Hello!
I am searching for affordable BT IEMs but with good sound quality and functions (vol +-,tracks,play/pause buttons)
To use with my HTC M8
I have found the Sony SBH-20 to be a good solution as I can plug my RE-272 to get BT + very good sound quality, though the RE-272 cable is too long because of the extension (you can't get stereo sound without it) and the SBH-20 is BT 3.0 and not APTX...
There are tons of Chinese branded BT earphones on Amazon like ''Soundpeats'' ''Mpow'' and ''Imarku'' that are all BT 4.0 and even sometime APTX!
But it's not like the SBH20, meaning the IEMs cant be replaced, so I have no clue which one has a good sound quality.
Please help!
I have a Samsung HS3000 thats like the sony but without the nfc pairing. Its APT-X and works pretty well. The only problem is that it is currently discontinued and I'm not sure where to find one.
lacrossev said:
I have a Samsung HS3000 thats like the sony but without the nfc pairing. Its APT-X and works pretty well. The only problem is that it is currently discontinued and I'm not sure where to find one.
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I have heard not so good things about the samsung's one, we even have them in my country (Lebanon) for 50$ but I am not convinced, they say buttons are badly implemented and volume is low.
I have found the Sony SBH50 to be a better deal than SBH20, with the Oled screen I can read music names,SMS,caller ID...and even some weather infos (though I can live without it)
Actually I am using the HTC Stereoclip in my car which is aptx and BT 2.1 and the sound quality is very good, nearly as good as cabled connection by AUX, the Sony ones are not aptx but BT 3.0, so I guess aptx + BT 2.1 = non aptx + BT 3.0 right?
I don't know if I can trust the reviews at Amazon about this earphones by ''Imarku'' but it looks like a good deal http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Wireless-Headphones-Hands-Free-Microphone/dp/B00S7ZXO9E/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
Could you not just do a search on amazon for that exact thing? I trust the amazon algorithm to output the highest quality item first in the list. Just check the reviews on there.
I have tried a couple BT devices (Jabra, Sony, etc.) with IEMs over the past few years....somewhat of an headphone/IEM audiophile (2 portable headphone amps, 1 desktop tube based headphone amp, and have lost count on IEMs and headphones...if that says anything).
Currently using these when I want stereo BT connection with my M8. Soundpeats Qy7 I believe these are one of the 'clones' mentioned above. I also use Viper4audio mod for sound shaping (on a Viper 3.2.1 ROM'd M8 running 4.4.4). On the Qy7's, I've added ComplyFoam T400s. Works very nicely, have no major complaints. Not as good as a couple other options I have around (all corded, though), but that's to be expected. My biggest gripe is that they are prone to falling out, even with the ComplyFoams inserted correctly, and using the inner ear loops. Have to re-adjust every 10-15 minutes....just while sitting. Not a major deal though.
The best sounding setup I've ever used was actually the Jabra Street2 connected to a pair of Ultimate Ears Triple.Fi 10s...but the Jabra Street2 is plagued with intermittent skips and annoyances (and it was corrected with a firmware update, but mine won't update).
I'd like to try the Jaybird Bluebuds, but those aren't considered 'budget' by any standard, and happy enough with the options I have, atm.
FWIW. HTH.
sttw1fa said:
I have tried a couple BT devices (Jabra, Sony, etc.) with IEMs over the past few years....somewhat of an headphone/IEM audiophile (2 portable headphone amps, 1 desktop tube based headphone amp, and have lost count on IEMs and headphones...if that says anything).
Currently using these when I want stereo BT connection with my M8. Soundpeats Qy7 I believe these are one of the 'clones' mentioned above. I also use Viper4audio mod for sound shaping (on a Viper 3.2.1 ROM'd M8 running 4.4.4). On the Qy7's, I've added ComplyFoam T400s. Works very nicely, have no major complaints. Not as good as a couple other options I have around (all corded, though), but that's to be expected. My biggest gripe is that they are prone to falling out, even with the ComplyFoams inserted correctly, and using the inner ear loops. Have to re-adjust every 10-15 minutes....just while sitting. Not a major deal though.
The best sounding setup I've ever used was actually the Jabra Street2 connected to a pair of Ultimate Ears Triple.Fi 10s...but the Jabra Street2 is plagued with intermittent skips and annoyances (and it was corrected with a firmware update, but mine won't update).
I'd like to try the Jaybird Bluebuds, but those aren't considered 'budget' by any standard, and happy enough with the options I have, atm.
FWIW. HTH.
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Thanks for your report.
I have read that the QY5 and QY7 were having these problems of falling which are a big deal for me as I will use them while jogging.
HIFIMAN can be perfect with SBH50 if the TRRS 3.5mm plug was compatible with it, but I doubt
vegetaleb said:
Thanks for your report.
I have read that the QY5 and QY7 were having these problems of falling which are a big deal for me as I will use them while jogging.
HIFIMAN can be perfect with SBH50 if the TRRS 3.5mm plug was compatible with it, but I doubt
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One other little tidbit.....IEMs, are nowhere near a 'one size fits all' prospect, even when the manufacturer gives you (like the QY7) 3 different sized ear loops (to hold them in your ear) and also 3 different sized ear tips (the part that inserts into the ear canal).
In my experience......owning 20-30 different sets of IEMs over the past 10 years...some manufacturers work better for me, and some just never will. Ultimate Ears (before purchase by Logitech), Sennheiser, Plantronics....almost always fit me well. Other brands (Shure, Panasonic, Sony, Onkyo, etc.), not so much.
What I'm getting at is the QY7 may not exhibit that issue at all for you, like it does for the reviews from others (including me). If you order from a place that has a liberal return policy....then you could try and see. Amazon is currently showing $36 for me....not very expensive, even by corded standard pricing....might be worth a shot.
I always take reviews with a slight grain of salt....and look at them a bit differently (than most I think). In respect to the QY7, there are 1K+ reviews, with ~75% of them being reviewed at 4 or 5 stars. Not bad. When reviewing.....participation of positive reviews don't account for nearly as much as sellers/manufactuers would want, (it's in the 10-20% range). The bad/negative reviews have a much higher participation....then, all in all, taking that into consideration....there are many more that are happy with the QY7 vs. those that aren't, but it's hard to see that. Just MHO. FWIW. YMMV. :silly:
If you really want to get into all things IEM and headphone.....Google 'Head-Fi Forums'. Then.....sorry about your wallet!
sttw1fa said:
One other little tidbit.....IEMs, are nowhere near a 'one size fits all' prospect, even when the manufacturer gives you (like the QY7) 3 different sized ear loops (to hold them in your ear) and also 3 different sized ear tips (the part that inserts into the ear canal).
