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Some Active Stylus work on the 7

I have been looking through all the posts from people with the rubber tip stylus no one has mentioned that active stylus work most say they wont...
However my old stylus from my Xyboard works just fine on my Nexus 7.
I only did a little digging around and am just chalking it up to luck that some type of active stylist works on the nexus. I remember reading up on my Xyboard that the stylus only functioned on that device since it didn't work on the 8.1 xyboard or any other touch screens.
I did try to use pressure setting inside of Photoshop with no luck, so pressure doesn't function. I also tried LectureNotes with different stylist only options. So I'm thinking its working just as my old Xyboard as a touch input only. Still happier with a hard tip stylus than a rubber tip one.

is this the stylus?
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-XYBO...1&sr=8-1?tag=noref-20&keywords=xyboard+stylus
i like the look of it

Yes that is the one that I have been using on my nexus. Ordering another today for my girl friends tablet.
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Does the active stylus work any better than a capacitive one? What are the benefits. Price is kinda steep, I had an Adonit Jot and didn't really like it. Anything wider than a standard pen or pencil feels too big and bulky for me. The elago stylus looks cool.
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So what is the benefit of using this over as opposed to a regular one?
Ordered 1 anyway since it looks cool, hope it is worth it

The Xyboard stylus is just a battery operated capacitive stylus. It triggers touch events on capacitive screens with a hard small tip through the use of the battery. It isn't any more accurate than your finger or a non-battery (soft/broad tipped) stylus.

Before someone asks, no, a Wacom stylus does not work, including that included in the Galaxy Note.

Got the HTC St c400 and it doesn't work at all.
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Any fine tip stylus'?

I visited my local dollar store earlier and found a cheap stylus for 2 dollars. It works well but the only thing I don't like is the rounded tip. I'm looking for more of a shape of a pen with a pointy tip. Preferably really cheap for a dollar or so from ebay or any online retailer that ships to Canada. Any ideas?

C2Q said:
I visited my local dollar store earlier and found a cheap stylus for 2 dollars. It works well but the only thing I don't like is the rounded tip. I'm looking for more of a shape of a pen with a pointy tip. Preferably really cheap for a dollar or so from ebay or any online retailer that ships to Canada. Any ideas?
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Bumping for interest. I've had bad luck with rounded ones on my old TF101. I've love something with a fine point.

Well I found this:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Black-Plasti...ccessories&hash=item35be88a28b#ht_1519wt_1392
Not sure how well it will work though. I don't really need 3 but its only 3 dollars so...

C2Q said:
I visited my local dollar store earlier and found a cheap stylus for 2 dollars. It works well but the only thing I don't like is the rounded tip. I'm looking for more of a shape of a pen with a pointy tip. Preferably really cheap for a dollar or so from ebay or any online retailer that ships to Canada. Any ideas?
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Read this: http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/10/2925937/best-stylus-ipad-review

Hmm, how come there is a lack of fine point stylus'? Is it something to do with the screen and only rounded edges working or something?

C2Q said:
Hmm, how come there is a lack of fine point stylus'? Is it something to do with the screen and only rounded edges working or something?
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It's not a real graphics tablet (the kind photoshop users have). Capacitive screens just aren't that accurate. You have the same issue w/ the ipad screen.
If you want something w/ the accuracy of the Galaxy Note, get the Note. It uses Wacom technology which actually is accurate...

how about jot? http://adonit.net/product/jot/ are you talking about this one?

Read my link. There is a limited resolution with capacitive devices...
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nerdsisme said:
how about jot? http://adonit.net/product/jot/ are you talking about this one?
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Saw that, but meh the fragile disc and the price is a turn off. I guess I'll just stick with my cheapo stylus for the time being. It does my sort of writing well enough anyway.

http://handstylus.com/
Coming soon, a "finer" point stylus for cap. touch screens.

