Stock apps that are safe to remove? - HTC Desire 510

Is there an official/unofficial list of all the system apps that are safe to remove? Trying to free up more space. I've uninstalled a lot already with absolutely no repercussion. I don't want to push my luck.
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Why not try freezing then first if you're worried. Let the phone run for a couple days and if you have no problems then uninstall them. . Time consuming-yes. But safer

I get what you're saying. But I'm sure there's people who have already found out what is and isn't needed. Have you uninstalled bloatware yet? If so, what can you tell me about your findings? If not I'll just keep testing.
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I uninstalled a heap of them, I'll sit down tomorrow and make a list of them, and all was still working well n.a. But what I did find is when Ann updated was released it wouldn't load because it kept looking for certain files to modify. Thanks to JDMederios I was able to reload back to standard and start again.
The crux of it is there is no definitive list. You can uninstall a huge number of bloatware, but I might use app x and all is good. You may use app y and suffer continuous crashes. Everyone uses their phone differently and that makes it hard to give a hard and fast list

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Amazon Market on AT&T

When did AT&T finally start let us AT&T guys use the Amazon App store? I noticed today I can now get the Apps there. I know I signed up to be notified when this would start but didn't get an email or I just missed it. I was able to get my 1st Free App this Morning....
if you rooted your phone and then enabled non-market apps, then you could have been using it all along.
i've been using it since they started it, although the free apps have been really sucky lately.
drwx said:
if you rooted your phone and then enabled non-market apps, then you could have been using it all along.
i've been using it since they started it, although the free apps have been really sucky lately.
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LOL.. I am Rooted didn't know I could been doing it.
Thanks
Yeah, I had it the first day.
The first apps they gave out were awesome, now its all bull****.
Not to mention a lot of their apps are older versions, and Amazon's customer service is mostly phone call based, you can't get the problem solved with email alone.
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The free app is decent about once/week..but that's a far sight better than nothing
just keep in mind that whatever app you download from the amazon market, requires amazon market to be installed if you restore it in the future (via TiBu or similar app). You cannot restore an amazon app and exclude the market
Good to know, I didn't realize that. Though I did have a few issues early on with apps not... "authenticating" I think, it's been a while since I've seen it happen tbh.
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nyydynasty said:
just keep in mind that whatever app you download from the amazon market, requires amazon market to be installed if you restore it in the future (via TiBu or similar app). You cannot restore an amazon app and exclude the market
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I restore apps from amazon market by using TiBu and haven't had issues. Is it because I am also restoring amazon market at the same time that I haven't had issues?
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I restore apps from amazon market by using TiBu and haven't had issues. Is it because I am also restoring amazon market at the same time that I haven't had issues?
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Exactly. If you ever uninstall amazon market (or not restore it with tibu) they won't work anymore. I know this pisses off some people, but I don't think it's really that big a deal.
Not really, just leave it on, check the free app daily, otherwise leave it alone. But get any normally free apps from the main market, Amazon's evaluation process keeps them a version behind on most from what I saw.
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jde984 said:
Exactly. If you ever uninstall amazon market (or not restore it with tibu) they won't work anymore. I know this pisses off some people, but I don't think it's really that big a deal.
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me neither. I like to see what they offer each day. Once in a while, it's a really good app. I wonder if Freezing the amazon market will still allow you to use the apps from it.
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me neither. I like to see what they offer each day. Once in a while, it's a really good app. I wonder if Freezing the amazon market will still allow you to use the apps from it.
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Out of curiosity I just tested this. Freezing the Amazon Appstore causes both "Free Apps of the Day" and also regularly purchased paid apps to stop working. If you buy it on Amazon you have to keep the Appstore running and signed in to your account. I suppose I'll direct my future purchases toward the Google Market based on that and a few other variables.
Why do people care that amazon appstore needs to be installed for apps to work? Is anyone planning to uninstall it? The android market is installed and I don't think too many folks plan to uninstall it
I don't like being forced to keep the amazon store open, but I understand the need to. Otherwise they'd have to fiddle with every paid app so it checks with their servers not google to see if it's authentic. They're behind enough on their versions already.
Its also a bit annoying if you forget to install the amazon store with your backup.
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[Q] free memory and optimizations

