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So, my still rooted and S-On Sprint HTC M8 just received a notification that an update is available.
I AM going to eventually root and s-off this thing, but I am going to be going on a few trips soon so I figured it would be best to wait until after just in case something goes wrong so I won't be out of a phone while not at home.
Just wanted to know if anybody can confirm if the current firewater S-Off and/or Weaksauce temproot methods still work if you install these on an unmodified Sprint M8.
Cyber Akuma said:
So, my still rooted and S-On Sprint HTC M8 just received a notification that an update is available.
I AM going to eventually root and s-off this thing, but I am going to be going on a few trips soon so I figured it would be best to wait until after just in case something goes wrong so I won't be out of a phone while not at home.
Just wanted to know if anybody can confirm if the current firewater S-Off and/or Weaksauce temproot methods still work if you install these on an unmodified Sprint M8.
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I think you're rolling the dice there. Even if you find one that can be S-Off'd with the new firmware on it that doesn't necessarily mean that the next person will get the same result as we have seen phones that are identical in software and firmware both fail and succeed at obtaining S-Off. In short, I think the it's always great to get a sampling of results but I do not believe we would be able to make any accurate conclusions, regarding S-Off anyway, from the data.
I suppose I am interested in knowing whether even a single M8 with the new firmware is able to S-Off with firewater but that's just the curiousity inside me.^^
slimbrady said:
I think you're rolling the dice there. Even if you find one that can be S-Off'd with the new firmware on it that doesn't necessarily mean that the next person will get the same result as we have seen phones that are identical in software and firmware both fail and succeed at obtaining S-Off. In short, I think the it's always great to get a sampling of results but I do not believe we would be able to make any accurate conclusions, regarding S-Off anyway, from the data.
I suppose I am interested in knowing whether even a single M8 with the new firmware is able to S-Off with firewater but that's just the curiousity inside me.^^
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Well, I'm about to give up on achieving S-Off. Being that I don't tinker with my device the way that I messed around with my previous device, I might be throwing in the towel. I'm possibly even giving up root. This is my first device that truly didn't need to be rooted.
But then again....there's free tethering....
AarSyl said:
This is my first device that truly didn't need to be rooted.
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The whole **** with how KitKat limits your SD card access alone is enough to get me to root.
Cyber Akuma said:
The whole **** with how KitKat limits your SD card access alone is enough to get me to root.
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Riiight....forgot about that.
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Go root or go home. (Sorry, couldn't resist)
If you're already at home....well...you're cheating and you should feel bad....so bad that you might as well root anyway because things can't get much worse for you!
Just to let you all know....
Went back to a stock Rom, locked my bootloader, then received the .13 update(could only find .9 stock to use) then the .15 update and was able to unlock my bootloader again with the same .bin file I received from HTCDev, flash a custom Rom, and restore my root with no problems at all.
Tried Firewater again for the heck of it and it actually chugged one bottle....but then whelped me again! =/
slimbrady said:
Just to let you all know....
Went back to a stock Rom, locked my bootloader, then received the .13 update(could only find .9 stock to use) then the .15 update and was able to unlock my bootloader again with the same .bin file I received from HTCDev, flash a custom Rom, and restore my root with no problems at all.
Tried Firewater again for the heck of it and it actually chugged one bottle....but then whelped me again! =/
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For next time, I don't think you need to lock the bootloader to receive the OTA.
rhe12 said:
For next time, I don't think you need to lock the bootloader to receive the OTA.
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Hmm well I'd done everything else except for that and it failed so locked it and it worked. Maybe it was just a fluke but either way only took a couple seconds to both lock and unlock again. =)
Edit: Yeah pretty sure you do have to lock it if you're stuck S-On like I am. S-Off most definitely doesn't need to though.
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Just to let you all know....
Went back to a stock Rom, locked my bootloader, then received the .13 update(could only find .9 stock to use) then the .15 update and was able to unlock my bootloader again with the same .bin file I received from HTCDev, flash a custom Rom, and restore my root with no problems at all.
Tried Firewater again for the heck of it and it actually chugged one bottle....but then whelped me again! =/
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Has the new radio helped your reception?
I can't s-off either. Big pain to go stock to get OTA's.
