I really want to remove this rubbish is there any way to go about doing that?
Can't you just go to the app list, tap-and-hold on it, and choose "Uninstall"? Unlike on Android, OEMs and MOs aren't allowed to bundle non-removable apps on WP8. "Settings" apps kind of bend that rule, but anything in the app list should be removable unless it's from Microsoft and built into the OS.
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Can't you just go to the app list, tap-and-hold on it, and choose "Uninstall"? Unlike on Android, OEMs and MOs aren't allowed to bundle non-removable apps on WP8. "Settings" apps kind of bend that rule, but anything in the app list should be removable unless it's from Microsoft and built into the OS.
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Everyone knows computers, phones, pda, slows as the memory fills. Now there are ssome apps on the market that say they speed up you phone. So far I count three
- Memory up Professional
- Memory up Personal
- Memory for Lemmings
Has anyone tried any of these? What do you have to say about them? Do they work? Are you to skeptical (scarred) to try them?
I tried memory up Professional but didn't seem to work also its shareware
Memory for lemming seemed more simple but memory number keep jumping around there should be a log/graph for memory usage like windows task manager (I probably should email him that)
Haven't tried mem up personal though,
To an extend they work but overall they have no use. Android OS is built around killing services after some time and keeping the phone running in top performance. Those memory programs might free up a few KB's but not much use on that part, unless you have a program that allows you to kill services and stuff, which might have a practical use. Overall my answer is they are pretty much fake!
Just look at the definition of Lemming...
Lemming
The act of following the crowd into an investment that will inevitably head for disaster.
The version Memory for Lemmings is essentially garbage as well. He only made it to prove a point that the effects of the other pay programs are useless.
I used Memory Up when my G1 was working (doing a warranty, still waiting for the mail). It did not appear to do anything. Some claimed it did, I claim placebo effect for them.
The first thing I checked when running it was whether or not it killed open apps, it did not. Useless in my opinion. Wait for a real task manager.
From what I understand it does the same thing Oxios Memory does for Windows Mobile... it merely compacts RAM by clearing up system memory providing a slight boost but non noticeable to the human eye or feel. Android system by default will keep up to 6 applications running in the background and closes the oldest app. when the 7th application is opened (hold down the home key and try it out yourself). From what I have noticed, (and there is not real way to track virtual/RAM memory in the G1, if you don't turn off your phone but every few days... then the memory programs WILL help (slightly) to avoid the inevitable power off to clear system RAM or cool off the circuit board.
Lol welcome to the land of the stupid. I explain not only WHAT the app MemoryForLemmings does , but also HOW it does it right in the description. Not only that but I also suggest a google search term which tells you ALL ABOUT Garbage collection. But for the Google inept here we go.
Every java program has variables and objects in it. These objectd consume memory - both on the java heap and also indirectly the system. Now Old School coders like myself who used C generally null out the variables when done with them - thus freeing memory off the heap.(I am not going to explain what the heap is ****ing look it up), we are used to C where every spec of memory had to be allocated and deallocated. Java on the other hand doesnt require you to be so fussy, It keeps a running log of variables etc and whether they are being used or not and periodically it will go through and run .... wait for it ... garbage collection. It does this at a set time or at a set memory level of the heap.
But guess what, Sun in their infinite wisdom provide a way to ask the system to run garbage collection early. This is not a forced suggestion merely a hint to the OS, the OS can choose to ignore this. Guess what my app does? Can you guess? Thats right it merely suggests to the OS to finalize items thats may be running but are old and to run garbage collection. Thats it. The whole damn program is maybe 40 lines long and that includes the Dialog code.
There is nothing like a bunch of non coders getting together on a forum to write up some of the least correct assumptions I have ever seen about code.
Android does not close apps on a First in First out basis. You cannot rely on that when coding apps, Androids program management is more sophisticated than that. You cannot "compact RAM" it is not disk. Any clearing of the system memory is a crap shoot, I Included it on the app for ****s and giggles. It may speed up your system as the heap/system memory clear, but again that's a crap shoot.
I only wrote the app at all so the idiot charging 15 bucks for app wouldn't be able to scam people for something the OS would do anyway (Which by the way is ALSO in the description). I didn't even post it to the market to start just the androidcommunity boards, but they encouraged me to list it.
