Hey All,
Searched for awhile online, and can't find a definitive answer, so here goes-
I enjoy the auto-switch to HDMI-CEC with the CC (HDMI 3), but I can't get it to switch back to the original HDMI source (cable box/HDMI 1) after I'm done streaming from the CC.
From searching around, it seems as if the AnyNet+ (samsung's version of HDMI-CEC) only allows the "Look at me" switch, and can't go back, unless of course the other unit has CEC (which the cable box doesn't). Is there any way around this? It's great to not have to use the remote when going to stream something, but it's a bit silly that I still have to use the original remote to get back to the original source.
Thanks for any thoughts.
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As stated in the (www .blogtalkradio .com/motodev) Q&A session yesterday with Motorola about the Droid X, in answer to the question asked at the 29:00 mark,
"The only time that we are enabling the HDMI driver on the device is when you are in the gallery mode. [...] The HDMI driver is not active any time outside the gallery," where the "gallery mode" is their included photo/video viewer.
I'm wondering how true that is...
(www .pcmag .com/article2/0,2817,2365630,00.asp ) PCMag's review stated that the youtube player and blockbuster player were not able to use the hdmi out at all.
As seen in (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703111 ) this thread the evo 4g, which also has hdmi out, is capable of allowing any app that uses VideoView to utilize that output, but that's supported by the phone maker.
Will that usability be true on the droid x?
Could we figure out a way to bypass any limitations Motorola includes, and maybe even send (an upscaled version of) the main screen through the hdmi (not just video but anything we could put on the phone's screen)?
I was just at a motorola event and we were able to run nfl mobile through the hdmi.
Yes the tv was in an ice sculpture and yes it was connected to a droid x via the hdmi cable
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That's great news, thanks for letting us know!
The more apps with handshakes to the hdmi-out we have, the better for us to get it working completely openly
The whole media-center-and-phone-in-my-pocket is just a great idea imho...
With the hdmi out we could:
put any videos and pictures from any source up on your home tv
connect it to the projector at work and give presentations
go with a few bluetooth controllers to your friend's house and play multiplayer (even online) games on their tv with minimal cords to deal with
maybe even video-chat would be possible if you set up the phone with the camera facing out in front of the tv
... ok, that last one sounds like a pretty lame way to get video-chat, but it would save on having to have a computer/monitor/webcam when you wanted to
Of course this is all far into the future stages of development on the phone, but I'd rather create buzz and excitement to build up a developer and user base
Talked to a moto rep, said it might have been a beta device as licensing is what will prevent this thing from being turned on when it hits consumers hands. At least we know it can be done.
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no fun, i'm not much of a C programmer, but if it's just enabling or disabling the driver, I guess it comes down to the security on the phone. If you go into root, I suppose we should be able to start the driver. The only thing I fear is if the driver is signed and only a signed application can access it, then I think we might be SOL
I'm not particularly worried... if we get access to enough apps that use the hdmi driver, we should be able to document enough of the method.
I believe while the hardware can reject unsigned versions of the OS (roms), most apps are self-signed (see developer. android. com/guide/publishing/app-signing.html) so that shouldn't be a problem. We just have to figure out which hoops to jump through (following the programs that use hdmi) to get it to work. They'd have to leave the hoops pretty wide open or else risk the need of updating the thing every time a new app is released that needs to get through.
This is a mixed bag here. The reason why Motorola limited the hdmi driver is likely so they didn't have to put a fps cap on the droid x like htc put on the evo.
This is pure speculation here but I would imagine the way that the evo devs are going to "truly" overcome the fps cap is to mimic the droid x behavior of toggling on and off the hdmi drivers so that the evo can access up to 60 fps.
You guys are on the other end of the boat where by default your fps won't be artificially capped, but you likely won't have full access to the hdmi drivers at first.
I think the sweet spot for both phones is finding a happy medium where we can toggle the hdmi drivers at will.
Any news on this? I would really like to get rockplayer and youtube working through hdmi. In fact, I would like to get the entire OS through HDMI and possibly a bluetooth keyboard and mouse working so I can use it as a little media center pc.
2 way control
I would lime to see this pushed to.the level of controlling the phone through an hdmi touchscreen.
I thought we would be able to see pandora and other apps through the hdmi...This sucks the way it is...also does anyone think the sound is terrible through the hdmi?
There is no point int he HDMi at all if you can only use it for your pictures and your videos from the phone's camera.
They need to make it show what you see on the phone, but on the screen
I remember there was a windows mobiel program that popped up a small window on your desktop that let you see your phone's screen and interact with it on your monitor when connected through usb
anything like this for android?
sp1kez said:
There is no point int he HDMi at all if you can only use it for your pictures and your videos from the phone's camera.
