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Hey Guys,
I'm a long time blackberry user and I've gone through at least a half dozen over the years.
I'm currently using the Blackberry Bold 9900, which I suppose is the current flagship model.
I bought the Playbook tablet long ago, unfortunately even after the '2.0 update' it's basically a paperweight and almost useless. In my frustration I bought a kindle fire, and was very impressed. There's a very active dev community, and in no time I had it rooted and was testing out different mods and kernels. Lots of fun.
This got me thinking about getting a more competent android device, the fire is good but I'd be interested to see what a serious device could do. I've been waiting forever to get a tablet with a decent digitizer/stylus and was immediately interested by the Galaxy Note (and later the Galaxy Note 10.1).
I've been seriously considering getting the Galaxy Note as a second phone and giving it a go. However, I still don't understand why I would want or need such a large and powerful device.
Typing on a touchscreen is pretty terrible. Yeah everyone says you get used to it, but I could bang out 50wpm in the dark with my hands behind my back on my blackberry.
I had the iPhone 3GS and I hated it so much I threw it out of the window on the highway. What a nightmare.
Secondly, I only ever use my bb to: email, bbm, twitter, and occasionally make calls.
So I suppose my question is.. Other than the fun that is hacking up the phone/tablet and customizing it. What's the point? Why does one need a device like this? What do you do with it to justify having it? What apps do you need/use on a daily basis that need two cores and a HD screen?
As a consumer, I want one. But as a rational person I don't know what I would use it for. I only use my kindle fire to play crappy time killer games on the treadmill. What's the point?
Thanks for your time.
Android has the ability to customize everything to such an extent that basic, you made the phone. That's what everyone loves about it. You can the look, feel, and functionality all to your liking.
Also, you have the option of the three main android version which are: Stock (can be seen on the galaxy nexus) HTC Sense (can be seen on all HTC phones) and MIUI (a custom rom that extends the customization ability even further with has themes for EVERY aspect e.x. The dialer, messaging app, notification bar, lock screen, etc)
You should go your local bestbuy and play with the phones. Android is a great experience.
In reference to your apps that you like, there are many email and twitter apps, all with different levels of functionality, and being that you're social, you'll enjoy widgets that allow you to send a tweet quickly, right from your home screen. When you finally leave BBM, you'll realize that it's not so important. There is an app called Talk, it's just like BBM, only for android. Texting is also just as good.
I hope I helped in your decision and enlightened your image of Android.
Good luck!
I asked myself these very same questions before purchasing a true smartphone, and sadly it turns out to be a life eater. You can do almost anything on the phone. I use mine mainly for music, news reading, and playing games. But everyone always finds different things useful in their phone. I can almost guarantee you won't regret getting the Note. That is if you can deal with that massively beautiful screen.
Thank you kindly for the responses KayxGee1 and JustinUhhh.
I think I will take the leap, and try it out for at least one month.
I went from BB OS to Android and could not be happier. Give it a try, the positives will likely outweigh any negatives for you.
It all depends on what you do. If you want to be able to play high end games, be able to have the latest software for a good while and be able to keep up with the rest for another year then you should get the note. If none of the above matter then any simple android device should do.
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Overall Android just gives you an experience that is designed for you, couldn't be happier with it.
Honestly I see Blackberrys at the end of the smart phone train. I love Android cause it is sleek and fun to use!
Android can be a portable office, a portable arcade, or a portable jukebox. For geeks the customizability is an attraction in itself. If you travel a lot you really can't beat it as a mobile commumication center. It's really whatever you make of it.
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KayxGee1 said:
Also, you have the option of the three main android version which are: Stock (can be seen on the galaxy nexus) HTC Sense (can be seen on all HTC phones) and MIUI (a custom rom that extends the customization ability even further with has themes for EVERY aspect e.x. The dialer, messaging app, notification bar, lock screen, etc)
You should go your local bestbuy and play with the phones. Android is a great experience.
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Miui isn't a main Android version. But touchwiz on Samsung phones and motoblur on Motorola phones is.