In my experience......owning 20-30 different sets of IEMs over the past 10 years...some manufacturers work better for me, and some just never will. Ultimate Ears (before purchase by Logitech), Sennheiser, Plantronics....almost always fit me well. Other brands (Shure, Panasonic, Sony, Onkyo, etc.), not so much.
What I'm getting at is the QY7 may not exhibit that issue at all for you, like it does for the reviews from others (including me). If you order from a place that has a liberal return policy....then you could try and see. Amazon is currently showing $36 for me....not very expensive, even by corded standard pricing....might be worth a shot.
I always take reviews with a slight grain of salt....and look at them a bit differently (than most I think). In respect to the QY7, there are 1K+ reviews, with ~75% of them being reviewed at 4 or 5 stars. Not bad. When reviewing.....participation of positive reviews don't account for nearly as much as sellers/manufactuers would want, (it's in the 10-20% range). The bad/negative reviews have a much higher participation....then, all in all, taking that into consideration....there are many more that are happy with the QY7 vs. those that aren't, but it's hard to see that. Just MHO. FWIW. YMMV. :silly:
If you really want to get into all things IEM and headphone.....Google 'Head-Fi Forums'. Then.....sorry about your wallet!
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Lol I know Head-Fi, I bought the Hifiman IEMs thanks to their reviews.
And yeah they are a little snobbish with people paying 600$ for IEM
Reviews at Amazon are not always a good results, specially for IEM.
I bought 4 years ago a pair of these Sony http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDREX10LP-BLU-In-Ear-Headphones/dp/B004UDZ8O6 which are still like you see rated 4 stars.
I have never heard a such awful sound in all IEM till now, they were way too in the lows, nothing in the mids not highs, no details!
Why is it so well reviewed? well I figured it's because it costs only 12$ and people who like the sound quality were fans of ''only bass'' music like rap and rnb, which are the only type of music I don't listen too btw.
That's why I am afraid the QY7 models are so well reviewed for the same reasons.
I have found one review that was extremely positive for the Soundpeats QY7 in a blog and another one that smashed it in Head-Fi as a ridiculous sound quality with emphasis on lows only (like the Sony I hated)
I'm sure you know this....but just putting it out there. You can EQ with most any music player (I use PowerAmp)....and with Viper Audio's Viper4Android FX you can even EQ Spotify, Slacker, MOG, Pandora, iHeartRadio.....almost anything. It even has separate options for EQ'ing the different output methods, Bluetooth connected versus wired, for example.
Not trying to twist your arm....but $36 to try them....maybe $6 to return them if they don't work out (Amazon return policy is pretty good, just have to pay return shipping).
Sound wise, they aren't bad IMHO. You're jogging with them. Are you really going to miss the upper/lower 10-15% of the sound spectrum while jogging (as opposed to the pounding of your feet and breathing, since you are wearing IEMs)? And, even if so, you could EQ that back in.... For everything else not jogging, you've got the HiFiMan's. :good:
One other idea (and again, you probably know this if you've spent any length of time on Head-Fi)....reviews of IEMs that include the words 'clarity' and 'detail' are IEMs that are biased towards the high end vs. the low end comments of 'boom' 'bass' 'heavy' 'muddy'.
All good :highfive: Everyone searches for something different in IEMs/headphones, just like the many tastes of music itself.
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I'm sure you know this....but just putting it out there. You can EQ with most any music player (I use PowerAmp)....and with Viper Audio's Viper4Android FX you can even EQ Spotify, Slacker, MOG, Pandora, iHeartRadio.....almost anything. It even has separate options for EQ'ing the different output methods, Bluetooth connected versus wired, for example.
Not trying to twist your arm....but $36 to try them....maybe $6 to return them if they don't work out (Amazon return policy is pretty good, just have to pay return shipping).
Sound wise, they aren't bad IMHO. You're jogging with them. Are you really going to miss the upper/lower 10-15% of the sound spectrum while jogging (as opposed to the pounding of your feet and breathing, since you are wearing IEMs)? And, even if so, you could EQ that back in.... For everything else not jogging, you've got the HiFiMan's. :good:
One other idea (and again, you probably know this if you've spent any length of time on Head-Fi)....reviews of IEMs that include the words 'clarity' and 'detail' are IEMs that are biased towards the high end vs. the low end comments of 'boom' 'bass' 'heavy' 'muddy'.
All good :highfive: Everyone searches for something different in IEMs/headphones, just like the many tastes of music itself.
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Don't ask me why but I feel these Imarku http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S7ZXO9E?ref_=pe_623860_70668520 sound better than QY7-QY5, the seller told me it's totally different from the QY5 and QY7 clones you see in Amazon. BT 4.0 but no aptx (which is not a big deal as BT 3.0 and + are already good enough).
The thing is that they won't deliver to my sis in NYC before the 10th Feb with standard delivery, I will have to pay the fast delivery 13$ to be sure she get it before she meet my friend.
So the that's why I can't try and return like you said, I must be 100% sure it's a good deal for me before buying.
I have a friend who is traveling to NYC next week for 3-4 days, I live in Lebanon and if I want to do a delivery from Amazon to here it will cost me 80$ more lol.
Imarku looks like a good deal if I trust the 24 reviews but I am afraid of the diameter of the earphone itself right after the rubber part as it looks too large and could make it falls on the first jogging vibration,even do some irritation to my ear, the Sony SBH50 is a sure thing as I can plug any IEM if I don't like the ones that come with it. That's why I can't decide :crying:
Oh and btw IEM BT here are the most expensive models like Bose and Beats, even Sony doesn't bring the ''cheap'' models SBH20,50 and 52, they have only 1 model at 150$
You can find some headphones (over the ear) BT like Energysistem for 80$ but I don't see myself jogging with such big things.
Missed the fact about being in Lebanon.
I also have the SBH-50. What did you need to confirm with it? Just that a TRRS plugged IEM would work with it? Don't know that I've tried that. But, I could and let you know.
The way it's 'supposed' to work is that when a TRRS plug is in a regular stereo (3 part) receptor....the result is the same as if both parts were stereo (3 part) connection.
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Missed the fact about being in Lebanon.
I also have the SBH-50. What did you need to confirm with it? Just that a TRRS plugged IEM would work with it? Don't know that I've tried that. But, I could and let you know.
The way it's 'supposed' to work is that when a TRRS plug is in a regular stereo (3 part) receptor....the result is the same as if both parts were stereo (3 part) connection.
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The weird thing is that when I connect directly the TRRS plug into the M8 only one earphone will work, but if I plug it to the HTC BT Stereoclip with the help of a female 3.5mm to female 3.5mm, the sound is stereo like if the TRRS to TRS cable was used
Hoping the Sony SBH50 will act the same it will be awesome because the Hifiman RE-272 and 262 cable lenght with TRRS plug is short and perfect for the Sony SBH50, it's the extension cable (which act as TRRS to TRS adapter too) that add an extra 80cm!