I really suggest you actually USE google (Golly where would you find a google search bar), before you go off half cocked.
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I really suggest you actually USE google (Golly where would you find a google search bar), before you go off half cocked.
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I don't think half the visitors to xda-dev Dream understood what you wrote above. And that's why people will continue to buy these apps (on this and other platforms). Right now the Android Market is still not as bad as the iPhone App Store, where exploitation and ridiculously pointless apps hit truly saddening new plateaus.
I think i'll go write a "cell phone radiation reducer" app right now and charge twenty bucks for it.
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I don't think half the visitors to xda-dev Dream understood what you wrote above. And that's why people will continue to buy these apps (on this and other platforms). Right now the Android Market is still not as bad as the iPhone App Store, where exploitation and ridiculously pointless apps hit truly saddening new plateaus.
I think i'll go write a "cell phone radiation reducer" app right now and charge twenty bucks for it.
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Sweet Ill totally buy it
I sometimes feel I am one man trying hold back the tide of stupid armed only with a soggy celery stalk.
Java?
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But guess what, Sun in their infinite wisdom provide a way to ask the system to run garbage collection early. This is not a forced suggestion merely a hint to the OS, the OS can choose to ignore this. Guess what my app does? Can you guess? Thats right it merely suggests to the OS to finalize items thats may be running but are old and to run garbage collection. Thats it. The whole damn program is maybe 40 lines long and that includes the Dialog code.
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Bratag: All of the apps on my system run in Linux, not Java. So your program wouldn't really do anything for me or the 90% of android users that don't do Java? I'm not sure about the Linux/Java connection you are making. Please elaborate.
The dalvik vm is basically a tweaked java vm. With some very limited exception, almost all the code in the available apks are all java classes.
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There is nothing like a bunch of non coders getting together on a forum to write up some of the least correct assumptions I have ever seen about code.
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You must be new here.
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Bratag: All of the apps on my system run in Linux, not Java. So your program wouldn't really do anything for me or the 90% of android users that don't do Java? I'm not sure about the Linux/Java connection you are making. Please elaborate.
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Actually all the apps on your system run In a Java Runtime Environment called Dalvik which is a virtual machine which has been optimized to efficiently run multiple instances efficiently. So everything you run is a java app and that includes the desktop.
Now this all runs on TOP of a linux KERNEL.
EDIT: damn someone beat me to it
Bratag - you rock.
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Actually all the apps on your system run In a Java Runtime Environment called Dalvik which is a virtual machine which has been optimized to efficiently run multiple instances efficiently. So everything you run is a java app and that includes the desktop.
Now this all runs on TOP of a linux KERNEL.
EDIT: damn someone beat me to it
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The very reason an emulater like Smartgear, Pocketnes or MAME is impossible on Android. A black & white Gamboy emu would kill the 7201a with sound and 30fps.
Java sucks for these type of apps having to emulate the game system and be interpreted through two layers.
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The very reason an emulater like Smartgear, Pocketnes or MAME is impossible on Android.
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Not at all impossible if you use JNI to hook to a compiled c++ or asm library for the main engine. Heck, it's not even "impossible" to do in Java-- merely unfeasible.
Stay on topic.
Apps on Android can't touch anything outside their own sandbox due to the security model (unless the other app gives you a way to access it's data, but even then, you can't touch it's memory). I feel sorry for the poor sod who pays for these apps.
Seems like only Blackberry closes apps when your done, WM and Android you always have to go and close them or you get lag and its a pain. On both Windows and linux if you "X" out the program you dont still have to bring up the task manager and close them again.
I dont know about symbian though, never used Nokia.
I was just wondering whats the purpose of it. Why does the OS do that? Whats the point?
The reasoning is so that you can run apps in the background.
if u want ur apps to close pay a buck for advanced task manager. u will thank me l8r
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On both Windows and linux if you "X" out the program you dont still have to bring up the task manager and close them again.
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Uh, no. Both Windows and Linux, if you close a window, it's up to the application to decide what to do. That's not a windows/linux problem; it's the people who made that application.
If you mean WM/Android, then yeah, you're correct. I'm not entirely sure on WM's reasoning, but this is the way Android is designed. It handles what applications will run in the background. When an app is in the background, it's there so if you want to open it up again quickly it'll load instantly.
