Samsung Acknowledged that Metal Edges Become Easily Scratched - Galaxy Note 4 General

Scratches are unavoidable on these edges and Samsung has acknowledged this on their blog,
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/how-quality-assurance-of-the-galaxy-note-4-in-done-in-the-factory/
There really is nothing you can do about it; the scratches are already there when you break the seal on the box, to a degree which is usually visible if you look hard enough. In this case, buy an Otterbox, and enjoy your Device. | fin |

Thick cased like Otterbox is like having sex with two condoms. Yes you''ll be extra safe but it feels like crap and less enjoyable.

I don't blame you, I agree.
BodyGuardz is releasing their Crown screen protector for rounded screen devices like the Note 4; release is slated around Valentines Day, perfect Valentine gift for your Valentine, extra protection anyone? lol.
ciscostud said:
Thick cased like Otterbox is like having sex with two condoms. Yes you''ll be extra safe but it feels like crap and less enjoyable.
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Try using metal polish. I had a few small scratches from a case and they were gone/barely visible after I applied a little metal polish to the chamfered edges. This also worked well for me on my silver/white iPad mini.
Make sure that you tape over the painted portions of your Note 4's frame (white/black/pink/etc depending on your model) before you go to work on the edges -- the painted portions lose their matte finish and turn slightly glossy if you happen to apply metal polish and accidentally buff them.

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How much protection does a slim case really offer?

How much does a slim hard case, like the Rearth Ringke, really protect a phone from a drop or fall?
I have never had a case on my phones before. And I'd rather not have a bulky phone. But I've been considering a case as I don't want a busted phone.
I would think that you want want a case that absorbes shock from the fall. But all of the cases that look like they could absorbe shock look huge and bulky. So if a slim hard case really does offer protection then I could see myself rock'n one.
i'm asking myself the same question. I got 3 Mercury TPU cases and they look great, but they're so thin I don't see how much protection they'll offer. then again, my friend dropped his Note II without a case, all he got was scratches in the corners of the phone. the TPU cases will definitely protect from that. but if it's a hard enough fall that will break the screen without a case...I don't think these type of cases will prevent the breakage.
They offer VERY LITTLE protection from falls. They're more for style and scratches.
I mean, take into account that neither the top or bottom is covered. Add to that there is no lip to the front. The plastic is very thin. Probably if you were to drop your device, MAYBE your device would be OK, but the case itself would be destroyed or cracked. Now, that's ONLY if you drop it on the back, or a corner (-1 corner because one of them is exposed).
A TPU case would offer more protection because of it's "jelly" nature, but still, it's for dust or accidental bumps or something like that. Not for "drop" protection. Those are the thicker cases, of course.
I actually bought the Rearth Ringke, but am return it. It was too loose and felt like it would fall off at any moment. There was another slim case at the T-Mobile store. It was thicker and really gripped the phone. It also coverd the top and bottom better. But it's still slim and hard with no shock absorbing properties if it fell.
I think I'll end up getting the Body Glove. It seems thing and have some shock absorbing properties.
This is the case my wife and I have. I have the black one and she has the white one. The black shows fingerprints. I like the white one better.
It will not protect your phone from a drop. It is really only good for stopping scratches on the back and sides.
I probably wouldn't buy it again.
My wife had/has a bodyglove slim TPU case and cracked her screen on her first drop with case on (we have already replaced her phone through Asurion twice now from drops). I believe that case and cases like it are created to add grip and protect from scratches and normal wear while adding almost no bulk, not to protect from fall damage. For that purpose the case is magnificent.
I believe it's the same with the hard slim cases. I have a Rearth white slim case and dropped my phone from my desk onto carpet and the case popped off. It wasn't a high fall and it was on carpet so I had no damage, but I can't see it doing anything for me protectionwise if I dropped it on concrete or blacktop etc.
There's no exact science for that. It really depends on how the phone drops, the surface, the case and even other factors like if you have a heavier extended battery or not.
