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Hi guys, I'm definitely thinking about buying an LG Optimus 2X, because over here in NZ it is by far the cheapest dual core phone, yet is similar/on par with many of the latest phones.
Before I decide to buy it however, I'd just like to ask a few questions to clear things up.
- Based on many reviews, the UI seems occasionally choppy, and I've also heard that many users aren't happy with a large number of bugs and crashes. Is this fixed when the phone is updated from froyo to gingerbread? Ice cream sandwich is also officially coming for the 2X which sounds promising.
- Is the battery life acceptable? Spec sheets say it runs on a 1500 mAh battery which sounds, theoretically, quite awful :/ I'd like to know if you get used to it or not. I'm not a huge traveler, so I'd use it at home most of the time, occasionally when going out.
- Design-wise, the camera protrudes slightly on the back. I'm worried that this might make the lens more susceptible to damage and cracks. Has this affected anyone?
I'd really appreciate answers for these questions. Thanks a lot.
Hi!
1. The stock ui can be choppy because of the crappy software that comes on your phone. This is because the stock LG rom kind of sucks and is really slow. This problem persists on both Froyo and Gingerbread I believe. Therefore my advice is to root your phone and flash a custom rom on it. This will make your phone a lot smoother and better. Also, I wouldn't wait for the official ICS update. Knowing LG, this might take some time, just like when they released Gingerbread. They said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they would release it somewhere in 2013...
Anyway, CM9 is available to us, and this is ICS, although not stock. You can find a couple of CM9 (and CM7) roms in the dev section.
2. The battery life is pretty good. But only when you use a good custom rom. I've heard many stories from people who got massive battery drains on stock unrooted phones. Sometimes they can't even last a day with normal usage! However, with my current combination. (signature ) I can last for about 2 days with moderate usage. (twitter, Facebook, 9gag, YouTube, XDA App, and about a hour gaming) So, yeah, again, root and flash your phone.
3. Don't worry about the camera. So far, I never heard a story of someone who cracked their lens. The camera quality on stock is actually quite good and on normal CM not really. But, by flashing camera mod you can really improve it and make it close to stock. Also, the piece of glass in front of the lens can be broken. Some users, like me, make better pictures without the back cover on. This is because the piece of glass in front of the lens can be quite dirty and full of fingerprints. That's why I decided to cut it out . Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
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Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
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What protection is that..?
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What protection is that..?
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Even when you remove the back cover the camera still has the lens (just like any normal compact camera), The back cover is actually only there to prevent the lens from getting dirty, I believe, and it's easy to clean (every time I take a picture I clean the back cover with my shirt and the results are pretty good )
Now, regarding the OP, I bought it and I don't regret my purchase not one bit. It's true a lot of people complain about bugs and crashes but my experience even with the stock Froyo ROM was actually good. And when I flashed a custom ROM what was already good just got great.
So yeah, I would say there's nothing out there that beats the price/quality on the O2X.
@LarsPT
Uhuh, that's true. The lens has its own piece of glass in front of it which protects it. The extra piece of glass from the backcover is just to make sure that the lens doesn't get dirty. In my case, this extra glass remains dirty even if I try to clean it. Therefore I decided to cut it out...
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Hi!
1. The stock ui can be choppy because of the crappy software that comes on your phone. This is because the stock LG rom kind of sucks and is really slow. This problem persists on both Froyo and Gingerbread I believe. Therefore my advice is to root your phone and flash a custom rom on it. This will make your phone a lot smoother and better. Also, I wouldn't wait for the official ICS update. Knowing LG, this might take some time, just like when they released Gingerbread. They said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they would release it somewhere in 2013...
Anyway, CM9 is available to us, and this is ICS, although not stock. You can find a couple of CM9 (and CM7) roms in the dev section.
2. The battery life is pretty good. But only when you use a good custom rom. I've heard many stories from people who got massive battery drains on stock unrooted phones. Sometimes they can't even last a day with normal usage! However, with my current combination. (signature ) I can last for about 2 days with moderate usage. (twitter, Facebook, 9gag, YouTube, XDA App, and about a hour gaming) So, yeah, again, root and flash your phone.
