessary. Adding Android as the base software would really make this watch a nightmare to use. The battery wouldn't last as long, the watch would be heavier, and it would get uncomfortably warm. Adding stuff like a speaker wouldn't give this watch its waterproof ability.
The way Pebble is, its perfect in every aspect. Granted you're still stuck with some watch faces, but physically, its perfect. Waterproof, dust-proof, drop-proof, long-lasting, light, watch-bands are replaceable, and its relatively thin.

I just got my new silver pebble. It is very beautiful and first of all is a watch and not a complex device. My only problem till now it is that does not support greek language and the most letters showing as boxes. I hope a new firmware fix this...

athankar75 said:
I just got my new silver pebble. It is very beautiful and first of all is a watch and not a complex device. My only problem till now it is that does not support greek language and the most letters showing as boxes. I hope a new firmware fix this...
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try pebblebits

Yes, pebblebits working just fine, no more squares...

I recently got the Pebble. I use it for Fitness. I use it for Music control. And notifications. I have say I am impressed. The connection issue is improving for me. The screen functional but for sure not beautiful. I hope at some point for future devices the engineers figure out how to have nice looking screens with good battery life. And someway of making the watch useful when the phone is not right there. We may be a few generations away though.
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logitechor said:
I recently got the Pebble. I use it for Fitness. I use it for Music control. And notifications. I have say I am impressed. The connection issue is improving for me. The screen functional but for sure not beautiful. I hope at some point for future devices the engineers figure out how to have nice looking screens with good battery life. And someway of making the watch useful when the phone is not right there. We may be a few generations away though.
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Maybe they can use Qualcomm's Mirasol display.

Yes, higher res, always-on screen is my biggest desire for a new pebble. Ideally color, and I think mirasol would be a great option.
Keep the buttons; I absolutely do not want a touch screen. And better built in apps would be nice: timer / stop watch / single shot alarms, "nag" notifications that buzz every 5 minutes until dismissed.
Voice input to Google now would be nice but not that important to me. My phone does that already.
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I would be curious to know if it is possible for them to come out with an Android Wear watch running on the E-Ink display. Kinda taking the best of both worlds. I think that the development community has been great for Pebble so far but I am pretty sure Android Wear will be catching up really quick to surpass it. But one of the features that I love about my Pebble is that the battery life is great and always on. So if there is a way it would be a neat idea to kinda bridge the gap instead of trying to compete. They would also be offering something that any of the Android Wear devices we have seen so far. Just a thought.

Arriving Tomorrow

Hey guys,
My G Watch R is showing up tomorrow. Getting really excited. Been tracking it since it left South Korea on Thursday. It's in Memphis, TN right now. On it's way to Vancouver, BC.
I have put a few watchfaces and apps on my Google Play Wishlist that I want to load on the watch immediately.
Does anyone have any suggestions for watchfaces or apps to use on the watch?
Thanks!

My favorite watch face so far is Pujie Black. As far as apps, wear mini launcher is a must in my opinion. I also really like using IFTTT.

xPhantom said:
My favorite watch face so far is Pujie Black. As far as apps, wear mini launcher is a must in my opinion. I also really like using IFTTT.
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This is my favorite watch face as well. It's nice because you can still really read the time when a notification is blocking the hands.

Intellicom WatchFaces

Am playing with Intellicom WatchFaces (no affiliation ) and I love it! Almost all WatchFaces have an "oled compatible" ambient mode and look great on the LG.
Didn't know the program till today and I'm also using facer and watchmaker but with those it was a hit and miss with lg r friendly ambient modes.
You can try it for free.
Let me know what you think of it.
Haha, reading the text I wrote it feels like an advertisement but I'm just sharing my enthusiasm

I agree. Been using Intellicom WatchFaces for a little bit now and find it easy and intuitive. It could use a few tweaks and fixes but so far it works very well.

Also get Facer and Watchmaker. Having all 3 allows you to get the best of the best.

I have all three and I would agree that Intellicom is the best. On a side note, I got this watch for Christmas and gave my pebble to one of my sons. Don't miss the pebble in the least. I did have to download "Vibration Notification"app so that I could feel my work email/appointment notifications more easily. Battery is usually between 25 and 40% when I go to bed so I'm happy.