I had a Galaxy S2 for 18 months, never had a case or screen protector. I dropped it a few times and never had any problems except a few scratches on the corners/plastic. One day I just dropped it again, from hip-height, somehow it landed almost horizontally face-down and cracked the glass (that's what brought me to the Note 2 forum).
A decent bumper case would probably have saved it, by absorbing some of the energy of the fall and probably not allowing direct contact with the floor (most have a 2mm lip over the glass). Even those might not work if you drop it on a pebble or similar.
Bottom line is, a slim case will offer some protection and might save you in specific falls, but offers no guarantee at all.
In the case of the Note 2, I'm definitely using at least a bumper case mostly because it will probably reduce the probability of dropping it. The original body is wide, long and very slippery, with the buttons on the edge, perfect scenario for drops. A rubberized case gives a much better grip and is less likely to fly off my hand as the SGS2 did that day.
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My wife had/has a bodyglove slim TPU case and cracked her screen on her first drop with case on (we have already replaced her phone through Asurion twice now from drops). I believe that case and cases like it are created to add grip and protect from scratches and normal wear while adding almost no bulk, not to protect from fall damage. For that purpose the case is magnificent.
I believe it's the same with the hard slim cases. I have a Rearth white slim case and dropped my phone from my desk onto carpet and the case popped off. It wasn't a high fall and it was on carpet so I had no damage, but I can't see it doing anything for me protectionwise if I dropped it on concrete or blacktop etc.
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It's actually advantageous to have the case "pop-off" because it increases the impulse time of the fall. This allows the energy of the fall to be distributed over a longer period of time. Some cases are actually designed to do this. An analogy would be how modern car bumpers crumple versus how older car bumpers are solid and rigid. The passengers are much less prone to injuries even though the car may look worse off.
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As the previous poster stated, it really depends on the angle/point of impact. Due to the size of the screen, it is much more prone to cracking. This is just the nature of a device this size regardless of gorilla glass or any current synthetically hardened glass (with such a slim profile).
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I had a Belkin thin plastic case (rubbery feel, non flexible) for an iPhone and dropped it on gravel from arm height before. The case dented noticeably but the infamously fragile phone held up.
I'm sure it was mostly luck, but the case being able to absorb, crumple and dissipate the kinetic energy around instead of it being concentrated into one small point on the phone probably helps.
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I can't speak for the slim cases, but during the Holidays, I was sick (and medicated) and dropped my phone 4 times in one day :silly:
All of them were about waist high straight onto tile landing a different way each time. The combination hard plastic / TPU case I bought from china somewhere held up like a champ. No scratches, no dings.... nothing. Phone looks like the day I got it. It's not perfect, but it has done the job. I can guarantee that I would have had some type of regretable damage if it were not for the case that one day.
Only 2 gripes with the case:
1) The clear plastic hard part that covers most of the case scratches easily, so I have those circular swirls that you see all over black cars that are washed with crap towels.
2) The white part that runs around the edges like a bumper stains easily and has a slight blue tint due to my jeans.
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I had a ringke slim case dropped it from 3 feet and my phone slid down the drive way after the fall. Not a single scratch on the phone.. I guess it's just all how you drop it
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We've only dropped our Note 2s a few times, but we had standard tpu cases on our G2Xs for the previous 18 months. Those phones got dropped all the time, and we never had a screen crack or scratch. Tpu isn't a lot of protection, but it's a heck of a lot better than a naked phone. It softens the landing and distributes the impact just enough. I still don't want my 3 year old playing with my phone over concrete, but aside from that, I don't worry too much.
How about metallic bumpers (without any casing)? How much protection would they offer?
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cal3thousand said:
I can't speak for the slim cases, but during the Holidays, I was sick (and medicated) and dropped my phone 4 times in one day :silly:
All of them were about waist high straight onto tile landing a different way each time. The combination hard plastic / TPU case I bought from china somewhere held up like a champ. No scratches, no dings.... nothing. Phone looks like the day I got it. It's not perfect, but it has done the job. I can guarantee that I would have had some type of regretable damage if it were not for the case that one day.
