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In the recent 4.3 update, the Nexus 4's touch screen was revamped, and obtained much increased responsiveness. The same responsiveness you get on a Galaxy or iPhone device. But something still didn't feel right to me, it wasn't AS responsive (on the home screens) to me as a Galaxy Note 2, or an iPhone.
It's because when you swipe, there's this initial, miniscule, 2-3mm delay before it chooses to swipe. Similar to that 1cm pinch-to-zoom delay, which I believe is a feature to prevent accidental scrolling. Try it yourself: Swipe your finger for around 2-3mm, and you will note nothing happening. I think that swipe delay is also a "feature" to let your finger move a little when holding the home screen for the menu to pop up, so I believe it can be fixed, because the touch software otherwise should be on par with other devices. LG/Google should get rid of these delays altogether to be honest, the majority doesn't prefer them anyway.
I feel it's more like the dead zone has been increased, I don't like it what ever it is.
Gone back to the 015 driver from initial 4.2 pre release.
I don't mind nor really notice it.
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OnlySkills said:
In the recent 4.3 update, the Nexus 4's touch screen was revamped, and obtained much increased responsiveness. The same responsiveness you get on a Galaxy or iPhone device.
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I really couldn't see the difference from the previous version. The "dead zones" feel exactly the same as they were before. Good thing it's barely noticeable and not too annoying unless you're paying attention to it.
Yea but is there anyway to reach out to them so they can just take out this delay? It'll become Galaxy-like smooth..everybody wants that. No one cares really about their featured 'delay'
I'd rather my phone not pick up a touch that I didn't want it to than have to deliberately touch something twice. Just my 2¢
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hope some dev work on it a fix it..
My sister has an iPhone 5 and I had an S2 and personally I haven't noticed any difference between them now that I'm on 4.3.
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Nitpicking a near perfecting device won't get you any closer to "winning"
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I hadn't noticed this, and tested your 2-3mm claim on a stock, rooted 4.3 using the stock launcher with a widget on the homescreen... I still don't notice it! While there is a certain 'delay', 2-3mm seems vastly overstated. Having used galaxy s4, HTC one and iPhone 5 I see little discernible difference, and I'd be very surprised if they all do not feature some kind of touch recognition delay.
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Uncle Lizard said:
I'd rather my phone not pick up a touch that I didn't want it to than have to deliberately touch something twice. Just my 2¢
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+1. I haven't updated yet, but if this resolves the issue of accidentally selecting an item rather than swiping, then I am 100% all for it.
I never understood those problems people had with touch on the Nexus 4 apart from the pinch delay. Thats the only difference I notice from my brothers S3
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Nexus 4 feels just fine in my opinion. Don't notice any delays.
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i'm wondering there are so many top dev working on this device but no one can't (or don't want) solve toch and pinch zoom problem..
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i'm wondering there are so many top dev working on this device but no one can't (or don't want) solve toch and pinch zoom problem..
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I loaded CM 10.2 and don't see any issues so far.
It's difficult to notice any delay when you're used to something that has it. For example, my friend's TV has a lot of TV lag when used for gaming. If I hit A for jump in the game, I will have to wait about 100ms for it to show up on the screen. My TV, however, does not have lag as bad as this. Mines is about 30ms so for FPSs it is much more responsive. He doesn't notice this because his screen is already slow but when I play on his TV I notice a substantial amount of lag. When he plays on my TV he doesn't notice that it is very much faster. This is because it is harder to notice that something is slow when you're used to it.
This is a similar to phone responsiveness. My ipod touch 4th gen (which I had before my Galaxy s2 and NEX4) probably has a very slow processor but the software/hardware is optimized so there is no touch lag. Even with my nexus 4's beast quadcore processor, the touch performance is still better on my two year old ipod. I notice this because I have come from a faster device and I can notice the lag. You guys who haven't gotten used to more responsive devices may not notice the difference, but I and many others do. It's not just us being nitpicky, touch response if a very integral part of a TOUCH screen. I find myself having more difficulty typing on my nexus 4 because the sensitivity is just not high enough. I can type at a much faster pace on my ipod touch because the touch sensitivity is a lot better. In this regard, sensitivity makes a substantial difference in the user experience. I have had many mistaps and retaps on my nexus 4 when my taps did not register properly and I had to hit the same button over and over again. Swipes and other things are also slower than on my itouch.
If you play fruit ninja, for example, when you drag your finger on the screen you can see the cutting line trail behind on the nexus 4. On my itouch, however, the cutting line remains right below my finger and I cannot see the tip. This is the 2-3mm the OP is talking about.
just thought I'd share my opinion.
I sure hope it wont! Because I feel the touch responsiveness and accuracy on any 4/4s/5 iphone device is really through the floor.
