[Q] Need general advise for S5830 - Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I kind of messed up a bit with my Galaxy Ace S5830, so I'm about to wipe it again. But after thinking about it, I was wondering if there's a bit more that can be done for this legacy device aside of installing CM.
I first had CM 7.2.0 stable installed and overall it went fairly well for daily use, except for just a couple of issues: default camera not having zooming function, and this other issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596926
On IRC (cyanogenmod channel) I was told this probably could be due to Ace's awfully limited amount of RAM, which caused the updating app to not be able to temporarily store in RAM and use some of internal sotrage (limited as well), resulting in more and more internal storage consumed each time an update was performed. Or so I understood...
Also I noticed there are a few nightlies after stable CM version 7.2.0
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=cooper
So, questions would be:
1. If I'm to install CM7, which one should I pick, stable 7.2.0 again, or latest nightly? I think I once read comments that latest build fixed some minor bugs and was actualyl good, but I do care a lot about stability and the Wikia site says nightlies are unstable.
2. Is there something I could do for the updates/storage issue?
3. Is there default zoom for camera on CM7, or would I have to download another camera app?
4. I've seen there are now some CM 9, 10, 11, etc builds for S5830, but they are unofficial and in the IRC I was told unofficial was generally not that good (and potential malware). Should I better stick with CM7, or is there by chance an "official" CM 9, 10, 11 mod?
Thanks beforehand.

ctcx said:
I kind of messed up a bit with my Galaxy Ace S5830, so I'm about to wipe it again. But after thinking about it, I was wondering if there's a bit more that can be done for this legacy device aside of installing CM.
I first had CM 7.2.0 stable installed and overall it went fairly well for daily use, except for just a couple of issues: default camera not having zooming function, and this other issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596926
On IRC (cyanogenmod channel) I was told this probably could be due to Ace's awfully limited amount of RAM, which caused the updating app to not be able to temporarily store in RAM and use some of internal sotrage (limited as well), resulting in more and more internal storage consumed each time an update was performed. Or so I understood...
Also I noticed there are a few nightlies after stable CM version 7.2.0
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=cooper
So, questions would be:
1. If I'm to install CM7, which one should I pick, stable 7.2.0 again, or latest nightly? I think I once read comments that latest build fixed some minor bugs and was actualyl good, but I do care a lot about stability and the Wikia site says nightlies are unstable.
2. Is there something I could do for the updates/storage issue?
3. Is there default zoom for camera on CM7, or would I have to download another camera app?
4. I've seen there are now some CM 9, 10, 11, etc builds for S5830, but they are unofficial and in the IRC I was told unofficial was generally not that good (and potential malware). Should I better stick with CM7, or is there by chance an "official" CM 9, 10, 11 mod?
Thanks beforehand.
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1. Flash your desired version... there'is a lot of rom in Android Development section... Nightly doesn't mean unstable :silly:
2. Storage issue?... AFAiK CM7.x/9.x/10.x/11 haven't got any storage issue...
3. Our camera hasn't optical ZOOM... digital zoom is as if you enlarge a picture when you're seeing it in the gallery... anyway you can't do digital zoom using any CM camera.
4. Unofficial doesn't mean that the file contains potential malware...

Thanks mr Viper.
There's quite a lot of stuff in the Android Development section, maybe too much for me to process...
Although, from what I managed to see, @Mardon's roms -specially his CM11 rom- would rise my hopes high, if his roms weren't in alpha/beta stages and he could work on them more often.
However there's another rom that looks promising to flash right now, @Rhievaldo's CM9. From what I read in its thread, it looks functional enough for daily use. It's a shame that seemingly he's put its development on hiatus; would be great if those remaining issues could be fixed (compass, weather in lockscreen, etc).
@Viper The Ripper, in your experience, would you advise for 1 or 2 CM roms for S5830 in particular?
Also, do I need stock rom before flashing a CM rom, or can I just wipe data, cache, system? Do all CM roms come pre-rooted, or do I need to root beforehand?
Thanks again.
P.S.: regarding the "storage issue", I did leave a link to a previous thread started by me to explain what I meant, if you see it...