3. Don't worry about the camera. So far, I never heard a story of someone who cracked their lens. The camera quality on stock is actually quite good and on normal CM not really. But, by flashing camera mod you can really improve it and make it close to stock. Also, the piece of glass in front of the lens can be broken. Some users, like me, make better pictures without the back cover on. This is because the piece of glass in front of the lens can be quite dirty and full of fingerprints. That's why I decided to cut it out . Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
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Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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NOT AT ALL
In CM, there has been ported a camera app(stock LG) due to which it is just good
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Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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I think you'll be more than happy with the O2X to do all of the above.
If you want to check picture quality you can check it here:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150296662400657.555672.662115656&type=3&l=8675ea8903
The first four photos (take a look at the arc de la défense) were taken with it, I like it.
Thanks to everyone who's posted. I've just got one more question for people who have rooted their 2X. The web browsing seems quite laggy when using stock froyo (perhaps gingerbread?). When you root the phone, is this problem solved? Thanks.
Hi Beplexor!
When I'm surfing the web the only time I get a "laggy" experience is when the reception is not so great, like when I'm on the train or bus. If I'm at a fix position with HDSPA it surfs great. I haven't even felt the need to user another browser other than the stock one.
Really, there's nothing I can throw at this phone that it can't handle! I'm not the most demanding of users, but still, I find it great!
I'm glad everyone is so positive about this phone, but I am not.
It has lots of issues and glitches, and although tweaking, rooting and installing custrom roms is certainly nice, there is always this or that 'wrong' with it. It all depends on what you want.
If you like tweaking and messing around and don't mind some rough edges, then yes, it is a nice phone which works well.
If you want a phone that just works, then no, this phone is not a good idea.
Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. Fact is, that I cannot use stock firmwares of Gingerbread properly at all. And there are more people with this problem. The cell-radio keeps crashing. CM 7.1/7.2 does not have this problem, so I'm using this.
However, voice quality is poor, I have issues with Wifi not wanting to activate after 2-3 days and I need to reboot every 1-2 days anyway because of performance drops. After 48 hours it is impossible, for example, to watch a Youtube video, use Skype or play any game. After a reboot performance is great again.
So, it all depends on what you want with and expect from a phone. And of course how much money you're willing to spend and a whole lot of other factors
And as for the CM9 builds (ICS): the camera doesn't work properly and things like FM radio don't work (properly). Also, no HW acceleration so some newer ICS apps don't work either. So, I'm eagerly awaing the official LG ICS to see how that fares.
Bottom-line: I'm not saying the phone is bad for everyone or it's a piece of crap, I'm just saying that if it is important to you that the phone 'just works' and 'always works', then this phone is not a good idea.
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Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. Fact is, that I cannot use stock firmwares of Gingerbread properly at all.
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If your phone was crap with stock firmware I think you have a faulty equipment and should have asked for a replacement.
My phone worked great with stock and works excellent with custom.
No matter what brand you choose there will always be faulty equipment. Of course, some brands have tighter quality control then others, and that reflects on the price.
For the price of this phone it is normal to expect worse quality control, this just means the probability of getting a faulty equipment are higher, you just have to test it properly and send it back if it doesn't work.
Of course, if this is something you would rather pay more and not have to worry about this, I would advise against LG, but so far this is my second LG phone and I'm a happy customer!
Thanks for your reply. Based on my experiences with the device, I am pretty sure it's not faulty equipment.
The price of the phone was close to 500 euros when I got it, so the argument about the price doens'nt really hold, imho.
Let's just say there are people that are happy with it, and there are also a lot of people that are unhappy. Therefore, I personally cannot recommend this phone if you want one that always/just works.
We might have some semantics problems here.
In your original post you say "Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. "
When you say the hardware revision is a factor, for me hardware revisions are there because the older hardware had flaws. For me this qualifies as faulty equipment.
The "current" hardware revision, or at least the one I've got, worked fine out of the box. Maybe that's why you're not as happy a customer as I am, because you got a "hardware revision" from back when the price was still 500 eur. Now I can say it's much better, I've had no issues so far at all.
Hi guys, I'm only 15 years old and any phone I buy will be bought using my own money earned from a part time job. I want a medium-high end phone, but it's my own money and I'm not willing to cash out heaps, therefore I think the O2X will be a great choice. I understand it's not the most stable phone out there, but the fact remains that it IS a very affordable dual core phone.
I know that you guys say root and flash the moment you get it, but like some people say in this thread, the phone doesn't seem to work to its full potential e.g absence of certain applications, shady camera etc. If I get the phone, it's highly likely that I'll just wait until stock ICS comes out, which isn't far away; LG promised it within Q2 of this year.