Dont really feel any difference on the s3 compared to the new nexus 4 though.
I've noticed this delay too. Is there a kernel that allows you to adjust touch sensitivity for 4.3?
i've no problem with this delay.. my issue is pinch zoom problem.. i have to pinch at least 2 times to zoom enough..
it's software issue.. 'cause Mozzila Firefox doesn't have this problem..
It's not a "problem" or something that can be easily "noticed". The thing is, it's there. I can just feel that the Galaxy Note 2/S3/S4's swiping between home screens is instantaneous with the finger, just as the iPhone's is. The Nexus 4, is right up there, but I can see just that initial delay. It doesn't seem like the touchscreen doesn't recognize your finger, but more of a software "feature" where it won't recognize it on purpose.
I hadn't thought about the ambient display causing problems like this. I guess it's a concern we should all be aware of. I'd rather not use a pin code to keep this from happening.
Anyone else concerned about this?
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DroidLife/~3/sEk1HuolvGQ/
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I turn on password protection. So if if an accidental press wouldn't bother me.
I never use any extra lock screen protection myself. So I'm kinda concerned.
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Yep, this has been an issue for me in the few hours I've had it.
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So far I haven't encountered this issue with mine.
Not near enough to discourage me from this phone but still slightly annoying to know it could be an issue.
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hasbrobot said:
I hadn't thought about the ambient display causing problems like this. I guess it's a concern we should all be aware of. I'd rather not use a pin code to keep this from happening.
Anyone else concerned about this?
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DroidLife/~3/sEk1HuolvGQ/
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I'd be surprised if folks at Google didn't used proximity sensor to filter noises like this.
Not an issue for me. Never keep phone in pocket but rather death grip on rt hand.
Ian B
The face detection is an option. I think I read it will work in the background while ur swiping the unlock. I plan on trying it out.
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I wonder how much this would affect battery life. Even with a password to prevent unintended calls, opening apps, etc. it would still cause the screen to turn on more often.
From what I understand, ambient display could be turned off. Although I would think that would be the last thing I do. But let's say for kicks that you did turn it off. How would it work without it?
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Someone on Reddit posted today that the update that went out yesterday/today fixed the pocket dialing issue. I haven't seen anything official yet or had enough opportunity to test the statement though.
That's interesting. I wonder what changed to fix it. That is, if that's correct.
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Update did not did it. Miss moto display already. They should have such with Motorola's way of doing it.
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jmill75 said:
Update did not did it. Miss moto display already. They should have such with Motorola's way of doing it.
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Try using dynamic notifications. It's almost exactly like active display
I've raised this as an issues on Android's issue tracker:
https://code.google.com/p/android/i...nt&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
Had a friend record a video and I produced it, just in case anyone is on the fence about upgrading or is trying to decide if the price jump is worth it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBDR-jqLTf8
Had the note 3 and sold it due to its proximity sensor not working. Wish I hadn't. Have the note 4 now and love it. To be honest the only real difference to me is the new build quality. Less plastic and more metal.
The note 3 seemed just as fast and great. I would have bought another note 3 but they were selling only 100 euros less than the note 4
Some it was better in note 3...note 4 is needed updates asap
I have all the Samsung Note.
The difference for me between a Note 3 and 4 is all speed and screen.
I'm so happy with the upgrade and I must say I didn't expect to be so impressed about the difference.
So satisfied, but battery is hopelessly bad .
Like Note 1 and 2 the battery drain is ridiculous.
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jetbruceli said:
Had the note 3 and sold it due to its proximity sensor not working. Wish I hadn't. Have the note 4 now and love it. To be honest the only real difference to me is the new build quality. Less plastic and more metal.
The note 3 seemed just as fast and great. I would have bought another note 3 but they were selling only 100 euros less than the note 4
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Probably just needed canned air and blew it out.
I had note3 and now note 4, but I think it will be my last samsung, no root no party.
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Probably just needed canned air and blew it out.
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No the sensor was not installed properly and since the device was rooted the knox was tripped. So warranty no go!
I always rushed in upgrading Samusng phones like I bought note 2 and note 3 brand new after few days of launch but not any more. I believe the price difference is not worth spending as of now so I am waiting for price to go down.
I got my upgrade yesterday from note 3 to note 4 and apart from the build quality and the camera there doesnt seem to be that much of a difference if im honest.
i use it for work and was a little disappointed that knox was not available on the 910f model yet, i also tried my knox but that doesn't work on this model at the moment either.
apart from that it's all good ☺
It's not a 'shut up and take my money'
It's like a 'go back to the labs'
note edge looks more attractive. if it has borders on 4 edges I would say 'shut up and take my money'
I'll hold my N3 for a while. the gap prices are short in my country.