Only 2 gripes with the case:
1) The clear plastic hard part that covers most of the case scratches easily, so I have those circular swirls that you see all over black cars that are washed with crap towels.
2) The white part that runs around the edges like a bumper stains easily and has a slight blue tint due to my jeans.
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This is the case I had for my S2 and now have for my Note 2. My S2's was white and as you mentioned it did stain. My Note2's is black so I cannot see the stain lol!
I love it, its grippy on the side and I'm confident if I drop it it will protect is most drop scenarios.
ludester said:
This is the case I had for my S2 and now have for my Note 2. My S2's was white and as you mentioned it did stain. My Note2's is black so I cannot see the stain lol!
I love it, its grippy on the side and I'm confident if I drop it it will protect is most drop scenarios.
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Might have to get a black one myself

Polished chamfered edge

Nice to see Samsung going with a premium metal finish and it does look stunning when new but 2 weeks down the line and it is covered in tiny scratches etc...
I look after my phones, tbh I'm a little bit OCD but even still the edge is looking tatty.
I then got a TPU case to try and protect it... 2 days later, it is scratched to hell! Just the case alone touching the chamfered edge is enough to scuff it...
what did Samsung make it out of? Cheese? A soft cheese at that!
I love my note 4 but...
I have the same experience. Maybe if it gets too bad I'll try the method used in this video.
http://youtu.be/EZuYzQrIHjA
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MadfishGTB said:
Nice to see Samsung going with a premium metal finish and it does look stunning when new but 2 weeks down the line and it is covered in tiny scratches etc...
I look after my phones, tbh I'm a little bit OCD but even still the edge is looking tatty.
I then got a TPU case to try and protect it... 2 days later, it is scratched to hell! Just the case alone touching the chamfered edge is enough to scuff it...
what did Samsung make it out of? Cheese? A soft cheese at that!
I love my note 4 but...
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Is this the white or black version you are talking about?
I've got the Ringke Slim on mine and it covers the edges. No scratches on mine.
It's the black one I have...
the coloured part is immaculate still but the polished section looks a mess
My note 2 seemed to fair much better in terms of durability.
Also, the camera lens cover is very exposed on these, I hope it can be replaced somehow in the future (although no scratches yet)
Same here with the white one. Got scratches on the chamfered edge from being in a pants pocket for gods sake. Anybody know to go about buffing them out?
Sorry to hear that you are having those problems. I am not trying to burst your bubble but the "metal" finish around the Note 4 is NOT metal. I have have read a post on this forum of another person saying the same thing and so I went down to my nearest BB to check it out. I am now convinced that he was right.
Here is the test I carried out to prove the point. I found a Galaxy Alpha and examined the similar finish and that is truly metal. With the AC in Best Buy I was able to put the Alpha to my cheek and you can feel the coldness of the metal. I then walked over to the Samsung store in BB and did the same with ALL the Note 4s on display and they were all just at reasonable temp. Also on the Alpha it will be noticed that the headphone jack and the charging port is covered in plastic or rubber inside of the metal cutout. Take a look at he N4 slot for the pen or the headphone jack and you will see that the white plastic is just covered by the " metal" finish.
That my friend is why you are having scuff marks already on your new device. It is JUST a "METAL" finish on the outside. Now if there is a metal frame it is on the inside, not on the outside like the Alpha. Can't wait to see a teardown from folks like IFIXIT to confirm. I could be wrong but until proven wrong I will stand by my cheek test.
No, it is metal (aluminium I believe ) but it is very thin. When you look at the headphone jack port like you say there is plastic but there is still a thin metal part of the frame...
Samsung wouldn't have needed to add the spacers in the frame (small white blocks top and bottom) if it was metal effect. These are there for the antennas to work properly in the metal.
Aluminium is a very soft metal, perhaps if they chose a more sturdy, harder metal like titanium for example then we wouldn't be having this problem but then we would have paid more for the already expensive phone.
