Ebay Middleman for Taobao purchases - Moto X Q&A

Last time I purchased a Moto X bootloader unlock code directly from the chinese code seller on taobao. But as I recall it was a quite a hassle. And I can't find my taobao or alipay log in info so I would have to create new logons.
Weren't people using middlemen who knew how to speak/read/write chinese to buy from the taobao code seller last time? If so, who were they using?

That was being run by the same guy referred to as the Chinese middleman in this forum. That well has dried up again with no word of a possible return.

cntryby429 said:
That was being run by the same guy referred to as the Chinese middleman in this forum. That well has dried up again with no word of a possible return.
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Is this the same seller?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w137644-59401639.41.vDz5YN&id=38051549195

Anyone try this service?
http://www.yoybuy.com/en/

The taobao middleman experience as a whole is a little bit odd, bhiner.com seems pretty decent, and they're definitely trustworthy__the item I wanted was out of stock and they refunded my money within a day.

I gave this a try, as above, taobao decent and professional, but apparently my 2014 Moto X couldn't be unlocked. Refund next day via PayPal.

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[Q] Too good to be true?

This simply must be a scam of some sort, right? Who could be selling touchpads on Ebay for $40 with free shipping?
Ebay item 280795551667
Sorry, too newbie to be allowed to post a link...
Yeah and for a 32GB model as well.
/itm/New-TouchPad-32GB-Wi-Fi-9-7in-Glossy-Black-/280795551667?pt=Apparel_Merchandise&vxp=mtr&hash=item4160b817b3
We'll see, I just bought 2. Covered under the Buyer protection and I can afford to lose $80 if it's a scam. I've bought from this buyer a few times and never had a problem. Thanks for the lead maybe?!?
I hope it is legit...you've actually bought from this character before, lloydcabraham? Electronics?
I ordered one, I've been scammed before on eBay, but since it has buyer protection if its a scam we will get full refund. Since about 130 people have bought so far we won't have too much trouble reporting the scam, if it comes to that. Hopefully it's not a scam.
Looks like 499 of them were sold over the course of a day or so...let's see if anyone actually gets one delivered...fingers crossed
They are coming from China I will be very surprised if you got the touchpad rather then some KIRF from china.
I would be surprised to even get a KIRF. I figured it was a "take the money and run" kind of things. Still, even if it is a KIRF, Ebay and Paypal would seem to offer some protection to the buyer...I hope...
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Since the item description states that the brand is HP, then we would be protected by eBay and Paypal. But we would probably have to pay return shipping.
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Still, even if it is a KIRF, Ebay and Paypal would seem to offer some protection to the buyer...I hope...
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What if the buyer receives an empty box? How is paypal/ebay going to protect you from that? The seller obviously shipped something, they can say that the buyer is lying and that the product was in the box.
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What if the buyer receives an empty box? How is paypal/ebay going to protect you from that? The seller obviously shipped something, they can say that the buyer is lying and that the product was in the box.
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if that happens there will be 499 ppl stating the same. i just received shipping details from ebay. it cost me 35 dollars since i had 10% coupon, hopefully its something worth that
It a scam nuthouse probably will get your money back eventually.
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What if the buyer receives an empty box? How is paypal/ebay going to protect you from that? The seller obviously shipped something, they can say that the buyer is lying and that the product was in the box.
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Not 500 of them. Plus you video tapenit and throw that theory out the window. Not to mention the shipping weight would be off. I would buy one and video tape the opening of the box.
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I hope Leo is right...it does make sense that any seller could scam a buyer or two by sending the old "empty box"- but 499 empty boxes is difficult for Ebay and Paypal to ignore...
Or, perhaps, HP Touchpads will arrive...another Festivus miracle!
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I'm afraid you all got scammed here, but probably Paypal will return your money. It's not that this seller is a fraud, but probably his account has been hacked. Maybe you all are very lucky, but normally nothing branded comes cheaper from China.
I live in China and recently bought my TP on the Chinese Ebay clone Taobao.com, I payed 250 USD for the 16G version..
Funny thing is it was originally send from Shanghai (I can see that on the package, HP Export zone Shanghai, not sure where it was produced in China) to a buyer in Memphis USA, which bought it for 99 USD I guess. From Memphis it was probably sold through Ebay to some guy in Shanghai, possibly for 200 USD or less. This guy sold it to me on Taobao for 250 USD, which is still a very decent price if I compare to other tablets on the market. What a world..
hi
yesterday I received tracking number anyone else?
maguirre said:
hi
yesterday I received tracking number anyone else?
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i received a tracking number the first day, but it hasnt been updated. Also the seller account has been closed. I will wait a couple of day to see if theres any activity on the tracking, then i will put up a claim with paypal.
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So, Ebay gave me my money back asap; but today I received a little package that contained a chinese trinket (rather than 3 tablet computers). Three cheers to Ebay for getting it right immediately...
Milo_Hutz said:
So, Ebay gave me my money back asap; but today I received a little package that contained a chinese trinket (rather than 3 tablet computers). Three cheers to Ebay for getting it right immediately...
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Let me get this straight...free suspense AND a free trinket!?
ooo what kind of trinkets?