90% of applications don't have problems running in the background. They don't slow the phone down, and they don't take up insane amounts of memory. Android was designed to phase applications out of mem that aren't used, as you open up new applications.
So I got two D3's for my parents and they don't care for any of the social apps at all nor Blockbuster or anything else. How do I get rid of these?
Damn this phone has a lot of bloatware, even for a Verizon phone.
Well, you have a few options, but only one actually get's the bloatware out of your hair.
You can root the phone and freeze all of the apps they don't want to show up (see the list of safe-to-freeze apps in the Development section of this forum). That approach provides the benefit of keeping those unwanted apps from running in the background, using up resources. Under the circumstances, though, it might not be a good idea to root your parent's phone if they aren't tech savvy, 'cause they might break it (and, of course, there's that whole voided warranty thing).
You can use the App Groups feature in the stock D3 app drawer. Just create an App Group (call it "Favorites" or something) and add only the apps that your parent wants to see. This is a simple method of getting all the bloatware out of your face. The downside, though, is that, every time you install a new app, you will have to remember to add it to your "Favorites" App Group or you won't see it in the App Drawer by default (you'd have to switch over to "All Apps" or "Downloaded Apps"). Also, this doesn't do anything to keep the bloatware from doing stuff in the background. Option #1 is the only way to do that.
Use a third party Home Launcher. I don't know which ones do and don't have this feature, but Launcher Pro has the ability of adding apps to a "Hide" list for the App Drawer. This way, you can pick all of the bloatware that you don't want to see in the App Drawer. Compared to Option #2, this approach is better because, once you've built your "Hide" list, you don't have to do anything else. There is no need to add newly-installed apps to a group so that they can be seen or anything. The downside (or upside, depending on your perspective) is that you will have completely changed the look/feel of the Home Launcher from the Moto Stock Launcher. Personally, I prefer the look and functionality of Launcher Pro, but some may like the Launcher that Moto put on this phone from the factory.
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I rooted it and ran the remove bloatware script. Seemed to do the trick. Much faster. Now my old lady wants me to de-bloat hers. I manually rooted the d3 (the day it was posted), but they have the one click root now.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I though I heard somewhere a while back ago that Windows Phone 8 might get a folders opption.
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You can see various folders on the computer when the phone is connected with USB.
Also, some programs can see those folders, but the app has to be programmed for it.
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Fa310tx said:
Define...
You can see various folders on the computer when the phone is connected with USB.
Also, some programs can see those folders, but the app has to be programmed for it.
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Actually that's not what I meant LOL. I should have been more specific. This is what I meant. (http://windowsphonehacker.com/folders)
Ahhh...
Just to get multiple apps in one tile.
JJ
Why would you want to get multiple apps in one tile?
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Why would you want to get multiple apps in one tile?
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You can group apps into one folder so you can use less tiles.
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Why would you want to get multiple apps in one tile?
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Plus, you could organize.
Don't you have grouping on you start menu?
Personally, I don't think I would use the feature.
I like my start screen clean and concise.
JJ
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You can group apps into one folder so you can use less tiles.
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Judging by your recent posts, I do not think you understand what live tiles are supposed to be.
You are not supposed to pin every single app you have to start screen(that's why you have an app drawer)
You are supposed to launch an app with a single tap, not spend several other taps just to get to the app you need.
Windows Phone already has a simple but very effective way of sorting apps. If you don't use an app all too often, why do you need it on the start screen?
If you use an app very often, why do you need to spend extra taps to get it launching?
Folders are really not needed on Windows Phone, and for that matter, any other smartphone, they do not bring anything useful to the mix, but more clutter and less performance.
And if you really die for not having folders, get used with the concept of hubs, which is a much better implementation of folders, and you can pin them to start screen, and they also provide you with nice info.
There aren't hubs for everything: no news, social etc. Further, not all apps populate the hubs you'd.think they should. Jaxbot's folders app essentially allows creation of custom hubs and an uncluttered Start screen. So yeah, WP8 could use something similar.
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Judging by your recent posts, I do not think you understand what live tiles are supposed to be.
You are not supposed to pin every single app you have to start screen(that's why you have an app drawer)
You are supposed to launch an app with a single tap, not spend several other taps just to get to the app you need.