Yeah, well I wouldn't wait for LG if I were you. It's more likely that they will release ICS during the 2nd quarter of 2013 than this year...
Also, the stock rom doesn't get the full potential out of the phone because the stock software is just really, really bad. The O2X has a great piece of hardware but this crappy stock rom makes the phone so ****ty...
The only way to get the full potential out of this device is to root and flash it with any custom rom and kernel. Trust me, you'll notice an enormous difference in speed, stability and smoothness.
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Yeah, well I wouldn't wait for LG if I were you. It's more likely that they will release ICS during the 2nd quarter of 2013 than this year...
Also, the stock rom doesn't get the full potential out of the phone because the stock software is just really, really bad. The O2X has a great piece of hardware but this crappy stock rom makes the phone so ****ty...
The only way to get the full potential out of this device is to root and flash it with any custom rom and kernel. Trust me, you'll notice an enormous difference in speed, stability and smoothness.
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I'll definitely give that advice a chance...just wondering, if I were to root it, I'd just go into the Android Development section right? Could you please link me to clear tutorials on how to flash CM (such as the one you have right now) onto the O2X? Thanks.
I think this should pretty much cover everything... :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/LG_Optimus_2X:_Full_Update_Guide
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I think this should pretty much cover everything... :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/LG_Optimus_2X:_Full_Update_Guide
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Thanks a lot for that! I've actually decided to get the O2X now, just ordered it! I have just been on the official cyanogenmod site and I've come across the mod for O2X. There is a list of of three downloads: Stable Mod, Experimental Mod and Nightly Builds. Which one is the version that you currently have?
Finally, I'd just like to clear things up fully. On the version that you have, what are the main issues (if they exist at all)? For me, cameras, gaming, web browsing and texting are a must; they all work fine right? I'd still like to be aware of any other bugs or non-fully functioning aspects of CM. Thanks!
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Thanks a lot for that! I've actually decided to get the O2X now, just ordered it! I have just been on the official cyanogenmod site and I've come across the mod for O2X. There is a list of of three downloads: Stable Mod, Experimental Mod and Nightly Builds. Which one is the version that you currently have?
Finally, I'd just like to clear things up fully. On the version that you have, what are the main issues (if they exist at all)? For me, cameras, gaming, web browsing and texting are a must; they all work fine right? I'd still like to be aware of any other bugs or non-fully functioning aspects of CM. Thanks!
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Uhmm... I use the Unofficial Build (KANG) from Temasek. Don't worry, it's still CM but then with some extra little goodies baked in (cherry-pickings). With other words, I use a CM7 version compiled by an user, Temasek, instead of a CM7 version compiled by the official CM bot. But if you want an official CM7, then you should use the latest Nightly Build, because they're far more stable than the 'Stable Mod', not to mention that nightlies are even better too. Actually, you can compare Temaseks Unofficial build with the latest nightly, I believe there's not much difference between them. Nevertheless, a lot of people like his Unofficial builds.
There are no issues for CM7 I believe. I'm using it for about four months now (actually three, I also played a month around with CM9 which is a little too buggy for me, but it was awesome anyway ) However you should keep in mind that the camera quality of CM7 is not so good, compared to the stock camera quality. This is because the camera needs special libs from the stock LG rom to work good and those libs don't work on CM7 for some reason. But, there's a solution to that! Go to Temaseks KANG thread (link in signature) and go the third post. There you'll find a whole lot of mods compiled by other users. Download and flash the camera mod by Kostja_V in CWM recovery. This improves the camera a lot.
Hope this helped!
Hi guys, if someone could help me with this I would be so grateful!
Few months back, I've installed Jelly Bean on my LG 4X HD through LGPCsuite. It started lagging so much after that update, it's almost impossible to work with it. When I'm trying to call someone it takes about 10 secs to even start calling, not to mention how home screen lags after closing app etc. I've read here, on xda, that the best solution would be to downgrade to ICS. Anyway, I really didn't like ICS; camera is much better on JB then on ICS (it took blurry pics) plus some other things I really like more on JB. I have JB v20b and I was wondering: if I install v20a will lagging be less? I really want to use JB, not ICS. Plus, if someone can tell me how should I do that? Or tell me what would really be best solution. I'm kinda scared of installing custom rom, so I'm trying to avoid that. Plus, I'm from Croatia and could I install EUROPE OPEN ANEUBK VERSION firmware?
