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Hello, my phones battery life is I'd say average.
I get up in the morning after its been charging all night, and after its been unplugged for maybe a half hour, with a few texts and a minute of browsing done, the battery has gone down 5%.
Battery usage shows that display is taking up 89% of the usage!
Why is this? Is it normal? If not, how can I fix this?
Display will use most anyway. Get a darker home screen, either use low brightness or auto-brightness. not much else you can do.
Let me guess you're using CyanogenMod?
I've seen reports of my same problem, and those that had it found a solution by wiping the battery statistics, letting it die, then charging it to 100%
But no, my nexus isn't even rooted.
Strange. Before I was rooted my display would always be 1st or 2nd, along with android OS
After I rooted using Cyan, it was always 1st taking up more than 60%
Then I switched ROMS now its always 3rd or even 4th
Sorry dude.. try wiping batty stats and changing your brightness.. are you using live wallpaper? what about screen timeout.
S_Dot said:
Strange. Before I was rooted my display would always be 1st or 2nd, along with android OS
After I rooted using Cyan, it was always 1st taking up more than 60%
Then I switched ROMS now its always 3rd or even 4th
Sorry dude.. try wiping batty stats and changing your brightness.. are you using live wallpaper? what about screen timeout.
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has anyone thought that the battery usage stats has to equal 100% so if the operating system on CM is running lighter (usin the cpu less or in a more efficient way) then the display would be taking more % of battery usage making people think there is something wrong when probably there is nothing wrong. maybe the desire ports (modaco ro king) use more cpu and thats why the display is 3rd or 2nd.
izmar said:
Hello, my phones battery life is I'd say average.
I get up in the morning after its been charging all night, and after its been unplugged for maybe a half hour, with a few texts and a minute of browsing done, the battery has gone down 5%.
Battery usage shows that display is taking up 89% of the usage!
Why is this? Is it normal? If not, how can I fix this?
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This is perfectly normal. Displays are power hungry relative to the rest of the phones components.
Google maybe shouldn't have included the battery usage page as it just leads to confusion. When you use up 5% of your battery's power and then check the stats and see that the display is listed at 89% it means that of the 5% used, 89% went to powering the display. It does not mean that the screen has used 89% of your total battery at that point.
Leave the phone alone for a while and you'll see that the display percentage will go down while things such as Cell standby will go up.
lore2486 said:
has anyone thought that the battery usage stats has to equal 100% so if the operating system on CM is running lighter (usin the cpu less or in a more efficient way) then the display would be taking more % of battery usage making people think there is something wrong when probably there is nothing wrong. maybe the desire ports (modaco ro king) use more cpu and thats why the display is 3rd or 2nd.
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Nobody thinks of that
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I am on more than 9h of use still 50% battery left!
- Autobrightness on
- No taskkiller!!
- Wifi on all the time
...and using it today a lot, mails, web, twitter,....-> made a logcat this morning and eliminated my battery drainers
Agh! I want better battery life! I feel like it's dying much too quickly....
buy a bigger battery
or stop fiddling with it so much, lol
turn the brightness down. turn the sync off. turn off background data. don't use bluetooth or wifi. turn off your location.
don't use live wallpaper, use a darker screen that doesn't move.
i know on my winmo phone if i turned on bluetooth, battery would just get sucked out. i couldn't charge
it as fast as bt used it up. and that was with a fastcharge reg edit.
I believe you just got your phone, right?
It's cause you're playing with it so much.
I dont feel like I am though. I am using it probably just as much as I use any other phone I've had.
Maybe the battery just needs to be broken in.
timothydonohue said:
turn the brightness down. turn the sync off. turn off background data. don't use bluetooth or wifi. turn off your location.
don't use live wallpaper, use a darker screen that doesn't move.
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So cripple the phone basically?
lore2486 said:
has anyone thought that the battery usage stats has to equal 100% so if the operating system on CM is running lighter (usin the cpu less or in a more efficient way) then the display would be taking more % of battery usage making people think there is something wrong when probably there is nothing wrong. maybe the desire ports (modaco ro king) use more cpu and thats why the display is 3rd or 2nd.
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Nobody ever thinks of that unfortunately. I would think display using the most would mean you're using a pretty efficient device.
Yup. That if you want to keep your battery as long as it can get. Else, if you want to enjoy your phone, buy a spare battery along with the desktop charger and you will survive a day...
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I switched to enoms which gave me a little better battery life. Also downloading juice defender made a noticable difference, I use the free version at the default settings. I also switched email to hourly which is adaquate for me. I dont run bluetooth unless I am using it, same with wifi, which is what I do with all my phones. I dont otherwise change my usage, dim the screen etc. Overall I make it through the day with typically about 35% left. Based on what I see here my usage would probably fall into the light to moderate range. To be honest I havent had a smartphone recently that did much better. I pretty much figure I gotta plug in every night in the modern phone world.
S_Dot said:
Strange. Before I was rooted my display would always be 1st or 2nd, along with android OS
After I rooted using Cyan, it was always 1st taking up more than 60%
Then I switched ROMS now its always 3rd or even 4th
Sorry dude.. try wiping batty stats and changing your brightness.. are you using live wallpaper? what about screen timeout.