It's the best atm for me too.

PUJIE APP
i use this one. Is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRB84R5LAlc
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pujie.wristwear.pujieblack&hl=pt-PT

Currently switching between these (the ones from creator Tuwak):
http://androidwatchface.com/faces?showround=true&showsquare=true&showorder=1&search=black-&page=1
They look amazing on the LG.

flash3d said:
Am playing with Intellicom WatchFaces (no affiliation ) and I love it! Almost all WatchFaces have an "oled compatible" ambient mode and look great on the LG.
Didn't know the program till today and I'm also using facer and watchmaker but with those it was a hit and miss with lg r friendly ambient modes.
You can try it for free.
Let me know what you think of it.
Haha, reading the text I wrote it feels like an advertisement but I'm just sharing my enthusiasm
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When it says OLED compatible, that mean it changes places every minute the watch?

MrPhilo said:
When it says OLED compatible, that mean it changes places every minute the watch?
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If the watch is in ambient mode the picture will shift, no matter what's on it.
With OLED compatible I mean two things:
1. Not to bright parts in ambient mode.
2. The ambient mode consists of mostly "thin parts", so when shifting the pixels will shift to black.
If you don't understand my excellent explanation , just check the burn-in threat in the general forum.

Based on the feedback from this thread I downloaded, tested and purchased this app. I've built what I consider to be the most useful and battery friendly watch face as it doesn't use white/blue colours (red and green LEDs use less power) and I'm getting 3% battery drain per hour.
If anyone has paid for the app, please consider downloading my watch face (battery epicness) from the gallery. It's not perfect just yet and I'm already on a v2 which removes some of the tiny issues (the word Wednesday was slightly out of the screen) and for anyone who wants a good mixture of useful info and battery savings this is a must.
If anyone would like me to share the v2 which is slightly better then please let me know.

Sure. Please kindly do share. I'm also heavily invested in Intellicom Watch Face and have what I consider an awesome looking face on at the moment...black background, with red and grey indicator colouring for time, date, day, battery level, month...
Please can you share a direct link to the app on Play? I can't find it by searching...

Moe5508 said:
Sure. Please kindly do share. I'm also heavily invested in Intellicom Watch Face and have what I consider an awesome looking face on at the moment...black background, with red and grey indicator colouring for time, date, day, battery level, month...
Please can you share a direct link to the app on Play? I can't find it by searching...
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If searching for Intellicom Watch Face doesn't bring any results then it's probably not available in your country.
If you do happen to find it, you can gain access to the watch gallery once you've paid for the in-app purchase.

I am unable to find the download button in the gallery on my Note 4, I did purchase the premium. I looked in the FAQ section for the Intellicom app and found the alternate url but I still do not see a download button. If I go to it on my computer I do see it but if I download it on my computer how do I go about getting it on my phone to my watch? Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

Nevermind, I realized I could email a the file to myself and it automatically launches the app. Hope they get the app for the phone fixed as it's a little annoying to have to go through a computer and email it to myself.

Sorry for all the posts but quick update. I emailed them yesterday and they got the issue fixed, now you can download within the app. Nice to see they are on top of things.

Hi,
i've bought many faces apps (pujie, facer, intellicom, watchmaker etc...), but watchmaker is best for me
regards
starbase64

Check these out. Unzip the files to use all the hands, backgrounds etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3000696

I retired my G Watch and got the R a couple days ago and I am loving it. I'm also using Intellicom but this one is always a fallback one for me when I am outside and active. Looks great on both my watches and t's always very easy to see.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.smartwatchface.scuba.diver.watch.face.android.wear

I love Intellicom. I just downloaded it, modified an existing one and uploaded it via their page.
http://androidwatchface.com/faces/8941/astrame

I bought the premium app but after I flashed my phone I couldn't find it on google play no more. Does any one has the apk that wants to share it? Thanks.