The problem is the screen tech. Because of the way they work, it requires a larger point of contact. They aren't real precise for writing or drawing. This is all cap screens including iDevices.
The Note and Flyer uses a combination of screen techs and pen tech. The pen has sensors that detects pressures and communicates to the device (I guess). That or there is there an additional screen layer that has pressure sensors.
Old school resistive screens are much more accurate.
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For any size tip to work on a capacitive touch-screen it has to be compressed until the tip forms a circle on the screen's surface that measures approximately 4mm in diameter," designer Steve King

I have the Adjonit Pro and love it. Works great even with the screen protector and am getting better at Draw Something with it LOL

I've been on the search for a fine tipped stylus & haven't found anything that works consistently. I just use the cheap-o stylus from Amazon.
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Compusmurf said:
http://handstylus.com/
Coming soon, a "finer" point stylus for cap. touch screens.
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Niccceeee

Revue of the Plai Estylo Stylus
Report on the Plai Estylo stylus -
If you're not familiar with it, see this: http://plai.tv/blog/estylo-11
and this video of how precisely the tip can be used: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhKb32LWL28
I got the Estylo in this morning's mail. I like it a lot. Tested it with Autosketch Sketchbook Pro, Fresco Pro, and Lecture Notes. It produces slightly cleaner (slightly more legible) handwriting strokes than the Kuel H12 stylus. I also notice that it both glides more smoothly, but with a very firm feel (the tip material has almost no give to it in comparison with a rubber or silicone tip.) To be fair, you still can't use a tiny, tiny point to draw with - you have to angle the tip to get more of it in contact with the surface. BUT, you can easily see where you are drawing/writing.
Now if there was a clip on it, so I could keep in in my pocket without fear of losing it, it would be ideal. BTW, it's extremely light weight (4 grams.)

So, I am a long time Galaxy Note user. Someone who has become dependent on the S Pen. I have also become dependent on a removable battery...
I use my S Pen all day practically every day for work and I work in a low signal area. The Galaxy Note was definitely the phone for me until Samsung decided to pull the plug on removable batteries.
I have been very interested in LG's new G5 (hey, it has a removable battery!) but I am having a lot of trouble finding a fine point stylus, similar to the S Pen, that will work with the G5's capacitive screen.
Looking through XDA forums I have come across not only this thread but another...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/how-to-make-fine-stylus-t2933326
I have not yet tried this but have high hopes.

There is no SPen replacement. I have a Note 5. The Note Line has a special pen digitizer layer that allows the use of a fine stylus.
There are several fine point regular pens, but none really compare.
I've never used one of these but it's probably your best bet.
http://www.adonit.net/jot/pro/
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What stylus to buy?

I am waiting for my device but I want to buy samo accessories for it. This is my first capacitive tablet and I want to buy a good stylus for it. My wife will use it for drawing - so it will be nice if it is suitable for this too.

mihail.mitsov said:
I am waiting for my device but I want to buy samo accessories for it. This is my first capacitive tablet and I want to buy a good stylus for it. My wife will use it for drawing - so it will be nice if it is suitable for this too.
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/10/2925937/best-stylus-ipad-review
Personally, I got Andonit Jot Pro because I wanted to be able to write as thin as possible (when needed). Especially, at one point owning Note 10.1, I missed the S-pen experience. So I got Andonit Jot Pro based on the review for my transformer infinity, which i also tried to use on my wife's ipad 2.
Though I can tell you one thing. Capative screen stylus is nothing but a finger replacement. So accuracy is nowhere that of inductive technology e.g. Galaxy Note 10.1, Wacom Pen devices. Furthermore, there is no palm rejection i.e. as soon as your palm touches screen it recognizes the palm.
So to be honest, even cheap stylus would still do the job. if I could return my andonit stylus, I would have and just kept using my 3 for $5 stylus over $20+ Andoit Jot pro.