For me I'll just end up keeping the TPU case on, it feels better in the hand and against the ear (metal frame has quite sharp edges) and offers some protection without adding much bulk to the device. Maybe once the phone has been used a while I'll look into customising the frame with either plastidip or hydroprint.
Yeah it would be made of aluminium. People wanting that "premium" look and feel. Just like the iPhone and any other phone made of an alloy, looks awesome out of the box but after a while scratches will appear. Plastic resists much much better, that's just the way it is.
Also it would have been hilarious watching you going around touching the bezels with your face
remove the back cover and look at the frame closely: you can see that the whole frame is definitely NOT metal. it is plastic with metal coating or layer and some metal inlays.
I highly doubt that the frame only has a metal coating. If you check the YouTube video of the guy bending the ip6p, note 3 and 4 you will see the note 3 bend and bounce back because it's plastic. Alloy on the other hand bends and stays bent. Looking at you note 4.
Of course I could be wrong.
It does seem to be a thin metal covering over a plastic frame...
gives the look of a premium device but the protection and flexibility of a plastic device
The frame is made of metals collected from the moon and the back cover leather is made from the skin of puppies.
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Whether its a thin metal strip on the top or solid metal, the nature of being aluminium is that it will scratch easily. It is the same with the HTC One that also has a chamfered edge. I have read many reports of it getting scratched too easily. If you look closely at the edge you will see that at the very least it is a metal strip. Thickness has nothing to do with scratch resistance. So we can argue whether it's solid or not, but the relevance to the initial poster's issue that it scratches easily is zero!
Everyone complained about Samsung's cheap looking plastic bezel. Now we are complaining about the upmarket stylish metal one! I guess a finish like the edges of an iPhone 6 are the only option that will satisfy everyone's needs. Incidentally I do remember reports of people with the bumper case on an iphone 4...took it off, to find that the little imperfection nodules of plastic on the inside of the bumper were enough to rub and wear the metal surround of the phone!
And if they had anodized it, it would have prevented scratches (like Nokia n8),but would have caused the frame to crack more easily, unless they used more surface, or thicker pieces of aluminum, which in turn would affect other things. So pointless.
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Even if it was made of adamantium people would still complain.
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Even if it was made of adamantium people would still complain.
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Couldn't agree more!
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you do know that aluminium and metal phones get scratched up this easy i dont know why ya'll are surprised
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you do know that aluminium and metal phones get scratched up this easy i dont know why ya'll are surprised
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Even in manufacturing these metals are impossible to keep pristine. I had an iPhone 4 with a small nick in the metal band out of the box. I had an HTC One with a couple of little nicks and microscratches in the band out of the box. And my note 4 also has a few imperfections. But then it's best not to study these phones under a spotlight because you will just find things you don't want to see!
I think/hope the issue lies with TPU cases simply because they, as all cases trap dirt under them but because they are TPU they have more movement.... the dirt gets ground against the polished edges. Hard cases like the Ringke do not have this movement...
Would be helpful to others if people who are experiencing this issue state which cases they have used.
Thanks.

Metal Edges Scratches

I just recently found out that my galaxy note 4 white got edge scratches (metal)
im using the silicon clear case. any suggestion for a new case to get away from the scratches.!!!! I HATE IT! samsung u let me down.
Every case more or less gives some scratches. Dust particles get between edges and case, then u have. I use stilgut ghost. It is very soft, maybe thats why i do not have any scratches.
Not only that, consider it as part of Samsung's manufacturing process. Lastly, get an Otterbox, no scratches what-so-ever. Be careful with UAG, Spigen, Samsung, and other rugged cases though.
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/how-quality-assurance-of-the-galaxy-note-4-in-done-in-the-factory/
I reckon its normal to have scratches, I guess I'm used to the normal wear and tear. I remember when I got my iPhone 5 there are scratches on the metal edges as well. So personally it is not a big deal for me.
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For Clear case lovers: Spigen NEO-hybrid vs ULTRA-hybrid vs Speck review

(Unfinished first post. I hit send accidentally. See post 2 for completion.)