Charging up the HBH50 and will do some comparisons with it connected to a couple different stereo IEMs, and an Apple iPhone 5s headset (the only version of IEM/buds I have with TRRS plug).
Honestly the HBH50 will be the best option, IMHO, as you can use it with any headphone.
Of course, the reason I don't always use the HBH50 is that it's a bit 'bright' with it's presentation of sound. The Jabra Street2 I have is a bit more my liking, which, while I'm no basshead....I do like accurate, tight, controlled, emphasized rhythm (percussion and bass guitar) section. But, the top end still has to be there and quite accurate as well.
Will report back, may be tomorrow....still gotta work! :silly:
Here's why the HTC M8 and M7 before it can't make a stereo sound with the TRRS of Hifiman.
It's the RE-0 one but I am sure it's the same as RE-272 and 262
So as you can see the third ring which is used by earphones+mic models as mic is used here for left channel, I wonder if we can do something app based...
I couldn't find a female TRRS to male TRS small cable yet instead of using the 80cm one.
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Highly doubt a software solution will fix this type of a hardware (the balanced iem plug wiring) issue.
FWIW, the HBH50 works great on the HTC M8 with an iPhone 5s Apple iem/bud earphone (the ones included in purchase). which has the 4 option plug, with the back connection being the mic. Just note, the mic of the headset is NOT connected. This setup uses the mic of the HBH50, but puts stereo out to the Apple iem. All keypress functions of the HBH50 work fine. Auto-reconnect upon turning the HBH50 on/off works nicely too.
And...the HBH50 does come with a iem/bud/headset on it's own that has a short cord.
HTH.
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Highly doubt a software solution will fix this type of a hardware (the balanced iem plug wiring) issue.
FWIW, the HBH50 works great on the HTC M8 with an iPhone 5s Apple iem/bud earphone (the ones included in purchase). which has the 4 option plug, with the back connection being the mic. Just note, the mic of the headset is NOT connected. This setup uses the mic of the HBH50, but puts stereo out to the Apple iem. All keypress functions of the HBH50 work fine. Auto-reconnect upon turning the HBH50 on/off works nicely too.
And...the HBH50 does come with a iem/bud/headset on it's own that has a short cord.
HTH.
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Thanks I ordered a white one from B&H (it's sexier and cheaper than the black one), you have to install the SBH50 app and the Smart connect app to use the full features right(SMS view,song names,ID callers...)?
Can you update its FW from the M8 too or you need an xperia phone?
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Thanks I ordered a white one from B&H (it's sexier and cheaper than the black one), you have to install the SBH50 app and the Smart connect app to use the full features right(SMS view,song names,ID callers...)?
Can you update its FW from the M8 too or you need an xperia phone?
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This part I'm not really sure. I use a Pebble Steel watch along with a couple custom apps for SMS viewing/alerting, caller ID and call dialing/muting/handling features.
Both Slacker and PowerAmp (music apps) worked with the HBH50 without any additional software to show the song names and artist. Same for all the ff/rw/pause/play features. Only had to pair the HBH50 and it all 'just worked'.
For updating firmware...honestly never looked into it for the HBH, but if it's like the Jabra Street2, there's probably a separate app using Windows to do it with a USB cable.
HTH.
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This part I'm not really sure. I use a Pebble Steel watch along with a couple custom apps for SMS viewing/alerting, caller ID and call dialing/muting/handling features.
Both Slacker and PowerAmp (music apps) worked with the HBH50 without any additional software to show the song names and artist. Same for all the ff/rw/pause/play features. Only had to pair the HBH50 and it all 'just worked'.
For updating firmware...honestly never looked into it for the HBH, but if it's like the Jabra Street2, there's probably a separate app using Windows to do it with a USB cable.
HTH.
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I think it's trhough the Sony SBH50 app in the Google playstore,once you install it, it will say there is a new FW.
Hopefully I will get mine in the coming days, it's still with my friend in NY and he's coming back this week
Wow these SBH50 are really good!
BT 3.0 is superior to 2.1 + APTX, sound is clear, soundstage is wide and no muffling sound typical of BT compression.
The given earphones are way too bassy, I had to lower the bass in Viper4android well under the average.
The HIFIMAN RE-272 have a superb sound with the SBH50 but as expected the 3 strips stereo plug didn't work, I have to use the extension cable making it too long for a BT device unless I clip it on my Tshirt sleeve instead of the collar.
I will try to find a shorter extension-adapter cable.
All the functions of the SBH50 are supported with the M8, MP3 tag,caller ID...
Though the sound volume is not very loud, tried it with a 3.5mm to 3.5mm in my car instead of the HTC Stereoclip and it was perhaps 40% more quiet, but with the earphones the volume is good after adding +6db thanks again to V4A, it could have take an extra 10% more.
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Hi all,
I wonder if anyone can recommend a good Bluetooth Stereo headset (max £50 although anything near the £30 mark would be a bonus).
I would prefer them to be discreet i.e. in ear as opposed to over the ears, and would need the ability to pause, skip etc. and if possible (but not essential) the ability to change the headphones.
Thanks in advance,
Fuzzmo.
fuzzmo said:
Hi all,
I wonder if anyone can recommend a good Bluetooth Stereo headset (max £50 although anything near the £30 mark would be a bonus).
I would prefer them to be discreet i.e. in ear as opposed to over the ears, and would need the ability to pause, skip etc. and if possible (but not essential) the ability to change the headphones.
Thanks in advance,
Fuzzmo.
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Sony Ds-205. Best one I tried so far.
Motorla S9s are great and you can easily find them in that price range; if you can pitch in a bit more, the S9HDs are also nice (but more expensive).
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Motorla S9s are great and you can easily find them in that price range; if you can pitch in a bit more, the S9HDs are also nice (but more expensive).
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Yup - thought about those but again would prefer them to be discreet i.e. traditional in-ears - but thanks for the suggestion...
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Sony Ds-205. Best one I tried so far.
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Ok cool - does it allow you to pause, scan, and skip tracks?
I also heard about the Jabra BT3030 - has anyone tried these with the X1?
i prefer the SONY-Ericsson HBH-BS220.....
changable Headphones, good Battery life (8h for A2DP/more than 10h of talk time), battery display, excellent sound quality and a very good noise reduction and automatic volume management (gets louder if you are in a noisy area)..... but i use it with a pair of Audeo PFE headphones from Phonak (I work there ^^)
I have a Nextlink/Invisio G5 headset. I had this headset for about 2 years now. Good headset, small discreet and because I wear glasses, the in ear fit works best for me. Earloops sux for us glasses wearers! LOL For the pricetag of around 50 bux you cant go wrong. The only negative is that in high winds, the headset really doesn't work all to well, but for the price and style it works for me who uses the headset day to day in the car with the windows up.