They need to make it show what you see on the phone, but on the screen
I remember there was a windows mobiel program that popped up a small window on your desktop that let you see your phone's screen and interact with it on your monitor when connected through usb
anything like this for android?
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NO, the hdmi dock is a half ass design. For the $, it should do everything. MOTO/VZ dropped the ball on this. Hopefully they will open this up with a sw update.
Update: "Real HDMI" in the market
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769990&highlight=control+hdmi
Hi,
I'm pretty new to Android development. So my understanding after reading a couple threads here is that HDMI access on the stock Droid X is limited to the gallery only, is that right? And the point of the "Real HDMI" app is that it will automatically redirect all output to the phone's display through HDMI, right? So no API exists which gives programmatic control over the HDMI port? That's a shame if so.
Do any of the Android devices allow easier HDMI port control or do we need these kinds of work arounds for all of them?
Thank you very much for any information anyone can provide.
Sorry to be a pest, but can anybody answer my questions? Should I consider posting somehwere else?
Thanks again.
commie64 said:
Sorry to be a pest, but can anybody answer my questions? Should I consider posting somehwere else?
Thanks again.
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Maybe try posting in the Real HDMI thread over at DroidXForums.com because username GMAN (who made real hdmi) has a thread there. I'm sure his knowledge of the subject is pretty extensive.
ok so i was very excited to get the wpa tweak working, got my DS7 on adhoc. have the front end installed and working, gps, internet radio, video player and thinking of how i'm going to build a mount and where to FG it into my truck. then my wife shattered my good time by asking "how are you going to hook up the back up camera?". my heart dropped, it sank even lower when i searched for video cables and couldnt find anything. so i ask, is there a way to get video in to have a back up camera play on my DS7?
wow 106 views and not one reply? i'm guessing that means no video in nor out huh?
since the wifi or bluetooth are about the only way to connect I would suggest trying that. the cable's not likely to work. try the droid wireless webcam app, for a starting point.
I'm not a dev so that's the best help I can offer.
Chemus said:
since the wifi or bluetooth are about the only way to connect I would suggest trying that. the cable's not likely to work. try the droid wireless webcam app, for a starting point.
I'm not a dev so that's the best help I can offer.
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i think you misunderstood, i want to connect my back up(attached to my vehicle) and have it displayed on my DS7
no I understood, I'm suggesting that you look for a way to make your backup camera wireless. I realize that the program I talked about is used to send video from the droid over ip. It's the closest thing I can think of to what you would need, even though it in the wrong direction.
well, I suppose the best thing to do would be to find a bluetooth webcam and some ducttape. elsewise a usb to bluetooth converter. unless you're willing to go the insane route.
1. get a cheapy Latitude off Ebay.
2. hook your backup cam to the laptop.
3. keep the laptop on car power with an inverter
4. Install Ubuntu, set up webcam software, hook it to the net with skype, set skype to auto answer with video and set the laptop to stay on when closed.
5. install a working skype on your tablet.
6. Call your bad laptop w/ skype whenever you need the backup cam.
cheap old latitudes are everywhere, for instance:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-Latitude-C...ptops_Nov05&hash=item27bd70783c#ht_500wt_1156
http://cgi.ebay.com/DELL-LATITUDE-C...43370682?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item4aadcb6fba
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-Latitude-D...ptops_Nov05&hash=item43a8fbe4ab#ht_656wt_1185
Ummm yeah, the DS7 has no video "input" for analog or digital video, output only via the PDMI through the dock (or hacked cable with decoder/encoder chip) .. So the only way to get video IN to the DS7 is wireless of some kind.
well i think i will get a used mirror for my truck and try to back mount a small monitor. that or just get a nice double din and retro fit that
angruss said:
well, I suppose the best thing to do would be to find a bluetooth webcam and some ducttape. elsewise a usb to bluetooth converter. unless you're willing to go the insane route.
1. get a cheapy Latitude off Ebay.
2. hook your backup cam to the laptop.
3. keep the laptop on car power with an inverter
4. Install Ubuntu, set up webcam software, hook it to the net with skype, set skype to auto answer with video and set the laptop to stay on when closed.
5. install a working skype on your tablet.
6. Call your bad laptop w/ skype whenever you need the backup cam.
cheap old latitudes are everywhere, for instance:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-Latitude-C400-Notebook-/170681989180?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item27bd70783c#ht_500wt_1156
http://cgi.ebay.com/DELL-LATITUDE-CPi-PENTIUM-NOTEBOOK-LAPTOP-Loaded-Clean-/320743370682?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item4aadcb6fba
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-Latitude-D600-ST-D3KBG41-1-4GHz-Used-Laptop-/290597889195?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item43a8fbe4ab#ht_656wt_1185
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Lol I used to do this as a baby monitor. Worked very well !!
Hi.
Look at me, some new jerk with his first post being a request for screen mirroring on the Pi. What a douche right?
