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Negatives on Nexus 4

Seems like every time a new nexus seems like in the first three months you can't say anything negative about the phone. It must be better than everything else or bust. Its like the phone you own defines you as a person. Seems like if you think something is bad about a nexus something is wrong with you and a lot you guys attack people who are actually in touch with reality.
Apple does not give a hot damn about a nexus and it laughable to think the number 1 phone maker on the planet is worried about us. The fact that some think they have a hidden smear campaign is just nuts.
The nexus 4 is an awesome phone but it has some flaws like everything else. You can lie to yourself to make your purchase feel better but facts are facts. Here are some of the negatives so people thinking of buying this phone can now what is true and to expect.
1. This phone is very fragile ( more than any other phone I owned ). Its glass front and back so expect to own a case and screen protectors. If this phone is gorilla glass its the crappiest I have ever seen or the weakest. All these guys saying they drop there phones and not even a mark, come on. Common sense you can look at this phone and tell any hard floor and a drop over 1 foot something is getting marked or cracked.
2. After you crack the front the screen stops working and the phone is pretty much junk might as well buy a new one. This is not an iPhone so replacement parts will be hard to find and cost will be high. I can crack an iPhone and for 30-40 bucks fix it myself. Good luck on this its the same as the nexus 7. Once cracked it is pretty much worthless.
3. Phone does get pretty warm if the screen is on for about 20 min even on auto brightness. I know its a thin phone but even with a case its hot in the back.
4. Screen colors are washed and LCD is not great. Not saying its bad but its not winning any awards. Put this next almost any other top phone and you will see why people say its washed. Yes you can adjust but you have to root and flash custom and a custom kernel for best results. Then its a little better but it will always be an LCD can't change that. Viewing angles no good and blacks are not deep blacks.
5. Battery life is just ok, some may even say bad. I am on custom ROMs so its a little better but around 4 hours on screen time on average.
There are a few other minor things but for the most part these are the flaws. I still suggest this phone because its cheap, its unlocked, super fast, stock android, and its sleek and sexy. I am not a troll spent over 2 grand ordering nexus 4's, probably donated hundreds of dollars to devs.
Post what you think the negatives are of this phone.
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Think you got most of them, though you forgot to mention the lack of usb otg. It would have been pretty useful, as it was on the Galaxy Nexus.
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Sorry I have to disagree.
I have no heating issues, the LCD is far superior than my HTC one x was, and I get consistently over 5 hours screen on time. Unbelievable if you ask me.
Yea USB otg...but I never use it so meh.
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ptesmoke said:
Sorry I have to disagree.
I have no heating issues, the LCD is far superior than my HTC one x was, and I get consistently over 5 hours screen on time. Unbelievable if you ask me.
Yea USB otg...but I never use it so meh.
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And your stock right? I mean depending what you customize you can get 5 hours but a screen shot would help of proof. And the LCD I'm not saying is bad just not amazing. Its sharp but when I look at an amoled I start missing it again.
Yeah I didn't want to name the minor stuff, lots of people don't even know what USB otg is, could said lack of storage, yellow tint, no LTE, etc.
Main flaw is the whole scratch easy and breaks easy and don't break the front glass or it stops working. Has anyone found out why the nexus 7 and 4 have this problem. I am guessing its somewhere along the line of this how they got the cost down so much. After breaking a nexus 7 on carpet I kinda want Google to make the devices better builds or release some cheap parts to fix them.
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ptesmoke said:
Sorry I have to disagree.
the LCD is far superior than my HTC one x was,
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Either you had a dud one x or a very special nexus 4.
My one x screen was waaaay better than my nexus 4.
And to the OP.
You forgot nexus 4 has a very average camera.