I am looking into the Jawbone Prime headsets in the next few weeks. They are a bit pricy but being Jawbone, I may opt for it.
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i prefer the SONY-Ericsson HBH-BS220.....
changable Headphones, good Battery life (8h for A2DP/more than 10h of talk time), battery display, excellent sound quality and a very good noise reduction and automatic volume management (gets louder if you are in a noisy area)..... but i use it with a pair of Audeo PFE headphones from Phonak (I work there ^^)
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They are very good except you can't skip/go back on tracks which is what I would like...
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I have a Nextlink/Invisio G5 headset. I had this headset for about 2 years now. Good headset, small discreet and because I wear glasses, the in ear fit works best for me. Earloops sux for us glasses wearers! LOL For the pricetag of around 50 bux you cant go wrong. The only negative is that in high winds, the headset really doesn't work all to well, but for the price and style it works for me who uses the headset day to day in the car with the windows up.
I am looking into the Jawbone Prime headsets in the next few weeks. They are a bit pricy but being Jawbone, I may opt for it.
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I'll investigate these a little further. Am tempted by the Jabra BT3030 or the DS-205 that Jack mentioned. Thanks to all who replied (although if there are more suggestions then feel free to list them).
fuzzmo said:
They are very good except you can't skip/go back on tracks which is what I would like...
I'll investigate these a little further. Am tempted by the Jabra BT3030 or the DS-205 that Jack mentioned. Thanks to all who replied (although if there are more suggestions then feel free to list them).
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Trust me. I tried many BT stereo headsets (Sony: DS-220,205,970,980, Clip D Radio, Jabra (forget what model) ..etc) and ONLY Sony's gives the best sound quality (sound quality among Sony's are similar). DS 220 and DS 205 are basically the same with pause, scan, and skip tracks support on 205 only. Jabra BT3030 is not 3.5mm jack which will give you headache in finding a good headphone.
And one added benefit on Sony's BT headset is you can charge while using it. (Other brands will stupidly turn off if you try to charge the battery).
DS-205 + EX500SL match your X1 nicely
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Trust me. I tried many BT stereo headsets (Sony: DS-220,205,970,980, Clip D Radio, Jabra (forget what model) ..etc) and ONLY Sony's gives the best sound quality (sound quality among Sony's are similar). DS 220 and DS 205 are basically the same with pause, scan, and skip tracks support on 205 only. Jabra BT3030 is not 3.5mm jack which will give you headache in finding a good headphone.
And one added benefit on Sony's BT headset is you can charge while using it. (Other brands will stupidly turn off if you try to charge the battery).
DS-205 + EX500SL match your X1 nicely
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None of the headsets you listed have anything on this:
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=502413
The DS980 is not bad...but still it doesn't sound great. It's probably some sort of limitation with the bluetooth transfer rate, as it still sounds only decent after you replace the earbuds with some higher quality ones.
Also the Sony ones have NimH batteries as far as I remember and their battery life is pretty mediocre.
Of course if you're not after great sound quality...any of the ones above will do
jackleung said:
Trust me. I tried many BT stereo headsets (Sony: DS-220,205,970,980, Clip D Radio, Jabra (forget what model) ..etc) and ONLY Sony's gives the best sound quality (sound quality among Sony's are similar). DS 220 and DS 205 are basically the same with pause, scan, and skip tracks support on 205 only. Jabra BT3030 is not 3.5mm jack which will give you headache in finding a good headphone.
And one added benefit on Sony's BT headset is you can charge while using it. (Other brands will stupidly turn off if you try to charge the battery).
DS-205 + EX500SL match your X1 nicely
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Hehe I think you may well have persuaded me on the 205 (and it's £50 online) - out with the Credit Card - and thanks for the heads up on the Jabra, that is one thing a lot of people don't mention. Gonna pair these with my Denon AH-C700s (a bit old but burned in and give me a wonderful deep Bass - until I can save up for the Sennheiser IE8's!)
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None of the headsets you listed have anything on this:
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=502413
The DS980 is not bad...but still it doesn't sound great. It's probably some sort of limitation with the bluetooth transfer rate, as it still sounds only decent after you replace the earbuds with some higher quality ones.
Also the Sony ones have NimH batteries as far as I remember and their battery life is pretty mediocre.
Of course if you're not after great sound quality...any of the ones above will do
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I am after the best sound quality my £50 budget would allow. If money wasn't and issue they'd be right up there as I am sure they'd sound great but they're more than a little out of my price range
EDIT: Hmmm £87 online - should I???? Arrrgggghhh!!!! More thinking to do.....
i use motorola s9 while running on the treadmill, works out nicely because it's light and doesn't squeeze your head
megacrazy said:
None of the headsets you listed have anything on this:
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=502413
The DS980 is not bad...but still it doesn't sound great. It's probably some sort of limitation with the bluetooth transfer rate, as it still sounds only decent after you replace the earbuds with some higher quality ones.
Also the Sony ones have NimH batteries as far as I remember and their battery life is pretty mediocre.
Of course if you're not after great sound quality...any of the ones above will do
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The ear buds are not replacable on the DS980 without major surgery, or did you just mean the rubber bits? DS980 does not have a 3.5mm jack. I have HBH-DS220 and are happy with it, I use it with some etymotic ER6i which are good too, as an added bonus they can be plugged directly into the x1 if you have forgotten to charge up the DS220 too, something else you cant do if your headphones are permantly attached to the BT headset.
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The ear buds are not replacable on the DS980 without major surgery, or did you just mean the rubber bits? DS980 does not have a 3.5mm jack. I have HBH-DS220 and are happy with it, I use it with some etymotic ER6i which are good too, as an added bonus they can be plugged directly into the x1 if you have forgotten to charge up the DS220 too, something else you cant do if your headphones are permantly attached to the BT headset.
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Yeah I was talking about major surgery
Actually the ear buds seem to be pretty good because once wired, they produce excellent sound. Hence the conclusion that it's something with the bluetooth module that's limiting. It seems like it's limited to medium quality transfer rate or something.
Either way, I used the DS-980 for a year and had no issues with it. In terms of sound quality though, the one I posted simply beats them. Again, if excellent sound quality is not an issue, go with any of the ones scote suggested.
Need help
I have the choice between two headsets:
1. DS 980
2. DS 205
what is important to me, is compatibility with X1 and battery life
Hello people from the planet earth=P just joking! Try the Jabra BT3030 Bluetooth Stereo Headset! I have it and i LOVE it!
