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does anyone know of any tweak, app or utility that will disable the semi-regular notification telling me that "the usb port I am using does not have sufficient current to charge the device, please close some applications." It comes on whenever I am playing music and then switch over to my gps app. I'm never really in the car long enough and I think the normal warning when the battery gets low is sufficient enough without this thing popping up ever time i open a new app.
Any help is very appreciated. Its an ATT Pure with the last feb 16th energy rom, maxmanila, and sense 2.5
Thanks!
This warning message is to alert you to the fact that you are discharging the battery at a greater rate than you are charging.
It is not to tell you the battery is low although that is what would eventually happen rather more quickly than normal.
In effect the charge circuit is being overloaded and the battery capacity is being drawn down and depending on the usage, will result in increased heat generation which is bad for the circuits and the battery cell.
I gather you are using the device in the car. You should have a USB adapter that gives 1000mAh, at least, and if it's not then the associated circuits and also the wiring, could well be showing signs of damage from heat build up.
If the USB adapter is rated at anything less than 1000mAh I would suggest obtaining a more suitable one because it's not up to the job.
As for disabling the notification it will be a registry tweak if it's possible at all.
thanks for the help.
i checked the car charger,it is rated correctly. this also happens when its plugged into the pc usb port, or a powered hub. the only time it doesnt happen is when its connected to the htc ac adapter. when i am using it in the car, it still charges to full ( albeit slower than normal) even with the tom tom ap, music player, palringo, and bing open. I was aware that the battery will drain, i just want the only warning to be the low battery warning, which i have set to 20 percent, but even in the car, it doesnt ever get that low ( i do periodically discharge it to empty for battery maintenance reasons)
dezaras6 said:
thanks for the help.
i checked the car charger,it is rated correctly. this also happens when its plugged into the pc usb port, or a powered hub. the only time it doesnt happen is when its connected to the htc ac adapter. when i am using it in the car, it still charges to full ( albeit slower than normal) even with the tom tom ap, music player, palringo, and bing open. I was aware that the battery will drain, i just want the only warning to be the low battery warning, which i have set to 20 percent, but even in the car, it doesnt ever get that low ( i do periodically discharge it to empty for battery maintenance reasons)
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If you have a car charger rated at 1000mAh and it is exhibiting what you say then there is something wrong with it!
USB ports are rated at 500mAh nominal. That is to say the manufacturer of the equipment should make sure that one port will give that output.
It sometimes doesn't work that way and you get badly designed port power feeds across however many ports that you have and if you have more than one in use then the current drops of accordingly. Then it struggles to charge your phone.
Even powered hubs can suffer this way.
When you use a wall charger that all changes and the whole thing works efficiently.
Having your phone under stress like this in your car is not a good thing and neither is periodic discharge. It's just not necessary.
Could you please give me an advice? I'm using my tom-tom charger for my td2 in the car. It says 2A for output while the td2 original wall charger says 1A. Do you reckon is there any problem? many thanks.
If the car charger at 2Ah does not have a "shut down" circuit, or the charging system in the phone does not, then you will, in short order, smoke the battery.
Ok, txs jdwilson. You mean "shut down" circuit as a way the charger prevents the energy pass to the phone when the baterry if full but allows it when more energy is needed? By the way, now i've notice that my tom-tom says input 1A! So, the charger as the "shut down" circuit or tom-tom as in it, or i will have the same problem on my tom-tom, although the charger is the tom-tom original one. Thanks
Simple widget that shows power draw from a charger in mA. There is an update button on the widget, you can set auto refresh intervals and record logs.
- download zip in third post
- extract APK to SD root
- install
- apply widget.
Thanks to rm9, pgwipeout and Orel Bob, for creating the orginal Nexus one version. link
Thanks to ytj87 for finding the file to read and TDO for show the Nexus Version of the Widget link.
Last but by no means least, thanks to grennis for moding the app to work with the vibrant.
(see next post)
Here ya go... the file is attached.. enjoy!
I think you will need to first uninstall the current one, if you have it. I could not sign the apk with the same key the author used since he did not make it available (rightly so)
I think there is actually a bug in the APK, it should be handling this situation, but it's using a slightly wrong filename. I contacted the author already.
Grennis. thanks will change title of thread from think tank.
Works for me. Thanks. Please note that for the Vibrant it looks like the current displayed in the file is 2x the actual. Few data points to support it right now, but it makes sense (e.g. USB number ~800 in file, measured around 400mA).