Troll.
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Fataldesain said:
And your stock right? I mean depending what you customize you can get 5 hours but a screen shot would help of proof. And the LCD I'm not saying is bad just not amazing. Its sharp but when I look at an amoled I start missing it again.
Yeah I didn't want to name the minor stuff, lots of people don't even know what USB otg is, could said lack of storage, yellow tint, no LTE, etc.
Main flaw is the whole scratch easy and breaks easy and don't break the front glass or it stops working. Has anyone found out why the nexus 7 and 4 have this problem. I am guessing its somewhere along the line of this how they got the cost down so much. After breaking a nexus 7 on carpet I kinda want Google to make the devices better builds or release some cheap parts to fix them.
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Not too sure about the N7, but the N4 uses zero gap technology. I don't really remember the details but it's something along the lines of removing a layer from between the screen and digitizer so they can have a screen without a bezel.
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xchasa said:
Either you had a dud one x or a very special nexus 4.
My one x screen was waaaay better than my nexus 4.
And to the OP.
You forgot nexus 4 has a very average camera.
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I shoulda said one Xl...the lte one x. the screen was good...but not as accurate as my n4. plus whatever coating lg used on the n4 glass is miles ahead of whatever the hell HTC sprayed on the x.
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Fataldesain said:
And your stock right? I mean depending what you customize you can get 5 hours but a screen shot would help of proof. And the LCD I'm not saying is bad just not amazing. Its sharp but when I look at an amoled I start missing it again.
Yeah I didn't want to name the minor stuff, lots of people don't even know what USB otg is, could said lack of storage, yellow tint, no LTE, etc.
Main flaw is the whole scratch easy and breaks easy and don't break the front glass or it stops working. Has anyone found out why the nexus 7 and 4 have this problem. I am guessing its somewhere along the line of this how they got the cost down so much. After breaking a nexus 7 on carpet I kinda want Google to make the devices better builds or release some cheap parts to fix them.
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I'm not stock now no... but when I was I still hit 5 hours screen time. custom ROM/kernel now just gets me about another 30mins on top of that.
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Then go buy an iPhone
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subxero123 said:
Then go buy an iPhone
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Yep knew this was coming, typical.
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when I got my nexus 4, I couldnt wait for it to come and try it out. i was coming from an htc one x. and no way in the world does the nexus 4 screen come close to the htc one x's. and my nexus 4 started having random shutoffs, heated up, battery was draining faster than i could charge. and the camera sucks on this phone. I got myself a note 2 its a solid device and I do miss the pure google experience, but tbh LG effed it up.

My biggest complaints:
-battery life is atrocious compared to my previous devices
-volume rocker gets hit a lot when pushing wake button one-handed
-google support, I feel like I was somewhat suckered into purchasing by having a Qi charging orb, miracast accessories, and the bumper dangled in front of me only to have them nonexistent, sold out and/or just plain silent when it comes to answers regarding future availability
-the flash on the camera needs to be toned down
-audio is pretty muffled when using speakerphone and phone is laying on it's back, thanks to speaker location
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I also have to disagree with the last three points
My phone only gets warm with intense CPU stuff (which is expected...)
I love the colors, and I can easily manipulate them to give richer, deeper colors through kernels and what not of I grow unhappy later
Battery for me is really good... 4+ screen in 18+ hours... On 3G with WiFi its 6+ in 20+
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left2swiss said:
when I got my nexus 4, I couldnt wait for it to come and try it out. i was coming from an htc one x. and no way in the world does the nexus 4 screen come close to the htc one x's. and my nexus 4 started having random shutoffs, heated up, battery was draining faster than i could charge. and the camera sucks on this phone. I got myself a note 2 its a solid device and I do miss the pure google experience, but tbh LG effed it up.
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Dont blame the phone, blame your brain
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I am not going to discuss the other points but, you are right, the phone is very fragile. Mine suffer a falling from about one meter which cracks the screen. In any case, the replacement by an official client service costs near 150€, transport included, so the complain about the components cost its not fair.
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Coming from S2 with stock rom / custom kernel
N4
NEG
- battery life is not that great during usage
- camera is not that great.. even compare to my s2 which is almost 2 years behind
- never drop it yet, but using a case so i dont think it would be that bad
- OOS !! at first i was planning to get a 8 gb.. but they only had the 16 gb instock .. total cost was $420 due to tax and shipping in Canada

@Fataldesaign what's the matter with you??
You've started at least 8 anti-nexus 4 thread in this forum, most of them which for locked. All of your thread are something negative.
I remember you ate the same guy from that thread where you started calling everyone your hater and all ... There's no need to start so many thread on the flaws of Nexus 4. One or two is OK.
Thread reported. Kindly do not make useless threads now.
I don't understand why people come in some phone's forum, and make a thread "faults of this phone". I mean, if you don't like this phone, at least don't turn those who spent money in getting the device against it? It may have its flaws, but we are OK with them. We don't need reminders about the bad things. I mean, constructive criticism is GOOD. But not pointless pointing out of flaws...
If you have complaints, kindly submit an error report to Google.
Hope you get my point.
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You guessed it, this is no different to all your other threads that have been closed. You like to complain and that's understandable but all these threads achieve is to troll and wind up other users so no real purpose to them.
Thanks again for your opinion but maybe try be more constructive with your next thread.
Thanks
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Shocked by (lack of) screen quality