I'm thinking about buying some new headphones to go with my HD2 for train journeys. The existing ones are actually not too bad quality for bundled 'phones, but they are not very sound-proof, so if you want to use them on the London Underground you can't hear anything!
I was therefore thinking about some Etymotic HF5 'phones which have very good acoustic isolation. Has anyone tried these with the HD2? Or can anyone suggest some alternatives?
(For people who want a microphone, there is an equivalent, the HF2, which has one).
Oh, I should also have said that I hate headphones which are bass-heavy. Descriptions like "accurate", "neutral", "detailed" and "transparent" tend to attract me. I also quite like 'phones that emphasise the mid-range. But emphasis on bass puts me right off.
QuietComfort
I have used since long the "QuietComfort 3 Acoustic Noise Cancelling" headphones from Bose with my iPod and now also with my HD2. They are especially useful on planes and noisy environments, but also good for listening to speach on the phone. For the last you'll need the "QC3 mobile communications kit", which allows you to use the microphone in the cable.
I have used them to participate in long calls during the last weeks and they always feel comfortable.
I know they are not very cheap, but after having tested 3 or 4 different ones, this one is still my favourite.
I like a bit of extra bass kick so I have the Etymotic ER6i's. Noise cancelling is superb - I use most days on commute into London and whenever I fly. Customer support is excellent even if in the USA. My cable became faulty near the plug end and I'd gone over the 1 year warranty by a month or so. No problem - they gave me a returns code and it just cost me a few quid postage out to the states. New cables and plug, good as new on return.
I recently have modified the htc headset that was shipped with my leo. But it surely doesn't replace a high quality headset...
see wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Leo%2FLEOHTCInEarHeadphones
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cgeboers said:
I have used since long the "QuietComfort 3 Acoustic Noise Cancelling" headphones from Bose with my iPod and now also with my HD2. They are especially useful on planes and noisy environments, but also good for listening to speach on the phone.
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I am somewhat torn by high-end noise-cancelling 'phones. Can't decide if the sound quality and comfort are worth the bulk, or if I really ought to go for something I can fit in my pocket....
If anyone is looking for cheaper noise-cancelling 'phones, btw, these are an absolute steal at £50 (RRP £160!): http://www.play.com/Electronics/Ele...ctive-Noise-Reduction-Headphones/Product.html
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I like a bit of extra bass kick so I have the Etymotic ER6i's. Noise cancelling is superb - I use most days on commute into London and whenever I fly. Customer support is excellent even if in the USA. My cable became faulty near the plug end and I'd gone over the 1 year warranty by a month or so. No problem - they gave me a returns code and it just cost me a few quid postage out to the states. New cables and plug, good as new on return.
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As far as I'm aware, Etymotic 'phones aren't noise-cancelling, they simply block out noise by sealing your ears, which is quite different.
As I loathe 'phones that emphasise bass, it sounds like I might be well advised to steer clear of these! But thanks for the info (on Etymotic as well as on the ER6i).
hi,
i first tried the bose quite comfort3, very impressive sound expierience. the size, is way to big to travel/transport them around, its more a home device in my eyes. if the battery is empty, it stops working completly, and you need carry the bose charger to load it. the price of 300€ is simply more then i can/want effort.
the next headphone i tried was the Sennheiser PXC 250-II . they are made for traveling, so you can fold them away. the electronic and the batteries are in an extra case that can be clipped to the belt wich makes the headset lighter weight. the device is powered by 2 'aaa' batteries, and the headset needs the power only for the noise cancelation. wich means you have sound even with no batteries inserted. and the price is aroung 140€.
im travelling a lot by plane and both headsets do a brilliant job on noise reduction.
mad.
*EDIT* as i wrote this i saw bose now also have a more travelling like headset quitecomfort15, wich is using a single 'aaa' battery.
If you want portable and noise cancelling, I have a pair of Sony MDRNC22B Noise cancelling headphones and they are fab. good natural sound quality and the battery lasts for about 50 hours.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-MDRNC2...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1262974379&sr=1-1
Anyone have experience of the Nokia Portabel Handsfree Stereo Bluetooth BH-905? Been interesting in them for a while but haven't been able to try them yet.
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I recently have modified the htc headset that was shipped with my leo. But it surely doesn't replace a high quality headset...
see wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Leo%2FLEOHTCInEarHeadphones
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Nice guide!!!
I bought some sennheiser MM50ip headphones so that I could it for handsfree, it works but not 100% as they dont have the buttons for channing tracks like the supplied ones. Call quality and sound is great though.
Now do I dare rip them apart to mod them to my likeing
Oh and check out this great site www.fakeheadphones.com if you intend to buy headphones over the internet esp ebay/amazon market place..... its scary how these fake headphones looks so close to the originals
Hey guys, I am looking for a good pair of noise cancelling headphones to use with my iPod touch. I travel long distances every day in the train and seem to have misplaced my old headphones. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
P.S
I wouldn't mind headphones with some extra bass.
For extra bass get vmoda heasdphpnes. However I use klipsch image s4 and can just use the bass eq and wont hear any background noise on the subway. Both are in-ear headphones.
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Get the nuForce NE-6. End of story
http://www.amazon.com/NuForce-NE-6-earphones-NE-7M-without/dp/B002OR6OFW
I'm curious about voice calls. With the noise-cancellation, do you find that you speak too loudly? I know I tend to have that problem, in general, when wearing headphones. I am very interested in getting good noise-canceling headphones (preferably bluetooth) to use in my all-day conference calls from my sometimes-noisy house. But I am concerned about the talking too loud problem.
Buy beats by Dr. Dre studio hd
Simply awesome
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The only dock I could find on internet was this and it's available for preorder and looks great IMO. Anyone ordered from this company before?
http://www.4u-mobi.com/onlineshop/index.php
Idk those prices plus shipping is rape-age
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Idk those prices plus shipping is rape-age
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Are you looking at the same website? They do worldwide free shipping so there is no 'plus shipping'. Also 27$ or 17£ for a desktop cradle is very reasonable.
Yeah, $31 for the one with a second battery charger, with free shipping is still almost half what I paid for a Nexus One dock from Google (though the N1 dock had more features (bluetooth speakers)).
With the huge tacky logo on the front of it, it looks like a $5 item....
at least it's something, doesn't look like an OEM dock is coming out at all
Count me in for this.
I wonder how long before this becomes actually available for shipment. I'm okay with the price, just not with the waiting.
I was told by the seller that the dock will be shipping in the middle of march this year.
It looks awesome I just wish it had headset throughput.
Ideally, I'd like to use this on my nightstand and I usually listen to TuneIn Radio when I go to bed. This will block that. Bummer.