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ctcx said:
I kind of messed up a bit with my Galaxy Ace S5830, so I'm about to wipe it again. But after thinking about it, I was wondering if there's a bit more that can be done for this legacy device aside of installing CM.
I first had CM 7.2.0 stable installed and overall it went fairly well for daily use, except for just a couple of issues: default camera not having zooming function, and this other issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596926
On IRC (cyanogenmod channel) I was told this probably could be due to Ace's awfully limited amount of RAM, which caused the updating app to not be able to temporarily store in RAM and use some of internal sotrage (limited as well), resulting in more and more internal storage consumed each time an update was performed. Or so I understood...
Also I noticed there are a few nightlies after stable CM version 7.2.0
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=cooper
So, questions would be:
1. If I'm to install CM7, which one should I pick, stable 7.2.0 again, or latest nightly? I think I once read comments that latest build fixed some minor bugs and was actualyl good, but I do care a lot about stability and the Wikia site says nightlies are unstable.
2. Is there something I could do for the updates/storage issue?
3. Is there default zoom for camera on CM7, or would I have to download another camera app?
4. I've seen there are now some CM 9, 10, 11, etc builds for S5830, but they are unofficial and in the IRC I was told unofficial was generally not that good (and potential malware). Should I better stick with CM7, or is there by chance an "official" CM 9, 10, 11 mod?
Thanks beforehand.
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Hi There,
Well Stable would be my preference for daily use.
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[Q] Are CM7 roms fullly functional?

Tonight I'm getting a new LG O2X, and I've been reading about roms and stuff. I decided to install the CM7 Kang RC1 with Etana OC kernel, but first I'd like to know if I'm going to miss features like the front camera in skype/tango, or if the app "LG Touch LED Notifications" will work, which looks very useful because of the lack of a notification led.
If that kind of features don't work, I'll probably stick to a stock based rom. Thanks in advance!
No. To have perfect combo between stock and CM7 I use Hybrid ROM.
But 1080p playback is not working for me. Anyone knows why? On stock rom (2.2.2) i worked i think.
this one?
You mean this one?
I kinda have the same question, adding something else: how's the support for the Tegra video card? If we go out of the stock rom do we lose any performance over graphics and stuff?
Unless you run a modded kernel that allows OC; there isn't much of a difference between stock and CM when it comes to performance gains (+- since stock has a lot of crap that tend to slow down the device, but can be removed of course).
Temasek's CM7.2 UNOFFICIAL Build + IronkrnL 48MB RAM hack - everything is fully functional.
mike-o2 said:
Temasek's CM7.2 UNOFFICIAL Build + IronkrnL 48MB RAM hack - everything is fully functional.
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I installed that rom, build 100 and everything is working perfectly I installed ETaNa kernel just because I read people recommending it but I'm still not sure about what the kernel does besides allowing overclock (which I haven't done because I haven't felt it's necessary). Any other advantages?
Just want to confirm, Temasek knows his ****! : )
I was at first rather careful with ROM's and installed CM7 stable (1 year old ROM) on my LG 2x, just to see how it will work. After few months of good use (everything working just great) I suddenly couldn't enable data & 3G networks on the device. Then battery started to show weird issues, like phone will turn on itself and show that it's charging.
10 minutes I go I gave it leap of faith and installed latest Temasek's CM7 RC2-102, MIND BLOWN. Not only it works OOB without ANY issues, fixing the battery and data problem, installation just UPDATED my current ROM to Temasek's build, which means I didn't lose any settings, apps or ANYTHING.
Just install Temasek's builds, you won't regret it.
BTW, how to donate to Temasek, I couldn't find DONATE button?
Cheers!
mnlth said:
Just want to confirm, Temasek knows his ****! : )
I was at first rather careful with ROM's and installed CM7 stable (1 year old ROM) on my LG 2x, just to see how it will work. After few months of good use (everything working just great) I suddenly couldn't enable data & 3G networks on the device. Then battery started to show weird issues, like phone will turn on itself and show that it's charging.
10 minutes I go I gave it leap of faith and installed latest Temasek's CM7 RC2-102, MIND BLOWN. Not only it works OOB without ANY issues, fixing the battery and data problem, installation just UPDATED my current ROM to Temasek's build, which means I didn't lose any settings, apps or ANYTHING.