I own a Galaxy S4 right now, it's the first non-Nexus I've owned and am a long standing Nexus fan (I have the 7 too) and recently picked up the Nexus 4 as a replacement phone for my wives damaged HTC One S and am really disappointed in the screen on the N4...
The screen looks completely washed out! I did some searches and found that the only way to get more vibrant colors is to root and adjust using another app which is a poor solution. Is this really the only thing that can be done?

|mpulse said:
I own a Galaxy S4 right now, it's the first non-Nexus I've owned and am a long standing Nexus fan (I have the 7 too) and recently picked up the Nexus 4 as a replacement phone for my wives damaged HTC One S and am really disappointed in the screen on the N4...
The screen looks completely washed out! I did some searches and found that the only way to get more vibrant colors is to root and adjust using another app which is a poor solution. Is this really the only thing that can be done?
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Stock 4.3 has better calibrations than 4.2. But if you wanna change LCD calibrations, you need custom kernels (yes after rooting) like faux, ak, Franco etc and then use an app like trickster mod or faux control etc.. Also s4 is amoled so it'll have more vibrant colors..but with custom kernels you can do a lot to the screen
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|mpulse said:
I own a Galaxy S4 right now, it's the first non-Nexus I've owned and am a long standing Nexus fan (I have the 7 too) and recently picked up the Nexus 4 as a replacement phone for my wives damaged HTC One S and am really disappointed in the screen on the N4...
The screen looks completely washed out! I did some searches and found that the only way to get more vibrant colors is to root and adjust using another app which is a poor solution. Is this really the only thing that can be done?
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Unfortunately yes, it's the only solution. But it is worth it when you own a Nexus 4
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not only that, but the S4 screen is a tad over saturated compared to the slightly more natural looking N4. take a look into some of the threads comparing the Super AMOLED vs IPS screens.

I don't seem to be having scree N quality issues. B ut I can only compare my n 4 to the N7 or an iPhone 4s...L
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I love N4 screen quality. To me it looks much better than the over saturated S3 and S4.

S4's screen quality is better but you cannot say N4's screen quality is so bad that u literally got shocked comparing it :/
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I Dont see what everyone is complaining about. My screen looks just as good as my sisters s3 or my friends s4. It looks way better then the sensation 4g I had. I prefer my screen over Samsung's amoled screens
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gallardo5 said:
Unfortunately yes, it's the only solution. But it is worth it when you own a Nexus 4
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Yeah, since this is for my wife I wanted to avoid rooting... I know it f's up some apps and will be tedious to deal with for updates. I just wanted something that works nice and easy for her. Oh well.
filthykid said:
S4's screen quality is better but you cannot say N4's screen quality is so bad that u literally got shocked comparing it :/
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Speaking objectively as an owner of both phones I definitely can. Same with HTC One S->Nexus 4, One S is noticeable more vibrant with darker tones and richer colors.
I guess it just is what it is for now. Thanks everyone for the quick responses!

You were shocked????
I do agree the stock n4 does not have the best color calibration. This is a programing issue and not a screen quality issue.
I'm sorry but I would choose a IPS display over a AMOLED display any day!

juliano_q said:
I love N4 screen quality. To me it looks much better than the over saturated S3 and S4.
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This! I have compared multiple exact pictures and the s3 look way over saturated.
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The screen of a s4 is everything but realistic in terms of colours.
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You can use this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136295

|mpulse said:
Yeah, since this is for my wife I wanted to avoid rooting... I know it f's up some apps and will be tedious to deal with for updates. I just wanted something that works nice and easy for her. Oh well.
Speaking objectively as an owner of both phones I definitely can. Same with HTC One S->Nexus 4, One S is noticeable more vibrant with darker tones and richer colors.
I guess it just is what it is for now. Thanks everyone for the quick responses!
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No comparison to one s, n4 wins hands down. (My wife has one as well)

|mpulse said:
Yeah, since this is for my wife I wanted to avoid rooting... I know it f's up some apps and will be tedious to deal with for updates. I just wanted something that works nice and easy for her. Oh well.
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Bull****. The only thing i can think of is Whatsapp displaying a popup before initial setup saying they don't support custom roms/root. Rooting shouldn't cause ANY problems if you just root, install Faux/Franco kernel (and their app) and apply gamma settings. If you're paranoid, i think you can set root to be denied for anything else apart from those apps you need to calibrate the gamma and stuff. Oh well.

coolnow said:
Bull****. The only thing i can think of is Whatsapp displaying a popup before initial setup saying they don't support custom roms/root. Rooting shouldn't cause ANY problems if you just root, install Faux/Franco kernel (and their app) and apply gamma settings. If you're paranoid, i think you can set root to be denied for anything else apart from those apps you need to calibrate the gamma and stuff. Oh well.
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You have no ides what your talking about. Many apps are starting to make their apps not compatible if the device is rooted. As being rooted is a security risk.
Wayne Tech Nexus