My thoughts on my new Urbane, and Android Wear in general

Some thoughts going into my second day of use with my new Urbane.
•Battery life is actually pretty good. I took it off charge at 7:30am and it's currently at 72%. The Android Wear app on my phone is telling me I have 12 hours of use left after playing with it a fair bit this morning. It should improve even more as the watch 'wears in'.
•Notifications come in pretty much instantly from my phone. It's frustrating in some regards though - you can't always see images sent to you from Facebook Messenger, sometimes you can. Also, once you dismiss a notification from your watch it's gone for good - you then have to check your phone to see what it was. Having said that, it does give you a very brief period after dismissing it to 'undo' the dismissal, but it's very brief. It would be better if it could archive say the last 5 notifications for you to go and look at after you've dismissed them.
•WiFi seems a bit buggy, for instance when connected to my home network and I turn off bluetooth on my phone or go out of it's range, WiFi does seem to take over but Google Now refuses to work. If I set up WiFi tethering on my phone (and disable bluetooth) it works perfectly so I guess it's just my router - though I don't know what I would need to change to make it work.
•Also (and this is a biggy), don't assume that because the Urbane has WiFi you can just simply log onto any network without your phone being around. This is not the case. Inexplicably, you need to log onto any WiFi network using the Android Wear app on your phone otherwise the Urbane will never use it. There is simply no way to log onto a WiFi network using just the Urbane. Once you've logged on using the phone, the Urbane will then remember the log on information from that point on. This to me defeats the purpose of having WiFi enabled on the watch, you should be able to log on anywhere without the phone..
•The Urbane has difficulty in recognising my 'OK Google' command. Commands issued after that are no problem however. The Urbane gives you the option at set up to choose between US or UK English, but for me that ,made no difference in whether the watch recognised my initial command or not (and you have to factory reset the device to change language...). I did however after some searching online see that after the Urbane is set up properly, it will look at your phones native language and base the information it gives, as well as spelling and metrics on that language. This doesn't help in recognising my initial command, and either my Aussie accent is just too 'Aussie' or the 'OK Google' command recognition is a bit buggy. Perhaps a bit of both lol.
•As someone who takes their watch off as soon as I get home, it's functionality is useless to me after that - unless I go out somewhere and put it back on. I guess at home you'd usually fall back to using your smart phone/tablet anyway. It does feel odd though to discard a $400 smart device like that..
•Heart rate monitoring is good, as is the other fitness tracking the watch does. However, there is two monitoring apps on the device that measure heart rate, Google Fit and and LG Pulse. When you first ask the watch "What's my heart rate", it will give you the choice of choosing which app to use. The problem is, whatever app you choose becomes the default app after that and there is no way to change that as far as I can see.
•Playing with the different watch faces is fun. LG ships the Urbane with 18 different faces to chose from, in various styles. And of course there is a rapidly growing number of user created choices out there as well. Some faces can be a bit buggy but for the most part they are gorgeous or garish, and anywhere in between. It's fantastic to have so many choices.
The biggest issue for me is still the perceived value of owning a smart watch such as this. After playing with it for a day, my thoughts have not changed in this regard.
It's still firmly in the luxury/novelty category at the moment, and I certainly do not need to have it. Is the Urbane worth the price I paid? From a purely technical stand point, probably. The Gorilla glassed OLED display is beautiful, the stainless steel body and overall craftsmanship looks and feels like something the Japanese would make, and the technical mastery of it all as a package feels like a bit of a leap forward, particularly considering where smart watches were a year ago.
But the software is not of the same level, and has a long way to go to really match where the hardware already is. It sort of like having Windows XP running on a 2015 5K iMac - there is a mismatch between software and hardware.
The upside is that Google can, and I'm sure will, improve the software as time goes on. The launch of the Apple Watch ensures that Google will treat Android Wear very, very seriously indeed. And that can only be good for the Urbane.
From a personal standpoint, the Urbane in it's current state is not worth what I paid for it. I would argue even the GWR is still about $100 too high. Do I have buyers remorse? To a degree I guess, but I can see the potential of this device, it can be so much more. The hardware is begging for a heart and soul, and a reason to exist.
I will keep it, and see where it takes me. Being an early adopter and gadget freak in general means that you have to take risks when jumping into and investing in a new product (hello OUYA, yes I got that too at launch lol), that's part of the thrill. Gadgets are a hobby, and a hobby is not worth having if you can't indulge in it every now and then. And obviously I am not alone in investing in the Urbane and Android Wear in general, which makes me feel a bit better.
Anyway, I hope I've given people reading this a bit more clarity in forming your own opinion of the Urbane/GWR. My advice? I would just go for it if you're anything like me, but maybe start off with the GWR.
TLDR, Urbane is an impressive, if slightly flawed device that should get better with time.