Thanks so much, I really hope someone will help me!
Plus, please don't mind if I'm asking some nonsense, I'm really new at this.
That's it. I think 4x is a very bad product. Great specs but very bad OS.
Ics lags to much, mainly on camera, I barely can take photos. Jb lags everywhere.
So no solusion. I've just sold my 4x and changed to L80.. really smooth despite the lower specs.
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Okay, I've been surfing xda forums for the last few hours and I've figured that custom roms aren't so bad. So, can someone suggest me which one is the best for lg 4x hd? Camera is really important for me, so I'm hoping there are custom roms with properly working camera.
Custom roms based on stock/original won't help. The performance is the same.
If you want to be faster, use CM, you can try Xenon rom. But CM always have bugs : sometimes freezes, and dark photos
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Custom roms based on stock/original won't help. The performance is the same.
If you want to be faster, use CM, you can try Xenon rom. But CM always have bugs : sometimes freezes, and dark photos
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but custom roms aren't based on 4.1.2., isn't that right? They're based on 4.3. or 4.4 versions. I've been watching some videos on YT and phones with custom roms are super fast, so I'm confused now
Some are, some aren't. If you look around this forum you'll see that the android version is always in the original post of the ROM thread. Using a custom ROM won't automatically make your phone "super fast", though mine is smoother since I switched from stock. "What's the best xxx" threads aren't allowed on XDA because there is no right or wrong answer: it depends on what you're looking for. I've tried Cyanogenmod 11 and Paranoid Android and found PA to be faster and slightly more stable, but I prefer CM because it gives me better battery life and there are alternatives to the features of PA that made me change (peek and hover) on CM. Look around these forums and see what works for you
A word of advice though: make sure you do your homework before you install it. Read all you can before starting, or you could brick your phone!
I have experience with few P880s. Stock roms arent that bad.
In case you want to flash back stock roms. I give you this link for stock firmware of LG phone http://lg-phone-firmware.com/
With custom roms, I often start with CM, then try others.
Hope this help.
my first android phone, best bang for the buck
this is my first android, and I love it, despite the software issues with Stock LG firmware, whether ICS or JB. P.S. my baseband is v20c (UAE).
Quick note, which may cost you seconds of your time and perhaps solve all your issues before jumping to other, custom ROMs. Have you disabled MLT from the hidden menu? (many users reported that it solves the lags)
Open Dialer -> Dial: 3845#*880# -> MLT (all the way at the bottom of the list) -> disable
I tried it on JB (4.1.2) and it definitely helped with the lags.
But then few days later, I decided I wanna play with Kitkat 4.4.4, and I went for the most customization-rich ROM: Beanstalk, and also added the stock LG camera app from JB. Why? because it is faster and the focus is a little better I think. The only thing that doesn't work in it is that if you switch to front-facing camera, it is just a full green screen. However, the camera app that comes in beanstalk doesn't have this problem with front-facing camera. And, you get to have both camera apps installed, so you can switch and compare quality.
The only trick to get the last build of Beanstalk (4.4.4007 , 14/07/14) booting was to also flash iodak v10 kernel immediately after the BS ROM. Then of course gapps (google apps).
Only issue or bug I noticed is you get an error message about DSP manager crashing when playing music, but the music plays afterwards. This is a known issue and should be fixed in later releases.
Alternatively, if you prefer simplicity over customizations, and rock solid stability over latest/bleeding-edge releases, you could go with the stable version of CyanogenMod 10.1.3
Hope I helped.
Since official update missing from too long time in latest months I have searching for alternative ROM or MOD since I cannot spend a lot of money for a new smartphone again after only a couple of years and with stock ROM Optimus for some reason is more laggy than smartphone far less powerful.
Unfortunately in all I have found some issue and problems, so now I'm wondering what are the ROM\MODS more used by the P880 community on XDA..
Eventually a list of not-working things (eg missing radio, broken GPS, unusable MHL HDMI out etc.) would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Everything working with BlissPop 3.2.
I am using CM 11 nightlies and I am waiting for its final release !
after more than 1 year of flashing many ROMs, I think I've found my best tradeoff with this: omni-4.4.4-20150520-p880-FINAL
No bugs for my use and excellent smothness.