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As others have mentioned, the display uses the same amount of power no matter what rom you are using. So if display is 3rd or 4th, you have an absolutely crappy rom that is using battery probably 10x as fast (compared to same usage where display is 90% of the battery).
In simple terms, the higher % your battery is using, the more efficient your phone is being.*
*compared to same usage at same brightness running different software.
An addendum to juice defender. I had it on the default setting but changed schedule so that it lit up apn for 3 minutes out of fifteen instead of one, my email wasnt consitently downloading at one minute.
I noticed that you have gone to 5.0.6, how is your batt life now? I stayed away from it just because of the overrwhelming number of bad battery life posts on it and was surprised you went that way.
Has anyone tried the HTC Desire battery fix and confirms it works on the SGS?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
Some people have implied it works but I'd like to know what you think?
Yesterday i was make all from this HTC Desire thread give, except wipe battery stats because i not found this thing in clockwork recovery menu, and i can say , it work for our device too. My Galaxy S battery last pretty better-smoother:
After all, i powered on my device in midnight 00:00, morning about 8:00 was battery 100% too. Standby without APN connection, recieved one SMS only.About 10:30 was 99% have one short about minute,recieved call. On 12:00 make APN conection (2G) and about 20 min was on the internet, some news page, company pages, etc., and battery dropped to 97%, about 14:00 some calls 3-4 min, dropped to 95%. On 15:00 was on the APN about half hour,battery go on 93%. To now on 19:00 hour battery is on 92%...I think this is great thing, beause before my galaxy was from 100% to empty about one and half day....
Next thing i use only when i need it, usualy stay:
1.WiFi off
2.APN only when need Internet(2G), rest is off
3.Bluetooth off
4. Animation off (in Settings)
5.Autorotate off
6.GPS off
7.Network location off
8.Autosync off
Best regards
PS (Sorry if my english is bad)
Just given this a try...will report back in a few days.
I tried it... i didnt notice a SIGNIFICANT change... although i did switch from ryan's lagfix to the voodoo one... so that maybe have had an effect. Overall it feels like the battery life is about the same...
Also no change for me, after 8 hours of use with wifi or 3g on whole time, dropped 35%.
I forgett say, i have stock I9000XXJF3 rooted firmware,newer reflashed any other firmware, none lagfix apk, or other etc. system things apk, expect task manager and startup manager... From 19:00 when a haved 92%, and now on 1:20 i have 89% with 15 minute calling, 4 SMS sended/recived, about half hour internet surfing on 2G, and 10 min play bubbles game. Tommorow i will tried GPS lasting and wifi. For me more than fantastic battery duration...I was Make exactly how read on HTC Desire thread, except wipe battery stats, but reboot i was make from recovery menu, not usualy with on/off button or some reboot apk, becaus, i think maybe battery stats itself refreshed-calibrated !?
Best regards
Well, I did this last night, and my phones battery status is now showing 98% after 11.5 hours.
To be fair, I was asleep for most of this time, and have only brought the phone out of standby a couple of times to check the time.
I also have APN/bluetooth/Wifi switched off, and i'm using only 2g networks.
Still, 2% in almost 12 hours isn't bad is it?
Nope....
I just tried it this morning. I still have the same battery consumption per hour with the same amount of using the phone. So I guess it's not working for me.
ibizaGTi said:
Well, I did this last night, and my phones battery status is now showing 98% after 11.5 hours.
To be fair, I was asleep for most of this time, and have only brought the phone out of standby a couple of times to check the time.
I also have APN/bluetooth/Wifi switched off, and i'm using only 2g networks.
Still, 2% in almost 12 hours isn't bad is it?
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I forgett say, i have stock I9000XXJF3 rooted firmware,newer reflashed any other firmware, none lagfix apk, or other etc. system things apk, expect task manager and startup manager... From 19:00 when a haved 92%, and now on 1:20 i have 89% with 15 minute calling, 4 SMS sended/recived, about half hour internet surfing on 2G, and 10 min play bubbles game. Tommorow i will tried GPS lasting and wifi. For me more than fantastic battery duration...I was Make exactly how read on HTC Desire thread, except wipe battery stats, but reboot i was make from recovery menu, not usualy with on/off button or some reboot apk, becaus, i think maybe battery stats itself refreshed-calibrated !?
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Wow, that's seriously amazing guys. No noticeable improvements here. Followed the procedure, it was 100% at 8am. It's 6pm now, and after around 25 texts, 75 minutes of 2g calls and 5 minutes of 2g browsing, I now have 27% battery left. Doesn't seem like anything has improved.
I'm on JM7 with voodoo, btw.
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have good succes with disabling power saving mode, so the brightness mode only is, as i set to be, my batterytime has improve significant.
911rsr said:
have good succes with disabling power saving mode, so the brightness mode only is, as i set to be, my batterytime has improve significant.
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Yeah, and power saving mode on the display is annoying anyways.
This method seems like voodoo (not the lagfix voodoo), but many people on many devices seem to swear by it.
If you're not happy with battery life, get spare parts off the market and look into what's eating up the battery life. Check your data-sucking widgets, wifi sleep policy, screen brightness settings, etc. Get rid of those apps that are mis-behaving and turn down the frequency on widget data.
Wiping batterystats.bin file after a full charge usually helps if you haven't tried that.