Wait, I admit I haven't kept up much on S-Off news, so you mean it's random if your M8 will be able to S-Off or not?
im also failed when want to s-off
how i want to unlock gsm my sprint harman kardon edition if cannot s-off ?
is there any method to unlock gsm without s-off ?
comstar said:
Has the new radio helped your reception?
I can't s-off either. Big pain to go stock to get OTA's.
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Well I noticed that in certain areas I actuallly start picking up the Spark network where I never exceeded 3G speeds in the past so that is somewhat exciting. Didn't really have any reception issues persay previously but I would say it has been slightly improved overall.....or at least it seems that way to me. Could just be towers too I suppose but meh =)
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Wait, I admit I haven't kept up much on S-Off news, so you mean it's random if your M8 will be able to S-Off or not?
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Pretty much....We've discounted "batches" being the case by virtue of serial number comparisons and, as far as I am aware, no one has been able to identify any kind of pattern to it.
You would think that the newer the phone the less likely you could s-off with it...and perhaps that is the case....but we've seen people as recent as this week go in and get one, take it home and firewater s-off with it while I've had mine for much longer and can't...maybe the ones people are getting were sitting around for a long time I guess...All pretty much educated (or not educated) guessing at this point.
Hey everyone, i am new to this XDA developers site, but have many years of experience with android devices, my latest one though, well is the htc one, i would like to know, is there any risk to using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Command, i am just wondering this because i would like to unlock the full capability of this wonderful device, and i only have it a week or two, so i would not like to damage the device by only having it 2 weeks, i love it, but would like to unlock the full potential of it, and i also love sense and stock android, so would be seriously interested.
Bottom Line, Is there any risk of using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Tool?
Thanks very much,
Ir1shwall3.
Ir1shWall3 said:
Hey everyone, i am new to this XDA developers site, but have many years of experience with android devices, my latest one though, well is the htc one, i would like to know, is there any risk to using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Command, i am just wondering this because i would like to unlock the full capability of this wonderful device, and i only have it a week or two, so i would not like to damage the device by only having it 2 weeks, i love it, but would like to unlock the full potential of it, and i also love sense and stock android, so would be seriously interested.
Bottom Line, Is there any risk of using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Tool?
Thanks very much,
Ir1shwall3.
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nope, no risk, either it will work or it wont, if it fails then there is a new one called Sunshine s-off which apparently works on the M7 but you have to pay for it, try firewater first.
I'm still not persuaded, I'm afraid it will harm it and damage my device, maybe I'll do it in the future, but thanks very much for your reply, I gave you a thanks on your answer?
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Ir1shWall3 said:
I'm still not persuaded, I'm afraid it will harm it and damage my device, maybe I'll do it in the future, but thanks very much for your reply, I gave you a thanks on your answer?
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like I said, it wont hurt it at all, it will either work or it wont, read the s-off thread if you don't believe me, ive ran it 50 times to try and get s-off and ended up doing it by java card because firewater failed. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2632351
that was before sunshine came about, if I was still s-on, I would hesitate to pay for and run sunshine right now.
Ir1shWall3 said:
Hey everyone, i am new to this XDA developers site, but have many years of experience with android devices, my latest one though, well is the htc one, i would like to know, is there any risk to using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Command, i am just wondering this because i would like to unlock the full capability of this wonderful device, and i only have it a week or two, so i would not like to damage the device by only having it 2 weeks, i love it, but would like to unlock the full potential of it, and i also love sense and stock android, so would be seriously interested.
Bottom Line, Is there any risk of using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Tool?
Thanks very much,
Ir1shwall3.
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having S-Off etc is the best ever i have done on my htc couldnt imagine now to have s-on again its the ultimate lol.
firewater works however it did take quite some trys back-then before it succeeded, i did alot of reading before i decided
wanting having s-off, pros/cons but conclusion now and after the reading before s-off was a no-brainer (for me)
i remember having the same thoughts to about the bricking but after reading through many topics here and other sites
i wasent that scared of it mostly nervous if it worked or not xD as the guy above says, either it works or not. for me it took many tries to as said, but ones having s-off
you wont look back i believe i guess its a preference since we all have our personal favorite if wanting s-on or off.
i would "advice" reading more through about using firewater getting inputs, i had same thoughts as you with using it at first as long with rooting etc
and i never knew or tried those things actually before i joined this awesome forum and started to use it regular. i see you are quite into the android
from your text to thats good advantage and should help as well with choosing to use or not
im aware of my low post count xD but i dont post/reply just to get posts up, only if im able to give input there may help in some way
either way, wishing you goodluck if you decided to go for it!
hah as Seanie280672 says to it might take alot of tries, its just keep going eventually it should succeed
Thanksks for the information, so it will not brick or will there be very little chance of bricking?
