To update or not update. That's the question. - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've just received my X from the mail. When I boot it up for the first time I was asked to updated but since I heard a lot of complains I only downloaded it and didn't install. So: To update or not update?

Both my Moto X and Nexus 5 are staying on KitKat. Lollipop isn't for me.

Lollipop sucks, kitkat for me also. Until they make it worthy by coding some of the bugs out of it.

Keep on Kit Kat..reverted from Lollipop five times..cannot make myself like its look and performance to the current version/OTA..Let's give Google about five more OTA's then consider LP..especially those ones untrained on the revert or cannot revert..
sent by my:
4.4.4_21.11.17.titan
XT1064 Moto G (2nd Gen.)
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"Praise Jah" YOU people.!

Wow, I was going to come in here and say update as I'm loving lollipop, but I guess hold off if you're not sure as it's a pain to downgrade.

Android 5.0 here and loving it! If I wanted and older version of Android I would have stayed with my old Samsung S4, as it was a perfect phone with the ShowMan ROM!

I love material design... I think I'll go with lollipop. How is your battery? Any issues?

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Android L on X b4 Nexus?

I just thought i would pass this along. Jerry, over on Android Central, stated yesterday in the podcast that the people he knows at Moto said that their goal was to release the update on the x before the nexus 5 got it..... again. if you remember last year they managed to do it. it ruined the phone, and only happened because Google stopped the rollout to the n5 to fix some bugs, but they did it anyways.
The moral of the story? If you want L really fast, the x is the way to go.
Let's hope just like 4.4.4 Verizon doesn't slow them down
GTvert90 said:
Let's hope just like 4.4.4 Verizon doesn't slow them down
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i think they are mainly talking about the pure edition. they can literally upload the os and send it out to all pure editions the moment they get the code. last year though... verizon was the first to get kitkat. so who knows.
pretty much one of the biggest pluses of the X and why i'm on board. very good to hear this is going to be a continued trend with this device.
phermey said:
I just thought i would pass this along. Jerry, over on Android Central, stated yesterday in the podcast that the people he knows at Moto said that their goal was to release the update on the x before the nexus 5 got it..... again. if you remember last year they managed to do it. it ruined the phone, and only happened because Google stopped the rollout to the n5 to fix some bugs, but they did it anyways.
The moral of the story? If you want L really fast, the x is the way to go.
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this is good news. i didn't know that the old Moto X updates were really quick. it is quicker than i thought. now for the new Moto X, it is going to be good!
will the old Moto X be getting L too?
mrvirginia said:
pretty much one of the biggest pluses of the X and why i'm on board. very good to hear this is going to be a continued trend with this device.
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i completely agree.
0.0 said:
this is good news. i didn't know that the old Moto X updates were really quick. it is quicker than i thought. now for the new Moto X, it is going to be good!
will the old Moto X be getting L too?
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the old one started with 4.2.2. when kitkat was released, some of the n5(s) got the update, but google immediately stopped the roll out because encrypted devices were getting bricked. a few days later (nine days after the announcement if i remember), the verizon phone got it. they ran the soak test side by side with the update to everyone else on verizon. then the next week att and tmo got it. sprint followed shortly thereafter. and i still had kit kat on my x for a 'minute' before my n7 got it.
the important thing to note is the og moto x was absolutely flawless on 4.2.2. then moto releases an update that they did not test and introduced all kinds of annoying bugs. it took seconds just to unlock and such. the app updates came a week later. and then were finally fixed, pretty much, a couple of weeks after that. but the og x has never been as good as it was when it was on 4.2.2.
another problem is that moto likes to tout how many of their customers are on the latest and greatest. so the way they make sure that 96% of their devices are running the current update is they pop up the update notification page on literally every click you make on the phone. the shove the update down your throat so to speak. i personally like to find out what problems peopl are having first... and then download. but i do realize that i am in the minority on that one.
the other updates that we have received on the moto were properly tested before released. in the end... fast updates have their pros, but they also have their drawbacks.
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i completely agree.
the old one started with 4.2.2. when kitkat was released, some of the n5(s) got the update, but google immediately stopped the roll out because encrypted devices were getting bricked. a few days later (nine days after the announcement if i remember), the verizon phone got it. they ran the soak test side by side with the update to everyone else on verizon. then the next week att and tmo got it. sprint followed shortly thereafter. and i still had kit kat on my x for a 'minute' before my n7 got it.
the important thing to note is the og moto x was absolutely flawless on 4.2.2. then moto releases an update that they did not test and introduced all kinds of annoying bugs. it took seconds just to unlock and such. the app updates came a week later. and then were finally fixed, pretty much, a couple of weeks after that. but the og x has never been as good as it was when it was on 4.2.2.
another problem is that moto likes to tout how many of their customers are on the latest and greatest. so the way they make sure that 96% of their devices are running the current update is they pop up the update notification page on literally every click you make on the phone. the shove the update down your throat so to speak. i personally like to find out what problems peopl are having first... and then download. but i do realize that i am in the minority on that one.
the other updates that we have received on the moto were properly tested before released. in the end... fast updates have their pros, but they also have their drawbacks.
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thanks for that deep info. it makes sense, fast isn't always better. I did read that 4.4.4 screwed up the OG Moto X, which was kind of a letdown. but I really feel that Android L is going to be complete, in a sense of no major bugs when it releases. I want that quickly. having a L preview definitely helps in squashing the bugs, which is why I am more confident in the L update being rolled out quickly not destroying the phone than all the other Android updates
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i think they are mainly talking about the pure edition. they can literally upload the os and send it out to all pure editions the moment they get the code.
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That isn't true. Google ships Motorola the final Android L code before the public. But it will take time to merge their changes. People incorrectly assume Motorola runs stock android. They use a custom kernel and have a good bit of changes under the hood. I'm sure they will push L quickly after Google announces it, but it is not a simple process.
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That isn't true. Google ships Motorola the final Android L code before the public. But it will take time to merge their changes. People incorrectly assume Motorola runs stock android. They use a custom kernel and have a good bit of changes under the hood. I'm sure they will push L quickly after Google announces it, but it is not a simple process.
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i am assuming the preview and the pdk that they have their hands on will allow for them to have the kernel ready. and moto gets it the same time we do...according to the htc infographic.
phermey said:
i am assuming the preview and the pdk that they have their hands on will allow for them to have the kernel ready. and moto gets it the same time we do...according to the htc infographic.
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Venders get the code before the public does. Google announced this quite a while ago to speed up releases.