Hello,
after removing alot of bloatware from the phone (LG stuff and killing some more apps & widgets)
i get roughly 163M free (after whatsapp, email, adv. task killer )
i am running on stock ROM
what are the numbers that you are getting?
i saw several people with 230M and 200 as well.
how can i get more available memory besides freeze and un-install?
It really doesn't matter, if you need more than you have free, Android will free some up for you.
yeh but i want to understand how it actually works and to remove all the rest of the bloatware from the phone.
since i still think that there are alot of things that arent required for standard operation.
Linux based OS like Android usually keep a lot of apps in memory, and if necessary free the memory for other apps, so it 's not the real problem I think.
The real issue is that some apps runs in background and use radio connection to connect to servers, to verify updates etc, and that drains battery and take CPU time. For example if you have stock firmware, and have some apps installed by your phone provider, or so.
Alternative MODS are free from those bloatwares, and even in stock ROMS if you are rooted you can use Root App Remover to uninstall stock apps that are not necessary.
You can for example try some apps like GO Launcher or Titanium Back UP to freeze the desired apps and prevent them to run in background. Make some tests o see if there is a real difference, I think most of the time it's mainly a psychological issue ;-)
Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation i have removed most of the stock apps and installed adv task manager to kill the rest but still how come people here on the forums got 230mb memory when i can only reach 180-160?
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Because they use other hacks aswell ( disabling the OTA feature, using some ram reserved for the GPU as memory, etc)
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Can you recommend some apps or give some links?
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shpapy said:
Can you recommend some apps or give some links?
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here you are
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989283&highlight=apk+remove
but be careful with LG Home or LG Launcher... if you don't have a replacement launcher, you will screw up your rom...
Thanks a lot i was looking for that quite hard but i probably missed it
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Rusty! said:
It really doesn't matter, if you need more than you have free, Android will free some up for you.
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I've noticed this during general use on my phone. Normally when using Twitter or Facebook.
Quite often I will go to use the app and find i've been logged out. I'm guessing the OS killed the app to free up memory for something else.
What I get annoyed with is some apps that Autostart on Bootup when there's no obvious reason why they would need to. (BBC iPlayer etc) This Just takes up memory when it doesn't need to
I've never been logged out of Twitter and/or Facebook... closing the app wouldn't log you out anyway, that's something else altogether.
I got the same issue with skype although its not supposed to logout it does even though he runs in the background
Strange right ?
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[Q] how to delete bloatware and free up my internal memory