Just install Temasek's builds, you won't regret it.
BTW, how to donate to Temasek, I couldn't find DONATE button?
Cheers!
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Thank you.
No one rom is perfect. Soon you will find something not working or something u don't like. Overall cm7 is a very good rom.
Btw I don't ask for donations so u wont see any donation link.
Thanks.
everything is fully functional on cm7 since the fm radio was fixed (and that was a LONNNNGGG time ago)
only things that can be glitchy are the completely NEW features them devs are makin up
and no you dont loose any kind of graphics performance or w.e when going to cm.
yes, front camera also works...
Well, I think video calls don't work, as that is a function of the stock telefone app, but I might be mistaken.
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Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting
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not only you dont lose, but you also gain... best stock rom+best stock kernel vs best cm7 rom+best cm7 kernel cm7 wins everytime by a big difference, and in graphics some cm7 combos even boost your fps's a bit
Go for Django Manouche stock rom, all works, crap LG apps gone and aroma installer, if cm temasek

Installing Android for first time?

I have a touch pad with current version of WebOS and would like to install Android for the first time on it. I know I am late to the game.
I was looking here and found a tutorial, but it has bad links for the required files. With all the ROMs, tutorials around here and the dying links, can someone share link to a tutorial that is current and the required files still present for installing a stable version of Android. ICS or Jellybean preferred, if that can run stable, otherwise, I would consider going older. I am already familiar with Android, having a rooting Android phone, but somewhat overwhelmed about which information here I should pay attention to, versus what is obsolete.
Thanks
I found this tutorial with what appears to be complete set of required files
http://michaelkizer.com/Blog/tabid/...86/Installing-Android-on-the-HP-Touchpad.aspx
This is from September. Should I still be using this version of CM9, or is there a more recent one that would be better.
The tutorial says CM9 seems to be the most mature and well supported version. Should I expect all hardware on my touchpad including the camera to be working with this?
Should I use the google apps bundle from April he supplies, or another one?
Thanks
CM9 is now pretty solid and very usable everyday. I think all the main hardware works with the latest (camera has had a lot of ongoing work and may not be perfect, plus I am not sure about accelerometer / compass type inputs). CM9 should use the 29 April Gapps.
I just used this one yesterday; it updates often: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/31548-ho...-with-sound-camera-microphone-updated-121712/.
Is the file cm-9-20120916-NIGHTLY-tenderloin.zip mentioned in the tutorial still the latest stable CM9, or which version of CM9 should I use?
Can anyone else comment on the extent the hardware support issues were resolved on CM9? I would like all hardware to be working, including camera, accelerometer, compass, etc for access by Android apps, if possible.
bananagranola said:
I just used this one yesterday; it updates often: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/31548-ho...-with-sound-camera-microphone-updated-121712/.
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Looks like this CM10 is still too experimental, saying not to let the battery run out and that it would brick the device. My understanding is CM9 would be safer to use, and it is still at least Ice Cream Sandwich.
It has instructions for CM9 too. In short, just replace one file.
jssullins cm 10 (look at the p0articipation #'s)
I would go with jsSullins cm10. procedure is on first page including links to relevant files.

Most Reliable Daily Driver?

I see alot of Tocuhpad Dev threads and I just pulled my TP out of storage.
Its running Cyanogen Mod 4.0.4 (System settings says Cyanogen Mod Version 9-20120930 Nightly tenderloin)
Build date Sun Sept 30th 2012
I have CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.6
moboot 0.3.5
As you can see its very outdated.
What should I be running now if I am looking for daily reliability with most features working? Thanks for your input (If there is a newer guide I can follow to update from my current version to a new one please post it, thank you)
I would suggest that you read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147284.
It is an excellent guide with video tutorials if necessary. Roland has also posted an additional guide of the newer more experimental Roms also in Touchpad Development forum.
Hopefully they will help you make a decision based on what you need to use your tablet for ie Bluetooth/gaming etc.
Have fun there have been lots of improvements since you last used it.
sstar said:
I would suggest that you read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147284.
It is an excellent guide with video tutorials if necessary. Roland has also posted an additional guide of the newer more experimental Roms also in Touchpad Development forum.