The N4 is not washed out. Its the S4 and pretty much every Samsung phone and TV ever, that is way over saturated.

zelendel said:
You have no ides what your talking about. Many apps are starting to make their apps not compatible if the device is rooted. As being rooted is a security risk.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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Not true! Rooting uses exploits a.k.a security holes in the OS and it patches it! Rooted device= safer device
N4 4.3+Franco+LTE

BigDig said:
Not true! Rooting uses exploits a.k.a security holes in the OS and it patches it! Rooted device= safer device
N4 4.3+Franco+LTE
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Oh very true. I have a set of Su binary and app that allows root to all apps without user knowledge. Sound safe to you? A rooted device does not make it safer.
Wayne Tech Nexus

Galaxies are way over saturated and way to colorful?
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Disappointment list

I got Nexus 5 today, played with it for sometime and here what I noticed I don't like about it.
I also have Galaxy S4 GE and used S3, S2 before. Never used Nexus phones before.
1. It doesn't come with headphones. oh cmon, how expensive can the cost be to not include them into a package ???
2. IPS display is a very big disappointment. The colors are washed out. Whites are too bright.
Galaxy S4 GE's display is much more better at color accuracy if I compare it to a professional IPS displays from NEC.
3. Screen size is actually smaller due to a presence of google buttons. Galaxy S4 has a bigger usefull surface, because it uses mechanical buttons.
Everything else is cool. KitKat 4.4 is awesome.

jodvova said:
I got Nexus 5 today, played with it for sometime and here what I noticed I don't like about it.
I also have Galaxy S4 GE and used S3, S2 before. Never used Nexus phones before.
1. It doesn't come with headphones. oh cmon, how expensive can the cost to not include them into a package ???
2. IPS display is a very big disappointment. The colors are washed out. Whites are too bright.
Galaxy S4 GE's display is much more better at color accuracy if I compare it to a professional IPS displays from NEC.
3. Screen size is actually smaller due to a presence of google buttons. Galaxy S4 has a bigger usefull surface, because it uses mechanical buttons.
Everything else is cool. KitKat 4.4. is awesome.
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cool story bro

Can everyone with a story stop making new threads.
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monkeypaws said:
Can everyone with a story stop making new threads.
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Sorry about that. Just thought my opinion is very important to be hidden somewhere on Nth page of existing threads.

jodvova said:
I got Nexus 5 today, played with it for sometime and here what I noticed I don't like about it.
I also have Galaxy S4 GE and used S3, S2 before. Never used Nexus phones before.
1. It doesn't come with headphones. oh cmon, how expensive can the cost be to not include them into a package ???
2. IPS display is a very big disappointment. The colors are washed out. Whites are too bright.
Galaxy S4 GE's display is much more better at color accuracy if I compare it to a professional IPS displays from NEC.
3. Screen size is actually smaller due to a presence of google buttons. Galaxy S4 has a bigger usefull surface, because it uses mechanical buttons.
Everything else is cool. KitKat 4.4 is awesome.
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1) Duh.
2) You prefer AMOLED over-saturation. I do not.
3) Duh.
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cool story bro
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My thoughts exactly.

Lol
Why do people care about the ****ty ear buds that come with these phones ?
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1) it's a $350 phone. If you want, ask google to throw one in if you pay $650.
2) that's how a phone screen is supposed to lppl. You're used to the constant doctoring and over saturation. Which isn't a good representation of what it really is.
3) those mechanical buttons still take up space? It's not that hard to enter full screen mode and they're gone. not to mention you're in the development community where you can easily remove the nav bar completely.

#1stworldproblems
I mean really, if that's the only thing to complain about, you gotta damn good device imo
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Paddington said:
2) You prefer AMOLED over-saturation. I do not.
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Well, they do match what I see on IPS monitor.
Nexus 5's colors are just too white.

twoeleven99 said:
Lol
Why do people care about the ****ty ear buds that come with these phones ?
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I used them a lot to have a phone conversation.
As for music, I don't really listen it on a mobile device since the quality of its DAC is extremely inferior to studio devices.

thfreedumb said:
1) it's a $350 phone. If you want, ask google to throw one in if you pay $650.
2) that's how a phone screen is supposed to lppl. You're used to the constant doctoring and over saturation. Which isn't a good representation of what it really is.
3) those mechanical buttons still take up space? It's not that hard to enter full screen mode and they're gone. not to mention you're in the development community where you can easily remove the nav bar completely.
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1. Seriously, they cost like $10 on amazon. And it's soo much hassle to order them separately.
2. Just get a professional IPS monitor and compare colors of Galaxy S4 and Nexus 5 screens. You will see that Nexus 5 is off by a lot.
3. The height of Galaxy S4 and Nexus 5 is the same. Not all applications support a full screen mode yet, for example whatsapp or gallery.