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I'm sure Samsung know that metal is less than ideal on a phone, it's a stupid fad.
Note 4 has sharp edges too. It also has that bevelled edge to the glass which is great if you run without a protector but terrible if you do I hated the 2 for that.
Definitely not moving from the 3 to a sharp edged phone, my 4 upgrade in January will most likely get sold immediately.
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I got my upgrade yesterday from note 3 to note 4 and apart from the build quality and the camera there doesnt seem to be that much of a difference if im honest.
i use it for work and was a little disappointed that knox was not available on the 910f model yet, i also tried my knox but that doesn't work on this model at the moment either.
apart from that it's all good ☺
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Really 910F doesn't support MyKnox app?
Is this temporary? Or F doesn't include any knox chips or whatever?
Still testing knox on my 910C and seems that it's pretty nice feature.
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Really 910F doesn't support MyKnox app?
Is this temporary? Or F doesn't include any knox chips or whatever?
Still testing knox on my 910C and seems that it's pretty nice feature.
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I've managed to get it working after some manual setup. It threw me as 910f was missing the knox website but that should be changed soon.
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No the sensor was not installed properly and since the device was rooted the knox was tripped. So warranty no go!
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I'm so sorry for You but even if Knox was tripped You can ask for a repair in warranty if You live in Europe. I'm a consumer lawyer and for my clients I always get warranty service from Samsung even if they try to refuse the reparations.
I am decided to stay on note 3. Then....
Patosbuddy said:
I have all the Samsung Note.
The difference for me between a Note 3 and 4 is all speed and screen.
I'm so happy with the upgrade and I must say I didn't expect to be so impressed about the difference.
So satisfied, but battery is hopelessly bad .
Like Note 1 and 2 the battery drain is ridiculous.
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My experience with the Note 4 is almost the opposite, apart from the screen. Battery life on my Note 4 is very good, at the end of the evening always between 30 and 40% left.
Speed of the device is a different story, stutters all over the place. Totally random, while switching launcher pages, scrolling through calendar or contacts (appr. 120 contacts) and other apps with "list view". My Note is 100% stock.
Not to forget, the fingerprintscanner is an annoying piece of hardware. Having my right thumb fingerprint registered 3 times I always have to swipe more than once/twice in order to unlock.
I'm absolutely not happy with the "update"!!
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I'm so sorry for You but even if Knox was tripped You can ask for a repair in warranty if You live in Europe. I'm a consumer lawyer and for my clients I always get warranty service from Samsung even if they try to refuse the reparations.
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Well I would have done that, I live in Germany but it would have taken them quite a bit of time. I sold it for 500 euros and explained the issue to the buyer. I bought a nexus 5 and Nexus 7 2013 with that money. To my surprise the Nexus series do NOT accept USB OTG natively. I had to get Stickmount from Chainfire to use any additional storage. It really made me wish for my note 3 back even with the sensor issue.
When my wife got the s5, I immediately realized why I like Touchwhiz and its lag. It comes out of the box with a lot of features that other devices need root for..
Like USB OTG
Customized quick settings
All share, (no need for all cast)
Also its cameras are always better with its features.
Plus micro sd
Battery removal and last but not least, It comes with in my opinion the best screens. I love Super OMLED.
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My experience with the Note 4 is almost the opposite, apart from the screen. Battery life on my Note 4 is very good, at the end of the evening always between 30 and 40% left.
Speed of the device is a different story, stutters all over the place. Totally random, while switching launcher pages, scrolling through calendar or contacts (appr. 120 contacts) and other apps with "list view". My Note is 100% stock.
Not to forget, the fingerprintscanner is an annoying piece of hardware. Having my right thumb fingerprint registered 3 times I always have to swipe more than once/twice in order to unlock.
I'm absolutely not happy with the "update"!!
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It sounds like you don't have the latest firmware.
I can't make my phone lag at all.
I can scroll as fast as I in contacts (988) pictures (764)
with out any lagging.
If you take a picture and press the photo on the left lower corner.
If it doesn't pop up instantly I guess your phone is on the same firmware as min was before I updated.
It was lagging in every way before update.
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It sounds like you don't have the latest firmware.
I can't make my phone lag at all.
I can scroll as fast as I in contacts (988) pictures (764)
with out any lagging.
If you take a picture and press the photo on the left lower corner.
If it doesn't pop up instantly I guess your phone is on the same firmware as min was before I updated.
It was lagging in every way before update.
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You're right, I don't have the latest firmware.
i got note4 cheap so upgrade was right to do.
in my opinion they polished everything that was not so good on note3 like edge, camera, adding fingerprint lock, front camera, fast charge and for me usb 2.0.
but if someone would ask me would you pay 50% more to get note 4 i would say no.