For those of you who also want to stay with clear cases for these gorgeous phones, here's my little contribution after 2 weeks with these two Spigen clear cases I see asked about most.
Note: We first bought a Speck Clear, but it scuffed fast, felt bulky, and didn't have the nice grippiness their opaque Candyshells do. We got the Speck Grip for something to trust out on a horse or Rollercoaster. It's a very grippy, slim tank.
Since then, I've been VERY happy with both my Spigen Neo-hybrid and Ultra-hybrid crystal cases. I'd read reviews obsessively for weeks, so was a little skeptical, but I think @Pilz was correct in assuming they'd fix noted issues after the first batch or so, since mine do not have the issues noted in older reviews.
So, point by point comparisons:
- NEO-hybrid - has metallic colored rim piece
-ULTRA-hybrid - solid, all clear
Drop Protection:
Ultra-hybrid crystal - I feel very confident. It's military grade rated, and we can feel/see why.
Corners and edges are strong & cushioned.
It has more lip on front, and nice, curved "feet" on back corners, so no scuff marks from laying it down, no fear about a fall on front or back. There is space between the back of the case and the phone, adding more protection (and making "watermarks" almost impossible - see below).
Neo-Hybrid Crystal - I wouldn't trust with a bad drop. Not military grade, no air cushion, just "dual layer," which doesn't mean a whole lot, like it does in a Speck.
It has no feet on the soft back, and a little less lip in front.
Grippiness:
Ultra-hybrid - some grippiness in the material on the lips & edges. Buttons and ridge around the back adds some friction
Neo-hybrid - almost none. Good enough grip in hand, but very slippery in your pocket
If any clear, strong material could be as grippy as Speck's rubbery material, they would have used it in their clear case.
Backs (and about watermarking):
Ultra-hybrid - back doesn't touch the phone. It's stiff & flat. So the only water-marking I get is a tiny smidgen after a lot of use or pressure in my purse, touching the AT&T mark, under the camera. With concerted effort, I once got a about a 1" x 1/4" strip there.
Both were easy to pop off with a squeeze to the sides of the case.
Neo-hybrid - has a fine dot matrix on inside of relatively soft, slightly curved back
Buttons:
Ultra-hybrid - Ridged, firmer, prominent, clicky, and nice. The ridges could be smoothed (see below), but I like them for friction in my pocket.
Neo-hybrid - Perfect feel. Almost flush with rim, less firm, clicky.
Fingerprints:
No difference between Ultra or Neo. Neither a problem, although any clear case over black phone is going to show things like crazy. On my silver phone, you have to shine the sun at an angle to see anything. I'm always puffing on and wiping all my cases, regardless, for the feel.
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Beauty
Ultra-hybrid - I didn't trust pics, or I would have just bought this one. It's just as nice with the clear, kind of sparkly edges as the Neo is with the metallic rim. It shows off the phone's curved back as well.
No watermarking problem. (See above)
Neo-hybrid - Slightly sleaker beauty. Has the metallic rim, smoother lines, slightly slimmer, flatter buttons. Beautiful.
Dot matrix in back is barely noticeable, but ensures no watermarking or dust, ever.
Miscellaneous observations
Ultra-hybrid:
- Because of the air space between the back and the phone, and no obvious rim around the camera cutout, I was most concerned about dust getting in. So far, none, even from my purse or using it in bed all day on a plush blanket. It seems to be curving from the inside to touch/seal.
- The flat backside has a VERY sharp edge, as though it were unfinished. I wouldn't have been able to use the case another hour if it hadn't been easy to smooth off with my fingernail file.
Neo-hybrid:
- For some people, the decorative rim is somewhat loose and bulges on the sides. Mine doesn't have either problem. Whether that's because I've never separated the rim from the clear case (despite instructions saying to apply them separately), because they did something different, or because I got lucky, who knows. I would not advise separating the two pieces, regardless. The case goes on and off as one just fine without adding that extra stress/stretch to the rim.
Finally, if I had to have only one case of the four I've used for this phone, it would easily be the Ultra-hybrid Crystal.