So, as far as the pressure sensitivity goes, the adonit joint pro does work? It's the lack of palm rejection that's bothersome?
EDIT: My bad, it's a capacitive stylus. There are pressure-sensitive styluses for Android, but I don't think they are supported in apps which makes them pretty useless.

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My bad, it's a capacitive stylus. There are pressure-sensitive styluses for Android, but I don't think they are supported in apps which makes them pretty useless.
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You are absolutely right. I believe at least on iPad people tried couple different things such as using bluetooth signal, or even using ultrasound to make pressure sensitivity. As you have figured those pen are usually very expensive. Last I recall are almost close to $100. Even the pressure sensitivity works (which i am still skeptical) but even then two major issues:
1. application support - just as you said. Each app has to support it individually and not many app does that. Simply because most android device don't have the capability. So why would devs implement such.
2. Lack of accuracy/palm rejection - Without these simply your writing experience won't be a real i.e. yes you can right here and there for fun, but for practical use such as taking note, you will quickly learn that actually doing such on real paper would be faster.

Careful with the Jot Pro. I own one, and it scratched the living daylights out of my Nexus 7 and Xoom. While it's by far the most precise (since it let's you look at the precise location where you will write), it's not worth it to me if it means scratching the screen. I also refuse to use a screen protector because of how they make my fingers feel when swiping across the screen.
As a decent replacement, I now use the Boxwave Evertouch, which I bought on Amazon for about $10. It's nowhere near as precise as the Jot Pro, but it won't scratch my precious N10. I still use the Jot Pro on my Xoom and N7 since they're already scratched.

Cosmonaut
HoushaSen said:
You are absolutely right. I believe at least on iPad people tried couple different things such as using bluetooth signal, or even using ultrasound to make pressure sensitivity. As you have figured those pen are usually very expensive. Last I recall are almost close to $100. Even the pressure sensitivity works (which i am still skeptical) but even then two major issues:
1. application support - just as you said. Each app has to support it individually and not many app does that. Simply because most android device don't have the capability. So why would devs implement such.
2. Lack of accuracy/palm rejection - Without these simply your writing experience won't be a real i.e. yes you can right here and there for fun, but for practical use such as taking note, you will quickly learn that actually doing such on real paper would be faster.
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I used a Cosmonaut stylus for a year on an IPad 2 with the Notheshelf App. It was a great stylus and the app gave you what they called "wrist protection". Basically horizontal and perpendicular lines where you could set your palm without leaving marks, so you could write just with the stylus. (they don't have this app for android... i asked them)
Now that I am moving to a Nexus 10 (my first android device) I am looking for an App with this characteristics. Can anyone recommend one?

gacostac said:
I used a Cosmonaut stylus for a year on an IPad 2 with the Notheshelf App. It was a great stylus and the app gave you what they called "wrist protection". Basically horizontal and perpendicular lines where you could set your palm without leaving marks, so you could write just with the stylus. (they don't have this app for android... i asked them)
Now that I am moving to a Nexus 10 (my first android device) I am looking for an App with this characteristics. Can anyone recommend one?
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I think lectures notes has a "palm safe zone"

I'II have to monitor my screen for scratches from the Jot stylus. I found I was having to grip the stylus too hard because of the aluminum body of the stylus. Also, any dirt or oils on the screen greatly reduce the sensitively of the Jot stylus, even trapping dirt between the hard plastic stylus tip and screen. Therefore, those of you using the Jot may wish to consider keeping your screen really clean. A second idea that has really helped is getting a length of heat-shrink tubing from an electronics store and shrinking it around the barrel of the stylus. This has given me a much more comfortable grip.
However, I will have to keep an eye out for scratches. So far, so good.
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mihail.mitsov said:
I am waiting for my device but I want to buy samo accessories for it. This is my first capacitive tablet and I want to buy a good stylus for it. My wife will use it for drawing - so it will be nice if it is suitable for this too.
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I think Adonit jot very good. I use with Google Nexus 7, very good when writing and painting. Can you search in google, have so much shop sale it
Hope you have product like early