The only drawback is the long time required to turn mobile data ON.
To keep the thread alive..
My experience after 2 years using this phone and custom roms:
- phone is s**t (but I do not intend to buy a new one, so here goes..)
- Used some recommended roms laying around, but here are some roms I tested and used for longer period.
- I use phone for everyday use. I want lagfree, fast and good battery life (at least in deep sleep). I mostly use some simple apps, browsing, messages, pdf books, camera and video recording.
1. CM11 (4.2.2.)
Great rom, with some bugs, but nothing serious.
Occasional lags, good battery life - some builds were awsome (less than 0,3%/hour batt consumption).
Maybe little too slow occasionally.
2.CM11 (4.4.4)
Also great rom, with some nice features, much more polished than 4.2.2. At start there were great builds, but after some time it got worse. Probably kernel related.
Quite good speed, some lags, quite good batt (but not so good as 4.2.2).
If you did not restart phone in a while, it got very laggy - at least second period of rom development.
3.MAHDI FINAL
Best rom - is`s features are endless. Great for customising everything, quite good speed, but laggy from time to time - when you most need it! Battery similar to CM11 4.4.4, but better with speed. Quite good, but too much lag for me.
3.MOURTA LS+KERNEL
Best rom I used becouse of smoothness, features and customization of whole rom. Really smooth.
BUT it has a bug with gapps - if you do not google enable update service(s) - it does not go to deep sleep.
And MAJOR DOWNSIDE - worst batt life of all the roms I used. Tried everything, but batt life did not get any better. Especially when you use the phone - batt drains as hell.
So I got a felling that all this speed and other goodies comes with bad batt.
I can do this on my own, with any rom, by putting governor to performance
Too bad for this rom... Goodbye!
4.OMNI 4.4.4. final
So I tried this recommended rom - after reading some forum posts.
It is not so great with features (some of them I miss), but it is almost lagfree, quite fast, good batt life..
Maybe only rom I used, that is stable and fast enough for everyday use..
I miss some functions and LS speed , but for now - I am satisfied.
For the end
- I did not tried any custom kernels, at least for longer period. Had a felling they all got too bad batt life for my taste.
- tried also scripts and tweaks 2.2, but I did not notice any big improvment over my demands (stable, fast, batt).
And it would be great if we all together find the best rom for everyday use ?!
And maybe upload the zips to some cloud, for later generations to use ?
I personally would like to get CM11 4.2.2 builds.
And CM11 unofficial builds to try.
That would be great, if whole LG 4x community could create final ROM for our phone - with everything done, and working as it shoud be.
Personally I use Resurrection Remix 5.4.5 ROM. Pretty good performance and battery life after some tweaks (Power Nap, disabling some wakelocks etc.). But it wasn't updated since May 2015 Sometimes it's going crazy: interface, and system crashes, but that's ocassionally (every day ? - f%#&#).
This phone is S%$t, and sometimes I want to throw it through the window... But i'm poor xD
Blisspop 3.4
CM 11 3.14 Nightly
Some times I get no signal and the phone wont wake up from deep sleep but most of the time it's not bad at all.
Yeah bros, i totally understand you all...Every ROM i used (some for short, other for long periods of time) eventually turned to be ****. I of course dont blame not one dev, as their doing their best to keep alive a crappy smartphone. Right now i use for some time the CM 12.1 i think, as it was the most (at least) usable ROM, whitout huge bugs and a whole lot of lag. There were a lot of times i wanted to burn this useless piece of **** and throw it out the window...But finally the time has come. I ordered a LG G4! Comming next week. I will miss you all out there, as we shared strugle... :crying::crying::highfive:
I want an update to this survey. Still I haven't found a ROM where everything works. In some ROM doesn't work correctly the GPS, in other ROMS I aren't able to scan QR codes. other ROMS have TV out broken, fm radio broken or videocamera not fully functional or with worsened quality... other ROMS are laggy or with freezes.
This is a 1,5 Ghz quad core with 1GB ram, is an outdated device but still far more powerful than many entry levels in the marked that are released with recent Android OS version and are way faster despite their hardware.
What are the most newer ROM fully working for daily use?
MoltenMotherBoard Lollipop 5.1.1
The only not-working stuffs, that I know of, are QR code scanning and FM radio. QR code scanning can never be fixed for grouper blobs based ROMs. FM radio is never a critical feature. Most custom ROMs choose to ignore this for most Android phones, not just LG O4X.