It has the best combination of great protection and minimalist, clear design.
... But it's nice to have the sweet Neo-hybrid for dress occasions where it's safer than most and probably the most attractive of all.
I have the Speck Clear Candyshell case for my Galaxy S7 Edge. Well I dropped it from about 4 ft yesterday onto the floor and the screen shattered on the left hand side. I am not sure where the military grade protection is, but it didn't hold up for me. Looks like the lips didn't do their job and the entire left edge of the screen hit the floor. :crying:
i have spigen neo clear case and an Artech 21 Jelly Transparent ,both amazing ,but i feel the jelly case is kind of more smooth when you hold it .
Link here http://www.amazon.com/Artech-21-Sho...&ie=UTF8&qid=1460954337&sr=8-3&keywords=jelly
jspizzy said:
I have the Speck Clear Candyshell case for my Galaxy S7 Edge. Well I dropped it from about 4 ft yesterday onto the floor and the screen shattered on the left hand side. I am not sure where the military grade protection is, but it didn't hold up for me. Looks like the lips didn't do their job and the entire left edge of the screen hit the floor. :crying:
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Ouch! That's scary to hear. Speck is where I go for the ultimate in protection. Their clear case seems to be a quality anomaly in many respects.
I'm so sorry about your phone. I'd be :crying: too.
What kind of floor did you drop it on?
SillyTexas said:
i have spigen neo clear case and an Artech 21 Jelly Transparent ,both amazing ,but i feel the jelly case is kind of more smooth when you hold it .
Link here http://www.amazon.com/Artech-21-Sho...&ie=UTF8&qid=1460954337&sr=8-3&keywords=jelly
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Thanks. They do look very much alike. Do you think either one to be more scratchable than the other? I never put my Neo on its back or in my purse unprotected because I worry about it scuffing.
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Thanks. They do look very much alike. Do you think either one to be more scratchable than the other? I never put my Neo on its back or in my purse unprotected because I worry about it scuffing.
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They both work fine , you can choose Spigen or Artech 21
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- The flat backside has a VERY sharp edge, as though it were unfinished. I wouldn't have been able to use the case another hour if it hadn't been easy to smooth off with my fingernail file.
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I was thinking of doing this too. Were you able to smooth it down completely to where it feels totally smooth/round, or did you just take a bit of the sharpness off? And did it look OK?
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I was thinking of doing this too. Were you able to smooth it down completely to where it feels totally smooth/round, or did you just take a bit of the sharpness off? And did it look OK?
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Yes. You can't see it at all. I left the top edge alone just to compare.
I made it smooth and more rounded, but there's still a palpable rise, unlike the curved back of the phone or the Neo.
I started with lighter strokes, done just in areas I touch most, but as the days want by, got more brave and did all of it thoroughly.
FWIW, I used my diamond dust fingernail file, which is pretty fine even on the "shaping" side. I used that side most. The "finishing" side smoothed slick, but so did just using the case a bit, so it wasn't worth bothering.
On the onyx black phones, the neo hybrid back adds a bit of haze, so I find the ultra hybrid to look quite a bit better to me.
The gap in the back does worry me as some work trips I go on have a ton of dust. You can definitely tell a difference by just taking it in the shower, moisture gets between the back and the case for the ultra hybrid easier.
The neo hybrid also looks and feels larger in all dimensions to me. According to their site, it's depth is slightly larger which adds a bit of protection when setting it down face up or down, but yeah it doesn't have air cushions or claim the mil spec. The neo's texture on the sides feels nice. Also, my Monoprice cables don't fit cleanly in this case, though I can force it in. The ultra hybrid is flexible with the ports

best thin case note 20 ultra with grip

I find most cases get slippery on the sides.
I had speck in the past but it was OK any others that you recommend thanks
From what I've seen so far:
1. Spigen Liquid Air - Seems to have some good grip potential, especially with ridges on the sides. However, the gap around the camera bump is an interesting design choice...