See here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8009138&postcount=73
Showing 854mA from my PC. 1022mA from the wall & 1050mA from my truck (generic BB charger).
So, 427mA, 511mA & 525mA respectively?
-bZj
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Showing 854mA from my PC. 1022mA from the wall & 1050mA from my truck (generic BB charger).
So, 427mA, 511mA & 525mA respectively?
-bZj
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Here are some real numbers (the 2X is close, but not quite)
Batt_chg_current: 1102
Measured: 600ma
Batt_chg_current: 814
Measured: 450ma
1.8X actual current equals Batt_chg_current is more like it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8006129&postcount=6
so it is half of what the widget actually shows just to clarify.
Yes, but it is not the widget's fault.that is the actual value stored by samsung. Other phones may use this value too and display it correctly or samsung may fix it later.
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so it is half of what the widget actually shows just to clarify.
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It depends how accurate you want to be. Actual measurements show more then half by a decent amount.
So let me get this straight. My 1a charger which the widget reports as 1100 is putting out 1/2 of it's rated ability. The 1a charger in my car that is being reported by the widget at 860 is wrong as well? I have tested two other chargers and the widget is reporting the charger's rated output +/- 100mAh. So are all my chargers rated output all wrong?
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So let me get this straight. My 1a charger which the widget reports as 1100 is putting out 1/2 of it's rated ability. The 1a charger in my car that is being reported by the widget at 860 is wrong as well? I have tested two other chargers and the widget is reporting the charger's rated output +/- 100mAh. So are all my chargers rated output all wrong?
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Nope. 2 things determine how much current a phone uses.
1) The maximum rated output current of the charger. If the phone pulls more, then the charger will only output to the max rated current.
2) The phone will only pull what it is programmed to. There is typically a built in regulator circuit (could be in SW, HW, or a mix). In the case of the Vibrant it looks like it is around ~600mA which is based on the measurements folks have taken with 1A chargers. There is a reason why Samsung provides a 700mA charger for the Vibrant.
This all assumes that Samsung hasn't messed up with the batt_chg_current file value. The only sure way to measure what the phone is pulling is to get a proven >1.2A charger and hang a digital multi-meter in series and measure the current.
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Nope. 2 things determine how much current a phone uses.
1) The maximum rated output current of the charger. If the phone pulls more, then the charger will only output to the max rated current.
2) The phone will only pull what it is programmed to. There is typically a built in regulator circuit (could be in SW, HW, or a mix). In the case of the Vibrant it looks like it is around ~600mA which is based on the measurements folks have taken with 1A chargers. There is a reason why Samsung provides a 700mA charger for the Vibrant.
This all assumes that Samsung hasn't messed up with the batt_chg_current file value. The only sure way to measure what the phone is pulling is to get a proven >1.2A charger and hang a digital multi-meter in series and measure the current.
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Additionally, charging a battery without destroying it, or causing degradation is a science too. You can't just dump as much current as you want into a battery - you have to take into account heat and internal resistance of the battery. Samsung is using the phone's circuitry as the smart part of the battery charger, and they have imposed some sort of upper limit on current. Hot batteries charge slower (if using a smart charger), so it doesn't matter about the amperage of a charger if the battery is hot. If you are doing GPS, Maps, BT and other things in your car, your battery will get hot and charging (even a wall charger) may not keep up with discharge.
The widget is reporting a number in a file - it is not reporting mA - we know this for 2 reasons:
1. someone has measured actual current with Ammeter and posted it along with file values
2. a charger can't put out more current then it is rated for (well maybe one could but not all)
There is still value in buying a 1A charger as most other car chargers just put out the USB amount of 0.5A
I've been doing some reading on this and can't seem to find the proc in sys for current_now...which shows battery drain in mah or micro amps (which ever it reads). That's how the Nexus version of Current Widget shows charge, draw, or a net gain. I'm assuming this is because of the Vibrant Kernel?
I'm trying to take the charge and deduct the current draw to see what my net gain or loss is charging (or discharging). I have gps, bluetooth, display and media going all the time while driving.
If I can't figure it out I'm going to take an AC/DC converter, plug that into the cigarette lighter and just directly wire it to the battery *poof*.
weird
Hello
First of all, im sorry if this is not the right thread - please correct me if im in the wrong place?
This is my first post on XDA.
I must say I love this forum, since I just got my first android, HTC legend.
I have no problems with the batterylife on this phone, but it seems like "somthing" is wrong!!??