Hopefully they will help you make a decision based on what you need to use your tablet for ie Bluetooth/gaming etc.
Have fun there have been lots of improvements since you last used it.
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Where do you even start on that thread, there is about 100 links and 15 videos posted?
gt5oh said:
Where do you even start on that thread, there is about 100 links and 15 videos posted?
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Just read the first page, then try a couple of different ROMs at the very least you can see all the different variations available and the requirements needed to install them(Partition size.
If you then have a specific question having tried the above it will probably be a lot easier to help you.
Personally, I would go with milaq's last Jelly Bean 4.2.2 rom cm10.1
The next step is 4.3 - read need for resizing of /system, and/or /data partitions - or 4.4 (Kitkat), which is still very much experimental/developmental.
Milaq's 10.1 Jelly Bean roms are very stable and good for daily use.
Just my opinion!
Peace
Thanks, I actually went the opposite way and did the test version of 4.4 to see how it is
It appears you are already partitioned to run the newest ROMs, but if you or others want to try at least a 10.1 ROM (Android 4.2.2) without having to increase partition size, OaT's Light n Tasty (LnT) is very stable and except for the lack of bluetooth plaguing a number of the post-CM9 ROMs the ROM is very solid. He somehow lightens the ROM and the GAPPs so it runs in the pre-CM10 partitions. I am leery of going all the way back to webOS, removing Android, doctoring and changing partitions, and then starting over. At some point I am sure I will, especially if a really solid KitKat ROM is released with bluetooth.
Many people have stayed on CM9 btw, as they find CM9 the most dependable.
Here's a link to the XDA discussion on OaT LnT. Note his OP has an older version of his ROM... if you scroll towards the end he includes a link to an October 8 version he has been using recently. Make sure to also use the GAPPs he includes in the OP, since it is lightened as well. He leaves off a few things... like calendar and browser, since so many people can and do use ones downloaded from Play Store (is. I use aCalendar and Next browser).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332510
CM 10.1 (JB 4.2.2) doesn't require repatitioning, its the newer 10.2/4.3 and Kitkat 4.4 that require/advise a larger /system partition.
I actually went back to ICS from 10.1 thinking it had been better, but tbh the experience wasn't what I remembered and I very quickly went back to 10.1 (via Kitkat, briefly, but too buggy for me atm). Battery life, responsiveness and stability were all better, for me, with 10.1 (spceifically milaq's roms).
Having said that, its worth giving yourself a bigger /system partition - 5 or 600mb - and trying out the latest kitkat builds, there's lots of promise there!
I will definitely be going back once certain bugs and issues are ironed out...
Peace

[Q] Best stable ROM for HD+

Hi
Just received a Nook HD+ but after quickly browsing and playing for a while, I was not pleased with the stock rom, scrolls were not as smooth as I had seen on my nexus 4 for nexus 7 (maybe I am spoilt), I could notice some jitters and hope a custom ROM could fix this.
When I see in the Android development forum for this device, as usual the very many listing of the ROMs makes it difficult to identify which is the latest and the stable one (I suggest in future we should group the threads as - stable and non-stable which will help Noobs like me to jump into the act immediately).
Can somebody please advise me this bit of information as to which is the most latest custom rom that is stable, I am guessing it could the 10.1 build here [NookHD+] CM10.1 native emmc install Now part of CM Nightlies . Also to a step by step resource starting from rooting to the final flashing of the custom rom.
Also, is it possible to use 'Cyonogenmod installer' instead directly from their website!?
thanks
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reply cm
Believe me I tried everything on nook.my initial thoughts were to run on SD card.but you have no official stable ROM for SD card .and the one available from bookbane was quite laggy .I tried both cm 11 and cm 10.2.then I installed on emmc again cm 11,cm 10.1 ,xperia ROM.but trust me the best experience I had so far was from cm10.2 on emmc .works beutiffully without any lag.
Just received a Nook HD+ but after quickly browsing and playing for a while, I was not pleased with the stock rom, scrolls were not as smooth as I had seen on my nexus 4 for nexus 7 (maybe I am spoilt), I could notice some jitters and hope a custom ROM could fix this.