Maxey said:
I think lectures notes has a "palm safe zone"
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Correct, & Papyrus Beta also has palm recognition. (Pressure sure there's one more app too, maybe Antipaper.)
As for the stylus, I currently have a cheap Griffin stylus and a Wacom Bamboo stylus. Between the two, Wacom's Bamboo stylus seems to be very popular and IMO it is much more accurate than the cheapo options.
I use the Bamboo pretty much everyday to take notes in class, it's a great option if your looking for an alternative to the Adonit stylus.

I'm getting the gosmart , it has the thinnest most Accurate tip and its got a spring on the front that makes it pressure sensatibe in a way
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Saw this on appy geek this morning:
http://tabtimes.com/news/ittech-acc...new-stylus-pens-android-and-windows-8-tablets
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KestrelX said:
Saw this on appy geek this morning:
http://tabtimes.com/news/ittech-acc...new-stylus-pens-android-and-windows-8-tablets
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Only works with Galaxy Note.
http://hexus.net/ce/items/gadgets/4...now-using-mobile-devices-will-feel-different/

pogo connect
I have been doing some research on stylus out there and the Pogo Connect seams to be one of the best things out there. Its supposed to work through Bluetooth
anyone knows if it will work with our Nexus 10 and if there are Android apps that will support it? that would be great!

I'm beginning to see a few scratches on my screen from the Jot Pro. It looks like a single event as if a small grain of sand got caught between the stylus and screen. I may try some sort of screen protector.
Has anyone reported scratches from other styli?
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I send an email to the guys that manufacture the Pogo Connect, this is their answer, sorry:
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Thanks for writing in. Pogo Connect is not compatible with Android tablets. We'd love to see Pogo Connect be as universal as possible, including support for Android systems. We've talked through some compatibility ideas, but we're just not sure yet if we'll be able to make it happen.
Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions.
Best Regards,
Ashley Skinner
Ten One Design

so i am thinking of getting the jotpro stylus for my nexus 10 but after reading this thread i am a bit concerned with the scratched issue some users talked about. does it come from the stylus or because of sand or something trapped between the screen and the plastic plate? i want to use the stylus indoors for notes on my university.

Hand stylus is amazing. 4mm tip gives great accuracy. Also you can get 6 replacement tips for $10.

When I say sand, I'm not referring to beach or outdoor sand. I'm referring to tiny abrasive particles, normally too small to notice. Perhaps I should have said dirt, contaminants, or some other term. The hard plastic tip of the Jot pro requires more downwards force than other styli. I don't believe the tip itself does the scratching, but hard tiny debris pressed into the glass by the Jot pro.
Has any one tried the Jot pro with a screen protector?
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Harfainx said:
Hand stylus is amazing. 4mm tip gives great accuracy. Also you can get 6 replacement tips for $10.
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Link?
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A/Market S-Pen?

Just wondering whether anyone knows of any after market (non OEM) S Pens out there (or in development)? Im finding Im using the Note 2 almost exclusively with the S Pen and would like to try a different (high end) stylus.

acb77 said:
Just wondering whether anyone knows of any after market (non OEM) S Pens out there (or in development)? Im finding Im using the Note 2 almost exclusively with the S Pen and would like to try a different (high end) stylus.
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The wacom bamboo feel line is pretty nice looking although it's not after market since wacom is the maker of our spen.
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ac16313 said:
The wacom bamboo feel line is pretty nice looking although it's not after market since wacom is the maker of our spen.
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Thanks for replying mate. Ive done a bit of a look around the internets and there seems to be mixed opinions about whether the wacom styles work or not. Given apparently the pen and the screen is made by Wacom I should be able to find one that does. What I would really like is a high end pen which fits in the phone.