I have been doing a lot of research into this and nothing really seems too promising. Who the hell needs screen mirroring right? Just "play to", share the network, use lodi with custom repos or buy a chromecast and gtfo!
Dont get me wrong, I love the Pi, great device. Main problem is it is slow. Now Kodi running on my tablet screen mirrored over to my TV sure sounds a lot better. Since my TV, Xbox, playstation etc all currently do not want to screen mirror with me just yet, I think the Pi might be a good way to mirror the tablet to the TV since the tablet has a bit more CPU and 4 times the ram. The goal is of course to spend $0.
Raspberry Pi (original) model B (overclocked to over the highest settings)
Xbox One
Nexus 7-2 Tablet (rooted)
A slew of wires, none that go from usb to hdmi. One that goes from usb to VGA and another that goes from AV to hdmi)
An OTG cable (male microusb to female reg usb)
I feel like with the above I should be able to control the world :cyclops:, but I just cant seem to get anything going? What are your thoughts, I need a second pair of eyes on this as I could totally be thinking about this all wrong.
Thanks
https://github.com/lanceseidman/PiCAST/tree/picast2?files=1
https://github.com/codemonkeyricky/piracast
I think this is what you are looking for..
Screen Monitoring D:
i am also facing this .. hope #2 help
Hi.
I recently bought a couple of sonos speakers. I, as many others, am not impressed with the app they provide. Also, in many cases it is redundant. They now support spotify connect, but there is no plans for supporting the chromecast protocol. I would like to be able to cast anything from my phone, and just play whatever I'm casting on sonos. That way, I can more or less stop using their app and use casting instead, which is properly integrated in Android.
So... I have some ideas on how to accomplish this. Hence this thread. I list all three alternatives, feel free to suggest others I guess the only one really relevant to posting here is the first one. I have a 1st gen chromecast lying around. Although I haven't tried to root it, I'm guessing some smart folks here have done so. I also have a Nexus Player. And a raspberry pi... I am willing to buy a chromecast audio if that solves my problem.
1. Chromecast solution. Sonos does support radio URLs. I could create my own radio channel and broadcast whatever it is I'm streaming. This is most elegantly done by rooting a chromecast, and have it run a DLNA server. Is this possible? Preferably without spending months of time. First, I would to need run a DLNA server on the chromecast, I'm guessing that is doable. Second, I would need access to the audio stream. Either by having the DLNA server directly access the audio stream (if possible), or changing the audio output stream to a loopback and accessing it indirectly. Have anyone done this or similar before? Like running a DLNA server? Any hints? I should note that I'm fairly Linux-savvy. This is definitely technically possible, but is it a possible without spending enourmous amounts of time?
The rest of this post isn't really relevant to this forum, so feel free to skip it.
2. Raspberry pi solution. Buy a usb sound card with spdif in, connect a chromecast, and stream the input to my DLNA server. Fairly cheap solution, but seems excessive as the chromecast really is a computer, and should be able to do this by itself. Also, I might meet a wall with encoded audio streams. I could always go for a digital->analog->digital route though, but I'd rather go digital all the way.
3. Sonos solution. Buy a Sonos Play 5, which have optical input. This is definitely the best solution, but also very very expensive. I might be doing this in the long run.
Thanks for all tips!
I just bought a brand new Chromecast from walmart last night, after doing a bit of research it came down to this or the firestick. Chromecast won me over I've been searching the forums up and down and trying every google query I could think of, I know its possible to turn the TV on with the Chromecast via CEC but I couldn't find any posts about turning the TV itself off with my phone. I'm currently running an s6 edge+ rooted with darthstalker v11 and the skyhigh kernel 7.1 (Forgive me, I don't recall the kernels version but 7.1 seems good!)
My phone unfortunately is like one of the two recent phones that doesn't come with an IR blaster, which would make my life that much easier lol. So my question is, is it possible yet to use CEC or something over my paired network to shut JUST the tv off? I also woke up to the tv on with chromecast running? Is this a common thing or did I just press a button in my sleep? I'm totally new to the world of chromecast so I want to cover what I know from reading the forums. Root doesn't look all THAT appealing so im happy with what i've got now.
My final question; what are some good apps to have on my (rooted) phone for the Chromecast? Note: My Chromecast device isn't rooted, so I'm limited there.
P.S. I plugged it in and set it all up and received the OTA update so im on the latest software, sucks I know....im that guy who would like to root it just for the sake of saying "Yeah I rooted that!"
Thanks in advance and sorry for the rambling
The CEC in the CCast can turn the TV on and switch the input to the CCast input when you send a stream to the CCast.
It does not to my knowledge have the commands to shut off the tv....
And it isn't odd to have the CCast get a signal and switch on a TV or the input without you actually sending anything to it. Rare but I have seen that happen.