Regarding Voice recognition of "OK Google", I'm also struggling with this. It is nowhere near as good as my LG G Watch (square) was, that worked well 90% of the time. The urbane seems to be closer to 30%, and is really annoying me. I'm an aussie too but I'm not necessarily convinced our accents are causing the issue as I swapped straight from my G Watch to the Urbane and noticed problems straight away.
Regarding the default app for heart rate (and others) - to change it go into android wear app on your phone, hit the settings icon, choose your watch (LG Watch Urbane) and there will be an option for "actions" . In the you can reassign default actions.
Dwayne

Thanks for that fix mate!

I find if you lift your arm and wait 1 second before saying "ok google" it works perfect 99.9% of the time.

WOW you're actually right!

An observation of the hardware in general is that these watches are simply too bulky and much more so than they need to be in most cases. Getting the lugs up against the case on this particular watch would have made a huge difference by itself not just in reducing the bulk but the band or bracelet then fits better because it has more "grasp" area allowing for a grippier (if you will) fit for a given level of tightness. In other words the watch can grip better while being looser making it more comfortable to wear. Another... the killer feature these watches need is the ability to mimic a real watch face better and one way to get there is a convincing 3D effect for the screen. It doesn't have to be perfect and of course it couldn't be a battery killer but these smart watches need it. Right now people have some pretty nice stuff out there and I'm in no way taking a shot at some of those efforts which are outstanding work but they cant be convincing without a better screen tech.
Having these two things would move these watches from "what can it do for me" territory into wearing them because of what they can do for you but also just because you flat want to because the damn thing looks nice. Right now its a tool that I toss on the dresser as soon as I'm done with it and the few I know real world with one and most of what I read on the internet implies this is typical. They want to sell these things in a bigger way they need to make them something people wear because they want to because the use case isn't all that great for most people and I don't think having worn one for a while that this will change much because the window between utilizing the watch and it being easier to pull the phone is fairly small.
Keep in mind these are my opinions, I'm curious what other users think about the direction smart watches should be or need to be taking.

krabman said:
An observation of the hardware in general is that these watches are simply too bulky and much more so than they need to be in most cases. Getting the lugs up against the case on this particular watch would have made a huge difference by itself not just in reducing the bulk but the band or bracelet then fits better because it has more "grasp" area allowing for a grippier (if you will) fit for a given level of tightness. In other words the watch can grip better while being looser making it more comfortable to wear. Another... the killer feature these watches need is the ability to mimic a real watch face better and one way to get there is a convincing 3D effect for the screen. It doesn't have to be perfect and of course it couldn't be a battery killer but these smart watches need it. Right now people have some pretty nice stuff out there and I'm in no way taking a shot at some of those efforts which are outstanding work but they cant be convincing without a better screen tech.
Having these two things would move these watches from "what can it do for me" territory into wearing them because of what they can do for you but also just because you flat want to because the damn thing looks nice. Right now its a tool that I toss on the dresser as soon as I'm done with it and the few I know real world with one and most of what I read on the internet implies this is typical. They want to sell these things in a bigger way they need to make them something people wear because they want to because the use case isn't all that great for most people and I don't think having worn one for a while that this will change much because the window between utilizing the watch and it being easier to pull the phone is fairly small.
Keep in mind these are my opinions, I'm curious what other users think about the direction smart watches should be or need to be taking.
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I totally disagree. Have you seen panerai? Hublot? Breitling???? They are all big. Its whats in style, and has been for years.