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It looks awesome I just wish it had headset throughput.
Ideally, I'd like to use this on my nightstand and I usually listen to TuneIn Radio when I go to bed. This will block that. Bummer.
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I always stream it over bluetooth.. It's a lot easier
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I always stream it over bluetooth.. It's a lot easier
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I have mixed feelings about listening to music over Bluetooth. On one hand, as a person who finds a lot of wireless accessories pretty stupid, headphones are one thing I definitely think can benefit from going cordless. On the other, sound quality over Bluetooth just isn't as good as in wired headphones, even to a decidedly non-audiophile such as myself. Also, I find the range of Bluetooth doesn't really allow for as much freedom of movement as I would wish in some cases, and every stereo headset I've tried is extremely sensitive to motion (such as when running with your phone in your pocket) and/or obstruction (such as turning your head to look at something in such a way as to place your body mass between the phone and the headset receiver). In either case, the playback stutters quite a bit.
My feeling is that Bluetooth technology isn't quite where it needs to be for music playback yet. Unless you're in a situation where you really need/want them, I think most people are still better off with wired headphones. Give it a year or two for quality to go up and prices to go down and it might be a different story.
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I have mixed feelings about listening to music over Bluetooth. On one hand, as a person who finds a lot of wireless accessories pretty stupid, headphones are one thing I definitely think can benefit from going cordless. On the other, sound quality over Bluetooth just isn't as good as in wired headphones, even to a decidedly non-audiophile such as myself. Also, I find the range of Bluetooth doesn't really allow for as much freedom of movement as I would wish in some cases, and every stereo headset I've tried is extremely sensitive to motion (such as when running with your phone in your pocket) and/or obstruction (such as turning your head to look at something in such a way as to place your body mass between the phone and the headset receiver). In either case, the playback stutters quite a bit.
My feeling is that Bluetooth technology isn't quite where it needs to be for music playback yet. Unless you're in a situation where you really need/want them, I think most people are still better off with wired headphones. Give it a year or two for quality to go up and prices to go down and it might be a different story.
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I use http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/07/12/altec_lansing_t515_wireless_speaker_headset_system/ (just the headset part.. speaker is crap) with a sennheiser earphone and the audio quality is excellent and the range is not bad either. I get about 10 meters without much trouble.
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I use http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/07/12/altec_lansing_t515_wireless_speaker_headset_system/ (just the headset part.. speaker is crap) with a sennheiser earphone and the audio quality is excellent and the range is not bad either. I get about 10 meters without much trouble.
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Well, 10 meters is the range of bluetooth.
I use a Jabra BT3030. Good thing about it is I can plug in any earphone I want and if I prefer to use a larger speaker, I can just plug that too.
http://store.androidcentral.com/sei...m=shopping_engine&utm_campaign=GoogleProducts
The Innodock Jr for the Desire/Nexus One works perfectly for the Nexus S and it leaves a lot of room for you to add a case and still be able to use the dock.
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http://store.androidcentral.com/sei...m=shopping_engine&utm_campaign=GoogleProducts
The Innodock Jr for the Desire/Nexus One works perfectly for the Nexus S and it leaves a lot of room for you to add a case and still be able to use the dock.
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Oh, nice. Do you have a picture of the Nexus S in the dock? By the way, is the dock heavy? I worry about the dock tipping over. Thanks.
RemoteSojourner said:
I use http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/07/12/altec_lansing_t515_wireless_speaker_headset_system/ (just the headset part.. speaker is crap) with a sennheiser earphone and the audio quality is excellent and the range is not bad either. I get about 10 meters without much trouble.
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I'm happy for you, but not everyone wants to pay $200+ for headphones.
zorak950 said:
I have mixed feelings about listening to music over Bluetooth. On one hand, as a person who finds a lot of wireless accessories pretty stupid, headphones are one thing I definitely think can benefit from going cordless. On the other, sound quality over Bluetooth just isn't as good as in wired headphones, even to a decidedly non-audiophile such as myself. Also, I find the range of Bluetooth doesn't really allow for as much freedom of movement as I would wish in some cases, and every stereo headset I've tried is extremely sensitive to motion (such as when running with your phone in your pocket) and/or obstruction (such as turning your head to look at something in such a way as to place your body mass between the phone and the headset receiver). In either case, the playback stutters quite a bit.
My feeling is that Bluetooth technology isn't quite where it needs to be for music playback yet. Unless you're in a situation where you really need/want them, I think most people are still better off with wired headphones. Give it a year or two for quality to go up and prices to go down and it might be a different story.
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Seems to work excellently with my car stereo. The data throughput of Bluetooth is more than enough to handle music.
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I'm happy for you, but not everyone wants to pay $200+ for headphones.
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For someone who cares so much about sound quality, I'm surprised you have not spent close to or even more than $200 on a pair of wired headphones even.
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I'm happy for you, but not everyone wants to pay $200+ for headphones.
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My earphones are CX95 which I bought for about £60 (I also use other Sennheiser models which are about £15-£30) so I am not sure how you got 200+
The bluetooth headset itself was £15.
I'm looking for in-ear headphones, compatible with HD2. I have found these:
http://cgi.ebay.de/In-Ear-Stereo-He...80633234?pt=Handy_Zubehör&hash=item2303625c92
Would button and mic work with HD2?
Have anyone managed to find in-ear headphones with 3 buttons like HTC ones are?
Yes and as the ear plugs are just plugged in you can replace them with better ones if you wished
I advise against this earphones...it seems very poor quality...
Can you recommend ones then? I'm looking for in-ear headphones that with HD2 compatible controls.
Hey,
Don't know if anyone had answered your last post or if you got any headphones in the end.
The main thing you need to ask yourself is whether you want to have the functionality of the buttons on the headphones to control the phone (like answer/end call, skip music track etc.). Or whether you would rather get a pair of headphones that are of higher quality for music listening purposes.
Unfortunately, I doubt you will be able to find any decent quality ones with integrated controls (without spending a lot on a named brand like klipsch or b&o etc).
So really it is a personal decision on how much you are willing to spend, how comfortable you want them to be and for what purpose you are using them for.
There are many types of headphones/earphones to choose from, so you need to decide what's best for you.
Being an audio engineer, I go for quality. I own a pair of Klipsch Image X10i earphones (the ones that go inside your ear) for use when I am wanting to make calls etc as well as listen to music. The quality is great and the controls are useful. However, if I'm on a train or something and want to just listen to music and am not expecting calls, I have a pair of supra-aural headphones (the ones that sit on your ear) and also a pair of circum-aural headphones (the ones that enclose your ears). I have a pair of Sennheisers and a pair of Koss. Both of these have their advantages/disadvantages and are comfy in different ways.