[Q] Will 1st gen Moto X receive OTA Android 5?

question in the subject. I just got 4.4 OTA a few weeks O.K., but I'd be happy to bump it up to 5.
Yes it will.
Try Google?
Yes. Its just a matter of time
Thanks for the replies. My first searches on Google mentioned only 2nd-gen Moto Xs as listed for Android 5. Now I'm starting to see 1st-gen Moto Xs listed, too.

Android 5.0.1 (Pure edition)

For all of those who have the pure edition, shouldn't we already have 5.0.1 update? My understanding was that that the updates on the pure edition should be just like the nexus devices. Is this not the case?
No, updates on pure edition are not just like nexus devices . You've been misled. However, the moto x does get updates quicker than most other devices. Again, however, It all depends on the update.
For instance, I heard/read somewhere that the fixes in 5.0.1 are not needed for the moto x because Motorola had already squashed them themselves in the 5.0 update. So Motorola has no incentive to work on releasing a 5.0.1 update. Take that with a grain of salt. I have no sources, (can't remember where I heard it) but someone may chime in with more info supporting that or rebuking it.
But, no, nexus devices will always see updates first.
There was a second build of 5.0 pushed to the PE, but it doesn't fix the problems with Attentive Display or the ringer volume changes on Moto Voice (among other things).
Well, 5.0.1 hasn't even rolled out for the nexus 5 yet, they're still fixing things. Motorola has already released 5.0.1 for the Moto G, so we can expect it soon enough for our moto x as well, once they finish squashing all the bugs. They need to work on Moto Assist, Moto display etc to play well with lollipop so might take some time compared to the moto g which doesn't have any of these additional features