Biggest disadvantage on note 4 is that he does not have temperature and humidity sensor (((
Forgive me members for I have sinned... It's been far too long since I popped a SIM in my OnePlus One
I've been using my iPhone 6+ exclusively for months now for a few reasons I'm hoping to have answered here by real-world users. I'm no stranger to Android, but I have fallen in a bad groove with iOS and just settling :/
I use the camera a lot. Not for anything super special, but I'm able to take FAST photos when I need it. Hit the button, and it's saved and done in under a second. Sharp, accurate... but tiny at 8mp on a 1080p screen. I've looked at samples of the Note 5 camera, and the quality is good, but how is the speed of the stock camera app? I don't want to have to wait 2-4 seconds before I can regain use of the camera again, nor have to wait 2 seconds for it to take a photo.
Is the built-in email worth using? I have gmail for my personal email, but my company is stuck on a 2003 exchange server and I'm forced to use a generic "email" client on phones I switch to. I need to be able to set priority on outgoing, and flag/star emails. (Everything else I need should be baked into any email client at this point... BCC, attachments, custom sig) Not a huge deal if it's not good... I can use CloudMagic if needed.
It's been a while since I even gave a Samsung phone a glance, but last time I did, screen-burning was a big issue... Is this still a problem anymore with the newer screens? I'm a fan of auto-brightness, but I input text a lot, and rarely change keyboards. I don't want to find out in a year that my screen has been burned beyond repair
Any help with these would be greatly appreciated. If I like what i'm hearing, I'll be going to T-Mobile this weekend to pick this up!
Thanks all
Hers is a camera speed and quality comparison between the 6s plus and the Note 5, I would say the camera is fast, probably not that fast as iphone but you will get better quality photos with the Note 5
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Apple-iPhone-6s-Plus-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-Note5_id4095/page/3
As for emails, you can use the built in email client or download any other from the play store that will do more than you want.
I'm not sure about the screen burning but my guess is that it was more of a concern with the unrealistic and inaccurate Amoled popping colors in the previous generations. The first thing I do is that I switch screen mode to basic as it provides accurate colors and I guess will reduce the probability of screen burning.
Hope it helps.
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Forgive me members for I have sinned... It's been far too long since I popped a SIM in my OnePlus One
I've been using my iPhone 6+ exclusively for months now for a few reasons I'm hoping to have answered here by real-world users. I'm no stranger to Android, but I have fallen in a bad groove with iOS and just settling :/
I use the camera a lot. Not for anything super special, but I'm able to take FAST photos when I need it. Hit the button, and it's saved and done in under a second. Sharp, accurate... but tiny at 8mp on a 1080p screen. I've looked at samples of the Note 5 camera, and the quality is good, but how is the speed of the stock camera app? I don't want to have to wait 2-4 seconds before I can regain use of the camera again, nor have to wait 2 seconds for it to take a photo.
Is the built-in email worth using? I have gmail for my personal email, but my company is stuck on a 2003 exchange server and I'm forced to use a generic "email" client on phones I switch to. I need to be able to set priority on outgoing, and flag/star emails. (Everything else I need should be baked into any email client at this point... BCC, attachments, custom sig) Not a huge deal if it's not good... I can use CloudMagic if needed.
It's been a while since I even gave a Samsung phone a glance, but last time I did, screen-burning was a big issue... Is this still a problem anymore with the newer screens? I'm a fan of auto-brightness, but I input text a lot, and rarely change keyboards. I don't want to find out in a year that my screen has been burned beyond repair
Any help with these would be greatly appreciated. If I like what i'm hearing, I'll be going to T-Mobile this weekend to pick this up!
Thanks all
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You'll be happy with a Note 5 honestly. In terms of the camera, I take rapid photos with mine all the time without issues. There's also a double tap home button function that takes maybe 1.5 seconds to pull the camera up and focus from any screen, even when the screen is turned off. My wife loves using my Note 5 for pictures over her LG G4.
Screen burn in hasn't been a thing for quite some time now. There is however, still the issue of shading that occurs on all AMOLED displays when on dark images, or scrolling a dark Web page. I think the Note 5 and S6 do the best to avoid that issue, but it does happen slightly. It's just not as visible.
Auto brightness is awesome on the Note 5 as well. There's an "over bright" function that kicks in automatically when the sun shines directly on the screen, or when you're in a very bright area (outside). It's awesome, and to me, can be a little overkill even in direct sunlight. Lol. It's a great feature though.
No SD like iPhone, but that's not an issue as we have cloud storage for dayz! Microsoft OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox.....it goes on.