Of course, if you're not bothered about audio quality, then there are plenty of cheap versions of the original HTC earphones. You need to make sure that they have a 4 pin connection and are NOT designed for blackberry or LG as these won't work (the pins are in a different configuration).
I hope that helps!
If you need any more guidance, let me know - I'll subscribe to the thread.
Seiphr
I have bought philips headphones in our local shop. I'm not picky about audio quality, but i don't want headphones to tear apart after some time of listening. And I'm happy with build quality of ones i bought.
I don't really need HTC buttons, but they are handy and while i planed to buy those headphones from the start, i have decided to have first peek at ebay to see if something decent with HTC buttons is there.
Anyway, thanks for your help.
Curious what users are doing for audio. Wired eaphone options are pretty thin if you're connecting via USB but they provide the range that Bluetooth can't match. I've had mixed results, what's your take?
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Curious what users are doing for audio. Wired eaphone options are pretty thin if you're connecting via USB but they provide the range that Bluetooth can't match. I've had mixed results, what's your take?
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I am only using Buds series for a while as they came free with the S-series in Australia when pre-ordered. Very convenient.
Buds+ you need a set if for nothing other than phone calls. That's all I use on my 10+
Using the c port for audio output all the time is going to screw up cables and maybe the port it's self. Tell Samsung to not jack off
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Curious what users are doing for audio. Wired eaphone options are pretty thin if you're connecting via USB but they provide the range that Bluetooth can't match. I've had mixed results, what's your take?
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1. I use a USB C to 3.5mm convertor and good wired haedphones (with a wider soundstage and instrument separation) for immersive listening at home (usually in the eveing after dinner, before I go to bed). I use the dongle mainly becasue I already have wired headphones that I don't want collecting dust - and I don't want to spend a lot on larger wireless headphones when a relatively cheap adapter can do the same thing for me.
2. Galaxy Buds live for use during the workday for calls and casual music streaming while going running in the morning, or other outdoor activity. Very comfortable for long use, strong reliable connection and good mic quality for phone calls. Easy to carry around without a tangle of wires.
If I did not have a pre-existing collection of earphones, and was given a gun-to-the-head choice of just one device, I'd choose the wireless earbuds over the wired ones, simply because it fits my needs the best. YMMV.
The big Buds+ thread:
Galaxy Buds, Buds+ Set up
Install the Galaxy Wearable and Galaxy Buds software. Update software and Buds firmware, this is important because the old versions sound sucks. Turn on/go to Developer Options in Settings and on the Bluetooth Codec setting toggle on Samsung's...
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I haven't used to Buds Pro so I can't comment on them but their body is a different design from the Buds and Buds+. The Pros may not stay in as well though.
The Buds/Buds+ are identical dimension wise.
The wings and ear pieces are interchangeable between these two models.
They don't fall out, ever. For calls you can put them in loosely and they still stay put. The Buds+ bring longer battery life (very long) and better sound Q than the Buds, I have both.
With respect to audio listening devices I'm compelled more towards sound quality than convenience. Buds are developing as the market grows with improved acoustic profiles and software integration for codecs. They also provide a higher flexibility for physical variations like exercise and two way communications.
The biggest drawbacks are the diminished range of audio signals, reliance on the Bluetooth subsystems and charging metrics. In my youth and midlife I spent years in a variety of bands. Rock, alternative, blues, techno and even country. Lots of nights preforming live gigs and even more time in studio sessions. As a result my listening skills are pretty well developed.
Not a big believer in high priced units knowing a $50 set can put a pair of $300 sennheisers to shame. When I surrendered my S10 Plus to my wife I started researching wired units with USB Type C Connectors. Dongles while useful for retaining a good 3.5 jack unit are just another link in the chain so I've dismissed them.
What I've found is there isn't much to chose from, just a handful. Much to my dismay 1MORE Quad Driver, which offers pristine audio quality have yet to expand beyond it's 3.5 jack. So I settled on the next best option which had to deliver a solid bottom and midranges, which most units lack, they're too tinny and treble focused.
In the interim I found a decent set of Samsung/AKG Type C noise cancelling earphones. They no longer manufacture them but a few sellers in South Korea still stock the item. Not expensive at $70 USD and the sound quality is a solid 8 on a scale to 10. Strong response in all ranges and very comfortable in my ears, YMMV. Another plus is the noise cancelling doesn't sap a lot of power which can lead to reduced volume. In conjunction with Poweramp and some solid tunes, life is good!
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With respect to audio listening devices I'm compelled more towards sound quality than convince. Buds are improving as the market grows with improved acoustic profiles and software integration for codecs. They also provide a higher flexibility for physical variations like exercise and two way communications.
The biggest drawbacks are the diminished range of audio signals, reliance on the Bluetooth subsystems and charging metrics. In my youth and midlife I spent years in a variety of bands. Rock, alternative, blues, techno and even country. Lots of nights preforming live gigs and even more time in studio sessions. As a result my listening skills are pretty well developed.
Not a big believer in high priced units knowing a $50 set can put a pair of $300 sennheisers to shame. When I surrendered my S10 Plus to my wife I started researching wired units with USB Type C Connectors. Dongles while useful for retaining a good 3.5 jack unit are just another link in the chain so I've dismissed them.
What I've found is there isn't much to chose from, just a handful. Much to my dismay 1MORE Quad Driver, which offers pristine audio quality have yet to expand beyond it's 3.5 jack. So I settled on the next best option which had to deliver a solid bottom and midranges, which most units lack, they're too tinny and treble focused.
In the interim I found a decent set of Samsung/AKG Type C noise cancelling earphones. They no longer manufacture them but a few sellers in South Korea still stock the item. Not expensive at $70 USD and the sound quality is a solid 8 on a scale to 10. Strong response in all ranges and very comfortable in my ears, YMMV. Used in conjunction with Poweramp and some solid tunes, life is good!
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Poweramp... whatever earphones or buds you use, use Poweramp to dial them in. I would hate my Buds without it for listening to music.
It's graphic equalizer is second to none.
Poweramp has a steep learning curve but is extremely configurable. Applicable only if you have a music database.
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Poweramp... whatever earphones or buds you use, use Poweramp to dial them in. I would hate my Buds without it for listening to music.
It's graphic equalizer is second to none.
Poweramp has a steep learning curve but is extremely configurable. Applicable only if you have a music database.
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One badass feature Poweramp has which other platforms lack is the preamp slider which actuates as a great gain function, it's versatility second to none.
Guys aren't you a little concerned about the safety of the TrueWireless (TW) buds? I mean, the fact that they have a direct wireless connection passing directly trough your brain, doesn't feels a bit weird.. Something about it seems fishy to me when I think of limiting radiation exposure.