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I'd prefer if it was hidden inside the galaxy 4 forums so I'd never have to see it. Thanks for wasting 4 seconds of my day.

If the screen is truly washed out, you'll be able to tell by looking at this website:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/white.php
I use this test in particular, and that website in general to test all of my displays.
Black level is here:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php

I hate the GS4 fake over the top colors.
For the record I've owned the HTC ONE, GS4, and Iphone 5. The nexus screen is up there with iphone 5 and Htc one.
I still feel like i wasted money on gs4. Only great thing was the camera.

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You thought wrong
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My Nexus 5 Review

Here are my thoughts on the Nexus 5:
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2014/01/review-nexus-5-hardware-impressions/
Overall a great Device but I can't help feeling that the Nexus 4 was higher quality when it was released. Even without LTE, but at least the buttons weren't wobbly and the curved display was perfect...

no loose buttons here on my nexus 5, nor on my nexus 4. and the display on the n5 is better than the n4, much. build quality wise, n5 is better than the n4. and your link isnt good(even though, maybe a little late out of the gate for a nexus 5 review?).

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
Here are my thoughts on the Nexus 5: http://smartphoneblogging.com/2014/01/review-nexus-5-hardware-impressions/
Overall a great Device but I can't help feeling that the Nexus 4 was higher quality when it was released. Even without LTE, but at least the buttons weren't wobbly and the curved display was perfect...
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I agree with the tapered/"curved display". I loved how the screen felt on the N4. It was reminiscent of my G2x back in the day. Although the N4 is a little more visually appealing, I wouldn't say the design quality was better.
I absolutely hated the "chrome" imitation bezel that would scratch/fade after a while. I loved the glass back but hated it because it always had me on edge whenever I'd put my phone down not knowing if it would crack or scratch.
I read in your blog that you said the N4 feels easier to hold than the N5. I beg to differ. The N4 had a flat back and flat sides (with the exception of the screen being tapered) which made it annoying to hold after long periods of time. The N5 back is slightly curved and its lighter so it feels so good in the hand compared to my N4.
I do admit once again that the N4 has a beautiful design minus the imitation chrome. Whenever I would whip my phone out in public people would always ask what it was because of the glass back but I'm glad LG/Google got rid of the design because now I'm not scared at all to put my phone on a table or scared that it would slide off my lap.
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simms22 said:
no loose buttons here on my nexus 5, nor on my nexus 4. and the display on the n5 is better than the n4, much. build quality wise, n5 is better than the n4. and your link isnt good(even though, maybe a little late out of the gate for a nexus 5 review?).
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My Nexus 4 doesn't have any issues with the buttons but the first batch of nexus 5 devices had wobbly buttons. And when you shake the phone you can even hear the buttons.
To me the Nexus 4 build just feels better. I'm not a fan of the hard edges of the Nexus 5.
And yes I'm pretty late with this review because I'm writing on my spare time which isn't that much because of work and family.
The good thing is that I have used the Nexus 5 for months now and this helps finding weaknesses you wouldn't see in a few days.
BTW: the link works for me, do you get an URL error?

OuncE718 said:
I agree with the tapered/"curved display". I loved how the screen felt on the N4. It was reminiscent of my G2x back in the day. Although the N4 is a little more visually appealing, I wouldn't say the design quality was better.
I absolutely hated the "chrome" imitation bezel that would scratch/fade after a while. I loved the glass back but hated it because it always had me on edge whenever I'd put my phone down not knowing if it would crack or scratch.
I read in your blog that you said the N4 feels easier to hold than the N5. I beg to differ. The N4 had a flat back and flat sides (with the exception of the screen being tapered) which made it annoying to hold after long periods of time. The N5 back is slightly curved and its lighter so it feels so good in the hand compared to my N4.
I do admit once again that the N4 has a beautiful design minus the imitation chrome. Whenever I would whip my phone out in public people would always ask what it was because of the glass back but I'm glad LG/Google got rid of the design because now I'm not scared at all to put my phone on a table or scared that it would slide off my lap.
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Of course a lot of this is a matter of taste, but the sides of the Nexus 4 are not flat, they are angled. And it's a rubber like material. I agree about the chrome imitation, the nexus 4 would have looked much cooler without it.
I'm pretty happy with the Nexus 5, but I would love to see the tapered screen again with a soft rubber back like the Nexus 5.