interfreak said:
Thanks for that fix mate!
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Nice to read your thoughts on it I agree with 99% of it the only thing I would like to see is with Google now be nice to take a breath as you text lol

suzook said:
I totally disagree. Have you seen panerai? Hublot? Breitling???? They are all big. Its whats in style, and has been for years.
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lol Yes, I'm a watch person and own a number of them, surf the forums, etc. I'm guessing I've explained poorly. Its not the size itself so much as the needless bulk. I have several watches that have a face the same size but are quite a bit less bulky. This watch is a prime example with its needlessly large lugs and large bezel around the screen. It has confused no one as to what it is and I would never put it on in place of my real watches which I wear because I like them.
As to watch size in general a lot of people have never made friends with the large watch style, I'm among them. For me 40 to 42 mm is about right and I know a whole bunch of people with the same opinion. That is of course an opinion and I'm old enough to know that they vary and I do of agree that this style is popular right now but the trend is already reversing somewhat. Not surprising really, most people look like crap with a 48 mm saucer on their wrist because they simply are not possessed of the wrist size to put the watch into proportion.and my guess is the truly huge watches are going to continue going away bit by bit leaving the more reasonable 44ish mm sizing as the typical large watch with the larger stuff being outliers. At any rate it isn't just me, most of the reviews talk about the size issue with smart watches in general and particularly with this one where the added bulk particularly at the lugs hasn't been well received.
I take it you feel the size is fine then? You don't think that they might move more of these if they could move to a better and more convincing screen tech?

krabman said:
I take it you feel the size is fine then? You don't think that they might move more of these if they could move to a better and more convincing screen tech?
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Yes, i do love the size. I actually love the screen, Im not sure what you mean? I get compliments constantly. Alot of people ask what kind of watch is that??

Got mine today. Can't work out how to get lg health app to show heart rate data from the urbane. It's meant to appear automatically.

i hate you can't control how long the screen stay on..sometimes I need to time things with second hand...just so frustrating!!

gooner4life said:
i hate you can't control how long the screen stay on..sometimes I need to time things with second hand...just so frustrating!!
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There are some watch faces that do allow you to change this setting (timeout) usually in the android wear app on the paired device. There is also a stopwatch app built in.

This app (StayLit Wear) on google playworks for me
nOISEVAULT said:
There are some watch faces that do allow you to change this setting (timeout) usually in the android wear app on the paired device. There is also a stopwatch app built in.
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This^
And /or this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phonephreak.extendedlight

My first impressions so far
part 1 - http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/06/09/lg-watch-urbane-beauty-and-disaster-first-impressions/
part 2 - http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/06/10/lg-watch-urbane-part-2/

gavinfabl said:
My first impressions so far
part 1 - http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/06/09/lg-watch-urbane-beauty-and-disaster-first-impressions/
part 2 - http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/06/10/lg-watch-urbane-part-2/
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Are you using FaceRepo with Watchmaker? Browse the website with your connected phone, and download the faces directly to the app. It's easy to customize the faces from there...
http://facerepo.com/

slaydog said:
Are you using FaceRepo with Watchmaker? Browse the website with your connected phone, and download the faces directly to the app. It's easy to customize the faces from there...
http://facerepo.com/
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Yes I am now, thanks.

I say "ok google" -> it works (but slowly)-> I ask smth or say "set a reminder" and %50 chance it works for a while (slooowly) and says "offline" -> I get crazy. But if I use google now on the phone everything is smooth as butter. Am I doing something wrong? / Is the watch faulty? / Is the bt connection too slow for spoken commands? / Or what?

TheSanitarium said:
I say "ok google" -> it works (but slowly)-> I ask smth or say "set a reminder" and %50 chance it works for a while (slooowly) and says "offline" -> I get crazy. But if I use google now on the phone everything is smooth as butter. Am I doing something wrong? / Is the watch faulty? / Is the bt connection too slow for spoken commands? / Or what?
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Speed can vary. I find just say OK Google and wait for the speak now part. Say what you want in one go, no pauses and it works 8/10.
I photographed all my watch faces on the watch to give everyone a better idea of what they look like, and created a gallery.
Google Photos then made a GIF of them lol
http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/06/15/lg-watch-urbane-my-watch-faces-shown-photographed-gallery/

@interfreak and others - thanks for your input, it has been very helpful! (I'm in for one, will be delivered tomorrow)