MOTO X 2014, Android 5.1 Update

Was just searching the net for past 2 days.... as soon as android 5.1 was released, there is not even a single news/ Rumors about moto x and android 5.1, So i figured
Lets Start a new thread, and something or the other is bound to come up!, got my android L update for MOTO X european version from right here so i figured lets start here.
if anyone has any information let us hear it
from what i found, there's some news on moto g running android 5.1, moto x 2013 being considered.
does that mean, we have lost the top priority :fingers-crossed:
i seem so eager coz this 5.1 is REALLY stable, i have got a nexus 6, just updated it... its smoother, some pesky bugs before, nothing now.
~~~~my moto x is suffering from bluetooth audio stuttering , among other bugs.
Did you see any change in camera quality on your Nexus6?
I mean do you think the new 5.1 will make the MotoX able to shoot in RAW and Camera-2 API will now be supported? Because that is the biggest thing which needs improvement in MotoX, and performance boost will be a boon, rest it seems stable on 5.0 as well.
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Did you see any change in camera quality on your Nexus6?
I mean do you think the new 5.1 will make the MotoX able to shoot in RAW and Camera-2 API will now be supported? Because that is the biggest thing which needs improvement in MotoX, and performance boost will be a boon, rest it seems stable on 5.0 as well.
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Interesting, i can check it out , if someone can guide me how to .
P.s. the camera sensor itself is older version so don't expect it to be too good, samsung, oneplus one , oppo , nexus 6 all high end devices in latter 2014 use IMX 214 or IMX 240.. which are both 2014 released sensors ... On the other hand MOTO X uses IMX 135, which is released on JANUARY 2013, 2 years old now, Motorola has a reputation for increasing their, profits by using atleast one old part in their fabulous devices (HINT: moto 360, ti processor is sooo old, its parent company stopped supporting it and it drains battery too, could have easily used snapdragon400 but.... moto)
Moto X Pure Edition ( XT1095)
Well I'm searching daily for Moto X 2014 android 5.1 update but I'm not able to find anything. I had Nexus 6 I sold one week before 5.1 update, but I've tried it on my brothers Nexus 5 and its was really fast, especially the dialer app feels snappy now(but that was factory reset so not confident about that yet)..
Would love to hear more about Moto X 2014 android 5.1 update
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Well I'm searching daily for Moto X 2014 android 5.1 update but I'm not able to find anything. I had Nexus 6 I sold one week before 5.1 update, but I've tried it on my brothers Nexus 5 and its was really fast, especially the dialer app feels snappy now(but that was factory reset so not confident about that yet)..
Would love to hear more about Moto X 2014 android 5.1 update
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Motorola contacted people about a week ago about participating in a soak test for the Pure Edition. So far the update hasn't rolled out to anyone.
See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/xt1095-pure-edition-5-0-5-0-2-t3037580
Just leaving this message here, if anyone stumbles upon this question....
how to update XT1092 to android 5.1
as now android 5.1 is released for XT1095, and in future too XT1095 will be the first to receive any updates.... this is what my plan is.
I am Converting My XT1092 to XT1095 and then flashing the modem (google it).
TADA! thats it, that simple.
5.1 hasn't been released for any Moto X yet
scoupdogg said:
Just leaving this message here, if anyone stumbles upon this question....
how to update XT1092 to android 5.1
as now android 5.1 is released for XT1095, and in future too XT1095 will be the first to receive any updates.... this is what my plan is.
I am Converting My XT1092 to XT1095 and then flashing the modem (google it).
TADA! thats it, that simple.
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chrisrozon said:
5.1 hasn't been released for any Moto X yet
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As @chrisrozon says, there is no oficial release out yet of 5.1 for any victara (xt1095, xt1097, xt1092, etc). What is "out there" is a leaked soak test OTA. It's working but clearly unfinished; it has some serious battery draining wakelocks for some people.
Anyway, as soon as 5.1 is officially released (or after a few days if you're cautious), most people with non pure versions will be able to flash it and use it without reflashing original modem, since the new baseband of the xt1095 has been modified to work internationally. At least in latinamerica many of us could use the 5.1 soak with no baseband modification.
So if you're planning to convert your moto x to pure edition, i advice to do it once the 5.1 official release is out.
Cheers!
Manuel.

Moto X 2013 official lollipop ota update

Apparently lollipop is starting to roll out this week for the first generation Moto X. Has anybody received this update yet?
You might want to try reading the other 3 threads about this instead of creating yet another one.
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You might want to try reading the other 3 threads about this instead of creating yet another one.
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All the other searches that I found about lollipop for the Moto X are roms. I didn't find any about official over the air update. You could have maybe sent me a link at least
In the news, the most recent 5.1 OTA update was for the Moto G Google Play Edition. I also an article that said they were rolling out 5.1 for the moto X, but it was misleading; it came from Realty Today, so I find it understandable if they are not in the forefront of android news.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/official-lollipop-5-1-moto-x-t3070730
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/official-lollipop-5-1-moto-x-t3070730
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Thank you sir
Stalls and BS like this are pushing back towards iPhone. Lollipop us already played out, and we don't even have it yet.
Got_Evo? said:
Stalls and BS like this are pushing back towards iPhone. Lollipop us already played out, and we don't even have it yet.
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Get a nexus then. I'd much rather Motorola wait until lollipop is stable than have what apple did which was roll out horrible buggy 8.0, 8.1, 8.2 releases.

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