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Jammol said:
You'll be happy with a Note 5 honestly. In terms of the camera, I take rapid photos with mine all the time without issues. There's also a double tap home button function that takes maybe 1.5 seconds to pull the camera up and focus from any screen, even when the screen is turned off. My wife loves using my Note 5 for pictures over her LG G4.
Screen burn in hasn't been a thing for quite some time now. There is however, still the issue of shading that occurs on all AMOLED displays when on dark images, or scrolling a dark Web page. I think the Note 5 and S6 do the best to avoid that issue, but it does happen slightly. It's just not as visible.
Auto brightness is awesome on the Note 5 as well. There's an "over bright" function that kicks in automatically when the sun shines directly on the screen, or when you're in a very bright area (outside). It's awesome, and to me, can be a little overkill even in direct sunlight. Lol. It's a great feature though.
No SD like iPhone, but that's not an issue as we have cloud storage for dayz! Microsoft OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox.....it goes on.
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I appreciate the detailed reply! As you can see from my phones I currently have, I personally don't care about SD storage, and I haven't had a phone with a removable battery since the Galaxy Nexus so I've learned to deal. I checked out the link that @samitro provided, and the difference of 1.93 to 2.1 seconds is all the change I will be experiencing... So basically, it will be the same as far as I am used to
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I appreciate the detailed reply! As you can see from my phones I currently have, I personally don't care about SD storage, and I haven't had a phone with a removable battery since the Galaxy Nexus so I've learned to deal. I checked out the link that @samitro provided, and the difference of 1.93 to 2.1 seconds is all the change I will be experiencing... So basically, it will be the same as far as I am used to
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Good to hear. Glad we were able to help. Will you be rooting it and such when you get one?
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Good to hear. Glad we were able to help. Will you be rooting it and such when you get one?
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Depends... I'm jumping to T-Mobile when I get it, but I have a weird process when I root a phone.
Usually I will go 100% lock & stock UNTIL I find something that I just can't stand (bloat, battery, audio) but if I do root, I look for a stock ROM (or just keep the stock one) and modify it on the phone to remedy the issues I find. I haven't owned a Samsung since the Galaxy Nexus (not really a Samsung phone) and what I am reading about KNOX kinda scares me lol. T-Mobile doesn't really have too much junk on their carrier phones, but it is still there, and it still bugs me. I'm kinda worried about battery life, but I have read a lot here about how to save it sans root access.
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Depends... I'm jumping to T-Mobile when I get it, but I have a weird process when I root a phone.
Usually I will go 100% lock & stock UNTIL I find something that I just can't stand (bloat, battery, audio) but if I do root, I look for a stock ROM (or just keep the stock one) and modify it on the phone to remedy the issues I find. I haven't owned a Samsung since the Galaxy Nexus (not really a Samsung phone) and what I am reading about KNOX kinda scares me lol. T-Mobile doesn't really have too much junk on their carrier phones, but it is still there, and it still bugs me. I'm kinda worried about battery life, but I have read a lot here about how to save it sans root access.
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I like your system. That's the one I use personally as well. I will say that the one thing that will be annoying really quickly is the T-Mobile system app/process adapt.app. It's what they use to root checking or any kind of custom modification of the device. Even when you're not modified though, it'll sit there and pull root access and constantly scan your device, sucking up battery. It's more invasive now on the newest LP build, and on the MM beta that was leaked.
Don't worry about battery on the Note 5. It is surprisingly really good what they were able to pull off on only 3000mAh. You can pretty much freeze most bloat even without root. There's also a thread here for debloating without root using a script that goes undetected.
As far as knox is concerned. Don't root if you plan on using Samsung Pay. Once you modify the kernel, or root the device, the efuse is blown and your knox counter will forever be tripped. Even though you can go back to pure stock, knox will still be tripped and Samsung Pay will never work. There is NO work around.
I love the Note 5. I was skeptical about it because I had a Note 4, but I am glad I got it. It is an upgrade for me over the Note 4. I'll say the one thing I don't like about the Note 5, is that it's not very hand friendly at night when you're on the phone laying in bed, lol.
Awesome camera, fast, no lag... But, full of bloat, unknown battery drain, less settings about some properties!
worth to upgrade?
From Note 2 - No
From Note 3 - Buy a note 2!
From note 4 - Wait for note 6!
From iphone- At least i can flash custom rom and kernel! but it is not an upgrade huh??!
umudeus said:
Awesome camera, fast, no lag... But, full of bloat, unknown battery drain, less settings about some properties!
worth to upgrade?
From Note 2 - No
From Note 3 - Buy a note 2!
From note 4 - Wait for note 6!
From iphone- At least i can flash custom rom and kernel! but it is not an upgrade huh??!