If you ever build the ROM from source, then you will appreciate this Lollipop ROM that it is preserving most of the pristine Google AOSP experience as much as possible.
Unfortunately for me that my taste of Android OS has been less than desirable until Lollipop. It is my personal choice that I won't look back on anything lesser than Lollipop on my Android phone. This is also one of the reason I am staying away even from LG stock JB ROM. If we take away issues with OS aging, then we hope to be able to declare that stock ROM should be perfect. But I can tell you that for LG O4X, LG had failed this.
In short, I just want to tell you that it is very rare to find custom ROMs matching the functionalities of stock ROM perfectly. If you had to take the route of custom ROMs, then you need to choose base on features that matter most for your usage.
Is there any rom with sustained performance and stagefright fixes (maybe f2fs for perfomance)?
I don't really care if its 4.3, 4.4 or 5.1
As long as it has halfway decent battery life (I know the tegra3 is power hungry) and it doesn't have seconds of lag in whatsapp like the stock rom, I am happy.
I am like you, tried many Rom's untill today. I think our P880 is same but there is something different, I know devices have same parts but somehow different.
I mean some Rom works for me very well but same rom for another friend dosn't work as it's supposed to be.
Lately I am using Euphoria for daily driver. I like LP features. Jb or Kit Kat doesn't satisfied me. And I decide to buy new phone because like I said before P880 's hardware doesn't enough anymore. I think I will buy Z5.
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I am like you, tried many Rom's untill today. I think our P880 is same but there is something different, I know devices have same parts but somehow different.
I mean some Rom works for me very well but same rom for another friend dosn't work as it's supposed to be.
Lately I am using Euphoria for daily driver. I like LP features. Jb or Kit Kat doesn't satisfied me. And I decide to buy new phone because like I said before P880 's hardware doesn't enough anymore. I think I will buy Z5.
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Yes, I do agree with u on the fact that our devices are somewhat different from one another and we are having somewhat difficult time in coping with the new OS provided that our hardware are a bit outdated. However, I think this phone is really endurable and I am very satisfied with this, I have been using this phone for almost three years and it still function as it is so I have to say I am impressed. Currently I am trying out cm11 and mahdi 4.4., I have to say cm11 is rock stable but I would say mahdi has a lot of customizable features that I like. So it is quite difficult to choose among them. But for LP rom, I think it requires way too much resources that our phone might not be able to cope with.
Beanstalk 4.4.x
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Is there any rom with sustained performance and stagefright fixes (maybe f2fs for perfomance)?
I don't really care if its 4.3, 4.4 or 5.1
As long as it has halfway decent battery life (I know the tegra3 is power hungry) and it doesn't have seconds of lag in whatsapp like the stock rom, I am happy.
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May I suggest beanstalk. Good battery, lots of optional features like halo etc (only thing that doesnt work is the screen recorder). If there was a lollipop version, then I would run it in heartbeat :good:
meerameer said:
May I suggest beanstalk. Good battery, lots of optional features like halo etc (only thing that doesnt work is the screen recorder). If there was a lollipop version, then I would run it in heartbeat :good:
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I am running Mahdi at the moment.
Works, responsiveness is fine. But sometimes PlayServices go bezerk and cause wakelocks, until the battery dies.
And Whatsapp sometimes get's messed up when the screen rotates.
meerameer said:
May I suggest beanstalk. Good battery, lots of optional features like halo etc (only thing that doesnt work is the screen recorder). If there was a lollipop version, then I would run it in heartbeat :good:
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I have heard many good things about beanstalk but never had the chance to experience that as most of the links in the post are dead.... Is there anywhere that we can find to try out that rom?
I am currently using ICS Stock 4.0.3
Also tried custom roms like Cm11 and Cm12.1
For me Stock (ICS) is good as it provide me best battery life for charging,usage,camera,wifi etc
Just waiting for Cm13
b886b said:
I have heard many good things about beanstalk but never had the chance to experience that as most of the links in the post are dead.... Is there anywhere that we can find to try out that rom?
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Unfortuantly that is the only source i know of for beanstalk.
the 26/12/2013 link works, and most of the ones at the bottom too (remember though to right click on the big blue "download now" and choose "open link in new tab" to start the download on Dev-Host
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I am running Mahdi at the moment.