I have tried the currentwidget and have logged usage (1 minut interval) for a couple og hours. I have logged both mah and apps running. Most of the times it says that im using 90-100 mah when the phone is on standby. It has been down to 12 mah only a few times.
Due to this, im now charging via usb at work, and this is where my problem is. The phone is NOT charge... well i guess its charging, because the orange led is on, the icon is flashing green etc. BUT it keeps saying 64% and it is not going up, it is sometimes going down to 63% even in standby.
To find out if its maybe a faulty usb cable i need to see how much current is going in to my phone when charging, but i cant seem to figure it out, even though all of you say that the currentwidget shows use of current or input from charger - do you know how to do this?
If anybody knows, please help me.
Thanks in advance
Glenn
glennfilbert said:
Due to this, im now charging via usb at work, and this is where my problem is. The phone is NOT charge... well i guess its charging, because the orange led is on, the icon is flashing green etc. BUT it keeps saying 64% and it is not going up, it is sometimes going down to 63% even in standby.
To find out if its maybe a faulty usb cable i need to see how much current is going in to my phone when charging, but i cant seem to figure it out, even though all of you say that the currentwidget shows use of current or input from charger - do you know how to do this?
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Kinda the wrong thread and the right thread at the same time. The problem is likely due to the USB port on the computer you're charging from. Have you tried charging on a different USB port? Also, if you load the widget while charging, what value is it reporting?
Some USB ports are unpowered, which means they really won't charge anything and some devices won't work on them. Others, for whatever reason, provide only a small amount of power, which may be just enough to keep up with your phone's battery usage but not to actually charge it.
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Kinda the wrong thread and the right thread at the same time. The problem is likely due to the USB port on the computer you're charging from. Have you tried charging on a different USB port? Also, if you load the widget while charging, what value is it reporting?
Some USB ports are unpowered, which means they really won't charge anything and some devices won't work on them. Others, for whatever reason, provide only a small amount of power, which may be just enough to keep up with your phone's battery usage but not to actually charge it.
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Also possible that it is the cable. Are you using the stock Samsung cable and charger? That combo should get you ~1100 in the widget. If your using adapters or extension cords take them off.
Best way to check for a faulty cable is set the widget to update every second and wiggle around. If you see the current value jumping around a lot (e.g. from 100 to 800/1100) then it is the cable. The cable can have trouble near the micro USB plug or the actual cable itself.
On the USB port make sure that you have the Samsung drivers installed. They are available in the DEV area.
Finally it could be your chargers. I had some really bad/cheap ones that did around 400. I've also had a car charger that started at 1100 and then drop within seconds to <200.
Has anyone passed the information back to the original app developer? I've gotten 3 app updates for the original app since the OP first posted this modified widget. The original app developer is open on supporting other phones.
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Has anyone passed the information back to the original app developer? I've gotten 3 app updates for the original app since the OP first posted this modified widget. The original app developer is open on supporting other phones.
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Originally Posted by rm9 View Post
good enough for me.
Just wanted to know it's useful.
I'll add it to the next version.
SF>Thank you. Looking forward to it. I'll let the Vibrant folks know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8379294&postcount=205
Working to add Vibrant support to the official current widget from rm9 so we can download it from the market. Could you please provide feedback on what to display (raw value vs divided by ~2) in this post:
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796789
Background
Hi all, I, for a very short period of time was suffering from the problem of my phone DISCHARGING while it was charging. This made no logical sense to me until I did some research, which I will detail below.
How USB Power works (Roughly)
Firstly let's discuss USB power provisioning. Strictly speaking, the specifications say that any given USB port should provide a maximum of 500mA (or 0.5A) at 5 volts. *Don't shoot me electronics guys, I'm simplifying for ease of explanations sake*. Imagine that ampage as the actual force of the charger, how quickly it can ram power into your phone. Like the rate of flow on a pipe.
The beginning of the problem
This was all fine and dandy when all USB was really used for was Keyboards, Mice, Memory, etc, low current draw devices. Something else I should mention here is that the Ampage that a port CAN provide is not the Ampage it DOES provide - the device draws a certain Ampage and if the USB controller agrees it outputs said Ampage. Later, when USB was beginning to be used for more power hungry applications, ie External hard drives, these required more power than the port could (In theory) provide. However, most more modern motherboards/USB controllers were more than capable of supplying plenty more Ampage if it was requested. This was breaking the specification but not in any massively dangerous way so as such nothing bad happens.