- this sig is just so I don't have to write 10char when on my phone -
Here we have:
- MotoBlur
- Sense
- Xperia
- LG UI
- TouchWiz
- Tap n' Tap UI
- Google Nexus AOSP Devices (Android)
That's all I remember now
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juggies said:
Made the jump, and one week later.. It's going great! The xda community is fantastic, and the hardware is unreal. Cheers guys!
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glad u did bc u went from a stone wheel to a space shuttle
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I really don't ever see this changing because google will never take control of their product. But over the past few weeks I have been noticing that the only phones people really know about are the iphone and samsung s3. Like if i tell people about what a nexus is and why it's better they just look at me crazy like I'm trying to pitch them and I'm the one out of touch.
Google releases a 300 dollar phone that is hard to order, on half the carriers,lacks storage and LTE and they this is going to work. It makes me sick that touchwiz is the face of android. I wonder how google feels about this.
I don't really care much what stupid people think my phone's awsome, wooohooo
n7'd from my n7
Google releases a 300 dollar phone that is hard to order, on half the carriers,lacks storage and LTE and they this is going to work. It makes me sick that touchwiz is the face of android. I wonder how google feels about this.
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Google is new to the hardware market. Sure, they sold already 4 Nexus devices, but the Nexus One, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus are developer / nerd / android lover devices and not a device for everyone like the Nexus 4.
Google made mistakes, though. Really bad mistaked. The ordering is bad, no 32 GB Nexus 4, Android 4.2 is bad and create weird issues. I hope a 4.2.1 update will come soon and fix the problems with my Nexus 4 (USB OTG, Random ANRs, Touchscreen Sensivity).
Samsung spent a ton on marketing. They deserve to get some fruit from their labors.
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Remember when HTC was the face of Android? Remember when Sense (not the Windows version) was first unveiled along with the HTC Hero? How about the Evo and it's massive (at the time) 4.3in screen? Samsung being in the spotlight now only pushes the other manufacturers to work harder on their new devices and marketing schemes. The other big Android companies will also get their time to shine at some point, but that's not what the Nexus line is about. The Nexus line is really built for Devs, people like us who frequent XDA, and for Google to set the standard for what OEMs should strive for.
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Nope.
Samsung have amazing build quality, some people don't like plastic but the build quality is second to none. The amount of sales and the few returns they have proves this and Apple don't choose Samsung to make the insides of their products because they suck.
Also TouchWiz is great, I don't see why people hate on it so much. Samsung make their phones easy to load new roms, they don't try to stop you from doing it like some. Also when I try to go back to stock Android after using TouchWiz.... I can't because stock Android, even 4.2 is missing so many amazing features. I mean the Note 2's Pen functionality and the PiP and multiple windows is worth TouchWiz alone.
Pointless thread - nothing to do with the Nexus 4
Should be in the Android forum
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About as much as I care that Microsoft is the face of the operating system market.
The general population can keep using what they want, there is always going to be power users who want to tweak and automate everything they can to work best for them.
I'll happily use my AOSP ROMs and Gentoo while the general population happily uses Touchwiz and Windows.
People need to stop saying that the Nexus line is for developers and geeks. That really hasn't been true for years now. That ended when carriers started selling Nexus branded phones in retail stores and online (pretty much since the Nexus S). The Galaxy Nexus was just some weird "Galaxy S II.5" phone offering the stock experience and the Nexus S was the precursor to the Galaxy S II.
This is the Nexus 4 General forum, for news, tips, guides, howtos, etc relating to LG & Google's Nexus 4.
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the nexus 4 is a great device, and im sure the Galaxy S4 will be nice also.
I realize this is a Nexus 4 forum, but my question is this; is the s4 a worthy upgrade from the nexus 4?
please shout off below, and I will give thanks to those who deserve it.
and there is a poll up top
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I totally forgot about the HTC one XD
that device is also pretty slick (maybe) so also give opinions on that phone too maybe?
thanks!
curtis
By the time S4 becomes available the N4 will be over 6months+ old; this is a long time in phone tech these days.