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I appreciate the reply, but I don't think I could go back to a 2012 phone for my needs I'm glad you found a device that is working for you though
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I appreciate the reply, but I don't think I could go back to a 2012 phone for my needs I'm glad you found a device that is working for you though
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Actually i have a note 5 and i am a tired user who wait for marshmallow update. Hi five samsung!!!
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umudeus said:
Actually i have a note 5 and i am a tired user who wait for marshmallow update. Hi five samsung!!!
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Yeah, Marshmallow is nice. I got the OTA from Google for my Nexus 5 and I really enjoyed it. Hopefully Samsung will be open to using a lot of the features already present instead of baking them out.
What are your thoughts? I like to have irda and mhl and I use it quite often.
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Love the phone.
Check my sign for phones. But best phone ive gotten.
Note 4 to Note 7
I have only had mine since late last evening but not being as technically advanced as some and certainly not a power user, mine is being returned to today. My Note 4 hums along just fine and for the price, in my opinion there is not that much difference.
I am coming from note 4 anx will pick up my note 7 today
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Having had to 4 for almost 2 years, the 7 in my opinion is magnitudes better. Speed. Screen. Features. No comparison.
dkb218 said:
Having had to 4 for almost 2 years, the 7 in my opinion is magnitudes better. Speed. Screen. Features. No comparison.
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I agree with everything here....I feel the same way.... Had my n4 for 2 years as well and this N7 is really nice to use...Lots of cool stuff to mess with.
Yup. Me. Had my Note 4 for about 2 years. I will miss it. Gave it to my hubby to use. He had an LG Stylo. It was still in great condition. I just wanted to upgrade to this phone. The only thing I don't like about this phone is the battery being internal. I hope I can keep it for 2 years.
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Two year Note 4 user here too. Love this phone and I'm glad I took the plunge! The camera is amazing! One thing I notice is that it seems slower going through my app drawer, is there a setting I'm missing? My 4 was almost too fast.
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Count my wife and I in! However I'm keeping my Note 4 as a backup, just-in-case.
I had a note 4 and just got n7. Simply amazing. Feels so much lighter n smaller but a thing of beauty. Far superior i feel.
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Note 4 to Note 7 user here too!
Loving the Note 7 so much right now, almost everything are huge improvements, though... there are some things that does bother me, but not enough to matter.
Pros:
1. The fingerprint scanner! Finally, there's no more swiping on that home button and its much more accurate. Damn, it was actually quite embarrassing to constantly swipe over that fingerprint scanner on the Note 4 and have it miss when friends are just tapping their's to unlock.
2. Camera! Although I'll miss the higher resolution photos (since I like to zoom in closely on some photos), the quality of the photos is amazing! Especially the improvements over on the front camera end. The introduction of the front camera flash is extremely helpful too, since I'm often taking selfies with friends late at night.
That new camera interface too... I can't even find a word to express it. Simply, the best.
For Selfies, there's not just skin tones anymore and there's even sliders for a Skinnier Face!
3. Always On Display and Pinning Notes! Simply a gorgeous feature that I knew will be constantly used. Love how double tapping notifications on the Always On Display can bring you straight to the app.
Pinning notes is unbelievably useful too especially when I'm leaving the house for an errand or when I want to mark down something I want to do early in the morning. (Don't forget to update the Always On Display so notes will appear under the clock and date)
4. Iris Scanner! Strangely, I'm unlocking through Iris Scanner more than fingerprint which might be because I'm too used to pressing Home to turn on screen then swiping down to unlock (bad habit from Note 4).
What this does on this phone (since I have fingerprint and Iris set up) is that because I'm swiping down a large enough distance... it switches to Iris Scanner and unlocks before my finger even swipes down to Fingerprint Scanner.
Truthfully, I have to fix this bad habit, but I still have to say its fun to play with the Iris Scanner.
5. Beautiful Design Changes. Although Note 4 wasn't bad, I'm seriously loving all the UI changes that Samsung has made over these two years.
6. SPen! Seriously loving the new SPen! That superfine tip! I'm a heavy SPen user back in my Note4 days, but this new SPen is somehow making me use it even more than before.
I'm not much of a GIF maker so I haven't tried that yet, but I really love the new Glance feature. Extremely helpful for multi-tasking which is what I do most on the phone.
Translate isn't as helpful since it only translates one word at a time and the language I need to translate most isn't on the Origin List.
Magnify is nice, but not as necessary.
7. Battery Improvements! From Day 1, it already feels like the battery lasts longer than the Note 4 at day 1, even after all I've done to it.
I'm not sure about others, but after a while my Note 4 had this serious bug where it'll automatically turn off at around 40-60% and mark itself as 0%.
Strangely enough, a battery replacement wasn't enough to fix this. This bug pretty much made using the Note 4 for more than 2 hours off the charger impossible. Thus, I'm happy with the battery life of the Note7 even after all the services I have turned on for it.