2. Samsung OEM Matte Black Silicone Case - Seems to have a decent grip on the matte finish and very minimal.
3. Pitaka Air or MagEZ Case - While I haven't used them myself, I've heard good things about the grip/feel of the Ipitaka cases.
I'm personally going to try the PItaka MagEZ case when it becomes available (Aug 21st) since I like the idea of having embedded metal so I don't have to stick a scosche metal piece on the back of the case.
Also, just a heads up. According to some initial reviews on the new speck 'grip' cases, they're using a more plastic-feeling material for grips instead of rubberized and people are not happy about it. (I previously used them as well)
I switch phones often, but one thing that remains constant is my Pitaka MagEZ cases. Have purchased well over 10 of them at this point. Wouldn't choose any other thin case
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From what I've seen so far:
1. Spigen Liquid Air - Seems to have some good grip potential, especially with ridges on the sides. However, the gap around the camera bump is an interesting design choice...
2. Samsung OEM Matte Black Silicone Case - Seems to have a decent grip on the matte finish and very minimal.
3. Pitaka Air or MagEZ Case - While I haven't used them myself, I've heard good things about the grip/feel of the Ipitaka cases.
I'm personally going to try the PItaka MagEZ case when it becomes available (Aug 21st) since I like the idea of having embedded metal so I don't have to stick a scosche metal piece on the back of the case.
Also, just a heads up. According to some initial reviews on the new speck 'grip' cases, they're using a more plastic-feeling material for grips instead of rubberized and people are not happy about it. (I previously used them as well)
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Does the pitika have a lip to protect the screen? Thanks
magichoward said:
Does the pitika have a lip to protect the screen? Thanks
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The "Air" series cases generally don't rise above the screen.
They do have a thicker "Pro" series option with a raised lip to protect the screen, bumpers on the corners, etc.
Samsung OEM silicon. Can confirm it has excellent grip
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Samsung OEM silicon. Can confirm it has excellent grip
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The cloth one does as well since there's a slim silicone band along the edge.
zedwards said:
The cloth one does as well since there's a slim silicone band along the edge.
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Yes I've seen the one the only concern I've read it's a little difficult to remove the spen.. Your thoughts.
I will never choose Pitaka again.
Edges are rough and the upper part could have covered more
But I especially won't because it damaged my Note 10+ because of a defect in the inside of the case that made a grain of sand sized hole in the back of my phone.
Been using the Zizo Bolt on my Note 10+ for over 6 months. Excellent grip, usability and protection.
Kick stand doubles as a grip; either fully retract/extend it to keep from losing it's pins, if not secured in either position they can work their way out in your pocket! No issues with this case otherwise.
The one for the 20 seems to come with a temper glass screen protector; that may not work so well.
That's not present on the one for the 10.
Presumably you can use it without and substitute one one your choice?
Damn the 20's cam has a big bullseye on it... no likey. Buying a good case for the 10+ was very hard early on, no doubt the 20 U will be harder to protect
https://www.zizowireless.com/produc...axy-note-20-ultra-case?variant=32315584282672
magichoward said:
I find most cases get slippery on the sides.
I had speck in the past but it was OK any others that you recommend thanks
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https://www.amazon.com/JJNUSA-Handmade-Leather-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B08DXWJSQ1?ref_=ast_sto_dp
you know i never thought trying to find a case was going to leave me so hard pressed. note i do not mind the camera bump one bit. but they could have rounded out the camera hump a bit more. not the corners, but where the surface meets the edges and also they could have slanted the sides a bit more angled. who knows they did pull it off pretty good.
still on the camera bump.
note: with JJNUSA leather case you will be covering the mic on the camera bump. if that is a problem for you look elsewhere for a case.
i have received 200 in incentives to order goodies when i got my phone pre ordered and used it to order a few cases.
cases i ordered:
samsung rugged: bulky, heavy, don't like the texture on the back and flimsy kickstands that shoot off when used
samsung leather case: upgrade from last years, 2g lighter. seamless, but warps at the bottom. good cam protection.
samsun silicon: unsure if food grade safe. and slippery as glass
-other cases-
spigen Rugged Armor: oddly best all tpu case with carbon fiber accents. the back is slippery if trying to reach across the screen. side bumpers have one way slip grip and flimsy. camera is well protected. pen cut out too deep corner exposed but covered. top /bottom bumper good but top may block ear piece. 2g heavier then jjnusa leather
...now my official review of the JJNUSA Handmade Leather Case...