Also, if this is your first smartphone with a big bright display and a fast cpu, get used to the fact that the battery isn't going to last as long as your Razr did, not anywhere near as long.
Get a spare battery (the SGS battery is so thin it fits in my wallet without even noticing it's there, get a spare desk charger for your office and keep a charger in the car. Dock/charge the thing when you have the chance to keep the % up while you're away from the charger, and stop worrying over this.
With virtually every new "ROM" I follow on this device and the Nexus One, the first and biggest complaint is usually "battery life sucks" in the early release stage; then the complaints start disappearing as the battery stats get a chance to settle down.
Yes, I did tried that 'HTC Desire' Method.
On my previous firmware JM5,
80% 18hrs
74% 1 Day 1 hrs 47min
And lasted until the 3rd day before I had to plug in the charger. All this with Wifi off and idling most of the time.
For JPC,
The battery level was awful until I applied the wifi fix for JPc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774507&page=5
Currently, my galaxy s is on 28% approaching 3 days (72 hours). So i guess in my case the battery level did improved. All this with playing games, wifi on (off when the screen is off) and movies. So the usage definitely increased, yet the battery still stands strong
Oh and another thing, the brightness level on JM5 was 30 (android lowest). I discovered Dimmer after that, which promptly reduced the brightess to 10 for JPC. That might explain the better battery part a bit
erm why does disabling power saving mode increase the battery life? i thought it supposes to save the power instead? My brightness is already set to the lowest means i dont need to enable power saving mode? wads the difference of enabling and dis-enabling.
Same question. Then why it's called Power Saving mode?
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Same question. Then why it's called Power Saving mode?
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During this mode, the screen's brightness will adjust to the color/intensity of the image projected on your screen. If the image is bright, the brightness will go down in order to safe battery life.
If the image is dark (like most of the SGS's UI) it will increase the brightness because dark colors don't drain as much of the battery.
This sounds pretty confusing, but when you think about it, it makes sense.
I disabled this mode, because i think i conflicts with the automatic brightness setting =D
QuickSettings did the trick for me, if i'm in a dark area i disable automatic brightness and go for the lowest setting (Still brighter than an Acer Liquid or HTC Desire if you ask me ! AMOLED IS GREAT !)
So basically it means that by disabling the power saving mode save the power more instead? As it does nt increase the brightness nor decrease automatically?
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I have tried this desire fix and it achieved no improvement at all.
I have heard that the best thing is to let battery drain then charge whilst phone is off.. but its too impractical to do this all the time..
I may be wrong but wasn't someone with good battery life going to share the batterystat file? was there someone mentioning a fix like this?
Also if you have 3 batteries how does that tie into the battery stats file.. after GPS fixing this is now seeming like a big problem, a few people i know and from an Australian forum have been disappointed with the battery life, and some people on here are getting 2-3 days
A guy from work tested it before taking it back and without sim, network, wifi etc got 23 hours in standby.
The website states something like 300 hours in standby? I think that is BS in fact on the samsung galaxy Australian site, they have replaced the battery standby to TBA...
Anyway after samsung took his device and 'tested it' they said the hardware was all okay, here is the new firmware.
As soon as I see him I will report what fw samsung gave him to 'fix' his battery life.
I call shannigans on samsung.... again!
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Wow, that's seriously amazing guys. No noticeable improvements here. Followed the procedure, it was 100% at 8am. It's 6pm now, and after around 25 texts, 75 minutes of 2g calls and 5 minutes of 2g browsing, I now have 27% battery left. Doesn't seem like anything has improved.
I'm on JM7 with voodoo, btw.
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A you sure is not in backgrond AutoSync, or GPS, or Network location is off. And very important make exatly procedure step by step from Desire thread...Im now after 38 hours (day and half) on 70% with my usual using (about hour 2G internet, 30 minute call, 4-5 SMS, and 10 min GPS with network location. BUT ALL MAKE OFF AFTER USING, when go on Standby)....Impresive realy?
I thinking make same procedure with my old HTC Touch Diamond 2...
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I have tried this desire fix and it achieved no improvement at all.
I have heard that the best thing is to let battery drain then charge whilst phone is off.. but its too impractical to do this all the time..
I may be wrong but wasn't someone with good battery life going to share the batterystat file? was there someone mentioning a fix like this?
Also if you have 3 batteries how does that tie into the battery stats file.. after GPS fixing this is now seeming like a big problem, a few people i know and from an Australian forum have been disappointed with the battery life, and some people on here are getting 2-3 days
A guy from work tested it before taking it back and without sim, network, wifi etc got 23 hours in standby.
The website states something like 300 hours in standby? I think that is BS in fact on the samsung galaxy Australian site, they have replaced the battery standby to TBA...
Anyway after samsung took his device and 'tested it' they said the hardware was all okay, here is the new firmware.
As soon as I see him I will report what fw samsung gave him to 'fix' his battery life.
I call shannigans on samsung.... again!
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Charge with phone off while you sleep shouldn't be too hard, unless you need the phone for incoming calls or alarms.
I don't believe batterystats.bin can be shared amongst phones, it's really just a log of your own phone's battery performance, if I understand it correctly.