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the first batch of nexus 5 devices had wobbly buttons
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The nexus 5 isn't being built in batches. They're built 24/7 continuously and there have been no hardware revisions yet.
My Nexus 5 was one of the first to roll off the production line and does not have wobbly buttons. Some have, some haven't. Its as simple as that
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rootSU said:
The nexus 5 isn't being built in batches. They're built 24/7 continuously and there have been no hardware revisions yet.
My Nexus 5 was one of the first to roll off the production line and does not have wobbly buttons. Some have, some haven't. Its as simple as that
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Nearly every tech blog wrote about the revision.
Here is one example:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/...th-larger-speaker-holes-and-improved-buttons/
Google 'Nexus 5 revision' and you will get a lot of results...but of course this doesn't mean that all previous ones where faulty. It's just that my Nexus 5 buttons and the ones of three of my colleagues have this issue so I think it should be mentioned in a review.

Having had both phones I think it's probably fair to say the nexus 4 felt of a higher quality. I remember when I first had it, it screamed really high quality, glass back and everything, something to rival the iphone and HTC one. The nexus 5 doesn't scream quality but nor does it scream cheap, it's certainly above average but not in the league with the phones I mentioned before. The quality is is similar to that of the HTC one X, which is still high quality design in my books.
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Shahpur.Azizpour said:
BTW: the link works for me, do you get an URL error?
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no, it still doesnt work, unless.. i get a 404, until i remove the <br%20/> from the end of the link, then it works.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
Of course a lot of this is a matter of taste, but the sides of the Nexus 4 are not flat, they are angled. And it's a rubber like material. I agree about the chrome imitation, the nexus 4 would have looked much cooler without it.
I'm pretty happy with the Nexus 5, but I would love to see the tapered screen again with a soft rubber back like the Nexus 5.
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I know exactly what N4 looks like since I had 2 of them. But I meant the sides weren't exactly squared but for some reason it felt like I was holding a rectangle. Maybe its because the back of it was flat instead of rounded on my N5.
Either way it still is both a good looking and a fast device. My main gripe with it was the speaker. It was so damn quiet! I hated it!
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simms22 said:
no, it still doesnt work, unless.. i get a 404, until i remove the <br%20/> from the end of the link, then it works.
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The link works for me. BTW I swear I've seen you in a bunch of different forums on XDA.
I've owned the Nexus 4, Note 3, Note 2, Galaxy Nexus, myTouch 4g, myTouch Slide 4g, HD7, HD2 etc and I swear I've seen your name in at least half of those forums.
My screen name look familiar?
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rootSU said:
The nexus 5 isn't being built in batches. They're built 24/7 continuously and there have been no hardware revisions yet.
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They seem to be treating monthly productions as batches. No hw12 yet though.

OuncE718 said:
BTW I swear I've seen you in a bunch of different forums on XDA.
I've owned the Nexus 4, Note 3, Note 2, Galaxy Nexus, myTouch 4g, myTouch Slide 4g, HD7, HD2 etc and I swear I've seen your name in at least half of those forums.
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i can testify that simms was seen in the galaxy nexus and nexus 4 forums

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
Nearly every tech blog wrote about the revision.
Here is one example:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/...th-larger-speaker-holes-and-improved-buttons/
Google 'Nexus 5 revision' and you will get a lot of results...but of course this doesn't mean that all previous ones where faulty. It's just that my Nexus 5 buttons and the ones of three of my colleagues have this issue so I think it should be mentioned in a review.
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This it a perfect example of a viral rumor. Here's a (sole) XDA member posting a forum entry about his particular observation -- in itself that is quite fine. But the entry draws out rather unlikely conclusions which were then run unchecked on click-hungry blog after blog and site after site, all the while gaining a sheen of unearned credibility. This story has been pretty well debunked (rootSU has done yeoman's work here!) yet it continues to trundle on. All we actually know at this point is that there are some very minor, insignificant variations that are probably due to which particular assembly line a piece came through. Nothing indicates that there was a specific manufacturing change - in fact the opposite is supported as we have reports of speaker hole size variations and rattling/non-rattling buttons from devices manufactured at any point in the so-far ~2-month life of this phone.
If anyone really wants to put stock in this story of hardware revisions please do some research and find a credible source to corroborate. But, make sure that this corroborative source is not itself rooted in the very same XDA forum post.
For whatever it's worth - and it shouldn't be worth much, my first-gen N5 arrived with rock-solid, absolutely unrattling buttons.