NOTE i used amazon prime
don't let the first pic they have on amazon throw you off, but what bothers me is the video they added to the product and it is of the s20 ultra; the camera lens is so scratched. i am still baffled how they did that. then again we will see in due time, because i can not stand the samsung leather case(which got me hooked on leather cases oddly) it is too slippery. the jjnusa case has tpu sides and saddle leather on back with plastic on the inside that the phone rests on. but i will say the leather on the back is so soft i think it sorta makes up for the lack of suede like the official samsung case has. then again the leather is so thick its' edges pop out the mold a teensy-weensy bit, but i doubt with proper use and not picking at it it will survive for a long time. with the 5% off coupon i also got another 1 usd off(who knows if it was the amazon prime). so for 19.95 it is a steal. most other leather cases are $30+. a steal; why may you say? hold on let me get to the rest of it. if we all remember the lg g4 leather back it was a looker. that was it, because it scratched easily and punctured easily. then we go onto the samsung leather case that scratches easily with minimal show. further more i can not say what that will mean over long term usage with this case from jjnusa. treat it lightly and it should be fine. now back to the leather on the jjnusa case. the leather reminds me of the type you get on a saddle and does not separate from itself. that is a plus. but a minus if the antiquing they use comes off very very easily?, and it does(con or not?) i had a cane that had antiquing and it turned my hands black, but after it leveled out it was fine. you know they always slap so much on to fill in the design that almost certainly more then half they put on will rub off. i have rubbed off some already. hence it would not rub off like wow, i had to use my nail. no way does it show like scratches on the samsung leather case. either way the extra antiquing will no matter what fade away over time and settle down to where it should be. i still think it will look good. at the same time the leather is much more scratch resistant then the latter. and the design and the look really grew on me. now on to the sides. the power button and volume are labeled with symbols and i like it even though i will never look at it. what else i like is that they are tpu like the rest of the sides. the tactile of the buttons are sturdy then again not too stiff not too mushy. then there is a bonus or an achilles heal; you move down the same side as the buttons and find a wrist strap punch out so you can add a wrist strap. have not tested it, seems like it should be worthy of use and not fearing. the bonus is removing the phone from the case, it does not shoot out like it does with the samsung leather case does. still it holds it in better. this is where i tell you that the jjnusa case has way better screen protection that leaves a better feel in the hand. the samsung leather case has a squidgy spongy top and bottom. the bottom is already warped and i never used it; i just put it on a few times and took it off. also a fail for the bottom bumper is the difficulty to remove the spen without nails. the jjnusa case is cut out just right and since it is thinner and more stiffer in a good way you can press your thumb or finger and hear that satisfying click to eject it. with that said the top and bottom bumper are raised higher then the samsung to protect the screen. the samsung case is more flush and flimsy.
i am a happy camper and if it fairs well i will update to 5 stars from 4, but i am really thinking at the price to slap down for another. as we all know leather cases do not last as long as other types
the reason i gave it 4 stars is i never really heard of JJNUSA till i saw them on etsy.com and since they where based in china i thought meh. then i thought to ebay's third party cases and said but leather? does not smell much like leather, oddly that is how saddles with the same type of leather smells. or it could be the antiquing they used and the shipping package. it was not shipped in a box or cheap plastic, it was in a cloth sleeve in a sealed padded envelope. JJNUSA do claim Oregon origins... yeah right etsy.com says ships from china.
i have played around with plenty of cases and phones in cases so it's not like i only have really had the note 20 ultra... just do not get one of them ultra thin all tpu cases. i have one for my lg g4 and only really protects the sides and back. busted the screen.

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