I use Bluetooth headphones where the BT receiver is under my neck. The cable is separately connected to the KZ ZS6 which have 4 speakers in each headphone. The sound is out of this world.
Most buds employ direct wireless connectivity. Does the BT signal cause damage to the brain? Ask an ENT Specialist but the buds don't transmit BT, they recieve it. Excess volume is the number one harmful side effect in near tympanic audio signals. My question is if you're going to use a wired connection in your BT configuration, why not use wired earphones? The audio quality is superior and you won't need to worry about BT scrambling your brain.
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Most buds employ direct wireless connectivity. Does the BT signal cause damage to the brain? Ask an ENT Specialist but the buds don't transmit BT, they recieve it. Excess volume is the number one harmful side effect in near tympanic audio signals. My question is if you're going to use a wired connection in your BT configuration, why not use wired earphones? The audio quality is superior and you won't need to worry about BT scrambling your brain.
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Well actually the wired vs wireless quality is not something to even discuss. The above headphones I mentioned, eat any other headphones I have ever tried for breakfast when it comes to quality.
The buds do receive and emit BT and it is happening right next your ears. The bigger issue I mean is that the 2 TW headphones are directly communicating with each other trough some sort of electromagnetic connection that I had never heard of until I googled "how do True Wireless headphones work." That direct connection is not BT and it is emitting and receiving at the same time, directly trough your brain... You feel me?
No one is talking about that and no one is assuring us it is safe. It is almost as if it is magic and no one should be even thinking of it.
The BT headphones with a cable that I showed above, have their BT antenna in the little black thingy you see on the pic, it is usually hanging under my neck, which is at least 20+cm from my brain.
I am aware we cannot fully escape radiation but we could at least try to limit the artificial type a little bit when we can. Just my 2 cents.
Yeah the massive amounts EM radiation that Nicola Tesla subjected himself to killed him at the early age of 86
If a little low energy EM is all it takes to TKO today's whatevers... good luck with the hard stuff.
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Well actually the wired vs wireless quality is not something to even discuss. The above headphones I mentioned, eat any other headphones I have ever tried for breakfast when it comes to quality.
The buds do receive and emit BT and it is happening right next your ears. The bigger issue I mean is that the 2 TW headphones are directly communicating with each other trough some sort of electromagnetic connection that I had never heard of until I googled "how do True Wireless headphones work." That direct connection is not BT and it is emitting and receiving at the same time, directly trough your brain... You feel me?
No one is talking about that and no one is assuring us it is safe. It is almost as if it is magic and no one should be even thinking of it.
The BT headphones with a cable that I showed above, have their BT antenna in the little black thingy you see on the pic, it is usually hanging under my neck, which is at least 20+cm from my brain.
I am aware we cannot fully escape radiation but we could at least try to limit the artificial type a little bit when we can. Just my 2 cents.
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Near Field Magnetic Induction (NFMI) is the wave you're concerned with, not the BT wave. It's been around a lot longer than BT, first used in hearing aids decades ago. Can't say if it's harmful but I'm sure studies have been done. You really like your setup, whatever works for you but I won't agree sound quality is capable of matching a good wired set. BT doesn't have the range wired sets offer, regardless of how you tweak the codecs, the conductivity is inherently deficient.
I have a pair of Shure se846 earbuds that I connect via the Shure USB/DAC cable and it sounds absolutely fabulous when listening to anything CD quality and above. For convenience sake however, I use the Sony WF 1000XM4s and they sound really just as good. Especially with the LDAC codec.
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I have a pair of Shure se846 earbuds that I connect via the Shure USB/DAC cable and it sounds absolutely fabulous when listening to anything CD quality and above. For convenience sake however, I use the Sony WF 1000XM4s and they sound really just as good. Especially with the LDAC codec.
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The biggest problem with S21 Ultra Codecs is they squashed aptX Adaptive, aptX Low Latency and aptX HD even though the Snap 888 SoC supports it. The reason, they're pushing their own Scalable Codec, Galaxy Buds and they don't want to pay Qualcomm's licensing fees. The aptX Codec available on the device is an older, vanilla version, not much different than SBC. Cheap bastards!
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The biggest problem with S21 Ultra Codecs is they squashed aptX Adaptive, aptX Low Latency and aptX HD even though the Snap 888 SoC supports it. The reason, they're pushing their own Scalable Codec, Galaxy Buds and they don't want to pay Qualcomm's licensing fees. The aptX Codec available on the device is an older, vanilla version, not much different than SBC. Cheap bastards!
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You got LDAC and SSC. Get the Buds+ and be happy. I'm using them right now, been using them for the last couple hours... their battery life is really long and they sound good. They link up seamlessly with a Samsung phone. Samsung actually got it near perfect... finally
Or jump ship to the newest Sony with the codecs you want plus a 3.5 mm jack.
Given a choice I'll take a vinyl over a cd or anything digital every day of the week. Why, because it's direct sound, BT just gets in the way. The Samsung/AKG ANC's are dirt cheap with great response throughout the entire range.
Was listening to some old tunes, The Best of Simple Minds. What separates them from others is their dynamic composition and arrangement. As a musician when I listen to a song, I feel the song as a whole, but I'm paying much closer attention to each of the individual instruments. When you can hear the sound of the guitar pick hitting strings, not the reverberation of strings, the click of the pick, your know your audio signal is tight.
When I upgrade it's going to be wired with 4 drivers, likely the 1More Quad Driver, may have to deal with a dongle. There's virtually zero overlap of frequencies. Put that set in your ears and you'll throw rocks at any BT device on the planet.
varcor said:
The biggest problem with S21 Ultra Codecs is they squashed aptX Adaptive, aptX Low Latency and aptX HD even though the Snap 888 SoC supports it. The reason, they're pushing their own Scalable Codec, Galaxy Buds and they don't want to pay Qualcomm's licensing fees. The aptX Codec available on the device is an older, vanilla version, not much different than SBC. Cheap bastards!
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Yeah, I totally agree there. Don't know why they did this but at least I can use LDAC and it sounds even better than aptX
Buds+ is mandatory for a Samsung phone if for nothing other than calls. Music sounds pretty good using SSC.
Now the real bad news...
No sealed system can faithfully reproduce the sound stage. You must have a minimum of 2 stereo open air speakers*. The stereo (or more) acoustic waves need open air to interact with one another to reproduce the sound stage. This is what creates the electronically coupled sound stage ie where it was recorded to your listening area.
Headsets and earbuds destroy the sound stage.
Even DTS and Dolby headphone solutions don't come close to the complex sound stage an open air system reproduces.
Read it and weep ( you will when you hear the difference).
*minimum 12 - 50,000+ hz frequency response for optimum sound stage