OuncE718 said:
The link works for me. BTW I swear I've seen you in a bunch of different forums on XDA.
I've owned the Nexus 4, Note 3, Note 2, Galaxy Nexus, myTouch 4g, myTouch Slide 4g, HD7, HD2 etc and I swear I've seen your name in at least half of those forums.
My screen name look familiar?
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oh, you have seen me around the forums(g1, mytouch, old school droid, nexus one, nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 4, nexus 7, and here. plus ill hang out in other phones threads too). and yea, ive seen you before as well

simms22 said:
oh, you have seen me around the forums(g1, mytouch, old school droid, nexus one, nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 4, nexus 7, and here. plus ill hang out in other phones threads too). and yea, ive seen you before as well
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I've also owned the G1, Nexus One, and Nexus S. Glad to see a familiar face (screen name).
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NotFromMountainView said:
This it a perfect example of a viral rumor. Here's a (sole) XDA member posting a forum entry about his particular observation -- in itself that is quite fine. But the entry draws out rather unlikely conclusions which were then run unchecked on click-hungry blog after blog and site after site, all the while gaining a sheen of unearned credibility. This story has been pretty well debunked (rootSU has done yeoman's work here!) yet it continues to trundle on. All we actually know at this point is that there are some very minor, insignificant variations that are probably due to which particular assembly line a piece came through. Nothing indicates that there was a specific manufacturing change - in fact the opposite is supported as we have reports of speaker hole size variations and rattling/non-rattling buttons from devices manufactured at any point in the so-far ~2-month life of this phone.
If anyone really wants to put stock in this story of hardware revisions please do some research and find a credible source to corroborate. But, make sure that this corroborative source is not itself rooted in the very same XDA forum post.
For whatever it's worth - and it shouldn't be worth much, my first-gen N5 arrived with rock-solid, absolutely unrattling buttons.
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I think in the end of the day it doesn't really matter if there was a revision or not. For the customer it's important to know that there might be problems with the buttons when getting a Nexus 5.

rootSU said:
The nexus 5 isn't being built in batches. They're built 24/7 continuously and there have been no hardware revisions yet.
My Nexus 5 was one of the first to roll off the production line and does not have wobbly buttons. Some have, some haven't. Its as simple as that
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Same here. Mine was ordered on launch day, and while the buttons are slightly loose, it doesn't have any of the other build issues people have complained about. Obviously not all of them are faulty, just some of them, and if you read the RMA thread, you'll see that people are even receiving units with later build dates that are still faulty. There have been no hardware revisions, only differences between assembly which I guess are permissible by LG's quality control.

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I think in the end of the day it doesn't really matter if there was a revision or not. For the customer it's important to know that there might be problems with the buttons when getting a Nexus 5.
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It's fair enough to discuss some number of people complaining of rattling buttons, but it's distracting to assign the issue to a particular build. This incorrectly orients people to aim for certain serial numbers (incorrectly identified as hardware revision numbers) and starts a wave of uncalled for RMAs. A significant problem that impacts the use & enjoyment of the device is reason to request an RMA, but the viral ghost of some unsubstantiated hardware revision is not. The hardware revision story is a distraction that clouds our ability to accurately judge the status of the hardware we do have. Like all tales that rise from the bowels of the Internet it should not be granted credence without doing some due diligence. If there is any point to discussing details about the device then we should be focusing on facts & fixes, rather than letting the attention drift to various fantasias out there.

BirchBarlow said:
Same here. Mine was ordered on launch day, and while the buttons are slightly loose, it doesn't have any of the other build issues people have complained about. Obviously not all of them are faulty, just some of them, and if you read the RMA thread, you'll see that people are even receiving units with later build dates that are still faulty. There have been no hardware revisions, only differences between assembly which I guess are permissible by LG's quality control.
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I'm literally new to the N5 (just received mine Friday) so please excuse my ignorance, but I thought they did a speaker and mic revision (made the holes bigger).
Either way the buttons are slightly wobbly but not enough for me to go through RMA. I think most people are just nitpicking. I see it every time in every forum I've been in. There's always a group that seems to not be happy.
If they want perfection then they should get a flip phone. With its limited features there shouldn't be much to complain about right?
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OuncE718 said:
I'm literally new to the N5 (just received mine Friday) so please excuse my ignorance, but I thought they did a speaker and mic revision (made the holes bigger).
Either way the buttons are slightly wobbly but not enough for me to go through RMA. I think most people are just nitpicking. I see it every time in every forum I've been in. There's always a group that seems to not be happy.
If they want perfection then they should get a flip phone. With its limited features there shouldn't be much to complain about right?
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That was a rumor that spread around here like wildfire, but as it turns out, these are just tolerable variances between different assembly lines, nothing more. There is only one official revision, revision 11.