When I see in the Android development forum for this device, as usual the very many listing of the ROMs makes it difficult to identify which is the latest and the stable one (I suggest in future we should group the threads as - stable and non-stable which will help Noobs like me to jump into the act immediately).
Can somebody please advise me this bit of information as to which is the most latest custom rom that is stable, I am guessing it could the 10.1 build here [NookHD+] CM10.1 native emmc install Now part of CM Nightlies . Also to a step by step resource starting from rooting to the final flashing of the custom rom.
Also, is it possible to use 'Cyonogenmod installer' instead directly from their website!?
thanks
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dajmaa said:
Believe me I tried everything on nook.my initial thoughts were to run on SD card.but you have no official stable ROM for SD card .and the one available from bookbane was quite laggy .I tried both cm 11 and cm 10.2.then I installed on emmc again cm 11,cm 10.1 ,xperia ROM.but trust me the best experience I had so far was from cm10.2 on emmc .works beutiffully without any lag.
Just received a Nook HD+ but after quickly browsing and playing for a while, I was not pleased with the stock rom, scrolls were not as smooth as I had seen on my nexus 4 for nexus 7 (maybe I am spoilt), I could notice some jitters and hope a custom ROM could fix this.
When I see in the Android development forum for this device, as usual the very many listing of the ROMs makes it difficult to identify which is the latest and the stable one (I suggest in future we should group the threads as - stable and non-stable which will help Noobs like me to jump into the act immediately).
Can somebody please advise me this bit of information as to which is the most latest custom rom that is stable, I am guessing it could the 10.1 build here [NookHD+] CM10.1 native emmc install Now part of CM Nightlies . Also to a step by step resource starting from rooting to the final flashing of the custom rom.
Also, is it possible to use 'Cyonogenmod installer' instead directly from their website!?
thanks
S
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Could you please point me to the source please with instructions to the best experience ROM 10.2!? will this autoupdate to any other new updates from Cyanogenmod?
thanks
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Could you please point me to the source please with instructions to the best experience ROM 10.2!? will this autoupdate to any other new updates from Cyanogenmod?
thanks
S[/QUOTE]Go to the dummies guide for installing CM10.1/CM10.2 linked in my signature.
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CM11
Best choice for HD+ is CM11 EMMC from verygreen.
It's officially supported by Cyanogemod and gets nightly updates.
The ROM is smooth and efficient.
There may be tiny little bugs for the ROM, but they won't stop you from using your device as a daily driver.
3/27 is very stable btw.
CM 10.2.1. vs. CM 11
After reading some of the posts here, I decided to "downgrade" from CM 11 0327 to the last stable CM 10, 10.2.1. (Per dajmaa's suggestion.)
I'd never tried CM 10 before. When I got my HD+ a few weeks ago, I went from the Nook stock ROM direct to a CM11 SD install (0308) and then ended up at CD 11 0327 on emmc the other day.
While CM 11 was usable for me (except for one annoying problem, where I couldn't download mp3's), I see that CM 10 is much more finished. For example, it has zRam implemented. (But maybe KitKat doesn't need that, with it's ostensibly better memory management?) Trebuchet launcher works like it's supposed to in CM 10.2.1, although I liked the ability to enlarge the icons in CM 11. And the font in the status bar seemed bigger to my old eyes in CM 11 than CM 10.
Lagwise, they both seem the same. No lag, although I noticed that CM 10 gets "stuck" every now and then when I switch back and forth quickly between apps. And it keeps wanting to put "Extended Desktop" in the Power menu.
I haven't had it running long enough with my aviation moving maps to see if I get any random reboots like I did with CM 11.
As JimJ2Mz said, 0327 runs well. (Except that I couldn't download podcasts.)
But I'll plan to stay put now until there's some major announcement about CM 11, like a RC or something.
JimJ2Mz said:
Best choice for HD+ is CM11 EMMC from verygreen.
It's officially supported by Cyanogemod and gets nightly updates.
The ROM is smooth and efficient.
There may be tiny little bugs for the ROM, but they won't stop you from using your device as a daily driver.
3/27 is very stable btw.
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Thanks Jim, I installed 10.2.x after trying out 10.1.3 for some time. I notice, GAPPS crashing randomly once in a while although not that too bad. Sometimes hangs for a while before it gets normal. So I guess there are still some bugs around. So was wondering 10.1.3 must be the one for me unless something stable comes up.