Three batteries (like you and I have) will almost certainly confuse the battterystats file, unless all three batteries have exactly the same performance characteristics.
300 hours in standby...? Well, those kind of stats are always under "optimal" conditions. Optimal for any smartphone would be to have the phone in 2G only, wifi off, BT off, syncing off, all widgets off, location off, etc, etc, etc; basically just your phone in cell standby and not being used for anything else. My Nexus One, which gets little to no use now, used to last no more than 18 hours as my everyday phone, now with Froyo on it, a few weather widgets, wifi on, location on, etc, etc, it will last several days off the charger. I think we all just use our phones a LOT more than we realize, and that the display chews up more battery than we think.
Looking forward to what new firmware Sammy gives your friend.
This really helped me and I'm dead serious, after flashing a lot of roms and somtimes charging to only 50-70 percent and then disconnecting it seemed that my battery drained way to fast! I followed this:
1: Charge phone whilst on till LED is green.
2: Disconnect phone from charger, power it off.
3: Reconnect to charger with phone powered off and allow to charge till LED is green.
4: Disconnect the phone from charger, power it on. Once completely powered on, turn it off again and reconnect to charger until LED is green.
5: Reboot into recovery with clockworkmod and wipe battery stats.
And now after 5 hours with about 20 sms send/received I still have 93% battery, normally it was like 83 or lower by then, so I'm very happy! thanks for posting
I upgraded to a Pixel 5 because my Pixel 2 XL was experiencing hardware issues and was going to die. Among them were battery degradation that was leaving me with maybe 3 hours screen on time from a full battery.
The Pixel 5 so far has been barely better. Additionally I went to bed last night with about 79 percent battery, I woke up around 48 percent. I have no idea what's going on but this is fresh out of the box, I got it Thursday like everyone else in the USA. Is this normal? Can anyone suggest how to figure out what's causing this drain?
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I upgraded to a Pixel 5 because my Pixel 2 XL was experiencing hardware issues and was going to die. Among them were battery degradation that was leaving me with maybe 3 hours screen on time from a full battery.
The Pixel 5 so far has been barely better. Additionally I went to bed last night with about 79 percent battery, I woke up around 48 percent. I have no idea what's going on but this is fresh out of the box, I got it Thursday like everyone else in the USA. Is this normal? Can anyone suggest how to figure out what's causing this drain?
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I loose 4% overnight. Maybe an app is running in the background. Check WiFi for poor connection or background scanning.
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You might wanna FDR and start fresh. Sounds like something might be hung up from the setup. All reports about battery have been stellar so far.
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I loose 4% overnight. Maybe an app is running in the background. Check WiFi for poor connection or background scanning.
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I did have scanning on, so I went and turned them off. I have a Verizon variant, so I can't root. Do you have any recommendations for how to track down a rogue app or service that might be draining the battery?
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You might wanna FDR and start fresh. Sounds like something might be hung up from the setup. All reports about battery have been stellar so far.
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I did do the setup where you transfer data from your old device. I guess maybe I need to bite the bullet and do it fresh.
Do you know anything about the... I think the setting is called Always On Display or something like that. The setting where when the phone is locked and the screen is off, it always displays the time and notification icons. I had it on my Pixel 2 and it worked great, it's almost necessary for me at this point. I have it turned on also on the 5, but it seems...finicky? At times it shuts off, especially at night. I used to keep my Pixel2 on my nightstand (just laying flat, not on a stand or anything) and the time would be on all night so I could see it at night if I woke up. With the 5 it seems to shut off in the dark. Additionally periodically during the day it sometimes all of sudden jumps to really high brightness, then back down to dim, sometimes it turns off completely and I have to hit the power button or the fingerprint reader to unlock the phone. Even doing the tap to wake doesn't work. Actually that double tap to wake doesn't seem to work at all regardless.
Any info on any of those issues you know about? I've been searching around and I've found basic references to some stuff with that always on display but no direct threads or anything specific.
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I did do the setup where you transfer data from your old device. I guess maybe I need to bite the bullet and do it fresh.
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Not too sure about AOD, I just went with defaults. But last night, my first with the P5, I unplugged at full charge and 7 + hours later it was at 100%. That's never happened but it was face down and on DND. Nonetheless, check out this thread, download the app, non root needs certain permissions, and let it run for a day or so. It should show you what you need to know.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Did you make sure to charge the phone to 100% before using it??? These lithium ion batteries need to be charged to the max if you want them to last. My pixel 5 wasn't even fully charged it was somewhere around 65% out of the box. I would leave it charging for a half hour or so once it hits 100% just to be sure.
I mean.. this is mine.
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I mean this mine.
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That looks similar to my first day of use. Excellent battery life so far.
jobhax said:
I mean.. this is mine.
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That's incredible. Next time include all 3 screens please. I could get 12 hours of on screen time all on wifi. Let's see you get that on 5G.
Real world battery is best.
I'm seeing great battery life like many others.
I started using AccuBattery Pro. How accurate is the estimated capacity given by the app? Anyone have any experience?
For me the app is estimating battery capacity to be 4,490mAh which is obviously way above the advertised capacity.