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Ir1shWall3 said:
Thanksks for the information, so it will not brick or will there be very little chance of bricking?
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just remember s-off actually means security off and opens up the nand to full write, its no longer protected.
therefore if you try to flash something that's not for your particular device, it will no longer fail with an error, it will flash and brick your device, s-off itself doesn't brick, the user bricks by flashing the wrong things, so make sure you know what you are doing before you go s-off, if you don't really need it, or don't know what you are doing then don't bother, there's so many users on here that don't actually know how to even identify their correct RUU for instance, and that's simple stuff, but downloading the wrong one and flashing parts of it that don't belong to your phone = a brick, but again, that's the user, not s-off.
on the other hand however, s-off can help you out a lot, take a look at the below thread, he flashed the wrong software whilst s-on and has knackered his phone up, if he was s-off then it would be easily fixable with a simple downgrade of HBOOT, but because he's s-on he now has a brick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/help-active-cmdline-overflow-1025-bytes-t2841484
S-off is complete control of your phone. Which is the dangerous part. The process to s-off is simple and will not brick you. Just be sure to remember your model ID (like mine is M7_wlv) because all ruu files will state what model number it is and for what firmware.
The reason to want s-off? Search your specific device's ruu files and see if there is one for your version or high that is officially signed by HTC. If there is none, you will want s-off to downgrade or flash the unsigned ruu. As S-on, you cannot downgrade firmware or flash unsigned ruus
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Guys I have an international HTC one with latest ota update and h -boot(1.57.0). If I decide to leave it s-on will I be able to change os from sense to cm. I'm worried that my phone might get a kernel problem since I always had to flash the boot img to get another Rom working...just want to know if I'll be able to flash all Rome below or above my current firmware?
yasir4abbas said:
Guys I have an international HTC one with latest ota update and h -boot(1.57.0). If I decide to leave it s-on will I be able to change os from sense to cm. I'm worried that my phone might get a kernel problem since I always had to flash the boot img to get another Rom working...just want to know if I'll be able to flash all Rome below or above my current firmware?
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you can flash any custom rom as long as its for your phone, even if your s-on, you just have to be HTC Dev unlocked, just make sure its for your phone and read the OP and instructions, the guy who bricked his recently flashed CM11 designed for a completely different phone and the kernel messed one of his partitions up, he didn't read the details and instructions, it couldn't be fixed because he wasn't s-off, the fix only works if your on HBOOT 1.44 and you cant downgrade that without s-off.
yasir4abbas said:
Guys I have an international HTC one with latest ota update and h -boot(1.57.0). If I decide to leave it s-on will I be able to change os from sense to cm. I'm worried that my phone might get a kernel problem since I always had to flash the boot img to get another Rom working...just want to know if I'll be able to flash all Rome below or above my current firmware?
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Yeah, as long as the software is for your device it will be perfect, but you'll need to know the actual model number of your device, mine is m7_ul, but yours might be just m7, so be weary of what yours is, the best way of finding this out is going into the bootloader and looking at the first characters on the first line, i'm good at all this stuff, its that im just weary of making my device an expensive piece of metal and glass, if you need help, you can always send me a message
Ir1shWall3 said:
Yeah, as long as the software is for your device it will be perfect, but you'll need to know the actual model number of your device, mine is m7_ul, but yours might be just m7, so be weary of what yours is, the best way of finding this out is going into the bootloader and looking at the first characters on the first line, i'm good at all this stuff, its that im just weary of making my device an expensive piece of metal and glass, if you need help, you can always send me a message
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that's not completely true, a custom rom built for M7_UL will work just fine on the M7_U, they are the same device, just one has LTE and the other doesn't, just means those parts of the rom wont be installed.
the only rom's you cant use are HTC ONE M7 custom rom';s built for Spirint and Verizon devices.