This is where we get to the actual issue people are experiencing here. The Nexus 4 is a standards compliant device in the respect that it seems to only draw 500mA from any USB port no matter what it's potential, unless it's an AC Wall wart. If you're experiencing problems with wakelocks (see XDA) and other things, this causes your phone to draw more than 500mA which means your phone actually discharges while it's charging! Terrible!
This is quite easy to get around, but again I'm going into detail so let's explain how the phone tells the difference between a dumb wall wart and a USB controller. Easily! The USB controller obviously makes use of the data pins found within the USB cable, whereas a wallwart just (almost always) shorts them out. The Nexus 4 can detect this short, and as such draw more power *While still in quotation marks staying in spec*.
The root problem is not with how the N4 is charging, it's with the wakelock you're experiencing which is causing the phone to draw so much power while the screen is off. While the screen is off and the phone is in Deepsleep (A CPU state where it uses very little power) - it should draw no more than 50mA leaving 450mA for charging the battery, but you guys are probably experiencing a wakelock of some sort.
Solutions to the problem or How to break a specification for the good of mankind
The simple solution is to install this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rootuninstaller.batrsaver
This forces the device into a Deep sleep when the screen goes off by killing applications and turning off all internal chipsets that have wakelock capability, most commonly networking on the Nexus 4. This will allow your phone to charge (slowly) off USB without an issue. Another common wakelock is when the device is picked up by your desktop as a media device. The USB controller inside the Nexus 4 forces a wakelock which keeps it from charging. Stupid design, I know.
* A more hackish solution is to install Francos kernel, buy his app, and tick the Fast charging option in the kernel settings dialog. This will force the phone to think that everything is an AC adaptor and will force the phone to draw as much current as it can from the USB port (which on most modern motherboards is fine, and results in extremely quick charging).
* An even simpler solution than all this is to just use a 'USB Charging cable' - this is simply a cable that does not have the Data pins, and as such does exactly the same as what enabling USB fast charge above does. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-USB...487076?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item51a465d124
If you live near a Poundland store here in the UK they sell a 4 in one USB cable type thing which turns 1 USB port into Ipod sync connector, Nokia connector, MicroUSB and MiniUSB, and this doesn't have the data pins and as such is excellent.
One final point, an excellent app for monitoring whether your device is actually charging or not and how quickly is Current widget: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget&hl=en
This widget will tell you how much Ampage is going into or leaving your battery. If the battery icon is green, then it's discharging, if it's black/white then it's charging. The bigger the number, the faster the discharge/charge. This is an extremely easy way to test speed of chargers too.
Recommendations
Another solution, just use an AC Wall wart - they're cheap as hell and the one supplied with the Nexus 4 is an extremely fast charging one. Shame I've gone and lost mine.
A way to roughly monitor charging current draw
I'd also recommend you install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget&hl=en and monitor, if the battery is green while charging it's discharging and you need a more powerful charger/to figure out what's causing your phone to use so much power.
General good values in Current Widget
I generally saw a max draw of about 750mA for charging (not including draw for powering the device, the Nexus 4 can draw more power to charge and power the device) on my old Rev10 first generation Nexus 4. On my new Rev12 board I'm noticing this increase to about 850mA.
Are higher amperage chargers any benefit to anyone?
Yes and no. You will not notice faster charging unless you use your device while charging. Your nexus will draw as much power as it needs to power the phone while charging at the fastest rate. For example on the stock 1.2a charger
1200mA | 800mA goes to charging 400mA goes to powering the phone idling
Let's say you start a stability test. Your phone will obviously be using a lot more power so this will happen
1200mA | -600mA goes to charging and 1800mA goes to powering the phone stability testing
That minus value above may look strange! Let me explain. If the phone needs more power than the charger can supply, it will draw from the battery. That's the minus number.
If you have a higher ampage charger like for example a 2.5a charger
2500mA | 800mA goes to charging 400mA goes to powering the device
Stability testing
2500mA | 700mA goes to charging 1800mA goes to powering the device
Can you see the difference?
DISCLAIMER: I am not an electronics engineer nor do I claim to be, I am simply a hobbyist and this is what I've found to be the case. Please correct me if I've made any mistakes, I want to learn.
Thanks!
Thanks so much for this post. It's very helpful.
kn100 said:
Another common wakelock is when the device is picked up by your desktop as a media device. The USB controller inside the Nexus 4 forces a wakelock which keeps it from charging. Stupid design, I know.
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This isn't true for everyone then as mine connects and charges just fine off of my laptop and desktop when connected as a media device. In fact its on my laptop right now charging, gone from 68% to 81% in about 30 minutes and it shows connected as a portable media player.