Now I see your post, and wondering why not I try it if there is going to be future updates. Do you feel it is smoother than the 10.1.x and 10.2.x as we all know KitKat is designed to run better on older hardware? If so I will proceed with CM11 and live minor bugs if that is not going to stand in the way of my daily usage like you mentioned.
sany said:
Thanks Jim, I installed 10.2.x after trying out 10.1.3 for some time. I notice, GAPPS crashing randomly once in a while although not that too bad. Sometimes hangs for a while before it gets normal. So I guess there are still some bugs around. So was wondering 10.1.3 must be the one for me unless something stable comes up.
Now I see your post, and wondering why not I try it if there is going to be future updates. Do you feel it is smoother than the 10.1.x and 10.2.x as we all know KitKat is designed to run better on older hardware? If so I will proceed with CM11 and live minor bugs if that is not going to stand in the way of my daily usage like you mentioned.
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When you updated to CM10.2, did you also update to 20120813 gapps? That could be the reason for your gapps problems if you didn't.
And an HD+ is not 'older hardware'.
I recommend CM10.1.3 as the most stable.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app
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Thanks Jim, I installed 10.2.x after trying out 10.1.3 for some time. I notice, GAPPS crashing randomly once in a while although not that too bad. Sometimes hangs for a while before it gets normal. So I guess there are still some bugs around. So was wondering 10.1.3 must be the one for me unless something stable comes up.
Now I see your post, and wondering why not I try it if there is going to be future updates. Do you feel it is smoother than the 10.1.x and 10.2.x as we all know KitKat is designed to run better on older hardware? If so I will proceed with CM11 and live minor bugs if that is not going to stand in the way of my daily usage like you mentioned.
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In my own experience, yes, CM11 feels much more fluid than the older versions.
4.4 RAM usage is optimized for older hardware, which actually benefits ALL devices, but that doesn't mean that the Nook HD/HD+ is old. It's modern and is still very powerful, just as leapinlar said. Well, not powerful, but not weak. Haha.
And as leapinlar also recommended, CM10.1.3 is indeed stable. Anyway. It's up to you. I've had my experiences with the ROMs and they can differ from others, so it's all up to you whether you want to try CM11 or stick to any other ROM.
JimJ2Mz said:
In my own experience, yes, CM11 feels much more fluid than the older versions.
4.4 RAM usage is optimized for older hardware, which actually benefits ALL devices, but that doesn't mean that the Nook HD/HD+ is old. It's modern and is still very powerful, just as leapinlar said. Well, not powerful, but not weak. Haha.
And as leapinlar also recommended, CM10.1.3 is indeed stable. Anyway. It's up to you. I've had my experiences with the ROMs and they can differ from others, so it's all up to you whether you want to try CM11 or stick to any other ROM.
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I tried CM11 but it was throwing lots of google app erros on load, I was actually using the same GAPPS file that was on the 10.2.1, is there a used diferent GAPP file for CM11? maybe that caused the error. And also I struggled to go back to the CWM recovery for CM10.1 and 10.2 as it was just stuck at the recovery used for CM11 even after flashing the ver.3 recovery zip several times.
I have literally tried every single ROM out there and here are my recommendations:
1. Succulent's CM 11 (http://goo.im/devs/succulent/ovation/cyanogenmod/internal)
2. Official CM 10.2 Stable (I have been using it with drmarble's Kernel, which you can get here: https://app.box.com/s/ry03xsmhlxq2jomnwlaj)
Both ROMs are bug-free and run flawlessly. I get around 6 hours of screen-on time on both (which is an amazing battery life).
OH GEEZ
sany said:
I tried CM11 but it was throwing lots of google app erros on load, I was actually using the same GAPPS file that was on the 10.2.1, is there a used diferent GAPP file for CM11? maybe that caused the error. And also I struggled to go back to the CWM recovery for CM10.1 and 10.2 as it was just stuck at the recovery used for CM11 even after flashing the ver.3 recovery zip several times.
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DUDE YOU HAVE TO USE GAPPS DEDICATED FOR CM11 (4.4)!