For me the performance improvement isn't enough considering the time gap; just wait another few months for the real next gen.
Just ask yourself one question. Can you live without timely updates? Also, cyanogenmod devs are not going to be buying the s4. If I can find the source I will post it.
Edit: http://m.androidcentral.com/cm-developers-passing-samsung-galaxy-s4-should-you
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By the time S4 becomes available the N4 will be over 6months+ old; this is a long time in phone tech these days.
For me the performance improvement isn't enough considering the time gap; just wait another few months for the real next gen.
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I feel you may be right, the s4 specs are good BUT there not anything spectacular. if anything its a minor update (in my opinion) to the S3.
how would you see the HTC One?
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Just ask yourself one question. Can you live without timely updates? Also, cyanogenmod devs are not going to be buying the s4. If I can find the source I will post it.
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ya i read that the other day on google currents (I have android central, android police, cult of android, and a few others on my feed)
Its a shame, but these companies noot to make unlocked bootloaders and easy to root, rom and flash
I dont do rooting or anything, but i understand the frustration from all you rooters...as I was with my verizon galaxy nexus
I haven't even rooted my n4. I've never been happier with a device.
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if you like buggy stock ROM´s, even more buggier custom ROM´s, missing source code, no original development ... go for the S4
I´ll stick to my N4
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I feel you may be right, the s4 specs are good BUT there not anything spectacular. if anything its a minor update (in my opinion) to the S3.
how would you see the HTC One?
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Agreed it's not worth it at all, I had the S3 and I am never going back to plastic. The only thing I would get is the One, and that's if it gets S-OFFed. Honestly, I am 100% happy with this phone, I'll wait for the next nexus before I even consider anything else.
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Honestly I my self am not impressed with the new changes to the s4(meaning most of the "new" features could have been a software update on the s3). I've owned the entire galaxy line accept the note family and just switched to a nexus 4. Samsungs got a lot of bug issue within there phones as well as hardware issues Samsung has really began to become the iPhone of the android world honestly I would wait to see what Google has in the works in there upcoming press conference before making any decisions then you have the three to choose from being the HTC one s4 and maybe a Nexus 5. Coming from a previous Samsung user and the experience I've had with there products I would not go back and for me personally as well nothing beats stock android and always getting an update weather your phone is 2 years old or 2 months old. Well that's my 2 cents take it or leave it and have a blessed day.
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Samsung needs to stop trying to re-invent the wheel. They are are adding too much crap to the phones in the form of Samsung made social media crap, media players and other proprietary software.
If they don't add clean simple features then people will lose interest. When I bought my S3 I was fumbling around trying to find out how most of the new features worked, only to find it cumbersome and counter-intuitive. What good are features if you never use them?
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Hey all, I'm seriously considering purchasing this device and I think i should understand more about root on it before I get it. I'm currently using the AT&T HTC One X (evita, dual-core) and I've got a very good understanding of the Android OS and rooting in general, and for HTC devices, but not a grasp on Samsung devices. I've rooted and ROM'd a few in the past for friends, but I still am not 100% on them. So, coming from and HTC device and knowing a lot about android in general my main questions are...
1. How/If there is a way to return to stock android firmware (like HTC's RUU)
2. Is download mode just essentially bootloader mode? HTC does it differently.
3. Any commonly known tweaks/tricks that someone coming from a different company would not know about?
4. Anything else I should know?
Thanks in advance!
Seems the Note community isn't too friendly, I don't have much info for you because I too Come from HTC. I was on Sprint and the forums were much more active / friendly. The Note3 has root, but you can do little More than remove bloat and run ad blocker apps.
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Hey all, I'm seriously considering purchasing this device and I think i should understand more about root on it before I get it. I'm currently using the AT&T HTC One X (evita, dual-core) and I've got a very good understanding of the Android OS and rooting in general, and for HTC devices, but not a grasp on Samsung devices. I've rooted and ROM'd a few in the past for friends, but I still am not 100% on them. So, coming from and HTC device and knowing a lot about android in general my main questions are...