Actually having Wireless Charging without buying a separate item to install in is great
8. Secure Folder is simply the best feature, outside of the SPen, on this phone.
9. Water Resistant! Who could ever hate this feature?
Cons:
1. Speaker... Honestly, the sound appears to be lower than the Note 4, but I'm not sure if its because the microphone is pointed downwards.
2. Edge... Truthfully, whoever said they rather get the S7 Edge over the Note7 because they see the SPen, Iris Scanner, and etc as gimmicks are simply crazy. Nothing screams more of gimmicks than the Edge Screen features.
This isn't that the feature isn't nice though... I could see why its useful. However, there's just not enough Edge Panels available that makes it useful to use. For my personal use, I only have the App Panel, Widget Panel, Contacts Panel, and Widgets Panel set up... yet I have yet to actually use any of them.
3. Screen Protectors... I used to use only tempered glass screen protectors on my Note4, but that's pretty much impossible on the Note7. Using a film screen protector right now, but even these peel a bit over the edge.
4. Samsung Notes... Although its nice to see that they're making one app to consolidate all SPen uses, I can't help but not like the new app.
There's a few features that is missing from S-Note that I really like and this just doesn't cut it for me.
Honestly, S-Note felt like a great writing tool for me, whereas Samsung Notes feels like its just a collection of notes instead.
Looking to move to either Evernote or OneNote as a writing alternative now.
I'm also looking for an alternative drawing app since Samsung Notes doesn't feel like a great place to draw anymore either.
That's pretty much my personal review of the pro and con changes I have from switching to the Note 7 from the Note 4.
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4. Samsung Notes... Although its nice to see that they're making one app to consolidate all SPen uses, I can't help but not like the new app.
There's a few features that is missing from S-Note that I really like and this just doesn't cut it for me.
Honestly, S-Note felt like a great writing tool for me, whereas Samsung Notes feels like its just a collection of notes instead.
Looking to move to either Evernote or OneNote as a writing alternative now.
I'm also looking for an alternative drawing app since Samsung Notes doesn't feel like a great place to draw anymore either.
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GhostZini said:
I had a note 4 and just got n7. Simply amazing. Feels so much lighter n smaller but a thing of beauty. Far superior i feel.
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Agree. Just love the new sPen. =)
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You can't compare it to a Note 4. Not even on the same planet.
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I have paid my deposit. My biggest concern is the battery is for you think if you use it the same way as before you will get at least 20 percent more screen on time. Thanks
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Overall good, few minor and one major problem
I had the Note 4 from T-mobile since release. Loved it (wife has it now). Been running the Note7 since mid-day Thursday 8/18.
Major drawback is the battery: I lose 6-7% per hour with it untouched flat on a desk. Doze does not seem to ever kick in.
Minor annoyances: The new notes app is not as good as the old one. It's missing backgrounds and magnified writing.
Good stuff: The screen, bright and gloriously sharp. The increased sensitivity of the stylus is noticeable when handwriting, i can write in readable cursive. Wireless charging (because you're going to need it!) The secure folder to keep my work stuff separate. The "real" fingerprint scanner performs much better. And finally, it is noticeably faster and more responsive than the Note4.
Two year Note 4 user here. First phone I've ever kept for 2 years. And that was difficult because it was the AT&T version with no root.
I loved the Note 4 edge as a separate screen. It really increases productivity. This Note 7 edge seems more gimmicky, more of a novelty than an advantage. I loved text and calls notifications being presented on the edge so as not to interrupt what I'm doing when they arrive. It's a little thing bit it rocked in my opinion.
That said. The Note 7 is a huge leap forward and one I'm glad I've made.
--Mike
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Zolares said:
Note 4 to Note 7 user here too!
Loving the Note 7 so much right now, almost everything are huge improvements, though... there are some things that does bother me, but not enough to matter.
Pros:
1. The fingerprint scanner! Finally, there's no more swiping on that home button and its much more accurate. Damn, it was actually quite embarrassing to constantly swipe over that fingerprint scanner on the Note 4 and have it miss when friends are just tapping their's to unlock.
2. Camera! Although I'll miss the higher resolution photos (since I like to zoom in closely on some photos), the quality of the photos is amazing! Especially the improvements over on the front camera end. The introduction of the front camera flash is extremely helpful too, since I'm often taking selfies with friends late at night.
That new camera interface too... I can't even find a word to express it. Simply, the best.
For Selfies, there's not just skin tones anymore and there's even sliders for a Skinnier Face!
3. Always On Display and Pinning Notes! Simply a gorgeous feature that I knew will be constantly used. Love how double tapping notifications on the Always On Display can bring you straight to the app.