Works, responsiveness is fine. But sometimes PlayServices go bezerk and cause wakelocks, until the battery dies.
And Whatsapp sometimes get's messed up when the screen rotates.
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Try to use privacy guard to block the wake-up and keep awake of the google play service, then the drain should be gone.
So I have a Nexus 5 that's screen is dying for the second time and I'm considering my options including a replacement phone. The Z3c is obviously a great spec phone and nicely built... I'm attracted to it by it sensible size also. The Nexus 5 I'm coming from is about the limit of size I'm willing to go. However I'm afraid of moving from the open world of easily being able to install custom ROM's and do whatever I like to the phone. I've read up on what's involved in doing this on the Z3c but I still have some reservations:
How stable are the ROM's available for the Z3c, I'm really just interested in a close to stock ROM with bloatware removed, I'n not looking for experimental features/customisations. I've used Cyanogenmod before on another device, and other ROMs and there always seemed to be something that never worked quite as well as the stock ROM. (CM had bluetooth problems for me)
If you go the route of unlocking the bootloader, are the DRM protected features that are lost deal-breaking? Is it possible to achieve what I want (clean ROM, root) without unlocking the bootloader?
Thanks for your help in advance!
I am facing prettu much the same problem...
But i am moving away from a lg g2. ( it does not have the best custom rom support, but it works)
Anyway, i am willing to give a shot to the stock sony android... because of the DRM keys..
Well.. lets see what the people have to say!
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How stable are the ROM's available for the Z3c, I'm really just interested in a close to stock ROM with bloatware removed, I'n not looking for experimental features/customisations. I've used Cyanogenmod before on another device, and other ROMs and there always seemed to be something that never worked quite as well as the stock ROM. (CM had bluetooth problems for me)
If you go the route of unlocking the bootloader, are the DRM protected features that are lost deal-breaking? Is it possible to achieve what I want (clean ROM, root) without unlocking the bootloader?
Thanks for your help in advance!
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1: The Roms here are really stable and most of them are close to stock Roms so you won't have to worry about that, since most of them are near stock Roms you won't have to worry about the stability either.
2: Only you can judge if you're going to miss the DRM features, I didn't and still don't I couldn't wait for root, so I unlocked my BL and I never regretted my choice.
The only downside to this phone is the camera in my opinion, so gather some info about the camera first.
When unlocking the BL you also lose some camera quality (only really noticeable in low light conditions tho).
See my topic (in sig) for pictures).
And you don't have to unlock your BL at all if you don't want to, only if you want to use another Kernel.
Thanks for the info
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The only downside to this phone is the camera in my opinion, so gather some info about the camera first.
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I had a look at the photo there and they are not as good as I thought the camera is.. still they are not bad. The Nexus 5 I currently have is not amazing either so it's not really a deal breaker for me. It seems to be the one thing all non-flagship phones compromise on is the quality of the camera.
Randomly enough I'm an Android developer that this section could make use of.
So my question is: Is the community interested in CM based ROMs? (due to the fact that we lose DRM when we unlock the bootloader)
If there are indeed people who are interested. Do you have any ROMs which you wish to be ported for Z3C?
Tbh i guess the biggest issue is that people think that unlocking the bootloader turns the camera into to a old toaster. Atleast that is what my fear was before unlocking. After unlock i can barely make out a difference. Not to mention DRM fixes exists.
What really bothers me however is the lack of kernels for 6.0 and stock roms. Myself5 and Someone777 got custom kernels covered for 5.1 but nothing really exists for 6.0.
I read somewere about them planning 3.10 linux kernels based on Sony AOSP. Unsure for what type of roms tho.
Myself I run two things on my phone
1. Stock Rom + Custom Kernel.
2. Paranoid Android or CM based. PA prefered. + Custom Kernel.
This community could sure use an extra dev tho.
I'd use CM/AOSP based rom in a heartbeat had it not been for that reversed fish eye bug
However they are even now pretty stable other than that bug, I've tried couple of them, and with the removal of Z1 platform camera blobs, we might even see that being fixed. Someone reported that with latest camera blob updates, camera quality was improved though.
That aside, custom rom I have loved was SlimRom, as I have used it on my old S2, and it's still loaded on it, but that's not CM based.
I don't know, it doesn't matter much which rom, just as long as it's stable and has all basic functions working well
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Exzu said:
After unlock i can barely make out a difference. Not to mention DRM fixes exists.