Better to buy "new" international version or refurbished from Best Buy?

So I got one on amazon that was supposed to be new and a us warrantied model.
Turns out it's not a us model. Also the box wasn't sealed and Sony says that the warranty info says it would expire over a month prior to a year past my purchase date... indicating to them that it has been previously activated.
I noticed best buy occasionally has them refurbished with a 90 day geek squad warranty.
Any thoughts on which is the better option?
Thanks in adavance
I wouldn't buy a refurbished phone, but that's just me. Too bad you can't get the US version sold by Amazon anymore, and too bad that seller shafted you - looks like they are the only NEW seller on Amazon currently.
Do you have any international sellers in mind? Perhaps depending on the vendor, you could at least have some kind of return option for the worst case scenario of a DOA phone.
I hope you can get this all resolved. And partly because I'm hoping you'll share the exact steps you take to get root/fingerprint/t-mo all working on the phone so I can replicate it. Good luck.
camaro322hp said:
I wouldn't buy a refurbished phone, but that's just me. Too bad you can't get the US version sold by Amazon anymore, and too bad that seller shafted you - looks like they are the only NEW seller on Amazon currently.
Do you have any international sellers in mind? Perhaps depending on the vendor, you could at least have some kind of return option for the worst case scenario of a DOA phone.
I hope you can get this all resolved. And partly because I'm hoping you'll share the exact steps you take to get root/fingerprint/t-mo all working on the phone so I can replicate it. Good luck.
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I'm sort of leaning towards the international one, but i have my doubts that this one they sent me is new. I should have no problem flashing the modified firmware to keep the fingerprint sensor and enable wifi calling/vo-lte. I just worry about the battery lifespan mostly.
Regardless by the time I'm finished unlocking and rooting I won't be sending it in to sony for any repairs.
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I'm sort of leaning towards the international one, but i have my doubts that this one they sent me is new...... I just worry about the battery lifespan mostly.
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I would feel exactly the same. The battery unknown is a big reason why I would avoid refurbed phones. Even though you bought from a 3rd party on Amazon, you should have some protections from amazon, especially in the case where the item is not as described. Sounds like you have proof of that, so I would pursue trying to return that.
As far as where to get a replacement though, I'm not sure, unless you want to buy from a European supplier such as Clove.
camaro322hp said:
I would feel exactly the same. The battery unknown is a big reason why I would avoid refurbed phones. Even though you bought from a 3rd party on Amazon, you should have some protections from amazon, especially in the case where the item is not as described. Sounds like you have proof of that, so I would pursue trying to return that.
As far as where to get a replacement though, I'm not sure, unless you want to buy from a European supplier such as Clove.
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Never heard of Clove. Pretty reputable? As long as exchange is good it should still come in under $400 us.
I've actually asked the amazon company if they would exchange for a sealed in box model or give me a discount since it wasn't as described. They have pretty good feedback, I just worry about the battery.
I recently got a brand new international model from Ebay.
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Never heard of Clove. Pretty reputable? As long as exchange is good it should still come in under $400 us.
I've actually asked the amazon company if they would exchange for a sealed in box model or give me a discount since it wasn't as described. They have pretty good feedback, I just worry about the battery.
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I haven't personally used Clove, but they've been mentioned by XDA users over the years as a good source of unlocked phones. Or, like Dean says, there is always Ebay if you end up having to return your Amazon phone.
POMF2K said:
So I got one on amazon that was supposed to be new and a us warrantied model.
Turns out it's not a us model. Also the box wasn't sealed and Sony says that the warranty info says it would expire over a month prior to a year past my purchase date... indicating to them that it has been previously activated.
Thanks in adavance
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At least here in Germany the phones did not come sealed (we bought 3 phones so far) and the Warranty started at a date that was much earlier than our purchase date. Dropping an email to Sony fixed the problem
I'd get a new one, and it's not like region matters if you're planning to flash an international firmware to get the fingerprint sensor working anyway
POMF2K said:
Any thoughts on which is the better option?
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You could buy a new one from Amazon Germany AND save some money. Then the fingerprint scanner will work out of the box.
Didgesteve said:
You could buy a new one from Amazon Germany AND save some money. Then the fingerprint scanner will work out of the box.
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This is a good find, but why you guys do not recommend buying used phones from Amazon? For example this one: Amazon.de blue xz1c.
I mean, the only concern would be the battery, right? Because there is no info about how much and for how long it has been used.
I am also looking for auctions on eBay.
Didgesteve said:
You could buy a new one from Amazon Germany AND save some money. Then the fingerprint scanner will work out of the box.
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Assuming I got a fair exchange rate it would still be right around $400 us for a new one. Even if shipping it here wasn't crazy expensive I'd still have to wait for it.