Seanie280672 said:
that's not completely true, a custom rom built for M7_UL will work just fine on the M7_U, they are the same device, just one has LTE and the other doesn't, just means those parts of the rom wont be installed.
the only rom's you cant use are HTC ONE M7 custom rom';s built for Spirint and Verizon devices.
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Ah right! I guess the ul has 4G? You learn something new everyday!
I picked up a used HTC One M7 yesterday, locked to T-Mobile, thinking I could do what I usually do, buy an unlock code for $4 on eBay and use the phone.
Problem is, when I tried to get the unlock code, sellers told me they couldn't find the unlock code for the IMEI I gave them.
So I compared it to the one on the box, and it is different.
I loaded up bootloader, and saw it's unlocked, so now I know someone messed with the phone.
My problem is this:
If I want to use an official unlock code, it will only work with a stock ROM. Now, in order to change the IMEI back to the original one, I have to root (already done) and switch S-OFF. However, when I attempted to run Firewater, it told me I have to try a different kernel, because the one that's installed has an anti-firewater lock.
If I change the kernel, the ROM will no longer be stock, and then I won't be able to use the unlock code anymore, correct?
I did find another way to unlock the phone which uses a custom Config.dat file, but that's a last resort and I'm not certain if it will work or not, so I'm not really sure what I should do at this point to actually get this phone unlocked.
Originally, my plan was to unlock it and then install Cyanogenmod.
Can someone please help? I've spent hours on this today already and I'm running on empty.
Ok, I got the unlock code and tried it but it says it's invalid, so it definitely won't work with the modified IMEI (wasn't really expecting it would).
So I'm left with the challenge of reverting the IMEI back to factory. In order to do that, S-OFF needs to be set, and for that I need to run firewater, however, this is what I keep getting:
ERROR: kernel contains HTC anti-firewater patch!
****** Try again with a different kernel ******
I've tried installing the elemental kernel, and it gives me the same error.
I'm running 4.4.3, Sense 6, bootloader 1.57
Really not sure what to do next.
You won't find anything here. Changing the IMEI is illegal and not to be talked about here
Well that's lame. I'm not asking because I want to perform an illegal act, I just want to restore my phone to it's proper settings so I can actually use it.
kloan said:
Well that's lame. I'm not asking because I want to perform an illegal act, I just want to restore my phone to it's proper settings so I can actually use it.
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Well that's the thing. Changing it in any way is an illegal act. Any tool that could help has been banned from the site for years and if no original backup was made sending it in for repair is the only option I can offer.
Yeah, I suppose if I can't figure it out I'll try to find a tech in town that can help.
But I don't necessarily need specific step by step instructions on how to modify the IMEI, just some general guidance with getting S-OFF working properly, and making sure I don't mess anything up so that when I do revert back to stock I can still use the unlock code I got.
I just re-locked the bootloader and am now installing the RUU_M7_UL_JB43_SENSE50_MR_TMOUS_3.24.531.3_Radio_4A.21.3263.03_10.38m.1157.04_release_336982_signed_2(2).exe I downloaded, which I'm running in Parallels, since Mac seems to be fairly limited with some things.
After I get that installed and working, I'm going to see if I can go through the steps of unlocking the bootloader, rooting and trying firewater again.
If that doesn't work, maybe I'll try installing the latest cyanogenmod build, and trying to get firewater to set S-OFF after that.
You may have many issues if you doing all this on a mac.
Ref lashing the stock ROM has been known to help some. Not all but a few it worked on.
The IMEI change could also be a main board replacement. Then the IMEI on device would be correct and the one on the box would be wrong.
The serial number is still the same.
I re-locked the bootloader to try and install that ruu, but it got stuck and now it won't boot past hboot.
I'm running the cyanogenmod installer now because I don't know what else to do.
You could also try to S-OFF with revone, which got stuck for me at a certain point, but I went S-OFF anyway.
I tried revone because I had the same issue with firewater as you had.
Alright, I'm not going to get into all the crap I went through trying to get s-off, but suffice to say it was a colossal waste of time.
Ended up buying Sunshine and that worked like a charm when I ran it after restoring the factory T-Mobile rom.