That's a given. You're having errors due to the fact that you're using 4.2 gapps on 4.4!
Follow this guide and FIX EVERYTHING. I followed it myself it everything works perfectly.
Please do ask if you need help on anything. I may be a noob, but I do know some stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602796
Thanks Jim
JimJ2Mz said:
DUDE YOU HAVE TO USE GAPPS DEDICATED FOR CM11 (4.4)!
That's a given. You're having errors due to the fact that you're using 4.2 gapps on 4.4!
Follow this guide and FIX EVERYTHING. I followed it myself it everything works perfectly.
Please do ask if you need help on anything. I may be a noob, but I do know some stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602796
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Thanks Jim, I will do this. Why do you think I was unable to go back to CWN recovery for 10.1/10.2 - everytime after flashing the old recovery and go into the recovery mode, I still see the ver.6 (of CM11) in action.
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CM13 vs Ivan's AOSP & Install Questions

My MI3w is currently on MIUI 7 5.12.4 KK Dev ROM & I want to upgrade.
I need the basics to be reliably working, Camera, Calls, GPS, Gaming, Battery-life, etc.
So what is more stable/bugfree, an MM or lollipop rom? From what I have read, it seems like the marshmallow roms are fairly good at this point so I have been leaning towards either CM13 or Ivan's AOSP or possibly BeanStalk, any recommendations?
I have read a couple of posts that say the gaming & camera performance are better on lollipop, is that true?
I am also a bit confused on the whole partition resizing thing... Does that need to be done to use MM roms or can I flash as is? I read some things that seem to say CM13 works with the stock partition setup & Ivan's/MIUI MM requires expanding it, is that correct?
Also, I am still on the stock recovery so TWRP or CWM?
And can anyone suggest the best guide for upgrading from MIUI 7 KK? Some guides seem to assume you are already on a newer rom with custom recovery installed. And some seem to do the partition expansion while others don't mention it (I would prefer not to if it is not necessary).
Beanstalk 20-Jan build is pretty stable and can be used as daily driver.
AOSP/CAF based MM ROMs are the best. Ivan's one is good too. Though among all the ROMs I found CAF, CandySix great
Haven't used Ivan's rom but Beanstalk and Mokee latest build are pretty good.
Nintoad said:
My MI3w is currently on MIUI 7 5.12.4 KK Dev ROM & I want to upgrade.
I need the basics to be reliably working, Camera, Calls, GPS, Gaming, Battery-life, etc.
So what is more stable/bugfree, an MM or lollipop rom? From what I have read, it seems like the marshmallow roms are fairly good at this point so I have been leaning towards either CM13 or Ivan's AOSP or possibly BeanStalk, any recommendations?
I have read a couple of posts that say the gaming & camera performance are better on lollipop, is that true?
I am also a bit confused on the whole partition resizing thing... Does that need to be done to use MM roms or can I flash as is? I read some things that seem to say CM13 works with the stock partition setup & Ivan's/MIUI MM requires expanding it, is that correct?
Also, I am still on the stock recovery so TWRP or CWM?
And can anyone suggest the best guide for upgrading from MIUI 7 KK? Some guides seem to assume you are already on a newer rom with custom recovery installed. And some seem to do the partition expansion while others don't mention it (I would prefer not to if it is not necessary).
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1. from the MM roms I've seen, the base is already quite stable and matured, so the basics work on a decent maturity level. (I wouldn't know about the gaming performance though). In general the camera performance should not differ whether you use LP or MM, you can use the camera libs and apps with the same hardware.
I could recommend CAF, Slimbit, Beanstalk as daily drivers. The choice depends more on the additional features you would like to have. CAF and Slimbit has only the AOSP features, so I use Gravitybox to add what I like. But that's just personal preference.
2. the resizing: many roms need the "resized" system partitions already, the MM MIUI/ Ivan's MM AOSP need the "merged" partitions, an important difference in the update procedure.
I'd suggest you update to MIUI 7 5.12.17 CN Dev ROM, this should merge the partitions (better make a backup first). After that you can install any rom or recovery you prefer. (see also http://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-3/general/mi3-4-marshmallow-6-0-5-12-24-alpha-t3280037)
Thanks for all the info! I did not know that installing MIUI MM rom would take care of the partition merging for me. All I have to do is just flash it in recovery in the usual way? I decided to just go ahead and dive in last night & installed TWRP & the latest CM13 nightly. But the main reason I choose CM13 was its support for the older partition setup.