purchase asus rog 2 phone

where can i purchase online the phone china version no problem.
Yeah, couldn't find it on aliexpress.
Giztop.com has it listed
You will need to wait 3 weeks or 1 month or even more. The stock is limited they are currently locally selling the phones in batches every 4-7days and every time it's sold out.
Is Giztop even legit? I feel the list thing as in stock but ship it 1 month later. Also it's at an inflated cost right now being $100 more, I would wait a month
I've bought a phone from them before and purchased this from them. I'll see when it ships and arrives.
It looks like Alibaba is selling them. https://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=asus+rog+phone+2
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Is Giztop even legit? I feel the list thing as in stock but ship it 1 month later. Also it's at an inflated cost right now being $100 more, I would wait a month
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Yes exactly, why $100 more? I prefer to wait for aliexpress.
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Giztop.com has it listed
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Giztop website disappeared. which is fishy.
i wanna buy ROG 2 phone, any idea where ? giztop website gone and only website i find is Liaow. They have it in stock, but i cant find anything about this seller.
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i wanna buy ROG 2 phone, any idea where ? giztop website gone and only website i find is Liaow. They have it in stock, but i cant find anything about this seller.
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trusted website.I bought my phone from that website
Liaow is a trusted seller, I can confirm.
they're usual more expensive, but very thrustworthy and good communication..
I've bought my last 3 phones from that shop, including my current ROG 2.
aolazaba said:
Liaow is a trusted seller, I can confirm.
they're usual more expensive, but very thrustworthy and good communication..
I've bought my last 3 phones from that shop, including my current ROG 2.
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thanks for your info, and how fast did you receive your phones? and without any customs fee?
lortwarCECH said:
thanks for your info, and how fast did you receive your phones? and without any customs fee?
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Hi,
I received it at my door 4 days after them getting the first stock (they use DHL Express). Usually full processing, shipping and getting through customs takes max 5 days.
I did of course get to pay customs tax, around 28 EUR (+-30 USD), I live in Barcelona.
It arrived in perfect condition and included a simple charging adapter.
aolazaba said:
Hi,
I received it at my door 4 days after them getting the first stock (they use DHL Express). Usually full processing, shipping and getting through customs takes max 5 days.
I did of course get to pay customs tax, around 28 EUR (+-30 USD), I live in Barcelona.
It arrived in perfect condition and included a simple charging adapter.
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ok thanks for your info, i live in Czech Republic so it will be similar
Liaow is $200 more than original price. it is quiet expensive without including shipment cost and customs.
giztop probably buys from JD and marks it up by $100
Even if you live overseas, you can purchase this mobile phone at the Chinese version of jingdong.com official store.
liaow wants $1150 shipped for the RoG Phone 2
I hope prices go down eventually. I am content with my OP7 Pro but would like something with better battery and no curved edges.
Something tells me it won't go down, blah.
tanasinn. said:
Even if you live overseas, you can purchase this mobile phone at the Chinese version of jingdong.com official store.
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is it reliable? the only chinese I buy from is Aliexpress, and sometimes the vendors are mean/tricky. i found this one:
https://item.jd.com/100006808184.html
But i m relying on google translate to understand the page... I m a bit worried about risk of not being able to communicate with the seller or so if anything happens... and there is no shipping cost?
Also i was reading the comments on the phone on JD and soo many complaints about defects in screens. it seems they are suffering from quality check ?
which makes me worried as Asus won't support tencent out of China...
And I tried to create an account and it requests to use phone number. I added my phone number but not receiving sms with the code. I guess they have the international code to my country wrong.
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Question Reliable Asian shops to buy from a SM-G9980 to be sent to the EU