Coming from a worn out pixel 2xl this 5 is fabulous the battery is great. I accidentally left the flashlight on for an hour and it barely drained it. The battery is exceeding my expectations. Screen on time at 5 hours and I'm just at 49% with 10 hours remaining. I'm satisfied for sure
Also on Verizon, but no issues for me. Battery life has been amazing, I didn't charge last night (unintentional) and I was going until this afternoon, with mostly light usage. I've never experienced something like that before.
So in case anyone is interested in this, I actually have a hardware defect that was discovered by a user on reddit.
Link Here
The gist is that the proximity sensor is (i think) detecting that something is up against it all the time. This creates issues with things such as the phone screen not turning on when you pull the phone away from your ear when on a phone call, Issues with tap to wake and lift to wake not working, and Ambient display/always on display (whatever it's called now) constantly changing brightness and/or shutting the display off completely. Literally the phone could be sitting there on the table and all of a sudden the always on display goes to max brightness, then down to dim, then up, then shut off completely. I assume all this craziness is hitting the battery hard.
I am trying (although frustratingly) to get Verizon to exchange it for a new phone. My phone acts exactly like in that thread. There's a proximity sensor app that will detect when something is near it and change color. Mine is solid colored and won't change unless you press on the glass near the sensor. Just in case anyone else has this issue come up, there it is.
I'm at 5 hours of screen on time and 17 hours use. The battery is exceptional and I can dedicate more time to work online because of it.
It sounds like you have ported a troublesome app over from your old phone to be honest. I think a factory reset would fix it.
pemz82 said:
I'm seeing great battery life like many others.
I started using AccuBattery Pro. How accurate is the estimated capacity given by the app? Anyone have any experience?
For me the app is estimating battery capacity to be 4,490mAh which is obviously way above the advertised capacity.
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Mine says 3,900mAh and hasn't changed for two weeks, which irritates me. Battery life is... okay.
Curious
I'm losing apprx. 6-10% while I sleep. seems a little excessive compared to other testimonies. I have to usaul social media apps, messeging apps no gaming, no AOD.
Any insight is appreciated.
I aslo did the FR with copying from older phone as suggested in the thread.
Morpherios said:
So in case anyone is interested in this, I actually have a hardware defect that was discovered by a user on reddit.
Link Here
The gist is that the proximity sensor is (i think) detecting that something is up against it all the time. This creates issues with things such as the phone screen not turning on when you pull the phone away from your ear when on a phone call, Issues with tap to wake and lift to wake not working, and Ambient display/always on display (whatever it's called now) constantly changing brightness and/or shutting the display off completely. Literally the phone could be sitting there on the table and all of a sudden the always on display goes to max brightness, then down to dim, then up, then shut off completely. I assume all this craziness is hitting the battery hard.
I am trying (although frustratingly) to get Verizon to exchange it for a new phone. My phone acts exactly like in that thread. There's a proximity sensor app that will detect when something is near it and change color. Mine is solid colored and won't change unless you press on the glass near the sensor. Just in case anyone else has this issue come up, there it is.
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I have most of the issues that you describe and yet my battery life amazing. Still v frustrating though.
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I have most of the issues that you describe and yet my battery life amazing. Still v frustrating though.
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I just finally got my replacement last night from Verizon. Too early to tell if it fixed my battery issues because I had to set everything up and such. But If you have those issues, I would get a replacement. That's a faulty phone.
So i got my S21 Ultra a couple of weeks ago and the battery life isn't as good as people tell it to be... I wonder if this is normal or i have a faulty unit
Important: i am running the latest update on my exynos device (february security patch as of the making of this thread)
What do you expect? You have used the phone almost 12 hours, used Samsung Music for nearly 8 hours and still have 78% battery left lol. This is great.
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What do you expect? You have used the phone almost 12 hours, used Samsung Music for nearly 8 hours and still have 78% battery left lol. This is great.
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The SoT is pretty crap i can only get 5 to 6 hours if i'm lucky, all i do is watch youtube and netflix and nothing else pretty much, and since SoT is pretty important to me idk if i should wait for an update or get another unit
If you are comparing to a Chinese phone, I would agree that the battery life is not great. Before buying S21 Ultra(exynos), I was using Mi 10T pro. It has better battery performance than S21 Ultra. The other thing that I dislike about would be the heat issue on S21 Ultra. Its horrible.
SOT is only one measure of battery life, the battery still depletes when the screen is off, especially if you're doing something like listening to music for 7 hours......
If you saw the YouTube 'battery drain' tests, the majority are in a room, mobile turned off and on WIFI. They are in constant use with minimal ramping/up down of the processor as they only switch apps every hour. These guys achieve up to 9 hours with constant use in optimal conditions.
If you extrapolate out your current usage you're on for 7 hours with 51 hours total, which is very very strong. People would kill for that endurance
At best you can expect 0.5% an hour drain if you aren't using the phone, but that's if you literally leave it overnight and don't touch it. More likely it'll be between 1-2% depending on usage, so if you calculate you've had roughly 10 hours of screen off, that's about 10% battery that isn't being used on screen on time, which equates to roughly an hour of SOT 'missed out on' if you were just to run the device with the screen on for the sake of it.
If you're truly only concerned about SOT, run a day without music in the background and see the improvement. It's a nonsensical thing to do as that's not how you use your phone, but will get you the numbers you want...