I am stupid happy with the speed & snappiness vs MIUI KK, night & day difference is not strong enough, day & the center of a black hole is a more fitting contrast. The only issue I am having is the camera. Google camera is a buggy unusable mess, it constantly is freezing up and most features like lens blur just cause it to crash, is it the same on other MM roms? Or maybe does it have something to do with me having to flash the gapps pico pack because it is all that would fit with unmerged partitions?
I am also not a fan of the CM13 native camera app, it does not seem to have a way adjust the preview size from 16:9 so you don't know what is actually in frame before you snap. I use my phone for pics & video a lot & I have read some things saying that the camera quality on MIUI is a lot better than other roms, how true is that?
I haven't found a all in one solution for the camera, typically I use "a better camera" or "lenovo super camera" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665714)
Nintoad said:
Thanks for all the info! I did not know that installing MIUI MM rom would take care of the partition merging for me. All I have to do is just flash it in recovery in the usual way? I decided to just go ahead and dive in last night & installed TWRP & the latest CM13 nightly. But the main reason I choose CM13 was its support for the older partition setup.
I am stupid happy with the speed & snappiness vs MIUI KK, night & day difference is not strong enough, day & the center of a black hole is a more fitting contrast. The only issue I am having is the camera. Google camera is a buggy unusable mess, it constantly is freezing up and most features like lens blur just cause it to crash, is it the same on other MM roms? Or maybe does it have something to do with me having to flash the gapps pico pack because it is all that would fit with unmerged partitions?
I am also not a fan of the CM13 native camera app, it does not seem to have a way adjust the preview size from 16:9 so you don't know what is actually in frame before you snap. I use my phone for pics & video a lot & I have read some things saying that the camera quality on MIUI is a lot better than other roms, how true is that?
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Alright First thing first... You'll need a extended partition table to install MM roms. The gapps packages are bit bulky so you need to be on extended partition table. Here you can find how to make extended partition table. As for beanstalk rom there is a tweak for the extended partition table, I'm not sure about other MM roms need that tweak or not, because I haven't tried those . AS for camera Beanstalk comes with new snapdragon camera comes with it's own tweak and it's pretty good and yes it's true that MIUI camera is good because of it's secret sauce, unfortunately the source is closed so developers are unable to port that sh*t. As for gapps open gapps pico or banks gapps are good. Rest is upto you and TWRP is recommended recovery.
As far as extending partition is concerned, use this method http://en.miui.com/thread-209941-1-1.html
This method is very easy and reliable and the partition table supports both miui and other mm roms.
Installing miui mm will give same partition table, but the process is cumbersome and you might face soft bricks if not done properly
I am mostly happy with CM13 but it is down to two issues that have me ready to try another rom. I am leaning towards giving BeanStalk a go.
CM13 issues
1. Google Camera is not usable. Can anyone confirm if it is working on BeanStalk or other roms?
2. Bluetooth does not consistently work. It will work a little while & then audio starts skipping & gamepads will not stay connected. The only fix seems to be rebooting but it soon stops working again. So can anyone confirm BT working on Beanstalk or another rom?
Nintoad said:
I am mostly happy with CM13 but it is down to two issues that have me ready to try another rom. I am leaning towards giving BeanStalk a go.
CM13 issues
1. Google Camera is not usable. Can anyone confirm if it is working on BeanStalk or other roms?
2. Bluetooth does not consistently work. It will work a little while & then audio starts skipping & gamepads will not stay connected. The only fix seems to be rebooting but it soon stops working again. So can anyone confirm BT working on Beanstalk or another rom?
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Yup!! It's Goole camera on Beanstalk but sometimes it's crashes during mode change.That is due to CM source code I guess, because it was working with previous builds. Bluetooth is also ,but Haven't checked with any gamepad though. It's working with normal file transfer. NFC is broken.
Beanstalk is my daily driver, it is pretty stable so far this is the best android 6.0 rom I have tried.

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