the post says it all. i am a noob when it comes to bionic and want to free up my memory (internal) what would be the EASIEST way to accomplish this?directions please with sugar on top.
Root Explorer... navigate to /system/app.
I always make a folder on my SD like "SystemApps" then I move what I don't want out to that folder as opposed to just deleting them, just in case I find out something is acting weird or needed.
"Some" of the bloat can be uninstalled via the built in App Manager also.
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This really should not be in the development section. Until we have a way to back everything up via recovery the only way you can do anything like that is through rooting and using Titanium backup. You can either freeze or uninstall any app. I would not uninstall anything without backing it up first. All I have done is freeze some bloatware so I do not have to see it in the app list. You can really f up your phone if you remove the wrongs stuff. A there is a list somewhere of which apps you can freeze without issues.
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Already rooted and you can already back up
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Ok downloaded root explorer but can't create a new folder is read only how do I alter that
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At the top it says r/o read only press it and itll change to r/w read write
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After uninstalling some bloat ware i got a force close when trying to access some of my contacs anyone have a list of what they unistalled? ?
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nrage23 said:
This really should not be in the development section. Until we have a way to back everything up via recovery the only way you can do anything like that is through rooting and using Titanium backup. You can either freeze or uninstall any app. I would not uninstall anything without backing it up first. All I have done is freeze some bloatware so I do not have to see it in the app list. You can really f up your phone if you remove the wrongs stuff. A there is a list somewhere of which apps you can freeze without issues.
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THIS!!!
I am no where near an expert as some of the Devs in these forums, but I went through a lot of ROMs on my old Eris. Every time, though, I had a Nand backup to go to if/when I screwed up.
Now that I have a nice, new, shiny Bionic I will not root until there is an SBF to allow a return to stock. Yep, people like P3Droid, and others, have successfully rooted and debloated. All it takes, though, is some little glitch, power spike or otherwise, to screw things up. Actually, reading a few forums there are more than a few that have already bricked or really hamstrung their $600 phone by just rooting and borking around trying to debloat.
Patience people. Within 2, 3, 4 weeks I'm sure one of our Dev wizards will have a failsafe method ... WITH BACKUP RESTORE CAPABILITIES.
I just group up my apps to eliminate viewing the bloat. My phone is fine. Fools rush in, for sure.
On a side note: I've seen a couple people mention on other forums that they have bricked their phones and committed fraud by returning their smoldering remnants back to Verizon. Slackers.
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THIS!!!
I am no where near an expert as some of the Devs in these forums, but I went through a lot of ROMs on my old Eris. Every time, though, I had a Nand backup to go to if/when I screwed up.
Now that I have a nice, new, shiny Bionic I will not root until there is an SBF to allow a return to stock. Yep, people like P3Droid, and others, have successfully rooted and debloated. All it takes, though, is some little glitch, power spike or otherwise, to screw things up. Actually, reading a few forums there are more than a few that have already bricked or really hamstrung their $600 phone by just rooting and borking around trying to debloat.
Patience people. Within 2, 3, 4 weeks I'm sure one of our Dev wizards will have a failsafe method ... WITH BACKUP RESTORE CAPABILITIES.
I just group up my apps to eliminate viewing the bloat. My phone is fine. Fools rush in, for sure.
On a side note: I've seen a couple people mention on other forums that they have bricked their phones and committed fraud by returning their smoldering remnants back to Verizon. Slackers.
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Wow is this really needed??????? Suck it up and root the stupid thing.............. its a one click process......... if your not willing to take a risk get off XDA
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What did you use to back up your bionic?
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I'm guessing Titanium Backup. But here's my question.... Is it safer to 'freeze' bloatware instead of moving it into a new folder on your SD card?
As long as you don't delete it when you move it then either option is good from my experience worth moto phones
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Ok I have done both renamed bloat files .bak and moved them into their own folder in my sdcard , my question is how do I free up internal memory? When I do either of those sure it removes then from my application drawer but it doesn't free up any memory?
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Bull174 said:
After uninstalling some bloat ware i got a force close when trying to access some of my contacs anyone have a list of what they unistalled? ?
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You may have uninstalled the Yahoo contacts. You can find a System App dump from here: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/tbh-discussion-forum/9081-droid-bionic-system-dumps-partial.html
Hope this helps
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I'm guessing Titanium Backup. But here's my question.... Is it safer to 'freeze' bloatware instead of moving it into a new folder on your SD card?
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It's always safer to freeze the bloatware. This way if your phone starts to act up, all you have to do is defrost whatever you froze.
That did the trick thanks Idk why Yahoo is tired to that process.
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I deleted a bunch of bloat ware but it doesn't say that I cleared up any internal memory anybody know why?
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I know this is opinionated, but what apps are bloatware? Let's say I have all the apps I want to use already on a backup and I am starting the Bionic clean. What can I uninstall or move that won't mess up the phone?
There is a list of files ok and not ok to delete at androicentral.com check it out great source.
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We've also compiled a list over at AF for your perusal. Messenger13 has added his own commentary as to what he did and did not remove and why.
http://androidforums.com/bionic-all-things-root/411737-froze-stuff-using-tbu.html#post3199282

List of apps safe to freeze after root

I was wondering if there is a list anywhere of the apps that would be safe to freeze now that we have root. I froze a few things, but figured I wouldn't freeze anything I wasn't sure of.
Thanks in advance!
i am also interested in this. I just froze some of this verizon bloatware before i attempt to uninstall it <root>
Looks like theyre frozen and not in my app drawer anymore so im just gonna leave it like this until i fill up my puny 16gb storage.
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i am also interested in this. I just froze some of this verizon bloatware before i attempt to uninstall it <root>
Looks like theyre frozen and not in my app drawer anymore so im just gonna leave it like this until i fill up my puny 16gb storage.
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There's a thread for this. Search for titanium backup in this section.
I've been trying to search all day and keep getting an error saying it is not available. If anyone knows where it is I'd appreciate an assist.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432729
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What is safe to remove from the phone?

This will be the first time I've ever used Titanium because usually I just flash a new ROM. So what apps are safe to completely remove and what should I freeze? Thanks in advance for the help.
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I'd like to know this as well. I want to remove as much bloat/crap as possible.
For a non-AT&T specific list you can check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470862
A good start is anything that says "AT&T" anything lol.
Before removing it, freeze it with TB top make sure it won't cause any issues
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Yeah i might have already gone too far, because I had 2 FC's on touchwiz home ..
one of them caused me to be unable to unlock the phone, and i almost had to pull the battery.
i have since cleared TWHome data, and am hoping that fixes it.
I deleted a lot of crap. like 30 apps.
I must say boy do i have a lot of ram back! Like 853mb in use after i hit clear!

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