You're also using a high end processor and a large screen with a high refresh rate, it's going to use more juice than a mid range or low end phone. If you send that phone back, someone else is going to be very happy when they get it as their replacement
mtm1401 said:
SOT is only one measure of battery life, the battery still depletes when the screen is off, especially if you're doing something like listening to music for 7 hours......
If you saw the YouTube 'battery drain' tests, the majority are in a room, mobile turned off and on WIFI. They are in constant use with minimal ramping/up down of the processor as they only switch apps every hour. These guys achieve up to 9 hours with constant use in optimal conditions.
If you extrapolate out your current usage you're on for 7 hours with 51 hours total, which is very very strong. People would kill for that endurance
At best you can expect 0.5% an hour drain if you aren't using the phone, but that's if you literally leave it overnight and don't touch it. More likely it'll be between 1-2% depending on usage, so if you calculate you've had roughly 10 hours of screen off, that's about 10% battery that isn't being used on screen on time, which equates to roughly an hour of SOT 'missed out on' if you were just to run the device with the screen on for the sake of it.
If you're truly only concerned about SOT, run a day without music in the background and see the improvement. It's a nonsensical thing to do as that's not how you use your phone, but will get you the numbers you want...
You're also using a high end processor and a large screen with a high refresh rate, it's going to use more juice than a mid range or low end phone. If you send that phone back, someone else is going to be very happy when they get it as their replacement
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With my s21 ultta i can easily achieve 10-12hours of sot with browsjng and youtube on wlan with total runtime of 48hours.on mobile data its a good 35% less (also cause of brighter screen outdoors) but Overall its good battery life for me (note im debloated and using Samsung browser with darkmode!!)
I'm doing OK on the battery. Turned off goggle discover on side screen has helped aswell as 5g disabled as I don't have it where I live atm
Goku1992 said:
With my s21 ultta i can easily achieve 10-12hours of sot with browsjng and youtube on wlan with total runtime of 48hours.on mobile data its a good 35% less (also cause of brighter screen outdoors) but Overall its good battery life for me (note im debloated and using Samsung browser with darkmode!!)
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Ive attached a screenshot. Note this was 90% with wlan
Goku1992 said:
Ive attached a screenshot. Note this was 90% with wlan
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What have you done other than debloat and Samsung browser?
mtm1401 said:
What have you done other than debloat and Samsung browser?
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Nothing running 60hz and wqhd (on my phone fhd and wqhd doesnt made a different more that 2-4% so....)
Goku1992 said:
Nothing running 60hz and wqhd (on my phone fhd and wqhd doesnt made a different more that 2-4% so....)
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Yea it'll be the 60hz getting you through then, makes sense
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Yea it'll be the 60hz getting you through then, makes sense
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Yes if you want the same smoothness and a good 10% better battery you can use the 96hz mod
Put brightness on manual. The display eats a lot of the battery. Try to keep it at 50% or less.
Turn off all animations and use dark mode/dark wallpapers. Junk like tic-tok, fb don't help.
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Put brightness on manual. The display eats a lot of the battery. Try to keep it at 50% or less.
Turn off all animations and use dark mode/dark wallpapers. Junk like tic-tok, fb don't help.
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Im using automatic brightness. Yes only using instagram, fb in the browser cause zhose notifications are annoing...
Goku1992 said:
Im using automatic brightness. Yes only using instagram, fb in the browser cause zhose notifications are annoing...
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Fb is malware, I don't care who or what's on it, it's off limits. Instagram... no way.
Tweeter just as bad as fb. Full boycott on all that junk until they f-f-fade away
Been using manual brightness control for over a year on my 10+. Occasionally I toggle it on but rarely. Going full brightness will greatly reduce OLEDs finite lifespan. Blue goes first... and the burnout isn't even. If I can get 5 years with just a battery change or two, I want it.
So far between Samsung's and Android's weak offerings I have zero incentive to upgrade hardware or firmware
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Fb is malware, I don't care who or what's on it, it's off limits. Instagram... no way.
Tweeter just as bad as fb. Full boycott on all that junk until they f-f-fade away
Been using manual brightness control for over a year on my 10+. Occasionally I toggle it on but rarely. Going full brightness will greatly reduce OLEDs finite lifespan. Blue goes first... and the burnout isn't even. If I can get 5 years with just a battery change or two, I want it.
So far between Samsung's and Android's weak offerings I have zero incentive to upgrade hardware or firmware
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Yes but if you are using them in tge browser they cant suck your battery up and im only using them for roughly 10minutes a day so no problem. But youre right they are like malware... Traking your location every few minutes and that ****
Goku1992 said:
Yes but if you are using them in tge browser they cant suck your battery up and im only using them for roughly 10minutes a day so no problem. But youre right they are like malware... Traking your location every few minutes and that ****
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I do 20-30% charges throughout the day.
Crap like Twitter and fb can cost you your job as well as privacy leading you open to attacks of all kinds. Zero rewards and lots of risk. No.
Remember the night of the long knives?
Think how much easier it be to do now...
Has there been testing on the battery effect of different wireless network modes, including while being connected to Wi-Fi?
I understand that 5G uses more battery, but I'm curious how that is affected when you remain connected to Wi-Fi for all data transfers (using 5G just for calls and texts).