Changing the IMEI back was ridiculously easy once I had s-off.
HOWEVER, the unlock code doesn't work! It tells me it's invalid.
Alright, so a friend came to me with an M8. It appears to be fully updated and is running 4.4.4 android. I was able to unlock the bootloader, and I have TWRP installed. However, every time I flash Superuser.zip, it says it works but does nothing. So, since I see lots of roms, I guess its possible to have root, but how to I obtain it? Been working on this for an hour and a half and cannot find a logical way that works.
First off to help @BD619 this thread needs to be posted in the Q&A section which is set there to prevent this post. Secondly, s-on or s-off? Did you try installing a rom with Root preinstalled? Did you try root checker from play store to verify root was installed?
Sorry!
Just mis posted. My bad.
S-On. Cannot seem to get S-Off either. Mainly just trying to sim unlock it and what I have found says that requires s-off which requires root. Lost. Not at all like my old S3 or EVO 4G. LOL! Those rooted no issue.
scothern99 said:
Sorry!
Just mis posted. My bad.
S-On. Cannot seem to get S-Off either. Mainly just trying to sim unlock it and what I have found says that requires s-off which requires root. Lost. Not at all like my old S3 or EVO 4G. LOL! Those rooted no issue.
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Sunshine s off is the best bet to s-off. Download their app, and from what it sounds, you are pretty close to stock anyways! You will most definately need to do more research on the sim unlock, thats a subject i never mess with. Good luck!!!
Well I am doing this for a friend and I am not spending any money. If anyone knows of at least a root, that gets me further.
Guys, I'm at my wits end
I decided to convert my M7 to the Google Play Edition, and got as far as unlocking the boot loader, installing TWRP, and rooting.
Unfortunately, that's where the fun ended, because the next step is S-Off, and I have the 1.57 version which prevents me from doing that.
I know I can use sunshine, but it's too much to spend on this old phone.
It seems that I can still flash a GPE Rom without S-Off, but I've been reading about this for two days, and it's a steep learning curve and I am overloaded with jargon.
I'm terrified that if I follow the wrong (or an outdated) guide, I'll brick my phone.
I have finally admitted to myself that it is time to ask the experts for help.
I am reasonably adept at following guides, so I'm not asking to have my hand held throughout the whole process, but it would be a real help if someone could briefly outline the process or point me to the correct tutorial for my specific situation.
I'd like to install the latest stock GPE Rom, and once again, it must be a version that I can install S-ON.
Thanks
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Guys, I'm at my wits end
I decided to convert my M7 to the Google Play Edition, and got as far as unlocking the boot loader, installing TWRP, and rooting.
Unfortunately, that's where the fun ended, because the next step is S-Off, and I have the 1.57 version which prevents me from doing that.
I know I can use sunshine, but it's too much to spend on this old phone.
It seems that I can still flash a GPE Rom without S-Off, but I've been reading about this for two days, and it's a steep learning curve and I am overloaded with jargon.
I'm terrified that if I follow the wrong (or an outdated) guide, I'll brick my phone.
I have finally admitted to myself that it is time to ask the experts for help.
I am reasonably adept at following guides, so I'm not asking to have my hand held throughout the whole process, but it would be a real help if someone could briefly outline the process or point me to the correct tutorial for my specific situation.
I'd like to install the latest stock GPE Rom, and once again, it must be a version that I can install S-ON.
Thanks
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The GPE from @santod040 will work. Make sure your on the newest firmware and just flash like any rom
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Ok thanks.
What if I'm not on the newest firmware (I don't think I am)?
Permission to monitor the thread. I too like OP, stuck with S-On hboot 1.57. Will save up $25 just in case...
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It's a difficult choice whether to spend the $25 on sunshine.
For a new phone, I would do it in a heartbeat, but for an older phone like the M7, $25 is about 25% of what the phone is worth.
I read a little about sunshine, and I understand why the devs charge for it. I just wish there was a sliding scale in cost depending on the model/age of the phone. They would probably make more money that way, because the cost/benefit decreases with the age of the phone.
If it was cheaper for older devices, they'd make a killing with ebay sellers trying to add value to their inventory.
I'd happily pay $5 or $10, but at $25, I might as well save the money towards a newer phone .