The question to some of you who successful accomplished a purchase and got the new toy in originally sealed box.
I already tried once, and placed an order by T-dimension, but after one week waiting time they informed me they were not able to deliver and cancelled my order.
Any suggestion on reliable shop with PayPal as a payment option would be much appreciated.
Don't know where in Europe you are, but I'm in Scotland and ordered the G9980 model from UltraOnlineUK for £704 on 14/05.
The tracking from them was terrible - there was no change for 12 days. Then on 26/05 there were updates to the tracking with it saying I'd receive it 28/05 by Royal Mail. So I received it today, exactly 14 days after placing my order.
It arrived with the original seal intact - and I paid via PayPal.
You can check their trustpilot rating for a whole load of mixed reviews, but in the end it was worth it for me.
I've attached a screenshot of the tracking, just incase you are able to order from there and are curious.
Edit: Oops, your title said EU, not Europe. So this probably isn't much help!
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Don't know where in Europe you are, but I'm in Scotland and ordered the G9980 model
Edit: Oops, your title said EU, not Europe. So this probably isn't much help!
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Thanks for your response, you information is quite useful indeed.
The ultraonline (UK) (DE) (FR).com sells across the whole Europe including EU.
But all those terrifying reviews on trustpilot...
Nevertheless, it's good to know that some one has actually received the phone.
I used Etoren. It was referenced on kimovil. I am satisfied. It was delivered in a week. No problem at all. They have good reviews in trustpilot also.

Question Samsung S21 Ultra bought from the USA - help/advice needed

Hi folks , I bought this Samsung S21 Ultra from EBay US ( I wanted the snapdragon version). I’m confused as to the message that I am receiving . I have checked Swappa, checkmend and it is a perfectly clean phone with no issues or anything outstanding . So why would it present me this message ? I’ve been on chat with Xfinity live agent , who have said they can’t just unlock it from the IMEI but they need the account number that it was purchased , the sim/number used associated with the account in order to submit an unlock request . (Person who sell it to me is just a general reseller) . The phone is not stolen or has outstanding finance , so why would it present this issue .
I can’t provide the agent with the details as o don’t have them and I can’t get them . Do I have any options here at all ?
You need to contact the seller through ebay and file dispute immediately. The phone is carrier locked. Meaning they have a balance due on the phone or they were to lazy to call xfinity and ask for it to be unlocked or couldn't show proof of purchase. Either way, the phone is useless until xfinity unlocks it.
Return it.
You can't do anything with it
Simply raise dispute with eBay and get refund.
You can unlock it with third larty but phone will miss some features if unlocked this way it will coat 120$
That's just one of the risks associated with purchasing a used device. Disputing it with Ebay or PayPal is the best option at this point.
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That's just one of the risks associated with purchasing a used device. Disputing it with Ebay or PayPal is the best option at this point.
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Indeed. I don't like ebay.
A lot of scamming going on in general now.
Best to talk to the vendor on the phone before buying. Ask the right questions and feel them out. Avoid vendors that won't talk by phone.
I paid $800 for a new N10+ Snapdragon 3 weeks ago. Sounds high, but it was a factory sealed box and the 10+ that was in perfect condition. It was worth the extra $200-400. The vendor was easy to contact and seemed trustworthy. The phone arrived 3 days after ordered, free shipping, shipped day of order. Good to their word.
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You need to contact the seller through ebay and file dispute immediately. The phone is carrier locked. Meaning they have a balance due on the phone or they were to lazy to call xfinity and ask for it to be unlocked or couldn't show proof of purchase. Either way, the phone is useless until xfinity unlocks it.
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I chekced on SWAPPA and CHeckmend but there wasnt anything that showed as any finance owed or any blacklisting or sorts. Im not sure if i have grounds to raise a dispute as the seller said it would only work on xfinity .,Is there anything whatsoever i can do , via rooting etc ?
blackhawk said:
Indeed. I don't like ebay.
A lot of scamming going on in general now.
Best to talk to the vendor on the phone before buying. Ask the right questions and feel them out. Avoid vendors that won't talk by phone.
I paid $800 for a new N10+ Snapdragon 3 weeks ago. Sounds high, but it was a factory sealed box and the 10+ that was in perfect condition. It was worth the extra $200-400. The vendor was easy to contact and seemed trustworthy. The phone arrived 3 days after ordered, free shipping, shipped day of order. Good to their word.
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I chekced on SWAPPA and CHeckmend but there wasnt anything that showed as any finance owed or any blacklisting or sorts. Im not sure if i have grounds to raise a dispute as the seller said it would only work on xfinity .,Is there anything whatsoever i can do , via rooting etc ?
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I chekced on SWAPPA and CHeckmend but there wasnt anything that showed as any finance owed or any blacklisting or sorts. Im not sure if i have grounds to raise a dispute as the seller said it would only work on xfinity .,Is there anything whatsoever i can do , via rooting etc ?
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If bought with a card, call the bank and file a charge back request. The phone must be returned before they can do anything.
If things really go south file a complaint with your state attorney general's office.
That sounds like theft by wire fraud to me, a felony.

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