Same question for the other network modes, like LTE/3G/2G vs LTE/2G etc. Or also when you are not connected to Wi-Fi.
I can't help worry that some people are getting bad battery life because they have a poor network signal?
Only rough but very little difference between 4g and WiFi when still, and that's in a location with 2 bars signal. Seems like the phone sleeps better with mobile data on.
It's hard to make a direct comparison with WiFi Vs network, as a lot of the network drain is when moving and polling for new antenna. When looking at signal strength, 4g/5g have the same dBm and 3g/2g have the same dBm, but 4g needs less dBm for a higher transfer rate than 3g, so may use less power over time.
Also I don't think 5g is inherently more power hungry than 4g (I may be wrong), again it's just less available and shorter radio waves, and until now 5g has relied on external modems.
Exactly, I wonder if our S21 Ultra is much better with battery life on 5G, because our SoC includes the 5G modem and it's not external?
My desire is to just keep my phone on 5G while I'm at home idle and the phone is connected to home Wi-Fi. I wonder if there is a battery savings to be had if I switch to LTE while I'm at home on Wi-Fi and the phone is just idle.
Hi everyone,
I got my new S20 FE just a few days ago, and I'm still getting used to it, but I wonder if having to charge the battery every day on average is "normal" or not.
When I plug the phone into the charger, the battery is never flat. Rather, it's hovering at around 30%, and I usually stop charging when it reaches 85 to 90%. I use the 15W (?) charger that was in the box, so no ultra-quick charge for this one.
I tried to plug it into a Xiaomi/Poco 33W charger for a few minutes, just to see if it would speed things up, but the remaining charging time was the same as with the regular charger so I reverted to it, just to be on the safe side.
Still, I wonder if it's normal to have to recharge the phone every day, when my Poco X3 Pro needed to be charged every two days on average. Granted, the Poco has a bigger battery, but it has an LCD screen instead of an AMOLED.
I spend a lot of time on Twitter, especially in the evening, mostly, but that's it. No gaming of any kind.
What say you?
try this https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/galaxy-s20-series/s20fe-battery/td-p/2988440
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try this https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/galaxy-s20-series/s20fe-battery/td-p/2988440
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Hi,
I've turned Auto brightness off. I'll tell you if it changes anything in terms of battery life. I've also set AOD to fixed brightness instead of auto.
Thanks for the tip!
No problem, thank you for the question!
I think that debloating is not a bad idea, also try to go to all individual apps settings and set the battery to Restricted, except mail and messaging apps, so they won't drain the battery when you're not using them. Lowering the screen refresh rate also helps a bit, as well as restricting mobile data to 4G only, if you don't need 5G. Also, you can limit processor speed, turn Adaptive battery on and Enhanced processing off.
Hi again!
I've changed network settings to 4G and below since my SIM doesn't give me access to 5G yet, but battery life was still iffy. I then changed the network settings to something called "GLOBAL", and it's a bit better, though I don't know what that setting does exactly.
It also depends on how much your using your phone, what apps your running (games vs non-games, etc).
For example, I've played some games, but mainly have been on the internet via apps like social media, email, web browser.
I'm currently at 55% And it's been over 24 hours since I last fully charged it. The Battery graph says based on how I've been using the phone that I still have about 1d 3h left.
I do usually charge once a day, but it's definitely more than 24 hours after the last charge. I went to bed last night with over 62% left after having charged it probably 12 hours prior. When I woke up this morning, it was done to 59% and since then, is now at 55%.
So I've been pretty pleased with the battery life for me. Whether that's good or bad, I have no idea but it's definitely better than my last phone.
I don't do games on my phone (in fact, I don't do games at all, period), but I think the AOD being set on automatic lighting could have something to do with my relatively poor battery life. I'll try to set it to a fixed brightness and see if it changes things, though the brightness scale is pretty rudimentary. Maybe the light sensor is turned off when automatic brightness is off.
I usually spend more time on Twitter when I'm on the phone, so this could explain that.
Another possible factor is my application launcher: I use Microsoft Launcher, which I adore, but every time I wake up the screen, it does a position fix to update the weather widget. That could also explain why my battery drains faster than I expected.
I've just set AOD to fixed brightness. I'll tell you if it helps or not. Thanks for your input anyway!
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I don't do games on my phone (in fact, I don't do games at all, period), but I think the AOD being set on automatic lighting could have something to do with my relatively poor battery life. I'll try to set it to a fixed brightness and see if it changes things, though the brightness scale is pretty rudimentary. Maybe the light sensor is turned off when automatic brightness is off.
I usually spend more time on Twitter when I'm on the phone, so this could explain that.
Another possible factor is my application launcher: I use Microsoft Launcher, which I adore, but every time I wake up the screen, it does a position fix to update the weather widget. That could also explain why my battery drains faster than I expected.
I've just set AOD to fixed brightness. I'll tell you if it helps or not. Thanks for your input anyway!
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I used to use Microsoft Launcher, but then switched to Nova launcher. However, since getting this phone, I've moved to OneUI and I'm loving it. I haven't really changed anything. AOD is set to whatever it was out of the box and I've been on Twitter and the web since I last posted and I'm currently at 53%.