I'm looking for a decent and large Spen too.
Here's another post on the Bamboo pen. I'm waiting for more info on whether it actually works well with the Note 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2054351&highlight=bamboo+feel

scoobmd said:
I'm looking for a decent and large Spen too.
Here's another post on the Bamboo pen. I'm waiting for more info on whether it actually works well with the Note 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2054351&highlight=bamboo+feel
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That's me and it works wonderfully......and no, I won't be taking the time to make a video and uploadung it here. Sorry, but I don't have the time for that. It works great and is worth every penny IMO.
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Im looking for an aftermarket one that has a real ink pen on the end. Has anyone seen one?

I think most active wacom styluses will work, I'm using one from my 2007 era tablet pc, the button works, the eraser end works and the pressure sensitivity works perfectly. No issues with alignment either.

I know this isn't an S-pen... it's a blobby capacitive pen emulating your finger: YesPen S1-plus
but this isht is sick as fcxzk. 1)Capacitive stylus - seems about the same (effectively) aside from the mushiness of it - you can still write great on the note; 2) real ink pen; 3)usb drive and sdhc card; 4)bluetooth earpiece; 5) bluetooth speakerphone; 6)integrated out of the box with samsung speak; 7) 3.5mm headphone(s) jack for a2dp stereo; 8) standard universal non-proprietary male usb (without the shield) built in for direct charging, usb memory, and sdhc access... 9) only $50 on ebay - less than half the price of the Samsung spen with bluetooth earpiece but soooo many more features.
CANNOT WAIT FOR THE YESPEN S2 if they ever make it - hopefully with spen too.
Anyone else try this yet or find an english language manual?
I've been using it for about a month and LOVE IT!

[Q] Does anyone use a stylus pen?

I was wondering if anyone uses a stylus pen and if so why? Also, does the tip wear out to the point where the metal body is contacting the glass?
Is it used only for preventing oily markings on the screen?
Thanks for all input on this.

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I was wondering if anyone uses a stylus pen and if so why? Also, does the tip wear out to the point where the metal body is contacting the glass?
Is it used only for preventing oily markings on the screen?
Thanks for all input on this.
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I just got the HD+ so can't give a thorough critique. I'm using two different styluses I got free from different vendors on eBay. I'm not to fond of using my fingers on the HD+ screen, the glass feels weird and gets messy quick. The styluses allow me to keep the screen clean and seem to get a better response than my fingers.
I just installed the Sketchbook Pro app for tablets. I'll add more after I play some.
I should also mention that I have a Note II and use the stylus for that all the time so I'm kinda partial to using one.
Hope this was helpful.
PS: I got the green stylus when I ordered a cover for my HD+ on eBay. The cover has a holder for it, very nice. Let me know if you want the vendor info.

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I just got the HD+ so can't give a thorough critique. I'm using two different styluses I got free from different vendors on eBay. I'm not to fond of using my fingers on the HD+ screen, the glass feels weird and gets messy quick. The styluses allow me to keep the screen clean and seem to get a better response than my fingers.
I just installed the Sketchbook Pro app for tablets. I'll add more after I play some.
I should also mention that I have a Note II and use the stylus for that all the time so I'm kinda partial to using one.
Hope this was helpful.
PS: I got the green stylus when I ordered a cover for my HD+ on eBay. The cover has a holder for it, very nice. Let me know if you want the vendor info.
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Just want to say, "Thanks" for the feedback. :good:

If the tip is too soft, it does not work properly. It is convenient if you have a high quality one. Don't buy the cheap one.

sdgon said:
If the tip is too soft, it does not work properly. It is convenient if you have a high quality one. Don't buy the cheap one.
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I have one I picked up for a dollar. Works perfect even better than my finger.
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Bought the $20 Brookstone stylus from Target. Use it all the time when I'm working with Inspire on the iPad. Haven't used it so much with the Nook yet, but I've used it with my Galaxy S3 when my fingers are messy.
I think it depends on what you want to use it for.