1. How/If there is a way to return to stock android firmware (like HTC's RUU)
2. Is download mode just essentially bootloader mode? HTC does it differently.
3. Any commonly known tweaks/tricks that someone coming from a different company would not know about?
4. Anything else I should know?
Thanks in advance!
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Hey, I dont see why there was a comment about this forum being unfriendly. I think so far its one of the best out there. Guys are real appreciative to the devs for giving us root, questions get answered without unneeded comments etc.
To answer your questions i dabbled with several HTC phones and the RUU system was good. Odin is good too but a bit more complicated. There are tutorials which can help though
Like mentioned before some people have had build quality issues but thats gonna be hit or miss like any device. Personally mine hasnt had any issues, though i managed to scratch the bottom of my screen already haha purely my fault though.
Biggest thing coming from HTC is Samsung wont unlock your bootloader like HTC. I really miss the way HTC treats ya like a big boy/girl and let you decide for yourself.
One last thing you should know is this will be the best device youve ever had! Have fun with it! Any other questions lemme know
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What else do we really need? I mean you can add tons of stuff via xposed and wanum.. and people are working on themes. Even thought touchwiz blows there's no point in owning this device without the s-pen apps.
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Just kinda disappointed that it did not stand-out to me. Nothing impressive or eye-catching about it. I may wait for the Note "7" in August . . .
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Best phone I have owned yet! I also like the look of it. Second only to my first HTC, the HTC Touch. Just another perspective.
Just curious. If you dont like something, is it your norm to go look for that particular items web forum and start a thread about your dislike?
You must have a lot of free time.
Haha. I'm subscribed to this forum, as I had every intention of upgrading to the 10, just as I have in the past with every other HTC phone since the OG Evo. I am an HTC fanboy.
But, let's be realistic: the 10 is nothing fantastic. HTC has once again stuck to dull changes, that may very well bankrupt their company.
Their biggest marketing is chamferred edges? Really? Don't get me wrong, the OG Evo was an "Evolution" in technology, but it seems like HTC is done with the ground-breaking ideas it once cornered the market with.
I stay-up on all the tech articles on all forms of technology, and I truly believe HTC dropped the ball on this phone, especially with the Note 7 and iPhone 7 coming-out. It may very well be just Sammy vs. Apple very soon.
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I don't understand... You are entitled to your opinion, but I am not seeing the writing of an HTC fanboy.
So yeah, being realistic, I don't agree with you. To me this phone is fantastic! I would like to point out that being realistic is NOT comparing a phone to phones that are not released yet. That is called unrealistic. Anyways we get it, you don't like it. Cool. I am absolutely loving my 10.
If you like to root a phone, good luck with your note 7 phone.....
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Haha. I'm subscribed to this forum, as I had every intention of upgrading to the 10, just as I have in the past with every other HTC phone since the OG Evo. I am an HTC fanboy.
But, let's be realistic: the 10 is nothing fantastic. HTC has once again stuck to dull changes, that may very well bankrupt their company.
Their biggest marketing is chamferred edges? Really? Don't get me wrong, the OG Evo was an "Evolution" in technology, but it seems like HTC is done with the ground-breaking ideas it once cornered the market with.
I stay-up on all the tech articles on all forms of technology, and I truly believe HTC dropped the ball on this phone, especially with the Note 7 and iPhone 7 coming-out. It may very well be just Sammy vs. Apple very soon.
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just curious, what do u think it's lacking? what would it take to wow you?
I wouldn't say I'm blown away w/ the 10 but I do love it, but I also loved the M9...honestly I don't know what it would take to really wow me on a smartphone...I am happy w/ updated specs/hardware & software features...I think HTC made a good move streamlining & using more stock google features, running stock is no longer unbearable.
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just curious, what do u think it's lacking? what would it take to wow you?