Pinning notes is unbelievably useful too especially when I'm leaving the house for an errand or when I want to mark down something I want to do early in the morning. (Don't forget to update the Always On Display so notes will appear under the clock and date)
4. Iris Scanner! Strangely, I'm unlocking through Iris Scanner more than fingerprint which might be because I'm too used to pressing Home to turn on screen then swiping down to unlock (bad habit from Note 4).
What this does on this phone (since I have fingerprint and Iris set up) is that because I'm swiping down a large enough distance... it switches to Iris Scanner and unlocks before my finger even swipes down to Fingerprint Scanner.
Truthfully, I have to fix this bad habit, but I still have to say its fun to play with the Iris Scanner.
5. Beautiful Design Changes. Although Note 4 wasn't bad, I'm seriously loving all the UI changes that Samsung has made over these two years.
6. SPen! Seriously loving the new SPen! That superfine tip! I'm a heavy SPen user back in my Note4 days, but this new SPen is somehow making me use it even more than before.
I'm not much of a GIF maker so I haven't tried that yet, but I really love the new Glance feature. Extremely helpful for multi-tasking which is what I do most on the phone.
Translate isn't as helpful since it only translates one word at a time and the language I need to translate most isn't on the Origin List.
Magnify is nice, but not as necessary.
7. Battery Improvements! From Day 1, it already feels like the battery lasts longer than the Note 4 at day 1, even after all I've done to it.
I'm not sure about others, but after a while my Note 4 had this serious bug where it'll automatically turn off at around 40-60% and mark itself as 0%.
Strangely enough, a battery replacement wasn't enough to fix this. This bug pretty much made using the Note 4 for more than 2 hours off the charger impossible. Thus, I'm happy with the battery life of the Note7 even after all the services I have turned on for it.
Actually having Wireless Charging without buying a separate item to install in is great
8. Secure Folder is simply the best feature, outside of the SPen, on this phone.
9. Water Resistant! Who could ever hate this feature?
Cons:
1. Speaker... Honestly, the sound appears to be lower than the Note 4, but I'm not sure if its because the microphone is pointed downwards.
2. Edge... Truthfully, whoever said they rather get the S7 Edge over the Note7 because they see the SPen, Iris Scanner, and etc as gimmicks are simply crazy. Nothing screams more of gimmicks than the Edge Screen features.
This isn't that the feature isn't nice though... I could see why its useful. However, there's just not enough Edge Panels available that makes it useful to use. For my personal use, I only have the App Panel, Widget Panel, Contacts Panel, and Widgets Panel set up... yet I have yet to actually use any of them.
3. Screen Protectors... I used to use only tempered glass screen protectors on my Note4, but that's pretty much impossible on the Note7. Using a film screen protector right now, but even these peel a bit over the edge.
4. Samsung Notes... Although its nice to see that they're making one app to consolidate all SPen uses, I can't help but not like the new app.
There's a few features that is missing from S-Note that I really like and this just doesn't cut it for me.
Honestly, S-Note felt like a great writing tool for me, whereas Samsung Notes feels like its just a collection of notes instead.
Looking to move to either Evernote or OneNote as a writing alternative now.
I'm also looking for an alternative drawing app since Samsung Notes doesn't feel like a great place to draw anymore either.
That's pretty much my personal review of the pro and con changes I have from switching to the Note 7 from the Note 4.
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Great reply. Well thought out and presented. Thanks.
--Mike
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I am coming from note 4 after 2 years, and I have the note 7 for couple days and I am loving how the phone feels in your hand and how light it is. day and night difference between two. it is a major upgrade for sure. on the other hand, finding out couple missing futures on note 7 from note 4, like action memo! it is a huge miss!!
Also, I noticed that Samsung keyboard does no longer supports the emoji prediction!! which I was using like crazy. Anyone know how to get the emoji prediction back without installing a new app like google keyboard or swiftkey? Also, any ideas on getting back the action memo? I did installed S note and S note side loads but nothing there.
and the speaker is very tinny compared to note 4 which is no good. but nothing major.
I'm at a family members home, that is in a week T-Mobile area. On my Note 4 I had Band 12 LTE, indoors a week Band 12 LTE. In some places i was switching over to Hspa, or edge. Now on the Note 7 I'm getting lte throughout the house, 109db or lower. Did a sweetest on both the Note got 3mb, while the Note 7 got 13mb down.
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rdobbert said:
I lose 6-7% per hour with it untouched flat on a desk.
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That does not sound right. You should really do some digging to see what is causing your battery drain. I took mine off the charger at 100% a little over 2 hours ago and have been playing with it quite heavily trying to get it set up, and have only lost about 7%. That's 3.5% per hour while using it almost non-stop.