I read somewere about them planning 3.10 linux kernels based on Sony AOSP. Unsure for what type of roms tho.
This community could sure use an extra dev tho.
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The difference in quality is noticeable when you run into conditions with less light (let's say when ISO goes over 400), but even that can be improved with further camera blob releases. DRM fixes do not apply to CM/AOSP because framework and noise reduction algorithms differ from stock Sony roms.
It would be very nice to have a 3.10 branch kernels
Yep, an extra dev could be really helpful, considering the lack of devs and development for this device. IMO the devs around here did quite a good job, but any extra hand is welcome.
Not really for myself. I would like the last android n preview. I prefer to have the "aosp" rom from Sony than a buggy rom, it's so much work for dev to get something stable. Than the Sony concept rom, which are working so good.
I ran RR for quite a while, and as always enjoyed running something AOSP / CM based (especially coming from Nexus). I lived with the camera being ****ty and all was fine. But as nelvinchi disappeared, I tried put SLiMM (stock based), and to be honest - I absolutely love the camera quality! I can't imagine going back to that ****ty camera.
But whatever happened to Sonys OS camera project?
Hi,
I would really love to see AICP (probably the best CM based rom at this point) for our Z3c.
I don't care much about pictures quality. Using camera only to scan documents or to take notes.
Now running Concept rom with unlocked bootloader.
Yeah sure but good luck getting a working camera ...there isn't a cm rom out there with a properly functioning camera...
The only big issue is the fish-eye bug.
No fix, no party.
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The only big issue is the fish-eye bug.
No fix, no party.
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I'd say, for my requirements, it is the only issue keeping me away from AOSP/CM. I can say that I use camera often, so I need something with decent quality (without any kind of fish-eye of course). I have used MultiROM, but it is time consuming to reboot in stock ROM to capture the moment. On top of that, new MultiROM v33x is not working, and Myself5 is nowhere to be seen so I lost hope for a fix.
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I'd say, for my requirements, it is the only issue keeping me away from AOSP/CM. I can say that I use camera often, so I need something with decent quality (without any kind of fish-eye of course). I have used MultiROM, but it is time consuming to reboot in stock ROM to capture the moment. On top of that, new MultiROM v33x is not working, and Myself5 is nowhere to be seen so I lost hope for a fix.
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NOBODY likes to have a broken camera and that's the reason why EVERYBODY keeps away from AOSP roms, like you.
Frankly I gave up on development for this phone MANY MANY months ago.
We'll never get a fix for the fisheye bug, let's face it.
istux said:
NOBODY likes to have a broken camera and that's the reason why EVERYBODY keeps away from AOSP roms, like you.
Frankly I gave up on development for this phone MANY MANY months ago.
We'll never get a fix for the fisheye bug, let's face it.
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the people over at paranoid android tried but failed miserably with their recent initial release for MM and haven't heard a peep from them since...i'm sure it will get removed from their supported devices...
I wish blisspop would be ported to the z3c.
i'm pretty sure OP would be a god in this community if they produced a working CM/AOSP rom with a fully functioning camera.
istux said:
NOBODY likes to have a broken camera and that's the reason why EVERYBODY keeps away from AOSP roms, like you.
Frankly I gave up on development for this phone MANY MANY months ago.
We'll never get a fix for the fisheye bug, let's face it.
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We won't probably, because Sony doesn't want to release proper blobs, not that they can't, they don't want to.
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the people over at paranoid android tried but failed miserably with their recent initial release for MM and haven't heard a peep from them since...i'm sure it will get removed from their supported devices...
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Yea, the PA team have realized probably what crap they have put themselves into. Let's face the simple fact, which should be pretty obvious: people from Sony just don't want to release proper blobs/drivers for Z3 series. Why? That's something we can only guess. But the fact that they have released blobs/drivers for Z1 series (which have been used on Z3 series up until let's say 2 weeks ago) and have now added X camera blobs is something beyond logic. Why did they leave out Z3 series (which has different camera lens compared to Z1, but used Z1 blobs anyway)? It's not like Qualcomm forbid them to for Z3 series specifically, since Z1 has also proprietary DRM functions, yet it has working AOSP/CM with proper drivers released.
Not that I know anything about android drivers/blobs, coding and building, but this is what devs here were discussing, and I would trust them more than Sony officials.