Windows Phone already has a simple but very effective way of sorting apps. If you don't use an app all too often, why do you need it on the start screen?
If you use an app very often, why do you need to spend extra taps to get it launching?
Folders are really not needed on Windows Phone, and for that matter, any other smartphone, they do not bring anything useful to the mix, but more clutter and less performance.
And if you really die for not having folders, get used with the concept of hubs, which is a much better implementation of folders, and you can pin them to start screen, and they also provide you with nice info.
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Dude, I completely understand what live tiles are no need to vent or get all fired up. It's just an option; some might like it while others might not.
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There aren't hubs for everything: no news, social etc. Further, not all apps populate the hubs you'd.think they should. Jaxbot's folders app essentially allows creation of custom hubs and an uncluttered Start screen. So yeah, WP8 could use something similar.
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Thanks piaqt for explaining this to those who just don't get the concept or need for this app. :good:
piaqt said:
There aren't hubs for everything: no news, social etc. Further, not all apps populate the hubs you'd.think they should. Jaxbot's folders app essentially allows creation of custom hubs and an uncluttered Start screen. So yeah, WP8 could use something similar.
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Social has two hubs, actually: Me and people.
Apps not populating the hubs is not the users nor microsoft's problem, it is developer problem.
And if you really want a news hub, go suggest it to Microsoft, they are already considering it anyway.
Well its actually technically possible to create folders now without homebrew apps. The folders will work fine for non live tile apps but otherwise u lose the live tile capabilities.
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Well its actually technically possible to create folders now without homebrew apps. The folders will work fine for non live tile apps but otherwise u lose the live tile capabilities.
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I would be very happy if you could elaborate on how to "technically" do that
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I'm thinking of moving across to the dual SIM Sony Xperia I Mk II.
I've been using various OEMs that have dual apps as standard but seeing as Sony devices are pretty much stock are there any reliable apps other than the usual suspects like Parallel Space that don't hog up system resources and drain the battery?
I have had a good look around the Play Store but can't seem to find a reliable app that will run dual apps such as WhatsApp.
Can anyone point me in the right direction as I don't want to spend a lot of money for a phone that I can't run two SIM cards on as I'm using my current mobile device as my personal and business phone.
Thanks in advance
I had the same issue. Coming from a Samsung Phone, I got really used to the secure folder and dual app functionality. I found an app called Island (by Oasis Feng) which pretty much uses the built in Android Work profile system to create dual apps. It does exactly that: lets you choose the apps you'd like to create another copy of and treats it just like it's own installation. I don't think it uses any battery or anything like that. I don't use it often but when I have needed it I had no issues or anything. It should be more than enough for what you need.
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I had the same issue. Coming from a Samsung Phone, I got really used to the secure folder and dual app functionality. I found an app called Island (by Oasis Feng) which pretty much uses the built in Android Work profile system to create dual apps. It does exactly that: lets you choose the apps you'd like to create another copy of and treats it just like it's own installation. I don't think it uses any battery or anything like that. I don't use it often but when I have needed it I had no issues or anything. It should be more than enough for what you need.
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Thanks Davis I appreciate the response. I heard about Island apparently it's one of the better ones out there in terms of bringing dual app functionality and with you stating that you haven't had any issues using it is a step in the right direction. Will give it a go if I decide to get the Xperia in the end.
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I'm thinking of moving across to the dual SIM Sony Xperia I Mk II.
I've been using various OEMs that have dual apps as standard but seeing as Sony devices are pretty much stock are there any reliable apps other than the usual suspects like Parallel Space that don't hog up system resources and drain the battery?
I have had a good look around the Play Store but can't seem to find a reliable app that will run dual apps such as WhatsApp.
Can anyone point me in the right direction as I don't want to spend a lot of money for a phone that I can't run two SIM cards on as I'm using my current mobile device as my personal and business phone.
Thanks in advance
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Hi. if its only for Whats app purposes.. What i usually do is Install Business Whatsapp and Regular Whatsapp. This doesnt need any additional app and works amazingly fine.
Just setup business whatsapp for ur business (it actually is very useful for business) .. u can even set it for ur personal number.. It doesnt matter tbh.
Hope u get the idea. thanks.