I wouldn't say I'm blown away w/ the 10 but I do love it, but I also loved the M9...honestly I don't know what it would take to really wow me on a smartphone...I am happy w/ updated specs/hardware & software features...I think HTC made a good move streamlining & using more stock google features, running stock is no longer unbearable.
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What up omj,I've had the m7,m8,m9 on sprint and I loved them all,the only problem I had was on the m9 was that I had data connectivity stop working and I would have to reboot the phone to get it to start working again several times a day when my m9 connected to band 41.
Has there been any reports of this issue also occurring on the HTC 10?
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just curious, what do u think it's lacking? what would it take to wow you?
I wouldn't say I'm blown away w/ the 10 but I do love it, but I also loved the M9...honestly I don't know what it would take to really wow me on a smartphone...I am happy w/ updated specs/hardware & software features...I think HTC made a good move streamlining & using more stock google features, running stock is no longer unbearable.
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What up omj,I've had the m7,m8,m9 on sprint and I loved them all,the only problem I had was on the m9 was that I had data connectivity stop working and I would have to reboot the phone to get it to start working again several times a day when my m9 connected to band 41.
And because of that I had to get back on my m8,Has there been any reports of this issue also occurring on the HTC 10?
Have not had a single issue with this phone. And it has the camera we all dreamed that HTC would use in a phone.
Buy the phone that makes you happy. I for one love the 10. Can finally use sense widgets with different launchers and whole sense feel is stock Android like. I have a feeling HTC will be pushing updates a lot faster now because of it.
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I'm not dogging the phone guys. Come-on, give me some slack here . . .
But, that's the thing that everyone asks me: what would it take to "wow" me, and I almost wonder if it can no-longer be done. Android is the same thing, over & over again. Idk, I guess what I want to see from a OS standpoint is like jumping from Windows 3.1 to Windows 10. I want to see a complete refresh. And, I expect the same from HTC. Having the same exact design as the M phone's, with minor hardware upgrades does not have me salivating.
I want another revolutionary HTC phone like the OG Evo, and I truly think Samsung is coming out with something that will blow the socks off any competition.
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I'm not dogging the phone guys. Come-on, give me some slack here . . .
But, that's the thing that everyone asks me: what would it take to "wow" me, and I almost wonder if it can no-longer be done. Android is the same thing, over & over again. Idk, I guess what I want to see from a OS standpoint is like jumping from Windows 3.1 to Windows 10. I want to see a complete refresh. And, I expect the same from HTC. Having the same exact design as the M phone's, with minor hardware upgrades does not have me salivating.
I want another revolutionary HTC phone like the OG Evo, and I truly think Samsung is coming out with something that will blow the socks off any competition.
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What wow'ed me was the camera and fingerprint scanner. That was enough for me, HTC did make it hard for me to theme but now everyone can be a themer. It is a nice upgrade from the M9 to me. Dude get what you want, you have to live with it.
Dude the next big tech jump will be flexible phones. That's about it. What else can you geek into a phone? What do you wish the phone would have? It ain't happening. We are at the apex of these things and all that can be done is cosmetic. The OS is constantly changing and will always include new innovative changes. But nothing is going to drastically change for awhile. They'll get slimmer, lighter, faster, last longer in bed, but that's about it. So just pick a phone and enjoy it because in 6 months something will be out that's better any way.
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When some sort of AI and VR is is somehow built into OS, maybe then. But for now, this is what we got. And the sd820 is fast as hell, and hard to imagine it disappointing anyone
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Well, two weeks till the Note 7 is announced. I honestly hope the specs on it are not all they're cracked-up to be, as it will push me to get the 10. Sammy's have **** for support, as the bootloaders are locked. My brother and buddy both have the S7 Edge. Buddy loves it, brother says "ehh". He switches phones every couple of months though. He has his eyes on the Lenovo Phab 2 Pro with Google Tango. He's kinda like me, he gets bored quickly. I'll never switch to an iPhone though.
The next Nexus intrigues me, especially if HTC is making one . . .
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