Great info! Thanks for writing this!
In certain use cases the Nexus4 discharges faster than it charges and this is a very useful guide.
I use my phone for navigation in my car and having the GPS on and the screen at high brightness
drains the battery faster than the 0.5A car chargers can supply. Car chargers rated for 2.0A work well.
I haven't tried a 'USB charging cable' with the data pins shorted, it may work as well.
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Great info! Thanks for writing this!
In certain use cases the Nexus4 discharges faster than it charges and this is a very useful guide.
I use my phone for navigation in my car and having the GPS on and the screen at high brightness
drains the battery faster than the 0.5A car chargers can supply. Car chargers rated for 2.0A work well.
I haven't tried a 'USB charging cable' with the data pins shorted, it may work as well.
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was over in Nexus 7 forums and the 4.2.x kernel should have solved the problem at least for having to use shorted cables. have to wait and see if 4.2.2 brings any more changes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984838
Section 6 in this link is about power supplied through USB
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
I can't tell if we have an updated kernel allowing faster usb charging as I'm limited by the power output of the usb port in my laptop. The output (5V at 500mA max) is controlled by the laptop (USB Standards) and it doesn't matter what the phone or cable is capable of as that's the max it will give out and that's about what I'm charging at. If I had a dedicated charging port in my laptop then it would be different and I could see if its able to draw more power. I have a 1.0 amp port in my car and it does charge at the higher amperage, I would assume it would do the same thing if I had a 2 amp usb port in the car. So I think the stock kernel has the fast usb charge built in it just depends upon if you have a usb port capable of providing a faster charger, it has nothing to do with the cable as I'm using a standard unmodified micro usb cable and its able to draw the max a usb device is able to put out.
thanks
thanks for a great detailed post!!!
I have the same trouble with my N4 when I was charging while using my phone...
I find it very slow... I guess I've been spoiled by my previous iPhone (which charges fairly fast)....
i might be stating the obvious but I find the phone charged "a lot" faster when it's OFF
if you are running low with your battery and need a quick 10 min charge, just do yourself a favour by turning off your phone...
the difference is quite significant!
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This isn't true for everyone then as mine connects and charges just fine off of my laptop and desktop when connected as a media device. In fact its on my laptop right now charging, gone from 68% to 81% in about 30 minutes and it shows connected as a portable media player.
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Yup, me too. It only discharges while charging when I am playing like NFS most wanted.
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The issue with cables is with the LG usb wall charger as the one supplied isn't capable of getting the 5 volts at 1.2 amps that the charger is rated at, mine is getting around 300 - 400 mA. The micro usb cable I have in my car and use with my laptop (for charging and data transfer) is able to handle the higher amperage, it gets around 1 amp with the LG plug. There are no specs on these cables so I can't list a definitive difference and I would assume that the cable mod in the OP might help with the LG cable. It also might just be simpler to only buy those cables capable of handling higher amperage as obviously they are out there from my experience.
The cable I'm using is an RCA coiled charging/syncing cable model AH732CBR (has data pins). The maximum I'm getting from this is about 870 mA regardless of the amperage of the usb port, I've tried a 1.0, 1.2 and 2.1 and they are all around 870 mA on current widget. I would suppose if I could find a strictly charging cable I could get higher (link to ebay in OP is outdated) but this is still 2x that which I'm getting from the LG cable supplied with the phone which only puts out 300-400 mA. Our phone also has Qualcomm's quick charge which is supposed to improve battery charging times by 40%.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/02/1...allows-your-device-to-charge-up-to-40-faster/
How do you measure how much mA the device draw from the charger?
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How do you measure how much mA the device draw from the charger?
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current widget, link is in the OP
kzoodroid said:
The cable I'm using is an RCA coiled charging/syncing cable model AH732CBR (has data pins). The maximum I'm getting from this is about 870 mA regardless of the amperage of the usb port, I've tried a 1.0, 1.2 and 2.1 and they are all around 870 mA on current widget. I would suppose if I could find a strictly charging cable I could get higher (link to ebay in OP is outdated) but this is still 2x that which I'm getting from the LG cable supplied with the phone which only puts out 300-400 mA. Our phone also has Qualcomm's quick charge which is supposed to improve battery charging times by 40%.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/02/1...allows-your-device-to-charge-up-to-40-faster/
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Bit of a late reply but please bear in mind the Nexus will NOT draw anything more than about 800mAh from the wall for charging alone. That is the absolute max and is a hardware limit - If the cable is transmitting that and it's showing in current widget you've got a good setup. See the added section in OP for more info on higher amperage chargers.