New nexus 6

Ok I am about to get a new phone here next week. I want the nexus 6 or note 4. I come to yall to ask for some input since yall the nexus 6 already. How has yalls experience been with nexus 6? Thank you in advance

Considering you're on the Nexus 6 forum, most will probably recommend Nexus 6. It really depends on what's most important to you. The Note 4 has better battery life,easier one hand operation, a nifty stylus and it takes better pictures. The Nexus 6 has a better UI, better build quality, the quickest Android updates and a more rabid developer fanbase if you're into that sort of thing. The only downside to N6 ownership so far is actually ordering and receiving the device. I really only have positive things to say about the phone itself, its fast, lasts all day and feels great in hand.

You could always spend some time and read the 277 page thread debating the Note 4 vs Nexus 6. Lol

KB112 said:
You could always spend some time and read the 277 page thread debating the Note 4 vs Nexus 6. Lol
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I would rather ask owners of the phone themselves. I know all the specs and features of both phones. I am a flash-aholic so I am leaning towards the nexus 6 because it has a ton of development over the note 4. The S pen and stuff Is cool. But will I every really use it. Thanks for your input.

Man its a lot to read on on this topic and a lot posted best advice I would say is search the forum to the top items need on your phone...
Great phone but if on Verizon you cannot talk and data so long call surfing web, FB, etc out...until Advance Call 1.0 (read on it)
If Veriozn not all can get LTE
Xposed - Love it for the hacks and Panda hacks but can't use it
Issues with sound for some speaker pop but can be other dev not modified for N6 yet but Google Music does work OK
Those are for me none may fit you but you need look at what you use most in a phone and search that to see N6 will work for you or go with Note 4...as business man I need voice/data together but a Verizon issue...read on it.

parcou said:
Man its a lot to read on on this topic and a lot posted best advice I would say is search the forum to the top items need on your phone...
Great phone but if on Verizon you cannot talk and data so long call surfing web, FB, etc out...until Advance Call 1.0 (read on it)
If Veriozn not all can get LTE
Xposed - Love it for the hacks and Panda hacks but can't use it
Issues with sound for some speaker pop but can be other dev not modified for N6 yet but Google Music does work OK
Those are for me none may fit you but you need look at what you use most in a phone and search that to see N6 will work for you or go with Note 4...as business man I need voice/data together but a Verizon issue...read on it.
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I am on att but like I said development is a biggie for me. I was just wondering about problems with nexus 6. I have looked at the nexus forums and saw some stuff that bothered me. But it seems like it is mostly with Verizon. I think nexus it is for me.

Here you go.

Nexus 6 ordered and on the way. Yes

jason504 said:
Nexus 6 ordered and on the way. Yes
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You did good. I am on ATT and have had no problems with custom Roms! You will be astonished at the lack of att boost on this phone!!!!
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I'd stick with the Nexus 5 for a stock phone and the Note 4 if you want a big phone. I think there are performance issues with the Nexus 6. Whether or not it is because of Lollipop I don't know. I just know my Nexus 5 felt faster.

Evo_Shift said:
I'd stick with the Nexus 5 for a stock phone and the Note 4 if you want a big phone. I think there are performance issues with the Nexus 6. Whether or not it is because of Lollipop I don't know. I just know my Nexus 5 felt faster.
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Pretty sure software updates will fix all the problems with the nexus 6. Note 4 development Sucks they have like 6 roms.

jason504 said:
Pretty sure software updates will fix all the problems with the nexus 6. Note 4 development Sucks they have like 6 roms.
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I thought that way with Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. IMO, from my past experiences; you will see some improvements with new updates but nothing major. I prefer note 4 because it has less issue comparing to Nexus 6. I had no choice but to return it. Again IMO, don't crucify me.
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badboy47 said:
I thought that way with Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. IMO, from my past experiences; you will see some improvements with new updates but nothing major. I prefer note 4 because it has less issue comparing to Nexus 6. I had no choice but to return it. Again IMO, don't crucify me.
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Not at all everyone has their own preferences. I was on the fence but I am a flash-aholic so the nexus development sold me. Plus I really liked the build quality of the nexus 6. It feels real solid. The note 4 looks great to but it feels like it a delicate flower. S pen I would probably never use. Camera I hardly ever use. The one thing that I will miss is multi tasking. But I will get over it. Thanks for your input.