I think I have seen MS Launcher be a battery hog if I remember. Nova isn't as bad, but OneUI seems to work great.
Also, the number and type of widgets you have installed could also cause battery drain. For me, I only have one screen. I use smart widgets to "stack" widgets I need which are calendar, weather (from WeatherBug), Brave Search, PowerAmp (for music) and then the phone maintenance widget. So far, battery life is pretty good like I've said.
You can also go into Settings->Battery and Device Care and maybe check in there to see what might be eating up your battery the most.
I like the look and feel of MS Launcher, compared to others (I believe I've tried them all over the years...), even if I have to admit Nova is a close second. MS Launcher is a possible culprit, obviously. I may switch back to One UI to check how things are going, I don't know.
I've just topped-off the battery, and just idling, the phone is supposed to last over 2 days until the next charge, but I know it won't last that long.
So I got my phone used (only 2 months, still has back poly attached) and it came with august 1 update and the battery drain on it is abysmal. I can see the battery go down while I'm browsing insta or whatever, not even gaming. You know what instantly fixed it? Downclocking my gpu and cpu using FKM. But this is not a pretty solution as it requires root and I would like to experience stock without root for a bit.
Which makes me think the system isn't properly downclocking the soc when idle leading to increased drain. I would like to know if anyone has a better fix than just disabling all the options on your phone.
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So I got my phone used (only 2 months, still has back poly attached) and it came with august 1 update and the battery drain on it is abysmal. I can see the battery go down while I'm browsing insta or whatever, not even gaming. You know what instantly fixed it? Downclocking my gpu and cpu using FKM. But this is not a pretty solution as it requires root and I would like to experience stock without root for a bit.
Which makes me think the system isn't properly downclocking the soc when idle leading to increased drain. I would like to know if anyone has a better fix than just disabling all the options on your phone.
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Well, considering it's used (was it refurbished or did you purchase it off eBay or some other market)? That might be why it was being sold. You said 2 months. Does that mean it was only used for 2 months or you've had it for 2 months? If the phone itself is only 2 months old, who knows how the previous owner used the phone.
Did you do a factory reset when you got it to ensure it was back to stock settings? If so, then it might be your battery is bad and could be the reason it was sold/returned by the previous owner. If you haven't factory reset it, that is possibly the only other option that I can think of if you've already rooted and downclocked it.
Mine was new when I got it a few weeks ago and the battery lasts 1.5 days for me, even with the refresh rate set to 120 Hz. And that's with moderate use (playing games a bit, browsing the web, texting, phone calls).
You might want to try setting your screen refresh to 60 Hz to see if that helps as well if you haven't done that yet.
Go to Settings->Display->Motion Smoothness and select "Standard" to set it to 60 Hz refresh. That will save some battery as well.
See if that helps as well. If not, and as I stated, if you haven't done a factory reset, that might be your only other option unless someone else has something I haven't thought of.
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Well, considering it's used (was it refurbished or did you purchase it off eBay or some other market)? That might be why it was being sold. You said 2 months. Does that mean it was only used for 2 months or you've had it for 2 months? If the phone itself is only 2 months old, who knows how the previous owner used the phone.
Did you do a factory reset when you got it to ensure it was back to stock settings? If so, then it might be your battery is bad and could be the reason it was sold/returned by the previous owner. If you haven't factory reset it, that is possibly the only other option that I can think of if you've already rooted and downclocked it.
Mine was new when I got it a few weeks ago and the battery lasts 1.5 days for me, even with the refresh rate set to 120 Hz. And that's with moderate use (playing games a bit, browsing the web, texting, phone calls).
You might want to try setting your screen refresh to 60 Hz to see if that helps as well if you haven't done that yet.
Go to Settings->Display->Motion Smoothness and select "Standard" to set it to 60 Hz refresh. That will save some battery as well.
See if that helps as well. If not, and as I stated, if you haven't done a factory reset, that might be your only other option unless someone else has something I haven't thought of.
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Yeah I got it from a store second hand. Came with the back poly still attached and no damages on the body. A killer deal. As for the battery issue, I had flashed wrong region stock rom. After learning what csc meant and figuring out I was on the wrong region I flashed the right rom and now my battery life is top notch. On a side note it has only 54 charge cycles after I got it.
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Yeah I got it from a store second hand. Came with the back poly still attached and no damages on the body. A killer deal. As for the battery issue, I had flashed wrong region stock rom. After learning what csc meant and figuring out I was on the wrong region I flashed the right rom and now my battery life is top notch. On a side note it has only 54 charge cycles after I got it.
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Glad you were able to figure it out. Even though the phone is reaching 2 years since it's release, I've been very happy with it. My S7 finally died over a week ago after 5+ years of dependable service.
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Glad you were able to figure it out. Even though the phone is reaching 2 years since it's release, I've been very happy with it. My S7 finally died over a week ago after 5+ years of dependable service.
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This is actually the second device I bought this year. At first I upgraded my Redmi Note 5 Pro which gave me 4 years of great service. Could have reached 5 but then I would not be able to exchange it so I did and got a Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus 5g. Considering how much I paid for it I was more or less satisfied except the camera. Then I bought this after months of careful consideration and also because it was a killer deal. I got a brand new device for half the price. Flagship specs at 33k bdt. You can't get a better deal.