First off, I tried searching and just got results from all over, so hope this hasn't been asked.
With the addition to android the DayDreaming settings, I love it. When I'm at work, or at my desk, it's just nice to have that clock there for me as 99% of the time I don't see the clock on the computer. Now I've discovered, that my phone can use my PC's connection, yay!
How does this affect my battery? The screen is always on, the battery is always charging. Seems to me that the battery on the device would not like this, but that is not my area of knowledge.
Thanks
P.S. anyone got a really good clock / calendar daydreaming app?
I wouldn't want my screen to stay on for that long, to be honest with you, regardless of whether or not the device is connected to a power source. I remember that with Galaxy devices, the screen colors end up fading and there have even been cases of sort of like screen burns for staying on too long. lol
It shouldn't have a burn in issue, it's always moving.
My current daydream app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.mpelant.deskclock&hl=en
Loses battery %
I have tried to use the Daydream on my Nexus 4 and I don't like it. It will not charge efficiently, in fact I maybe losing %! I even have my N4 plugged into the N10 battery pack and I DO NOT get a quicker charge to the battery while daydream is on. I will update this in 2 hours and give real results. I will have daydream on while charging with my N10 battery pack directly plugged into wall outlet. My phone as of 12:50pm EST is at 73% with only the Clock on as a daydream. Update at 3PM with results.
Update: 2 hours of charging and only 9% increase of battery life. So using daydream is detrimental to a fast charge. Remember I was also using a higher output charger (Nexus 10 stock charger) than the stock charger that came with the Nexus 4.
I haven't fully tested the charge %:hours but when I use it, I have the brightness set super low and that seems to help it get an ok charge. It's def not super fast but not really worried about charge time.
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i hate this daydreaming app. I have a HTC M8. Overheating my phone, my battery barely gets charged (1% every 15 minutes). Really sucks!! I dont recommend this piece of crAPP to anyone
My galaxy s4 has a daydream option in the settings, it doesn't seem to affect charging and it hasn't burned anything into my screen, I just recommend using that. I think it's in the display options.
OK so I am running Trickdroid 9.1 with ElementalX kernel set to fast charging. I also have a specialist fast charging USB cable (no data). The car charger supposedly outputs 2.1 amps (at least one each port and I am only using one).
So basically before I found out about AC charge mode my battery was draining out when running NavFree app. Even when I changed to fast charge mode with an older (thin) USB data cable it was losing charge when running NavFree. Which is why I got the fast charge cable.
Now it seems to retain it's charge when running the app. At least it does not drain. However it never seems to charge either. It was on 78% charge and stayed like that throughout a 10 mile test journey. Using Battery Monitor Widget it shows that it never rose much over 600mA usage. But mostly used a lot less and sometimes dawdled around the trickle charge values.
Is there a reason why it won't charge up the battery whilst running an app like NavFree at the same time?
Start here:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one/312162-frustrated-charging-htc-one-car.html
I will offer that if you don't have power saver on that ROM you're probably SOL.
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bbinder said:
Start here:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one/312162-frustrated-charging-htc-one-car.html
I will offer that if you don't have power saver on that ROM you're probably SOL.
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Yes power saver mode is on. thanks for the link I am reading through it. So far it seems the HTC sucks on car chargers (but doesn't draw enough or if it does causes battery overheating issues if in a warm climate or have heating on).
The best results for me have been making sure you are using AC charging and have power save mode on. If I use that method my phone charges but it's a slow process.
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deadman3000 said:
Now it seems to retain it's charge when running the app. At least it does not drain. However it never seems to charge either. It was on 78% charge and stayed like that throughout a 10 mile test journey. Using Battery Monitor Widget it shows that it never rose much over 600mA usage. But mostly used a lot less and sometimes dawdled around the trickle charge values.
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It will draw *up to* 1A, but only when mostly discharged. Try it with, say, 20% charge, you should get higher current.
Once the battery hits around 4.3V, charging changes from constant current to constant voltage; the current drops.
BenPope said:
It will draw *up to* 1A, but only when mostly discharged. Try it with, say, 20% charge, you should get higher current.
Once the battery hits around 4.3V, charging changes from constant current to constant voltage; the current drops.
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Which is a terrible algorithm when you want your phone charged to max when driving using satnav apps. I want my phone to get a full charge on a journey. Not be down to 78% or lower at the end of it. I may need the phone for the next couple of days without being able to charge it.